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On July 13 2019 09:18 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2019 06:43 IgnE wrote:
It has a mathematical similarity to gerrymandering and favors slightly above average movies at the expense of more challenging, more divisive films which provoke a strong reaction. I highly disagree with this take. A 9/10 on rotten tomatoes is not the same as a 9/10 rating over all and I can understand how it overvalues above average movies and buries blow average movies but it does a lot better at cutting through a lot of the garbage movies that were in the past with other ratings systems. That the majority of people don't want to watch movies that are made to make them feel worse shouldn't be a surprise.
Movie ratings are subjective. My point is that RT favors massive budget movies with market-tested scripts and special effects over the movie playing at the art house theater made for a few million dollars, even though, ceteris paribus, many educated people who know and care about movies would find the art house movies "better" movies. Many very good movies are "pointier" movies that can achieve profound affective/intellectual results, but also run the risk of simply turning some people off. Marvel movies are essentially sanded down to a smooth finish. How else do you explain why The Favourite (2018) has roughly the average score across all Marvel Movies (93%)? Now that I've named names, of course, we can expect people to chime in about who am I to say what's better than what, and after all hasn't the market spoken?
But if your only point is that RT acts as a filter for trash movies that might have survived and made a profit in the past off of the public's ignorance, then yes, I agree. But it is your last line that is more interesting. Are the "best" movies just those that can be counted on to provide a pleasant distraction? Is the point of looking at an RT score to get some idea of how sure you can be that a movie will only add a very modest flourish to a predictable story arc without straying too far outside a narrow affective range: dull stupor to mild amusement? And don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking a dull stupor. Just dull stupor as gold standard. At least "bad" movies actively irritate you.
Imagine a rating system that ranks Anna Karenina or Middlemarch as roughly equivalent to The Girl on the Train or The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
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I'm saying that the statistical method that RT uses lends itself to the broadest audience instead of the most select audience. That this should be clear and obvious as (for whatever reason) the majority of the viewing audience generally wants marvel movies over the favorite. Having the window lickers chime in for what movies they want to watch is not going to deliver sensible results for movies that they aren't used to watching or generally are looking to watch.
The expression of data is purely contextual. In the context of RT's method, The "best" movies are those that can be counted on to be a pleasant distraction and/or reliably entertaining. Basically, Marvel movies are designed and machined down to fit this.
I genuinely don't know how you'd find a way to make art house or more indie movies comparable statistically. I loved the dead don't die and yesterday but I couldn't compare them to rocketman or john wick.
Edit: Damm I was working on my 10k post I'm proud of this one though.
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I guess I just don't understand what you "highly disagree with" then.
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Spiderman: Far From Home
Pretty average Marvel movie. Better than Captain Marvel, probably the best one since Infinity War, but still just a Marvel movie really.
Not much else to say about it. If you've seen a Marvel movie before, this one is the same, the structure and writing were tight but uninspiring, performances were ok and the fights were very long and relentless.
The jokes weren't funny, which is very disappointing for a Spiderman movie to be honest. It had the light-hearted tone, but most of the jokes were just missed opportunities.
7/10
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On July 14 2019 03:49 IgnE wrote:
I guess I just don't understand what you "highly disagree with" then.
That RT is somehow rigged against TLJ type films or "divisive films" when those movies are suppose to not be liked by the masses.
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TLJ is an odd choice. That’s just a mediocre movie and not what I was talking about.
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I’m 30 and I enjoyed the fuck outta Far from Home
It’s very subjective obviously.. for instance: I’d only put end game and infinity wars at 6-7/10 but I’d put Ragnarok and Galaxies at 8-9/10.
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i finally saw Endgame and man did i think that movie sucked. like, i appreciate that they needed to like finish a story line, and they did so with some grace, but i was bored the whole way through.
and i really love marvel movies. i watched them all again in a row just leading up to it for fun. i’d rate this as bottom four.
on the other hand, i really enjoyed Captain Marvel. It was so fun it made me want to rate it against Ragnorak at times as far as how entertaining it was.
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Saw Stuber.
Pretty funny, as the trailer suggested. Story is nothing deep. Just funny scenes and acting. Pretty close to Game Night and I LOVED that movie.
Solid 6.5/10 for me.
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I'm worried about the Lion King. It's my GF's favourite movie, I love it, and it looks like it's going to suck.
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On July 14 2019 14:08 Emnjay808 wrote:
I’m 30 and I enjoyed the fuck outta Far from Home
It’s very subjective obviously.. for instance: I’d only put end game and infinity wars at 6-7/10 but I’d put Ragnarok and Galaxies at 8-9/10.
Haha, same.
I've been thinking about one thing: + Show Spoiler +you can see the Mysterio twist coming, but I wonder how much of that is previous knowledge that the he's a villain whose power is deception and also how much of it is knowledge that movies don't simply resolve their main conflict 1 hour in
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NYT is reporting Bond will now be a black female lead.
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United States42693 Posts
On July 15 2019 23:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
NYT is reporting Bond will now be a black female lead.
I look forward to all the American media describing her as African American the way they did with Idris Elba when he was considered.
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On July 15 2019 23:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
NYT is reporting Bond will now be a black female lead.
Anything better than that gorilla head they used for the last couple movies
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
On July 15 2019 23:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
NYT is reporting Bond will now be a black female lead.
Wonder who that would be though, trying to think of really good black female actress' out there..hmmm. Would rather it went to Idris tbf as he is a very gritty English person and deserves it imo.
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On July 15 2019 11:59 Emnjay808 wrote:
Saw Stuber.
Pretty funny, as the trailer suggested. Story is nothing deep. Just funny scenes and acting. Pretty close to Game Night and I LOVED that movie.
Solid 6.5/10 for me.
I was surprised how much hilarity Game Night managed to squeeze out of its cliched premise (the character dynamics, not the plot itself). McAdams 100% carried that movie.
On July 15 2019 23:55 solidbebe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2019 23:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
NYT is reporting Bond will now be a black female lead. Anything better than that gorilla head they used for the last couple movies
It's almost like Casino Royale was faithful to the original Fleming works instead of the tongue-in-cheek charades that usually populate its film oeuvre. Quantum of Solace was misguided, Skyfall uneven in terms of plot lines and well...there were no other movies, right? 
On July 16 2019 04:11 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2019 23:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
NYT is reporting Bond will now be a black female lead. Wonder who that would be though, trying to think of really good black female actress' out there..hmmm. Would rather it went to Idris tbf as he is a very gritty English person and deserves it imo.
The actress' name is Lashana Lynch.
Idris was always too old to be a realistic choice.
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Oh god she was in Brotherhood xD
Well hope she gets a good film and script because she will get slaughtered unfairly otherwise. Good luck to her though, huge opportunity for her.
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On July 16 2019 04:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2019 11:59 Emnjay808 wrote:
Saw Stuber.
Pretty funny, as the trailer suggested. Story is nothing deep. Just funny scenes and acting. Pretty close to Game Night and I LOVED that movie.
Solid 6.5/10 for me. I was surprised how much hilarity Game Night managed to squeeze out of its cliched premise. McAdams 100% carried that movie.
Also Jesse Plemons, and absolutely nailing that razor thin style.
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I always thought Idris Elba would make a great Bond. He’s effortlessly cool, a sex icon, and has a fantastic range as an actor.
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On July 16 2019 04:54 KwarK wrote:
I always thought Idris Elba would make a great Bond. He’s effortlessly cool, a sex icon, and has a fantastic range as an actor.
Turn Up Charlie was hilarious. Did not expect that.
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