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On May 03 2013 23:16 Dfgj wrote:
That's one hell of a claim.

On May 03 2013 23:55 Slayer91 wrote:
I thought the issue with the guy who fought vs bronn is that much heavy armour isn't a good thing in a fight in open ground, where you can never catch the opponent. In army vs army you have no space to manoevre or run. I thought with light armour and a shield he'd have a huge advantage.

On May 03 2013 23:52 -Archangel- wrote:
Fencing swords are pretty useless against armor. Yes, a real expert might find weak spots against untrained troops and defeat them (but they would defeat them with a wooden sword as well ) but against a trained knight with any decent skill and good armor and a shield (not the kind that idiot used against Bronn in S1) he would die before the would kill the knight.

In our world people only started using fencing swords when armors were no longer used. And armors were not used because of guns that ignored armor and took little skill to use compared to crossbows or bows so any peasant with little to no training could kill heavily armored knights. No guns so far means armor still rules the day and fencing swords are useless

On May 03 2013 23:50 Slayer91 wrote:
I just felt looking at how huge the hound was that the weight advantage would translate in an easy win. It didn't look in the show and I know its only a TV show where weight doesn't matter at all but in real swordfighting would you really be able to parry a blow from someone twice your size?

I guess there might be trouble getting your weight behind a strike I dunno.

On May 03 2013 23:57 PrinceXizor wrote:

I don't think so, years of training under the best swordsman in westeros who was dedicated to her training, in a style specialized for agile fighters in single combat? Combine with arya's natural martial talent (she's far more proficient than bran at a younger age). I have no doubt she could take on the best after years of that training.

Someone said that Needle could kill a man in armor if she wasn't careful. Needle isn't a fencing sword persay its a real weapon.

On May 03 2013 23:57 PrinceXizor wrote:

I don't think so, years of training under the best swordsman in westeros who was dedicated to her training, in a style specialized for agile fighters in single combat? Combine with arya's natural martial talent (she's far more proficient than bran at a younger age). I have no doubt she could take on the best after years of that training.

also don't forget that bronn kept running around the guy and used the pillars to block strikes, and that the guy was young and eager to try to prove himself.


Someone said that Needle could kill a man in armor if she wasn't careful. Needle isn't a fencing sword persay its a real weapon.

On May 04 2013 00:08 Recognizable wrote:
I wonder what will happen about Jaimie's swordfighting skills.

On May 04 2013 00:04 Dfgj wrote:

Fencing swords (at least the epee and sabre) ARE real weapons - the Olympic versions just don't have tips or edges. It doesn't make them great against armored people, though as we've seen Needle will easily puncture a person.

On May 04 2013 00:16 PrinceXizor wrote:

I think my judgement of water dancing and its power is skewed by the game of thrones rpg. but i think a water dancer could beat pretty much any fighter in westeros if given the opportunity. and Arya is naturally very gifted as a fighter we see this right from episode 1 on. when she had been training at swordfighting with a butcher's kid for less than a week she was able to disarm the prince who has had military training for a while. and was much older.

On May 04 2013 00:23 SKC wrote:

Well, but then you are using knowledge that is not in the show and may not even be in the books, it may not be canon. I don't know if the RPG setting is fully approved by Martin, since it's a game you often have to change the balance of power to make things more interesting. The show tells us nothing about water dancing. About Joffrey, it didn't look like he was that good and he probally got caught by surprise. Arya is definatelly better than you would expect from someone that age, but from that to saying she would become the best fighter in westeros is a pretty big stretch.

On May 04 2013 00:27 hzflank wrote:
Sir Meryn Trant was not at all scared of Syrio and he was apparently the best water dancer. No one claims that Meryn is even a great fighter.

On May 04 2013 00:27 hzflank wrote:
Sir Meryn Trant was not at all scared of Syrio and he was apparently the best water dancer. No one claims that Meryn is even a great fighter.

On May 04 2013 00:27 hzflank wrote:
Sir Meryn Trant was not at all scared of Syrio and he was apparently the best water dancer. No one claims that Meryn is even a great fighter.

On May 04 2013 00:16 PrinceXizor wrote:

I think my judgement of water dancing and its power is skewed by the game of thrones rpg. but i think a water dancer could beat pretty much any fighter in westeros if given the opportunity. and Arya is naturally very gifted as a fighter we see this right from episode 1 on. when she had been training at swordfighting with a butcher's kid for less than a week she was able to disarm the prince who has had military training for a while. and was much older.

On May 04 2013 00:38 Dfgj wrote:

She hits him from behind with a stick, gets knocked down and his blade at her throat, then Nymeria bites Joffrey's hand.

On May 04 2013 00:41 PrinceXizor wrote:

effective is effective. shes also a much better archer than bran.

On May 04 2013 00:47 Dfgj wrote:

Hitting someone who isn't looking at you, and then having a Direwolf to sick on them, does not make you a better fighter than someone. It doesn't speak to your fighting ability at all, actually. It certainly doesn't mean you're able to disarm someone. It does show that gargantuan wolves that take children by surprise are quite effective, I guess.

Being better than Bran isn't any sort of real metric either, because for all we know, Bran could be exceptionally bad.