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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:19:26
May 03 2013 17:06 GMT
#15201
On May 04 2013 01:41 Slayer91 wrote:
He really isn't. Arya hasn't proved herself to be particularly skilled in any way and syrio hasn't proven himself either. Why woul you assume they're so amazing?

The fact that he cited valid points and you just ignore them and go ad hominem I think is pathetic.

I've been on the internet long enough to see where the argument was going and i ended it. as soon as you bring up crap like that its best to just agree to disagree and move on.
if you want me to adress his points:

He argued that a weapon designed to pierce armor isn't good vs armor. i can't really argue against that besides stating how its wrong.

He argued that arya shooting a bulls eye from 100 feet (twice the distance bran missed a target from) with a recurve bow (that take strength to use), doesn't matter because bran is bad at archery. i can't really argue against that besides its wrong. there was no discussion.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
May 03 2013 17:23 GMT
#15202
On May 04 2013 01:41 Slayer91 wrote:
He really isn't. Arya hasn't proved herself to be particularly skilled in any way and syrio hasn't proven himself either. Why woul you assume they're so amazing?

The fact that he cited valid points and you just ignore them and go ad hominem I think is pathetic.


Syrio proved himself at least a little bit. Took on several heavily armored guards/knights with a wooden sword, killing a couple of them, and only fell once he took on a knight of the kingsguard in full plate. With a wooden sword.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:34:13
May 03 2013 17:26 GMT
#15203
On May 04 2013 02:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 01:41 Slayer91 wrote:
He really isn't. Arya hasn't proved herself to be particularly skilled in any way and syrio hasn't proven himself either. Why woul you assume they're so amazing?

The fact that he cited valid points and you just ignore them and go ad hominem I think is pathetic.

I've been on the internet long enough to see where the argument was going and i ended it. as soon as you bring up crap like that its best to just agree to disagree and move on.
if you want me to adress his points:

He argued that a weapon designed to pierce armor isn't good vs armor. i can't really argue against that besides stating how its wrong.

He argued that arya shooting a bulls eye from 100 feet (twice the distance bran missed a target from) with a recurve bow (that take strength to use), doesn't matter because bran is bad at archery. i can't really argue against that besides its wrong. there was no discussion.


It doesn't matter not because bran was bad at archery it doesn't matter because you were arguing she's going to be a great swordsman. If your statement was that she was going to be a great archer then sure.
which there is no other evidence other than her taking sword fighting classes
thats like saying your kid taking piano lessons is going to be mozart
I'm sure all the real knights and even some random dude in the nights watch has practiced sword fighting a LOT more than her

"He argued that a weapon designed to pierce armor isn't good vs armor. i can't really argue against that besides stating how its wrong."

Then state how its wrong. You stated THAT its wrong.
I can do that too. "You've argued a number of points, I can't argue against any of them except that they're wrong"
Hint: thats not an argument, that's a worthless statement since if you can't argue it you need some other way of showing our opinion is worth more than the other guys. (you are some expert in medieval sword fighting but not that articulate that you can explain. That would be a good one)

The point of armour is that most strikes and stabs will deflect off at an angle, there are weak points of course and thats where a thin and short sword might be useful but you have no momentum behind anything so you have to be skilled enough to get in and out without in counter strike. And in a big battle quickness doesn't really matter because there's no room to move around and its easy to block with a shield. So it's okay for 1 on 1 maybe she can duel and kill some people but I don't know why she'd want to do that.

On May 04 2013 02:23 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 01:41 Slayer91 wrote:
He really isn't. Arya hasn't proved herself to be particularly skilled in any way and syrio hasn't proven himself either. Why woul you assume they're so amazing?

The fact that he cited valid points and you just ignore them and go ad hominem I think is pathetic.


Syrio proved himself at least a little bit. Took on several heavily armored guards/knights with a wooden sword, killing a couple of them, and only fell once he took on a knight of the kingsguard in full plate. With a wooden sword.


He killed 2 of them with a wooden sword? lols
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 03 2013 17:27 GMT
#15204
Im quite positive he just knocked them out, hahahaha.
Skol
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 03 2013 17:28 GMT
#15205
beast
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
May 03 2013 17:31 GMT
#15206
Lol, how can anyone say Syrio isnt skilled? he fought with a fuckin wodden sword and won vs several men ...
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:33:07
May 03 2013 17:32 GMT
#15207
On May 04 2013 02:23 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 01:41 Slayer91 wrote:
He really isn't. Arya hasn't proved herself to be particularly skilled in any way and syrio hasn't proven himself either. Why woul you assume they're so amazing?

The fact that he cited valid points and you just ignore them and go ad hominem I think is pathetic.


Syrio proved himself at least a little bit. Took on several heavily armored guards/knights with a wooden sword, killing a couple of them, and only fell once he took on a knight of the kingsguard in full plate. With a wooden sword.


Firstly he didn't kill anyone, he knocked them unconscious and secondly it isn't known if he's dead or alive as the scene cut away. Some people think, since he's from the same place the guy who owed Arya 3 lives is from and that guy can change his face that they're one and the same people but this is all hypothetical as it is unknown whether or not he lived or died after the fight with the kings guard.

Also Syrio is the most badass swordsman.

"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:37:33
May 03 2013 17:33 GMT
#15208
I just remember 3 knights coming in and arya running away, didn't remember him beasting 2 dudes with a wooden sword.
Completely unrealistic that a little tiny short dude with 1 hand and a wooden sword can knock out people in massive armour 1 hit though.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 03 2013 17:35 GMT
#15209
Don't we hear him screaming just after the scene? As in a death scream?
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
May 03 2013 17:35 GMT
#15210
On May 04 2013 02:33 Slayer91 wrote:
I just remember 3 knights coming in and arya running away, didn't remember him beasting 2 dudes with a wooden sword.

Well sir, now you stand corrected as the first sword of Bravos is a badass motherfucking foreign bastard!
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:38:31
May 03 2013 17:37 GMT
#15211
On May 04 2013 02:35 SKC wrote:
Don't we hear him screaming just after the scene? As in a death scream?

It's still not known if that's him screaming or anyone else (as everyone was screaming the lan's are sacking the Stark's). You can rewatch the scenes but it's, as I said, unknown.

If you want to risk a google search you can but as far as I'm concerned from rewatching the scene multiple times it is unknown whether he's alive or not.

Note, however, it's not explicitly likely he is alive haha
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:41:53
May 03 2013 17:38 GMT
#15212
On May 04 2013 02:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 01:41 Slayer91 wrote:
He really isn't. Arya hasn't proved herself to be particularly skilled in any way and syrio hasn't proven himself either. Why woul you assume they're so amazing?

The fact that he cited valid points and you just ignore them and go ad hominem I think is pathetic.

I've been on the internet long enough to see where the argument was going and i ended it. as soon as you bring up crap like that its best to just agree to disagree and move on.


Syrio was chosen by Ned. That should suffice to make him a skilled enough fighter to really teach his daughter enough to actually survive a fight. But no matter how good he is, he can't beat A knight and half a dozen Lannister guards in such close quarters if he is unarmed.

Arya is still way too young and inexperienced to win an encounter with someone who really knows what he is doing. She got some months of training by Syrio? That should cover the basics and thats about it.

The style suits her and with the right weapon (most swords will be way to heavy for her) and right terrain she could become a difficult opponent even for more skilled people unfamiliar with the style or not used to fight someone more mobile (See the fight of Bronn against the knight of the Vale).
But any real knigh will be a though one. Concerning strength and reach she will probably always be at a disadvantage.

But her biggest strength should be that she will be underestimated and she probably won't find her in a battle (that would not go well).
I would not put her anywhere near the top though.

But we will have to see how she does in an actual fight.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:38:28
May 03 2013 17:38 GMT
#15213
On May 04 2013 02:37 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 02:35 SKC wrote:
Don't we hear him screaming just after the scene? As in a death scream?

It's still not known if that's him screaming or anyone else (as everyone was screaming the lan's are sacking the Stark's). You can rewatch the scenes but it's, as I said, unknown.

If you want to risk a google search you can but as far as I'm concerned from rewatching the scene multiple times it is unknown whether he's alive or not.



And what do we say to the god of spoilers - not today
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
May 03 2013 17:39 GMT
#15214
On May 04 2013 02:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 02:37 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 04 2013 02:35 SKC wrote:
Don't we hear him screaming just after the scene? As in a death scream?

It's still not known if that's him screaming or anyone else (as everyone was screaming the lan's are sacking the Stark's). You can rewatch the scenes but it's, as I said, unknown.

If you want to risk a google search you can but as far as I'm concerned from rewatching the scene multiple times it is unknown whether he's alive or not.



And what do we say to the god of spoilers - not today

hahahaha indeed that's why i stray as far away from googling any character im confused about
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:53:21
May 03 2013 17:51 GMT
#15215
On May 04 2013 02:38 Doppelganger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 02:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 04 2013 01:41 Slayer91 wrote:
He really isn't. Arya hasn't proved herself to be particularly skilled in any way and syrio hasn't proven himself either. Why woul you assume they're so amazing?

The fact that he cited valid points and you just ignore them and go ad hominem I think is pathetic.

I've been on the internet long enough to see where the argument was going and i ended it. as soon as you bring up crap like that its best to just agree to disagree and move on.


Syrio was chosen by Ned. That should suffice to make him a skilled enough fighter to really teach his daughter enough to actually survive a fight. But no matter how good he is, he can't beat A knight and half a dozen Lannister guards in such close quarters if he is unarmed.

Arya is still way too young and inexperienced to win an encounter with someone who really knows what he is doing. She got some months of training by Syrio? That should cover the basics and thats about it.

The style suits her and with the right weapon (most swords will be way to heavy for her) and right terrain she could become a difficult opponent even for more skilled people unfamiliar with the style or not used to fight someone more mobile (See the fight of Bronn against the knight of the Vale).
But any real knigh will be a though one. Concerning strength and reach she will probably always be at a disadvantage.

But her biggest strength should be that she will be underestimated and she probably won't find her in a battle (that would not go well).
I would not put her anywhere near the top though.

But we will have to see how she does in an actual fight.

hahah true. but i was saying with a few years training under syrio, arya would have been one of the better swordsman(woman?) in the continent. I mean, Braavos means syrious training.

xD

But i'm fairly confident that syrio lived. as for it not being realistic, he went for their heads. and one of of 4 men was taken down by his comrades sword. i'm fairly certain you get rattled when someone smacks your head really hard with a solid block of wood. even though a small helm. Though the guy who got slashed in the head/throat by his ally probably died.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
May 03 2013 17:55 GMT
#15216
On May 04 2013 02:51 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 02:38 Doppelganger wrote:
On May 04 2013 02:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 04 2013 01:41 Slayer91 wrote:
He really isn't. Arya hasn't proved herself to be particularly skilled in any way and syrio hasn't proven himself either. Why woul you assume they're so amazing?

The fact that he cited valid points and you just ignore them and go ad hominem I think is pathetic.

I've been on the internet long enough to see where the argument was going and i ended it. as soon as you bring up crap like that its best to just agree to disagree and move on.


Syrio was chosen by Ned. That should suffice to make him a skilled enough fighter to really teach his daughter enough to actually survive a fight. But no matter how good he is, he can't beat A knight and half a dozen Lannister guards in such close quarters if he is unarmed.

Arya is still way too young and inexperienced to win an encounter with someone who really knows what he is doing. She got some months of training by Syrio? That should cover the basics and thats about it.

The style suits her and with the right weapon (most swords will be way to heavy for her) and right terrain she could become a difficult opponent even for more skilled people unfamiliar with the style or not used to fight someone more mobile (See the fight of Bronn against the knight of the Vale).
But any real knigh will be a though one. Concerning strength and reach she will probably always be at a disadvantage.

But her biggest strength should be that she will be underestimated and she probably won't find her in a battle (that would not go well).
I would not put her anywhere near the top though.

But we will have to see how she does in an actual fight.

hahah true. but i was saying with a few years training under syrio, arya would have been one of the better swordsman(woman?) in the continent. I mean, Braavos means syrious training.

xD

But i'm fairly confident that syrio lived. as for it not being realistic, he went for their heads. and one of of 4 men was taken down by his comrades sword. i'm fairly certain you get rattled when someone smacks your head really hard with a solid block of wood. even though a small helm. Though the guy who got slashed in the head/throat by his ally probably died.


maybe you are living in fantasy land but that wasn't realistic at all
Question.?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:57:54
May 03 2013 17:55 GMT
#15217
It's not a solid block of wood, it was a pretty light piece of wood and he hit with the end of it, there's not enough weight in it to have any serious momentum I think.
Imagine a boxer his size trying to knock out a a big guy. Now if he's a really good and strong boxer sure. A punch is pretty close range and it has the weight of your whole army behind it. If he had a stick with a big block of wood at the end sure, but it wasn't a bludgeoning weapon (Good for knocking out armoured opponents since the armour doesn't protect your brain from the impact), it was a stabbing weapon which means its light and has no bludgeoning potential.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:58:04
May 03 2013 17:56 GMT
#15218
On May 04 2013 02:55 Slayer91 wrote:
It's not a solid block of wood, it was a pretty light piece of wood and he hit with the end of it, there's not enough weight in it to have any serious momentum I think.

having been knocked unconcious by a block of wood before, it can happen. The unrealistic knockout was the guy who he choked. all the others are plausible.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 17:59:09
May 03 2013 17:58 GMT
#15219
having been hit with a wooden sword before, it cant happen
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
May 03 2013 17:59 GMT
#15220
having fought vs syrio, it can't happen
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