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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On April 24 2012 13:04 grungust wrote: Just got around to watching last nights episode... My god my mother HAD to come in during the ending, that was an awkward conversation. Great episode though! You should introduce your parents into the show too. I am sure they will love it. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On April 24 2012 12:54 mistermetal wrote: They talk about Joffrey in the books some, and how that he always had a violent streak and tortured cats, and when Robert found out about him killing a pregnant cat he beat him unconscious. It was an aside in a chapter and we are well past the point of conversation in the show. That being said, the only problem I have with the show is it much less subtle than the books. For the most part, it's a different audience, and it's certainly a different medium. In a book, you can go back and look at a passage that didn't seem so important. In a show, they can't keep showing flashbacks or nothing would ever move forward. As well, the aidience for a TV show generally isn't going to look into little things as much as someone reading a book would do. I think they're doing a fantastic job, although going back and reading the books (I started book 1 AFTER having watched all of season 1) you certainly appreciate the little details. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On April 24 2012 11:13 Gondlem wrote: Did anyone else feel that the scene with Joffrey and the two prostitutes kinda undermined the point of the previous scene with Sansa? I always thought that was a cool scene before seeing it translated to the show because it gives some context for Joffrey's horrible behaviour. That is, he's a bored, horny teenager with too much power and a desirable but sexually unavailable woman he is allowed to do whatever he wants with... aside from what he actually wants to do with her. So he has the guard beat and strip her in front of everyone. Adding in the scene with the two prostitutes and having them hurt each other just makes him seem like an aimless psychopath though. Removes a lot of the depth from his character. To me it made him seem like a sadist (this has been known for a while) who realized that the man that damaged his pride sent him this "gift." He's bordering on psychopathic with this extreme behavior, but it most definitely is not aimless. He means to insult Tyrion and show him what he thinks of his gift and the way he was treated in court. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On April 24 2012 12:38 Crazyeyes wrote: I wouldn't say that, but its SO GOOD. I just wish it had a higher budget. You can see they're showing the dragons/wolves as little as possible. I guess CGI is expensive. Also, battles... there's no battles. ;( I can live with them as lnog as they dont skip MAJOR battles, but showing so little wolves and dragons is sad. This show, however, is made twice as good after reading the books. I loved season one, but now that I've read all the books, I love season WAY more. So many little details they put in. Although then I guess you end up fretting over all the ltitle details they [i]didn't[i] put in. Hopefully they saved a large part of the budget for the last two episodes (assuming they will be the climax of the season, like season 1). | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On April 24 2012 13:47 p4NDemik wrote: To me it made him seem like a sadist (this has been known for a while) who realized that the man that damaged his pride sent him this "gift." He's bordering on psychopathic with this extreme behavior, but it most definitely is not aimless. He means to insult Tyrion and show him what he thinks of his gift and the way he was treated in court. To me this seems like simply to much negative aspects of Joffrey are shown in the tv version. They made it pretty clear that you're not supposed to like that character in season 1, in season 2 they're adding more and more negative sides of Joffrey, just give the kid some humanity and not make him a solely black character in the mostly greyish coloring of protagonists. | ||
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Choubacca
Taiwan189 Posts
That 3rd episode so so depressing... | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
I have a hard time accepting that someone could be all evil and bad (which is the current picture I have of Joff). | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On April 24 2012 16:28 zodde wrote: I wonder if they will show any likable qualities in Joffrey, kind of like they did with Draco Malfoy in Harry Pottter. Both are annoying blond kids with powerful families, so there are atleast some similarities. I have a hard time accepting that someone could be all evil and bad (which is the current picture I have of Joff). Malfoy was more pitiful than likeable. You could understand that he was more thrusted into his situation rather than him actually wanting to be a part of it. Joffrey is just a prick. Like someone else pointed out earlier, he was raised a certain way, so he turned out a certain way. | ||
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0x64
Finland4602 Posts
Warning is ok for people who quotes those spoilers. This thread really needs to be as the book never existed. Really annoying to see these arguments "Oh this is better in the book" "the tv series is much better". ----------------- The thing about Joff is that they are clearly showing him as a saddist. He loves to see others suffer and others making that suffering at every occasions he gets. What makes it so strong about Joff and this show is that teasing of the viewer "ooh you hated him, how much do you hate him now? OOH Look sansa can push him and kill him... Oh look the whore can very well kill him". One dimensional characters has been let go quiet easily. Ned Stark, Yoren... And yet Joffrey is even more one dimensional and yet stays... I just hope he won't stay for 7 seasons or how many there will be... | ||
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BleaK_
Norway593 Posts
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BlindKill
Australia1508 Posts
It just looks kind of dodgy. Its a real shame they werent handed a blank check to do the book justice. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On April 24 2012 17:58 BlindKill wrote: I'm kind of pissed at the Qarth scene as well as the starting part of the war. Theres so few people, so clean, no dirt in the scenes it doesnt look like an actual battleground. And Daenerys's khalasar was like only 20 people? That I understand since most of them died in the walk but it felt unrealistic that Qarth only has like 12 guardsmen in that scene. It just looks kind of dodgy. Its a real shame they werent handed a blank check to do the book justice. Because that's how you usually do business, hand people blank checks and base your immediate financial future on blind trust. | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
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0x64
Finland4602 Posts
Haha :D I'd buy that game | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 24 2012 17:58 BlindKill wrote: I'm kind of pissed at the Qarth scene as well as the starting part of the war. Theres so few people, so clean, no dirt in the scenes it doesnt look like an actual battleground. And Daenerys's khalasar was like only 20 people? That I understand since most of them died in the walk but it felt unrealistic that Qarth only has like 12 guardsmen in that scene. It just looks kind of dodgy. Its a real shame they werent handed a blank check to do the book justice. As you said, Dany Khalasar was 20 people, most of those old men and women and some children. All of them starved and weak. If they needed more then 12 soldiers to defeat them they are pathetic. | ||
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zimms
Austria561 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On April 24 2012 13:47 p4NDemik wrote: To me it made him seem like a sadist (this has been known for a while) who realized that the man that damaged his pride sent him this "gift." He's bordering on psychopathic with this extreme behavior, but it most definitely is not aimless. He means to insult Tyrion and show him what he thinks of his gift and the way he was treated in court. Quoted for truth, that's exactly what I garnered from the scene, considering he even said that he told the prostitutes to go see Tyrion when they're done torturing each other. | ||
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scarrow
United Kingdom30 Posts
On April 24 2012 18:45 zimms wrote: And if you remember, that's no Khalasar. All the warriors left and the Khalasar was split up between Drogo's "generals". The only people left are old men and women and Dany's bloodriders. Apart from the replacement blood rider for Rakharo , or does the new bloodrider defect from a different Khalasar. So fucking stupid. Also Ian Whyte as the mountain that rides is pathetic, more like the scarecrow that gets blown over in the wind. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 24 2012 19:24 scarrow wrote: Apart from the replacement blood rider for Rakharo , or does the new bloodrider defect from a different Khalasar. So fucking stupid. Also Ian Whyte as the mountain that rides is pathetic, more like the scarecrow that gets blown over in the wind. She has more then one bloodrider. Rakharo was just her favorite. | ||
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eXeCurudas
Netherlands7 Posts
On April 24 2012 12:46 hzflank wrote: Have you never played Baldur's Gate 2? Irenicus > Joffrey. I thought exactly the same. :D | ||
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