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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 17:59:30
October 16 2013 17:58 GMT
#7801
On October 17 2013 02:38 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 02:06 Forikorder wrote:
why is it so impossible it just moves fast?

Because it was used in the anime against Barragan, and it was slow there too. The reason that one hit was because Barragan was literally fucking trapped to where he couldn't dodge it. It would be a bit of a retcon at this point to say 'well, it was really really fast this whole time'. It's about as dumb as what he did, which was plot their way into getting hit by a blimp, basically.

Barragan never dodged it he just managed to "block" it

Wouldn't that literally be imba hax? It's supposed to be super super super powerful. If it's also so fast that you couldn't dodge it with their move-fast-techniques then it's basically a guaranteed kill whenever she fires it.


look at her Shikai all she needs to do is tap someone twice and they die
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 18:00:05
October 16 2013 17:59 GMT
#7802
On October 17 2013 02:38 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 02:06 Forikorder wrote:
why is it so impossible it just moves fast?

Because it was used in the anime against Barragan, and it was slow there too. The reason that one hit was because Barragan was literally fucking trapped to where he couldn't dodge it. It would be a bit of a retcon at this point to say 'well, it was really really fast this whole time'. It's about as dumb as what he did, which was plot their way into getting hit by a blimp, basically.

Was going to point out that the missile speed was shown in the anime. That's the information I based my statement on.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
October 16 2013 18:24 GMT
#7803
Great chapter. 10/10 Kubo wows me every chapter. Hollowify bankai? Genius writing,
Platinum Support GOD
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2849 Posts
October 16 2013 19:12 GMT
#7804
Well I feel like it wouldn't be so bad if the tides turning wasn't so exaggerated every time. People go from getting owned to owning and back again. Like if Hitsugaya getting his bankai back would only barely level the field, it would make the fight more interesting. I guess Bleach has been like this for quite a while, but thinking back to for instance Ichigo vs Zaraki, or Ichigo vs Byakuya, the fights felt like they were more clutch and even.
MoonPieMat
Profile Joined January 2011
United States96 Posts
October 16 2013 19:48 GMT
#7805
None of these fights have tension anymore. Especially with Urahara just reversing the only thing that could have made them more interesting.
"OBJECTION!"
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
October 16 2013 21:21 GMT
#7806
On October 17 2013 02:58 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 02:38 NewSunshine wrote:
On October 17 2013 02:06 Forikorder wrote:
why is it so impossible it just moves fast?

Because it was used in the anime against Barragan, and it was slow there too. The reason that one hit was because Barragan was literally fucking trapped to where he couldn't dodge it. It would be a bit of a retcon at this point to say 'well, it was really really fast this whole time'. It's about as dumb as what he did, which was plot their way into getting hit by a blimp, basically.

Barragan never dodged it he just managed to "block" it

You're missing the point. I'm saying he didn't dodge it because he was trapped, or otherwise he could have easily done so, given that in the anime it was shown to be rather slow, next to things like shunpo and sonido. If this wasn't the case, there would have been no point to trapping him in the first place. In either case, the writing is inconsistent, which leaves the most logical conclusion to be that bad writing is why it hits this quincy-thing as well.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 16 2013 23:09 GMT
#7807
Garbage.
The heart's eternal vow
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 17 2013 03:30 GMT
#7808
On October 17 2013 06:21 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 02:58 Forikorder wrote:
On October 17 2013 02:38 NewSunshine wrote:
On October 17 2013 02:06 Forikorder wrote:
why is it so impossible it just moves fast?

Because it was used in the anime against Barragan, and it was slow there too. The reason that one hit was because Barragan was literally fucking trapped to where he couldn't dodge it. It would be a bit of a retcon at this point to say 'well, it was really really fast this whole time'. It's about as dumb as what he did, which was plot their way into getting hit by a blimp, basically.

Barragan never dodged it he just managed to "block" it

You're missing the point. I'm saying he didn't dodge it because he was trapped, or otherwise he could have easily done so, given that in the anime it was shown to be rather slow, next to things like shunpo and sonido. If this wasn't the case, there would have been no point to trapping him in the first place. In either case, the writing is inconsistent, which leaves the most logical conclusion to be that bad writing is why it hits this quincy-thing as well.



he wasnt trapped to prevent him from moving, he was trapped so that he couldnt prevent Soi Fon from getting right to him

theres no evidence that Soi Fons missile is slow
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
October 17 2013 03:35 GMT
#7809
Maybe they don't bother dodging so they can see how strong it is.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
October 17 2013 04:04 GMT
#7810
On October 17 2013 12:35 riotjune wrote:
Maybe they don't bother dodging so they can see how strong it is.

In Bleach that's how you win. You need to be defeated first so you can make a comeback or alternatively get hit by the biggest attack and appear unscathed so you can then proceed to win.

Oh you Kubo.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
October 17 2013 05:26 GMT
#7811
On October 17 2013 12:30 Forikorder wrote:
he wasnt trapped to prevent him from moving, he was trapped so that he couldnt prevent Soi Fon from getting right to him

I don't see what the difference is; he was trapped so that he couldn't dodge the attack.
On October 17 2013 12:30 Forikorder wrote:
theres no evidence that Soi Fons missile is slow

Ignoring how there's also no evidence to the contrary, you're equating 'slow' with 'slower than sonido/shunpo', which is what we're actually talking about. Unless the attack is exceptionally fast, which would have been mentioned by now, it could be dodged just like any other attack, and seeing how it's an unusually large and flashy weapon, the enemy is almost certain to see it coming, which should by all reason make it a decidedly difficult attack to hit with.

Unless, of course, you take Plot into account, and the fact that Kubo may or may not be on a timer with his final arc. Suddenly all this has to be thrown out the window, and Kubo just has to say 'eh fuck it, just let it hit' and move on.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 17 2013 05:43 GMT
#7812
I don't see what the difference is; he was trapped so that he couldn't dodge the attack.


the difference is that hes incapable of actually dodging the attack,, hes only capable of blocking it while its fired from a long distance allowing Soi Fon to get close prevents him from blocking it

Ignoring how there's also no evidence to the contrary


well find out next chapter, if the quincy got hit then aparently the missile isnt slow
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 09:10:21
October 17 2013 09:08 GMT
#7813
those black marks on hitsugaya's dragon look like the marks on ichigo's mask when he first hollowfied... + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


considering its urahara he might have done it so the captains would get powerups and have their zanpakuto achieve hollow modes. also funny none of the vizard captains got their bankai stolen
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
October 17 2013 16:37 GMT
#7814
On October 17 2013 14:43 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't see what the difference is; he was trapped so that he couldn't dodge the attack.


the difference is that hes incapable of actually dodging the attack

I know, that's what I've been saying this whole time, I'm not about to say it again.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 17 2013 17:00 GMT
#7815
On October 18 2013 01:37 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 14:43 Forikorder wrote:
I don't see what the difference is; he was trapped so that he couldn't dodge the attack.


the difference is that hes incapable of actually dodging the attack

I know, that's what I've been saying this whole time, I'm not about to say it again.

hes incapable of dodging it wether he was trapped or not
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
October 17 2013 17:26 GMT
#7816
Ok guys.... lets all read what her ability does.
Oh look.
Her Bankai has homing.
Once targeted, small fins extend from numerous points along the missile, before it is fired. It then tracks its target for a precision strike


source
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 17 2013 17:31 GMT
#7817
On October 18 2013 02:26 FezTheCaliph wrote:
Ok guys.... lets all read what her ability does.
Oh look.
Her Bankai has homing.
Show nested quote +
Once targeted, small fins extend from numerous points along the missile, before it is fired. It then tracks its target for a precision strike


source

thats a fan made wiki
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
October 17 2013 17:40 GMT
#7818
On October 18 2013 02:31 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:26 FezTheCaliph wrote:
Ok guys.... lets all read what her ability does.
Oh look.
Her Bankai has homing.
Once targeted, small fins extend from numerous points along the missile, before it is fired. It then tracks its target for a precision strike


source

thats a fan made wiki


Fair enough. The line is sourced though. Chapter 361 pages 1-2. I'd copy it but I'm at work =(
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
October 17 2013 17:57 GMT
#7819
On October 18 2013 02:40 FezTheCaliph wrote:
Fair enough. The line is sourced though. Chapter 361 pages 1-2. I'd copy it but I'm at work =(


I just took a look at those pages, her bankai is going straight into a standing target, at best it has a speed boost.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 18:18:49
October 17 2013 18:17 GMT
#7820


It's basically a slow moving but high-damage RPG that has stabilizer fins and needs to be aimed at its target. Just look how slowly it moves. How can anyone with a basic understanding of shunpo or similar skills EVER be hit by that (unless they just didn't bother or were unable to dodge)? That has been my point all along. How can you refute such blatant evidence Forik? People get hit by that thing because Kubo sucks.
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