• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:32
CEST 04:32
KST 11:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE7Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b5IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"7ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!41
StarCraft 2
General
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b Terran or Protoss 3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL22 General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4539 users

[Manga] Bleach - Page 392

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 390 391 392 393 394 599 Next
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 18:48:24
October 17 2013 18:47 GMT
#7821
On October 18 2013 03:17 sumsaR wrote:


It's basically a slow moving but high-damage RPG that has stabilizer fins and needs to be aimed at its target. Just look how slowly it moves. How can anyone with a basic understanding of shunpo or similar skills EVER be hit by that (unless they just didn't bother or were unable to dodge)? That has been my point all along. How can you refute such blatant evidence Forik? People get hit by that thing because Kubo sucks.


If we are using the anime as proof, then this shows it has homing [image loading]
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101207084520/bleach/en/images/e/e7/Soifon_Bankai.gif
But as a general rule, I tend to be skeptical of anything that's shown in Anime only. Also, in this past chapter it shows the bankai missile with a cone similar to the one that appears when the sound barrier is broken.

[image loading]
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 19:18:36
October 17 2013 19:18 GMT
#7822
Oh how I hate this Bankai. It's the worst ever shown in the manga.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 19:29:09
October 17 2013 19:28 GMT
#7823
On October 18 2013 03:47 FezTheCaliph wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2013 03:17 sumsaR wrote:
http://youtu.be/4WX8J3uAk-8

It's basically a slow moving but high-damage RPG that has stabilizer fins and needs to be aimed at its target. Just look how slowly it moves. How can anyone with a basic understanding of shunpo or similar skills EVER be hit by that (unless they just didn't bother or were unable to dodge)? That has been my point all along. How can you refute such blatant evidence Forik? People get hit by that thing because Kubo sucks.


If we are using the anime as proof, then this shows it has homing [image loading]
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101207084520/bleach/en/images/e/e7/Soifon_Bankai.gif
But as a general rule, I tend to be skeptical of anything that's shown in Anime only. Also, in this past chapter it shows the bankai missile with a cone similar to the one that appears when the sound barrier is broken.

[image loading]

Resorting to what should be scientifically accurate isn't the best idea at this point, given the whole vacuum/ice thing that happened like 4 chapters ago.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
October 17 2013 20:02 GMT
#7824
Even if it is homing it would be a piece of cake to outrun it or get something between yourself and the missile for the average current bad guy.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 18 2013 03:00 GMT
#7825
On October 18 2013 03:17 sumsaR wrote:
http://youtu.be/4WX8J3uAk-8

It's basically a slow moving but high-damage RPG that has stabilizer fins and needs to be aimed at its target. Just look how slowly it moves. How can anyone with a basic understanding of shunpo or similar skills EVER be hit by that (unless they just didn't bother or were unable to dodge)? That has been my point all along. How can you refute such blatant evidence Forik? People get hit by that thing because Kubo sucks.


lets see there are 2 possible explanations

1) Kubo is wrong

2) the people who made the anime (who are not Kubo) did not animate the missile as it properly should

so either you think the AUTHOR of the manga is wrong or you think the creaters of the anime (which is a glorified fanfic) is wrong

personally im going to assume that Kubo is correct
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 03:52:46
October 18 2013 03:51 GMT
#7826
Alright, let's go with the manga then.

Check chapters 360-361. That's when she first shoots it at the entrophy guy. There's like 10 or so panels of the missile moving to its target. It's totally fast enough to not be avoided by a basic understanding of shunpo, right?

And I don't know why you're talking about Kubo being wrong or correct. I said he sucks (i.e. his writing is so bad his characters can't avoid slow-moving threats to themselves).

In either case, I'm fairly certain the makers of the anime actually asked Kubo about the workings and details of something as important as a captain's bankai and didn't just pull something out of their asses.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 18 2013 04:56 GMT
#7827
On October 18 2013 12:51 sumsaR wrote:
Alright, let's go with the manga then.

Check chapters 360-361. That's when she first shoots it at the entrophy guy. There's like 10 or so panels of the missile moving to its target. It's totally fast enough to not be avoided by a basic understanding of shunpo, right?

And I don't know why you're talking about Kubo being wrong or correct. I said he sucks (i.e. his writing is so bad his characters can't avoid slow-moving threats to themselves).

In either case, I'm fairly certain the makers of the anime actually asked Kubo about the workings and details of something as important as a captain's bankai and didn't just pull something out of their asses.

panels are not a measurement of time...

look Quincies have a high speed move just like everyone else and since Soi Fon got taken down robot guy must be able to move at least as fast as her

erego if he does get hit then unless other in manga evidence proves otherwise the missile must not be slow and the anime dudes did pull it out of there ass
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
October 18 2013 05:05 GMT
#7828
The only reason the missile hits people is because they don't actually attempt to dodge. No one in Bleach ever attempts to dodge stuff. It's slow and Kubo is a bad writer. I rest my case.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
October 18 2013 05:52 GMT
#7829
On October 18 2013 14:05 sumsaR wrote:
The only reason the missile hits people is because they don't actually attempt to dodge. No one in Bleach ever attempts to dodge stuff. It's slow and Kubo is a bad writer. I rest my case.

Seriously, I thought I demonstrated this with my logical process of elimination concerning the whole Barragan thing. Bad writing is the reason this inconsistency is here in the first place, so bad writing is probably why what happened in this chapter happened the way it did. It also conveniently lets Kubo expedite things a bit with his final arc, which might not be a bad thing. If this arc ended up being top-heavy with Ichigo-related badassness, it might just end on a high note, I would think.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 18 2013 06:09 GMT
#7830
The perfect thing to read in the morning.
A discussion about rocket propelled grenades used in a manga mostly about people who use swords.

I can't even remember ever knowing that Soifon's bankai was a rocket launcher.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
October 18 2013 10:03 GMT
#7831
On October 18 2013 14:05 sumsaR wrote:
The only reason the missile hits people is because they don't actually attempt to dodge. No one in Bleach ever attempts to dodge stuff. It's slow and Kubo is a bad writer. I rest my case.


This is the one and only reason approved by Kubo's logic.
You don't need to be strong in the Bleach universe, you just need to be able to withstand every attacks while not moving at all just to show how badass you are. If you can do it, the enemy will have the moral necessity of doing the exact same thing when it will be your turn to attack.

Bleach is turned based.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
October 18 2013 10:59 GMT
#7832
On October 18 2013 15:09 Mataza wrote:
The perfect thing to read in the morning.
A discussion about rocket propelled grenades used in a manga mostly about people who use swords.

I can't even remember ever knowing that Soifon's bankai was a rocket launcher.


You are clearly not a real fan then!!!!1
And all is illuminated.
Thenerf
Profile Joined April 2011
United States258 Posts
October 18 2013 11:55 GMT
#7833
It would be max effect against a large, slow moving target. The trick of the bankai is to hide its attack!
Every atom in your body was forged in a star. Quit being a pussy.
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
October 18 2013 14:27 GMT
#7834
They don't dodge long range attacks because it's an excuse for them to finally use their ultimate techniques
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
October 19 2013 00:15 GMT
#7835
Guys, you're all forgetting that the number one rule of Bleach combat is don't dodge.
I need a new quote...
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 07:09:21
October 23 2013 07:08 GMT
#7836
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/554

+ Show Spoiler +
Completely fucking skipped over his fight in the cave against his elder...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 23 2013 07:33 GMT
#7837
On October 23 2013 16:08 Zooper31 wrote:
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/554

+ Show Spoiler +
Completely fucking skipped over his fight in the cave against his elder...

Lol of course not...
+ Show Spoiler +
Wait for the flashback, dude, be patient.
publicenemies
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
458 Posts
October 23 2013 07:43 GMT
#7838
I'm just waiting for Ichigo to show up and end this mess; and no, I'm not talking about the quincy.
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
October 23 2013 07:45 GMT
#7839
On October 19 2013 09:15 SupaChicken wrote:
Guys, you're all forgetting that the number one rule of Bleach combat is don't dodge.

I thought the number one rule was "Behind you!"
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
October 23 2013 07:46 GMT
#7840
On October 23 2013 16:08 Zooper31 wrote:
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/554

+ Show Spoiler +
Completely fucking skipped over his fight in the cave against his elder...


It'll be in a flashback when he's losing. Then he'll use some skill he learned with the big dog and win.
I need a new quote...
Prev 1 390 391 392 393 394 599 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#92
PiGStarcraft630
CranKy Ducklings96
EnkiAlexander 72
davetesta21
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft630
RuFF_SC2 162
ProTech76
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6883
Artosis 663
Larva 357
Bale 339
NaDa 112
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 930
Counter-Strike
summit1g14653
taco 645
minikerr280
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1327
C9.Mang0416
Other Games
Day[9].tv1593
ViBE172
Maynarde116
Livibee105
Mew2King46
CosmosSc2 20
Temp013
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1448
BasetradeTV190
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP16
• OhrlRock 2
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt261
Other Games
• Scarra1771
• Day9tv1593
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
7h 28m
Kung Fu Cup
8h 28m
Patches Events
13h 28m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
CrankTV Team League
1d 8h
OSC
1d 10h
OSC
1d 14h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Escore
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-28
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.