[TV] HBO Game of Thrones - Page 421

On April 23 2012 23:45 Senx wrote:
Only joffrey would turn down the chance to get laid like that, lol.

Also the last scene made little sense to me oO

On April 24 2012 21:51 GhostOwl wrote:


To below average looking whores? He isn't as desperate as you I guess. The thing is, if I was King, I would not settle for anything below a 10.

On April 24 2012 11:13 Gondlem wrote:
Did anyone else feel that the scene with Joffrey and the two prostitutes kinda undermined the point of the previous scene with Sansa? I always thought that was a cool scene before seeing it translated to the show because it gives some context for Joffrey's horrible behaviour. That is, he's a bored, horny teenager with too much power and a desirable but sexually unavailable woman he is allowed to do whatever he wants with... aside from what he actually wants to do with her. So he has the guard beat and strip her in front of everyone. Adding in the scene with the two prostitutes and having them hurt each other just makes him seem like an aimless psychopath though. Removes a lot of the depth from his character.

For me the last episode was quite markedly worse than the previous ones. Until this point the show has managed to tread the line very well between serious/dark and unrealistic/unbelievable, but the Joffrey scene was really unnecessary. Not only was it unpleasant, it made no virtue of its unpleasantness (i.e. we didn't discover anything new about him, but, as you said, his character was made far less interesting by basically being revealed as a total sadist with no redeeming qualities). Jaime is the perfect counterpoise to Joffrey at this point (in terms of how they've developed the characters). The former is a prick but you can see good qualities/he's charismatic, the latter is just a petulant 'evil' child.

Also, I thought the scenes with Arya and the torture camp were equally pointless. Yeah it's a nasty, grim world, we get it, but again, this seem gratuitous without being interesting.

Part of the appeal of the visceral moments in the show is that they happen (relatively) infrequently, whereas in this episode they were a little choc-a-bloc and lost a lot of their power.

It served a purpose. Up until now you might've just thought Joffrey was a spoiled, narcissistic teenage brat, but now you know he is truly sociopathic. There's a blurb about Robert finding him torturing cats at a young age somewhere, I think.

The scene disgusted me but it served and important storytelling purpose to expand upon a character.

On April 24 2012 22:49 Cleomenes wrote:
I think they added the prostitute scene because they couldn't go as far in Sansa's scene. Sansa's actress is too young to go through what really happened in the books.

On April 24 2012 21:45 pred470r wrote:
Why does everybody keep asking what the shadow is in a thread with no book spoilers? I mean if you want to find out, wait until next week or go ask in the spoiler thread, or just read the books, they are better than the series anyway.

On April 24 2012 22:53 zatic wrote:
Here is a great idea: Stop discussing what happened in the book!

On April 24 2012 22:55 c0ldfusion wrote:


Why do people keep saying that the books are better than the series? You can't make a direct comparison between two completely different mediums. What does that even mean?

The only valid comparison you can make would be other TV series that are adapted from a book or book series.
Can you name one that's better than GoT?

Edit: Or better yet, just don't even mention the books in this thread.

On April 24 2012 22:48 HotRocks05 wrote:

There are plenty of other ways to do this without making an extended 5+ minute snuff film. The scene doesn't occur at all in the book, he's just rougher and crueler with Sansa, something that could easily have been portrayed without showing underaged boob using camera angles and shots from the back and all that.