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Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
September 26 2013 20:29 GMT
#7621
On September 11 2013 06:59 Greggle wrote:
Hitsugaya is the captain they use to show how powerful enemies are. Expect him to get rolled.


Called it.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 26 2013 20:37 GMT
#7622
yah he's a worf
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
September 26 2013 21:02 GMT
#7623
On September 27 2013 04:22 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 04:09 NewSunshine wrote:
On September 18 2013 06:11 Purind wrote:
On September 18 2013 01:10 Myles wrote:
What in DBZ wasn't anime filler? And is just me, or is Rangiku showing even more cleavage then usual?


What did you think Kubo was working on during the hiatus? The plot?

This made me laugh a while back, but it's only getting more appropriate.


I loled at this too :D Bleach is bad but this thread makes reading it worthy.


Bleach isn't bad at all. I just re-read the chapter. Soi Fong's back, OMG. Bleach is great
Trucy Wright is hot
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 26 2013 21:12 GMT
#7624
On September 26 2013 03:03 Kyuukyuu wrote:
i'm actually really surprised they haven't used fox-captain as a punching bag yet. usually him and his extraordinarily shitty shikai/bankai are just enemy fodder


You have to admit, his bankai makes for the perfect punching bag.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 27 2013 02:12 GMT
#7625
i lub soi fon's back
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 27 2013 03:14 GMT
#7626
On September 27 2013 04:09 sumsaR wrote:
Someone should teach heroes and villains in shounen mangas to go all out right away and not give enemies time to 1-up them. They'd know if they were genre savvy.

if they go all out from the start then your opponent can counter and fluke a win its better to save your ace in the hole as long as possible
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 03:23:16
September 27 2013 03:20 GMT
#7627
On September 27 2013 12:14 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 04:09 sumsaR wrote:
Someone should teach heroes and villains in shounen mangas to go all out right away and not give enemies time to 1-up them. They'd know if they were genre savvy.

if they go all out from the start then your opponent can counter and fluke a win its better to save your ace in the hole as long as possible

Um, no. They rarely counter the first thing (and if they do, they only do so partially). That's why people always think they've won without having to go all-out, and then get "Ha! You didn't kill me. Now let me show you my powerup!" from their opponent.

If you make your first thing the most powerful thing you have, it's very likely they'll just croak there and then. But it rarely happens in shounen manga (or stories in general, but it's most likely encountered in manga as Kubo isn't the only one who does arbitrary powerups and 1-upmanships). You have to get severely beaten before using your most powerful (at it's not so most powerful, because you can't do that when you're so severely beaten), and only then you can win. Or however the plot logic goes.

I wonder if Kyo (of Samurai Deeper Kyo) is a subversion of that trope, seeing how he prefers not to go all out in the first place to give himself a challenge, or whatnot.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 27 2013 03:21 GMT
#7628
On September 27 2013 12:20 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 12:14 Forikorder wrote:
On September 27 2013 04:09 sumsaR wrote:
Someone should teach heroes and villains in shounen mangas to go all out right away and not give enemies time to 1-up them. They'd know if they were genre savvy.

if they go all out from the start then your opponent can counter and fluke a win its better to save your ace in the hole as long as possible

Um, no. They rarely counter the first thing (and if they do, they only do so partially). That's why people always think they've won, and then get "Ha! You didn't kill me. Now let me show you my powerup!" from their opponent.

If you make your first thing the most powerful thing you have, it's very likely they'll just croak there and then. But it rarely happens in shounen manga (or stories in general, but it's most likely encountered in manga as Kubo isn't the only one who does arbitrary powerups and 1-upmanships).

they dont counter because they realise they can witchstand the attack and a counter wouldnt work

its always best to take out an opponent with minmum strength needed that means you have more strength to fight the next opponent and your opponent doesnt know how strong you are
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
September 27 2013 03:25 GMT
#7629
On September 27 2013 12:21 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 12:20 sumsaR wrote:
On September 27 2013 12:14 Forikorder wrote:
On September 27 2013 04:09 sumsaR wrote:
Someone should teach heroes and villains in shounen mangas to go all out right away and not give enemies time to 1-up them. They'd know if they were genre savvy.

if they go all out from the start then your opponent can counter and fluke a win its better to save your ace in the hole as long as possible

Um, no. They rarely counter the first thing (and if they do, they only do so partially). That's why people always think they've won, and then get "Ha! You didn't kill me. Now let me show you my powerup!" from their opponent.

If you make your first thing the most powerful thing you have, it's very likely they'll just croak there and then. But it rarely happens in shounen manga (or stories in general, but it's most likely encountered in manga as Kubo isn't the only one who does arbitrary powerups and 1-upmanships).

they dont counter because they realise they can witchstand the attack and a counter wouldnt work

its always best to take out an opponent with minmum strength needed that means you have more strength to fight the next opponent and your opponent doesnt know how strong you are

Overwhelming force. Leave no witnesses.

Just because you use your most powerful stuff doesn't mean it'll have to drain you. Actually, more often than not, you get more drained by getting beaten up before you defeat the enemy than just 1-shotting them.

But that wouldn't be exciting, so authors rarely do it. They're too predictable.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 27 2013 03:37 GMT
#7630
On September 27 2013 12:25 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 12:21 Forikorder wrote:
On September 27 2013 12:20 sumsaR wrote:
On September 27 2013 12:14 Forikorder wrote:
On September 27 2013 04:09 sumsaR wrote:
Someone should teach heroes and villains in shounen mangas to go all out right away and not give enemies time to 1-up them. They'd know if they were genre savvy.

if they go all out from the start then your opponent can counter and fluke a win its better to save your ace in the hole as long as possible

Um, no. They rarely counter the first thing (and if they do, they only do so partially). That's why people always think they've won, and then get "Ha! You didn't kill me. Now let me show you my powerup!" from their opponent.

If you make your first thing the most powerful thing you have, it's very likely they'll just croak there and then. But it rarely happens in shounen manga (or stories in general, but it's most likely encountered in manga as Kubo isn't the only one who does arbitrary powerups and 1-upmanships).

they dont counter because they realise they can witchstand the attack and a counter wouldnt work

its always best to take out an opponent with minmum strength needed that means you have more strength to fight the next opponent and your opponent doesnt know how strong you are

Overwhelming force. Leave no witnesses.

Just because you use your most powerful stuff doesn't mean it'll have to drain you. Actually, more often than not, you get more drained by getting beaten up before you defeat the enemy than just 1-shotting them.

But that wouldn't be exciting, so authors rarely do it. They're too predictable.


the more you put in an attack the easier it is to do a duel exchange, if you go full out on weaklings youll just keep getting hurt more and more when you didnt need to

its also possible that there ace in the hole can directly counter only your ace but cant beat you if you dont pull your ace
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 03:56:39
September 27 2013 03:55 GMT
#7631
Seriously. Soi Fon.
Her going "all out" is touching you twice. With a finger.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
September 27 2013 10:14 GMT
#7632
On September 27 2013 12:20 sumsaR wrote:
I wonder if Kyo (of Samurai Deeper Kyo) is a subversion of that trope, seeing how he prefers not to go all out in the first place to give himself a challenge, or whatnot.


SDK is so awesomely funny, it's still one of my favorite.
SDK's power-ups can put Bleach ones to shame, but I'm sure that was intended. It's the same reason I mostly read Bleach, it reminds me of that manga, even if clearly not as good/bad.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
September 27 2013 14:01 GMT
#7633
On September 27 2013 12:55 Conquest101 wrote:
Seriously. Soi Fon.
Her going "all out" is touching you twice. With a finger.

Coupled with the now "perfected" Shunkō she'd have no issues getting close enough to deliver two fast ones either. Instead she tries to punch them and then get beaten in turn. That's draining you more. Forik's argument falls flat just because of her.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 27 2013 16:50 GMT
#7634
On September 27 2013 23:01 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 12:55 Conquest101 wrote:
Seriously. Soi Fon.
Her going "all out" is touching you twice. With a finger.

Coupled with the now "perfected" Shunkō she'd have no issues getting close enough to deliver two fast ones either. Instead she tries to punch them and then get beaten in turn. That's draining you more. Forik's argument falls flat just because of her.

ya its stupid for her not be using her Shikai at all that part doesnt make sense

Kubo will probably go "oh i cant use Shunko and Shikai at same time" or some other BS
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
September 27 2013 17:08 GMT
#7635
Well going "all out" is pretty draining. And they are fighting a war not a battle. You try and take out your opponent with as little effort as possible to save up for the next opponent. Like when Aizen stepped in after Ichigo/Byakyua/FormerCC/Utake/CurrentCC/Soi Fong/Yourichi were all tired from battle.
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
September 27 2013 17:12 GMT
#7636
I have no idea what's going on in this manga anymore.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 27 2013 17:21 GMT
#7637
While i'm glad the story is at least... moving somewhere and we're not in OMG FLASHBACK UPON FLASHBACK in LALA land getting new weapon/powerups/ultra healing anymore...

I don't like how Kubo is continually.... making CC seem like a fucking chump..

-_-'
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
September 27 2013 18:41 GMT
#7638
On September 28 2013 02:08 FezTheCaliph wrote:
Well going "all out" is pretty draining. And they are fighting a war not a battle. You try and take out your opponent with as little effort as possible to save up for the next opponent. Like when Aizen stepped in after Ichigo/Byakyua/FormerCC/Utake/CurrentCC/Soi Fong/Yourichi were all tired from battle.

Let's define "going all out" as 'using your most effective attack to take someone out'.

If it's draining or not depends on a specific character. In the case of Soi, her most effective way of taking someone out wold be using her Shikai and hitting someone twice. That's hardly draining.

But hey, that rarely happens in manga storytelling as it would be anticlimactic (but more often than not it would enrich a story, but mangaka in general does not realise that).
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
September 27 2013 18:44 GMT
#7639
"The laws of Plot be a harsh mistress"
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
September 27 2013 18:46 GMT
#7640
this arc is just so lackluster with no real backstory development...
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