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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
I guess not every episode of an adaptation from a book can contain a complete narrative, have important stuff happening, contain memorable scenes, or get you excited about the next week. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
I never read the book, but this is shaping out to be one of my top favorite shows already | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On April 26 2011 16:48 Fraidnot wrote: 2nd episode was about... hmm... hold on a sec um it's at the tip of my tongue... ah it was about, it was about... I guess some dogs, and a boy, waking up from a coma? Yeah, yup I'm almost positive that's what it was about. I guess not every episode of an adaptation from a book can contain a complete narrative, have important stuff happening, contain memorable scenes, or get you excited about the next week. Guess you missed the part where they tried to assassinate a little boy? Have you thought about the impact of Bran waking up could have for the entire realm? | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
Also, Robb looks and feels like Paul Atreides a bit to me, anyone? | ||
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
On April 26 2011 16:29 pred470r wrote: Is it just me not remembering or did Cersei in the books never admit to having a dead born child, which she did in episode 2? You're right. I never saw that in book either. And I just read through chapters which were included in second episode. What I wanted to see was the Bran's dream. It could have been a cool contrast to everything else. | ||
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Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
On April 26 2011 16:53 zerglingsfolife wrote: Guess you missed the part where they tried to assassinate a little boy? Have you thought about the impact of Bran waking up could have for the entire realm? I get that the show is essential political intrigue with a fantasy backdrop and plot points are more cloke and dagger and a less LoTR, but if that's the way it gets played out they need to bring the intrigue and secrecy. The thing is that the audience already know the season's big secret after the first episode, so now that we know we're looking for new plot points or them to use dramatic irony to keep us invested. That doesn't happen, the plot point of killing someone to hide the relationship is just rehashing the King's right hand man and Bran again.Just as far as the plot goes they could have completely left this episode out, because at the end of the day nothing happened. Simply edit the first episode have Bran fall on top of one of the wolves(killing it and preventing his coma) have Mrs Stark choose to join her husband and have the 13 year old princess get down with Drogo on the first night. Tada! one less episode. Maybe if I was super invested in Bran and the wolves the episode would have carried more weight. I suppose if I had read the books I might feel that way but after two episodes you barely know them and neither the two biting scenes or the death of one of them was really worth seeing. | ||
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Mattes
Germany1116 Posts
On April 26 2011 17:48 Fraidnot wrote: The thing is that the audience already know the season's big secret after the first episode Cersei and Jaime fucking in the abandoned tower is not the seasons big secret. | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
You don't really understand if you think your solutions of editing out episode 2 would work lol. | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On April 26 2011 17:48 Fraidnot wrote: I get that the show is essential political intrigue with a fantasy backdrop and plot points are more cloke and dagger and a less LoTR, but if that's the way it gets played out they need to bring the intrigue and secrecy. The thing is that the audience already know the season's big secret after the first episode, so now that we know we're looking for new plot points or them to use dramatic irony to keep us invested. That doesn't happen, the plot point of killing someone to hide the relationship is just rehashing the King's right hand man and Bran again.Just as far as the plot goes they could have completely left this episode out, because at the end of the day nothing happened. Simply edit the first episode have Bran fall on top of one of the wolves(killing it and preventing his coma) have Mrs Stark choose to join her husband and have the 13 year old princess get down with Drogo on the first night. Tada! one less episode. Maybe if I was super invested in Bran and the wolves the episode would have carried more weight. I suppose if I had read the books I might feel that way but after two episodes you barely know them and neither the two biting scenes or the death of one of them was really worth seeing. Alas, the tragedy of trying to condense a huge book into ten episodes. The reason why so many of these adaptations fail is because the story is too complex to chop apart into sections. They need to show everything, or nothing at all. The main point of this last episode was that Ned killed Sansa's direwolf. + Show Spoiler + He will reflect next episode about how stupid he was not to fight more against this, since Starks have direwolves as their banner, and Bran's direwolf just saved Bran. hint hint. The direwolves mean something. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On April 26 2011 03:14 zz_ wrote: I'm not even sure what you're hinting at here, but whatever it is, stop it. Like people have already said dozens of times in this thread, this is a thread for the TV show, not the books. If you want to talk about, or even hint at, something from the books, then use the goddam spoiler tags. On April 26 2011 04:13 Cedstick wrote: Yea, he just mis-used the term, "ironic." It's not ironic, moreso bitter and tongue-in-cheek. irony: 2a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning. He used the word correctly and he wasn't spoiling anything. Now relax. | ||
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Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
On April 26 2011 18:01 Mattes wrote: Cersei and Jaime fucking in the abandoned tower is not the seasons big secret. Well that would have been a cool thing to hint at because right now the show looks like it revolves around the incest. + Show Spoiler + Or maybe they did and... OMG Snow's mother! What the hell is wrong with George R. R. Martin On April 26 2011 18:07 Blisse wrote: The main point of this last episode was that Ned killed Sansa's direwolf. + Show Spoiler + He will reflect next episode about how stupid he was not to fight more against this, since Starks have direwolves as their banner, and Bran's direwolf just saved Bran. hint hint. The direwolves mean something. It's pretty obvious that the direwolves are somehow important to the story but just them being fantastic creatures isn't enough to keep interest (Cue complaining about lack of attachment again) Maybe they cut a scene or something I don't know but just being told that they're worth devoting an episode to just doesn't make it compelling. | ||
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
But you are right in a way. As I see it, the two frist episodes has mainly served to introduce us to the plot and the characters. Now the setting is set. We know the Lannisters are evil, we know the wolves are important, we know something stirs north of the wall. And all the characters have gotten their different destinations for the first season in a way. First season big spoiler hint: + Show Spoiler + Though you're closer than you know about the incest part... | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [pictures] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6Z5iO.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://media.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/titles/the-seventh-seal/4990/screenshot-med-06.jpg) | ||
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betaV1.25
425 Posts
The pieces are being set on the board, lets get ready to rumble  | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On April 26 2011 16:29 pred470r wrote: Is it just me not remembering or did Cersei in the books never admit to having a dead born child, which she did in episode 2? Book Spoilers + Show Spoiler + Cersei admits to Ned that Robert had gotten her pregnant once but she had the foetus killed by a nurse in one of his later chapters when he reveals that he knows about her and Jaime's incest. This leads me to interpret Cersei as being her usual lying, manipulating self in that added scene this episode. However, the writers openly said that the scene was open to interpretation and that they actually believe Cersei. The writers also said that the scene humanises Cersei and makes her character more complex. Check the interview on hbo's website. | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On April 26 2011 18:47 Fraidnot wrote: Well that would have been a cool thing to hint at because right now the show looks like it revolves around the incest. + Show Spoiler + Or maybe they did and... OMG Snow's mother! What the hell is wrong with George R. R. Martin It's pretty obvious that the direwolves are somehow important to the story but just them being fantastic creatures isn't enough to keep interest (Cue complaining about lack of attachment again) Maybe they cut a scene or something I don't know but just being told that they're worth devoting an episode to just doesn't make it compelling. I have not read the books, but I am pretty fucking sure those dragon eggs are going to hatch and eventually going to cause a shitload of havok. They were shown many times in the episode, for really no reason, surrounded by the fire. Felt like foreshadowing to me. And a bigger deal then incest if that is what happens. Huge shift in power. | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10842 Posts
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