EPTOn September 11 2013 06:59 Greggle wrote:
Hitsugaya is the captain they use to show how powerful enemies are. Expect him to get rolled.
Hitsugaya is the captain they use to show how powerful enemies are. Expect him to get rolled.
Called it.
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
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flamewheel
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On September 27 2013 04:22 Salteador Neo wrote: I loled at this too :D Bleach is bad but this thread makes reading it worthy. Bleach isn't bad at all. I just re-read the chapter. Soi Fong's back, OMG. Bleach is great | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On September 26 2013 03:03 Kyuukyuu wrote: i'm actually really surprised they haven't used fox-captain as a punching bag yet. usually him and his extraordinarily shitty shikai/bankai are just enemy fodder You have to admit, his bankai makes for the perfect punching bag. | ||
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flamewheel
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 27 2013 04:09 sumsaR wrote: Someone should teach heroes and villains in shounen mangas to go all out right away and not give enemies time to 1-up them. They'd know if they were genre savvy. if they go all out from the start then your opponent can counter and fluke a win its better to save your ace in the hole as long as possible | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On September 27 2013 12:14 Forikorder wrote: if they go all out from the start then your opponent can counter and fluke a win its better to save your ace in the hole as long as possible Um, no. They rarely counter the first thing (and if they do, they only do so partially). That's why people always think they've won without having to go all-out, and then get "Ha! You didn't kill me. Now let me show you my powerup!" from their opponent. If you make your first thing the most powerful thing you have, it's very likely they'll just croak there and then. But it rarely happens in shounen manga (or stories in general, but it's most likely encountered in manga as Kubo isn't the only one who does arbitrary powerups and 1-upmanships). You have to get severely beaten before using your most powerful (at it's not so most powerful, because you can't do that when you're so severely beaten), and only then you can win. Or however the plot logic goes. I wonder if Kyo (of Samurai Deeper Kyo) is a subversion of that trope, seeing how he prefers not to go all out in the first place to give himself a challenge, or whatnot. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 27 2013 12:20 sumsaR wrote: Um, no. They rarely counter the first thing (and if they do, they only do so partially). That's why people always think they've won, and then get "Ha! You didn't kill me. Now let me show you my powerup!" from their opponent. If you make your first thing the most powerful thing you have, it's very likely they'll just croak there and then. But it rarely happens in shounen manga (or stories in general, but it's most likely encountered in manga as Kubo isn't the only one who does arbitrary powerups and 1-upmanships). they dont counter because they realise they can witchstand the attack and a counter wouldnt work its always best to take out an opponent with minmum strength needed that means you have more strength to fight the next opponent and your opponent doesnt know how strong you are | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On September 27 2013 12:21 Forikorder wrote: they dont counter because they realise they can witchstand the attack and a counter wouldnt work its always best to take out an opponent with minmum strength needed that means you have more strength to fight the next opponent and your opponent doesnt know how strong you are Overwhelming force. Leave no witnesses. Just because you use your most powerful stuff doesn't mean it'll have to drain you. Actually, more often than not, you get more drained by getting beaten up before you defeat the enemy than just 1-shotting them. But that wouldn't be exciting, so authors rarely do it. They're too predictable. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 27 2013 12:25 sumsaR wrote: Overwhelming force. Leave no witnesses. Just because you use your most powerful stuff doesn't mean it'll have to drain you. Actually, more often than not, you get more drained by getting beaten up before you defeat the enemy than just 1-shotting them. But that wouldn't be exciting, so authors rarely do it. They're too predictable. the more you put in an attack the easier it is to do a duel exchange, if you go full out on weaklings youll just keep getting hurt more and more when you didnt need to its also possible that there ace in the hole can directly counter only your ace but cant beat you if you dont pull your ace | ||
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
Her going "all out" is touching you twice. With a finger. | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On September 27 2013 12:20 sumsaR wrote: I wonder if Kyo (of Samurai Deeper Kyo) is a subversion of that trope, seeing how he prefers not to go all out in the first place to give himself a challenge, or whatnot. SDK is so awesomely funny, it's still one of my favorite. SDK's power-ups can put Bleach ones to shame, but I'm sure that was intended. It's the same reason I mostly read Bleach, it reminds me of that manga, even if clearly not as good/bad. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On September 27 2013 12:55 Conquest101 wrote: Seriously. Soi Fon. Her going "all out" is touching you twice. With a finger. Coupled with the now "perfected" Shunkō she'd have no issues getting close enough to deliver two fast ones either. Instead she tries to punch them and then get beaten in turn. That's draining you more. Forik's argument falls flat just because of her. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 27 2013 23:01 sumsaR wrote: Coupled with the now "perfected" Shunkō she'd have no issues getting close enough to deliver two fast ones either. Instead she tries to punch them and then get beaten in turn. That's draining you more. Forik's argument falls flat just because of her. ya its stupid for her not be using her Shikai at all that part doesnt make sense Kubo will probably go "oh i cant use Shunko and Shikai at same time" or some other BS | ||
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FezTheCaliph
United States492 Posts
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gedatsu
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
I don't like how Kubo is continually.... making CC seem like a fucking chump.. -_-' | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On September 28 2013 02:08 FezTheCaliph wrote: Well going "all out" is pretty draining. And they are fighting a war not a battle. You try and take out your opponent with as little effort as possible to save up for the next opponent. Like when Aizen stepped in after Ichigo/Byakyua/FormerCC/Utake/CurrentCC/Soi Fong/Yourichi were all tired from battle. Let's define "going all out" as 'using your most effective attack to take someone out'. If it's draining or not depends on a specific character. In the case of Soi, her most effective way of taking someone out wold be using her Shikai and hitting someone twice. That's hardly draining. But hey, that rarely happens in manga storytelling as it would be anticlimactic (but more often than not it would enrich a story, but mangaka in general does not realise that). | ||
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shark.
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asongdotnet
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And is just me, or is Rangiku showing even more cleavage then usual? 
