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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On April 26 2011 20:52 Enox wrote: i don't get why the older daughter (cant remember the name) rather sacrifices her own, innocent wolf instead of telling the truth -.- Pretty sure it didn't matter. They already knew what dog bit the kid. That wasn't the issue. The queen wanted to kill that dog because in her mind the next best thing was killing the wolves kin. | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
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chroniX
517 Posts
On April 26 2011 20:52 Enox wrote: i don't get why the older daughter (cant remember the name) rather sacrifices her own, innocent wolf instead of telling the truth -.- yea i think thats weird without having read the book. it seems her character isnt fully developed at this point in the series. sansa (older daughter) is totally in love with the prince and she hates her sister arya because she is everyting sansa doesnt like. not only that , its her dream to be a real lady and to be with the noble folk in kings landing. she would do anything to make it happen. even lie to the king and betray her own sister...once she lied tho, theres no way back! | ||
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Macabre
United States1262 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 26 2011 20:52 Enox wrote: i don't get why the older daughter (cant remember the name) rather sacrifices her own, innocent wolf instead of telling the truth -.- Children are stupid :D | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 26 2011 20:46 Bosu wrote: I have not read the books, but I am pretty fucking sure those dragon eggs are going to hatch and eventually going to cause a shitload of havok. They were shown many times in the episode, for really no reason, surrounded by the fire. Felt like foreshadowing to me. And a bigger deal then incest if that is what happens. Huge shift in power. Well in the books they tell you a lot of Targaryans tried to hatch dragons from their eggs but failed, some even went so far as to think they were the dragons that needed to transform themselves and decided to eat fire :D The zoom ins on the Eggs without this background is kind of pointless as the viewer does not know what these eggs mean to the Targaryans and to Daenerys. | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On April 26 2011 16:55 shinarit wrote: like Cersei's dead children (which is deviation from the books afaik, but a good one, brings out her personality (the books make her much more plain)), Seemed to me like she was simply lying about her dead child. There never was a black haired baby. + Show Spoiler + Especially considering her resentment towards Robert in the books, which was there from day 1 of the marriage and considering she only wants to have children with Jamie Though from what Headly has been saying about her character in interviews, that Cersi loved Robert at one point and stuff like that, I'm afraid they're trying to humanize Cersi too much. She's complex enough in the books, there's no need to add this trite emotinal dimension with regards to her marriage to Robert and dead children + Show Spoiler + (that she didn't intentionally abort, like in the books) | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
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Doppelganger
488 Posts
On April 26 2011 17:48 Fraidnot wrote: I get that the show is essential political intrigue with a fantasy backdrop and plot points are more cloke and dagger and a less LoTR, but if that's the way it gets played out they need to bring the intrigue and secrecy. The thing is that the audience already know the season's big secret after the first episode, so now that we know we're looking for new plot points or them to use dramatic irony to keep us invested. That doesn't happen, the plot point of killing someone to hide the relationship is just rehashing the King's right hand man and Bran again.Just as far as the plot goes they could have completely left this episode out, because at the end of the day nothing happened. Simply edit the first episode have Bran fall on top of one of the wolves(killing it and preventing his coma) have Mrs Stark choose to join her husband and have the 13 year old princess get down with Drogo on the first night. Tada! one less episode. Maybe if I was super invested in Bran and the wolves the episode would have carried more weight. I suppose if I had read the books I might feel that way but after two episodes you barely know them and neither the two biting scenes or the death of one of them was really worth seeing. Why they did not cut: This is an Adaption of a Book, yeah you might butcher the story to shorten it up. But even the small things will get more and more important. For Example + Show Spoiler [ mildest spoiler ever] + "The Hound" and Ser Ilyn Payne are not introduced for shits and giggles. And you would piss of the fanboys. XD | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
On April 26 2011 20:46 Bosu wrote: I have not read the books, but I am pretty fucking sure those dragon eggs are going to hatch and eventually going to cause a shitload of havok. They were shown many times in the episode, for really no reason, surrounded by the fire. Felt like foreshadowing to me. And a bigger deal then incest if that is what happens. Huge shift in power. Well, Targaryen's are the dragon-family (thats their banner and as someone mentioned, they tried to hatch dragons all the time (they conquered with them ~300 years ago, but they died, only left eggs)), so its natural they are pulled by them. Also, Illyrio said they are beautiful, which we have to believe because they dont seem so nice to me. + Show Spoiler + Also, they WILL hatch, but they wont have to hatch to have the camera look at them, they are dragon eggs after all. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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NonY
8748 Posts
On April 26 2011 20:52 Enox wrote: i don't get why the older daughter (cant remember the name) rather sacrifices her own, innocent wolf instead of telling the truth -.- she could not have foreseen that her wolf was going to die because of her lie. by saying she doesnt remember anything, she's attempting to stay out of it. her surprise and outrage are clear when she learns that her wolf is going to die. if you're suggesting she change her story "oh actually i do remember now!" then that's ridiculous | ||
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
I LOVED the scene with Bran and the assassin. It was everything I was hoping for and more. You should have seen my wife cringe when the blood started coming out of her hands. | ||
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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
On April 26 2011 21:43 Quotidian wrote: Seemed to me like she was simply lying about her dead child. There never was a black haired baby. + Show Spoiler + Especially considering her resentment towards Robert in the books, which was there from day 1 of the marriage and considering she only wants to have children with Jamie Though from what Headly has been saying about her character in interviews, that Cersi loved Robert at one point and stuff like that, I'm afraid they're trying to humanize Cersi too much. She's complex enough in the books, there's no need to add this trite emotinal dimension with regards to her marriage to Robert and dead children + Show Spoiler + (that she didn't intentionally abort, like in the books) I don't think she was lying about the dead child. I don't remember the books well enough to recall if it comes up in the books. However, it is an interesting story in light of later revelations. I think most viewers find Cercei pretty despicable, I wouldn't be afraid of the creators 'humanizing' her too much. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On April 26 2011 23:18 Igakusei wrote: I was a little disappointed at the scene where Arya chased her wolf away. Not nearly as intense as that in the book, but I guess I can understand that the episode can only be so long and they have a lot of ground to cover. I LOVED the scene with Bran and the assassin. It was everything I was hoping for and more. You should have seen my wife cringe when the blood started coming out of her hands. I fucking cringed. I knew it was coming and it made it like 10x worse. I barely remember anything from book 1 but I remembered the nasty ass hand gash spewing blood everywhere. But the wolf snuggled afterwards so it was coo. | ||
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
On April 26 2011 23:24 _Darwin_ wrote: I fucking cringed. I knew it was coming and it made it like 10x worse. I barely remember anything from book 1 but I remembered the nasty ass hand gash spewing blood everywhere. But the wolf snuggled afterwards so it was coo. I should admit that I cringed like hell, too. The arterial pulsing in the dying assassin's neck was also a nice touch. | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
How do we all feel about Mark Addy's performance as King Robert? I had an interesting conversation with my roomates about this last night, wanted to know everyones thoughts | ||
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betaV1.25
425 Posts
On April 26 2011 23:44 Igakusei wrote: I should admit that I cringed like hell, too. The arterial pulsing in the dying assassin's neck was also a nice touch. Actually my wife stood behind me during that scene, she tapped on my shoulder and asked me: WTF ARE YOU WATCHING? | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
On April 26 2011 23:44 Igakusei wrote: I should admit that I cringed like hell, too. The arterial pulsing in the dying assassin's neck was also a nice touch. I can deal with the gore and stuff fine. The jugular blood was a relief. It's the actual slicing that does it for me. Especially the hands. Direwolf luckily OP. | ||
KwarK
United States41984 Posts
On April 26 2011 23:13 Liquid`Tyler wrote: she could not have foreseen that her wolf was going to die because of her lie. by saying she doesnt remember anything, she's attempting to stay out of it. her surprise and outrage are clear when she learns that her wolf is going to die. if you're suggesting she change her story "oh actually i do remember now!" then that's ridiculous Could at least have followed a "please don't do this Joff" line. | ||
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