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Poland9099 Posts
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VHbb
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Acrofales
Spain17834 Posts
On May 16 2019 21:00 VHbb wrote: I don't know, I didn't see it as symbolizing anything, just a visually nice scene to close the episode I think the main previous example of a white horse on the show is the horse Drogo gifts to Dany. Perhaps this is just a foreshadowing of Arya killing Dany (first she took her horse, then she took her life)? It could also be that the white horse is simply the symbol of death in general (as in the biblical pale horse), which is raining down around them... and Arya as a disciple of the Many-Faced God is there to receive it. Or it could be fucking Shadowfax and Gandalf the White sent it to rescue her. The scene felt out of place, but I didn't actually mind it that much. | ||
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FFGenerations
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/fm5p8Ju.jpg) the horse is literally glowing for fucks sake what's wrong with you | ||
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Bacillus
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Poland9099 Posts
On May 16 2019 21:08 Acrofales wrote: I think the main previous example of a white horse on the show is the horse Drogo gifts to Dany. Perhaps this is just a foreshadowing of Arya killing Dany (first she took her horse, then she took her life)? It could also be that the white horse is simply the symbol of death in general (as in the biblical pale horse), which is raining down around them... and Arya as a disciple of the Many-Faced God is there to receive it. Or it could be fucking Shadowfax and Gandalf the White sent it to rescue her. The scene felt out of place, but I didn't actually mind it that much. Tywin rode a white horse in s2. That horse symbolically pooped on the floor in the throne room. | ||
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Velr
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It's Horse Jesus. | ||
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VHbb
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On May 16 2019 21:13 FFGenerations wrote: its symbolic of the show being a piece of shit that's what it's symbolic of the horse is literally glowing for fucks sake what's wrong with you this is the kind of post that should go in the Letting Off Steam thread.. | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
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FFGenerations
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that makes a whole lot of sense *teleports euron to kill you* | ||
KwarK
United States41962 Posts
On May 16 2019 18:43 FFGenerations wrote: i thought he was going to kill her too, but ultimately there is no greater force than the madness of love We’ll see. Jon is going to have to turn on Dany now so I expect we can go from love making people grey to black and white in one episode. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2534 Posts
On May 16 2019 21:27 Warri wrote: It's a biblical reference. If you google "death rides a pale horse" literally the first like 10 articles are about this scene right now (at least for me). Probably. The writers don't even bother to read the source material anymore and just apply real world logic / customs to the show. For example: 1. Gendry proposing to Arya - proposals don't happen in Westeros, there are only arranged marriages. 2. Tyrion guessing that Brienne is a virgin - she's a noblewoman and is supposed to be a virgin until marriage (also she's known as the maid of Tarth) 3. Laws of succession - apparently at this point the rules are made up and the bloodlines don't matter. Cersei became queen when her son died when in actuality it would be a relative from Robert's family who would get the throne. Jon became "king in the north" when Bran and Rickon should have had that title. Dorne was taken over by the Sand snakes who have absolutely, literally no claim to the throne whatsoever. But now for some reason laws of succession matter in regards to Jon being Rhaegar's son? Can't even stay consistent on that. 4. In fact the show runners don't care to the point where they do not know who holds Riverrun, High Garden, and Storm's End and acknowledge that fact when they try to pawn off these castles to Bronn and Gendry. These are castles that rule over kingdoms the size of Spain. They are second only to the Iron Throne (which at this point has no real power - let's face it). They are just talking about these things like they're upscale apartments or something. These are giant government offices. You're really just going to give it away like that? | ||
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KwarK
United States41962 Posts
On May 16 2019 21:58 Hyperbola wrote: Probably. The writers don't even bother to read the source material anymore and just apply real world logic / customs to the show. For example: 1. Gendry proposing to Arya - proposals don't happen in Westeros, there are only arranged marriages. Gendry is a commoner, it’s entirely reasonable that he would marry for love. That’s probably the only kind of marriage he knows. Very few of his peers growing up would be marrying to secure feudal alliances. | ||
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Dav1oN
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On May 16 2019 21:58 Hyperbola wrote: Probably. The writers don't even bother to read the source material anymore and just apply real world logic / customs to the show. For example: 1. Gendry proposing to Arya - proposals don't happen in Westeros, there are only arranged marriages. 2. Tyrion guessing that Brienne is a virgin - she's a noblewoman and is supposed to be a virgin until marriage (also she's known as the maid of Tarth) 3. Laws of succession - apparently at this point the rules are made up and the bloodlines don't matter. Cersei became queen when her son died when in actuality it would be a relative from Robert's family who would get the throne. Jon became "king in the north" when Bran and Rickon should have had that title. Dorne was taken over by the Sand snakes who have absolutely, literally no claim to the throne whatsoever. But now for some reason laws of succession matter in regards to Jon being Rhaegar's son? Can't even stay consistent on that. 4. In fact the show runners don't care to the point where they do not know who holds Riverrun, High Garden, and Storm's End and acknowledge that fact when they try to pawn off these castles to Bronn and Gendry. These are castles that rule over kingdoms the size of Spain. They are second only to the Iron Throne (which at this point has no real power - let's face it). They are just talking about these things like they're upscale apartments or something. These are giant government offices. You're really just going to give it away like that? I would agree on #4 but i'd give the show runners the benefit of the doubt on that one. Lets face it, i'd probably promise Bronn the Iron Throne before he kills me with that crossbow. And with Gendry legitimized, isnt he the rightful heir to the Stormlands? So while it might seem like they just give them away like candy, behind the scenes i highly doubt Bronn gets Highgarden. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5775 Posts
On May 16 2019 21:58 Hyperbola wrote: Probably. The writers don't even bother to read the source material anymore and just apply real world logic / customs to the show. For example: 1. Gendry proposing to Arya - proposals don't happen in Westeros, there are only arranged marriages. 2. Tyrion guessing that Brienne is a virgin - she's a noblewoman and is supposed to be a virgin until marriage (also she's known as the maid of Tarth) 3. Laws of succession - apparently at this point the rules are made up and the bloodlines don't matter. Cersei became queen when her son died when in actuality it would be a relative from Robert's family who would get the throne. Jon became "king in the north" when Bran and Rickon should have had that title. Dorne was taken over by the Sand snakes who have absolutely, literally no claim to the throne whatsoever. But now for some reason laws of succession matter in regards to Jon being Rhaegar's son? Can't even stay consistent on that. 4. In fact the show runners don't care to the point where they do not know who holds Riverrun, High Garden, and Storm's End and acknowledge that fact when they try to pawn off these castles to Bronn and Gendry. These are castles that rule over kingdoms the size of Spain. They are second only to the Iron Throne (which at this point has no real power - let's face it). They are just talking about these things like they're upscale apartments or something. These are giant government offices. You're really just going to give it away like that? I agree with most of what you said, but not for Jon getting the throne in the north. The king of the north thing wasn't really Rob's crown getting passed along, it was more like a second declaration of independence, so succession didn't really matter. That said, Sansa is the one who should have been declared queen of the north, given that she was responsible for the victory in the battle of the bastards (her political alliance brought in the cavalry), she was the oldest heir to the Stark house (Bran was missing irc), while Jon was a bastard, had been single handedly responsible for losing the battle (prior to the cavalry) and broke his oath with the Night's Watch (who's gonna believe when he claims "oh, technically I didn't break my vows because I died and came back from the dead"?). You can argue that the north is sexist (as one might expect from a medieval setting), but that angle wasn't really pushed (and even if this is the explanation, Lyanna Mormont could have backed Sansa). | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17834 Posts
On May 16 2019 21:58 Hyperbola wrote: Probably. The writers don't even bother to read the source material anymore and just apply real world logic / customs to the show. For example: 1. Gendry proposing to Arya - proposals don't happen in Westeros, there are only arranged marriages. Demonstrably false. L+R for starters. 2. Tyrion guessing that Brienne is a virgin - she's a noblewoman and is supposed to be a virgin until marriage (also she's known as the maid of Tarth) Really. So what. Clearly a derogatory name, and yes. She is supposed to be a virgin until marriage. So is Arya, wink wink nudge nudge. 3. Laws of succession - apparently at this point the rules are made up and the bloodlines don't matter. Cersei became queen when her son died when in actuality it would be a relative from Robert's family who would get the throne. Jon became "king in the north" when Bran and Rickon should have had that title. Dorne was taken over by the Sand snakes who have absolutely, literally no claim to the throne whatsoever. But now for some reason laws of succession matter in regards to Jon being Rhaegar's son? Can't even stay consistent on that. The Baratheons were wiped out, root and stem. Also, yes, one of the points being made is that the "rules of succession" are really only a guidebook that serve you until someone stronger comes along and has the balls to clobber you over the head. Jon being king in the north was logical as he was the only male heir of Ned Stark alive at the time. The reason Jon is a threat is because as a Stark, the south would never accept him on the throne. But as a Tagaryen they would. He has the north behind him as a Stark, and the south as a Tagaryen. So as long as there are people willing to support him, he can be a threat. As long as it was *just* the north, it was okay as long as he bent the knee. But as long as there are rumbles all over the country that "Jon is the legitimate king", Dany can indeed never rule in comfort until Jon is gone. Of course, that wouldn't have mattered if she had been the just and wise ruler she set out to be, but she had to go full Mad Queen, so now of course there will be people supporting Jon. 4. In fact the show runners don't care to the point where they do not know who holds Riverrun, High Garden, and Storm's End and acknowledge that fact when they try to pawn off these castles to Bronn and Gendry. These are castles that rule over kingdoms the size of Spain. They are second only to the Iron Throne (which at this point has no real power - let's face it). They are just talking about these things like they're upscale apartments or something. These are giant government offices. You're really just going to give it away like that? Actually, given the size of Westeros these are kingdoms the size of Peru. But yes, it is a bit absurd the showrunners have completely ignored Riverrun (and Highgarden). Storm's End is legitimately without an heir tho. I don't think there is a single Baratheon left alive in the show. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6696 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2534 Posts
On May 16 2019 22:56 Acrofales wrote: Demonstrably false. L+R for starters. Really. So what. Clearly a derogatory name, and yes. She is supposed to be a virgin until marriage. So is Arya, wink wink nudge nudge. The Baratheons were wiped out, root and stem. Also, yes, one of the points being made is that the "rules of succession" are really only a guidebook that serve you until someone stronger comes along and has the balls to clobber you over the head. Jon being king in the north was logical as he was the only male heir of Ned Stark alive at the time. The reason Jon is a threat is because as a Stark, the south would never accept him on the throne. But as a Tagaryen they would. He has the north behind him as a Stark, and the south as a Tagaryen. So as long as there are people willing to support him, he can be a threat. As long as it was *just* the north, it was okay as long as he bent the knee. But as long as there are rumbles all over the country that "Jon is the legitimate king", Dany can indeed never rule in comfort until Jon is gone. Of course, that wouldn't have mattered if she had been the just and wise ruler she set out to be, but she had to go full Mad Queen, so now of course there will be people supporting Jon. Actually, given the size of Westeros these are kingdoms the size of Peru. But yes, it is a bit absurd the showrunners have completely ignored Riverrun (and Highgarden). Storm's End is legitimately without an heir tho. I don't think there is a single Baratheon left alive in the show. 1. What part of Rhaegar's """""""proposal"""""""" to Lyanna had him getting on one knee and asking her for marriage? As I recall he just threw her the winter rose crown and then kidnapped her (which is actually a wildling custom but I guess he had to improvise). If Rhaegar did things legitimately like say, having the High Septon annul his existing marriage and then demanding the Warden of the North for her as his bride then the rebellion would not have happened. This is how it's done in Westeros. Not getting on one knee and telling a girl to become your lady. That's straight out of real life. Just like that starbucks cup someone left on the table. 2. Did you miss the point? The never have I ever drinking game (which is also taken from real life) is meant to be a guessing game. Brienne should, by all accounts, be a virgin if she's an unmarried noblewoman. Her not being one is the exception. Tyrion's "guess" would be like saying "you, Brienne, are from Tarth". No shit. Brienne shouldn't be upset by that and leave because of it. It should be obvious. 3. You do realize that the Baratheon brothers aren't the only Baratheons? Family trees go back all the way to the beggining of time. Even if all the B-Brothers died, eventually you go far back enough to find a MALE relative that takes the throne. This is how it's legally done in Westeros. This is why John supposedly has a claim to the throne even though it doesn't appear to be an issue for any other kingdom besides the crownlands. Even Olenna Tyrell should not have been the reigning ruler of Highgarden when her direct family died. It would, again, go to a MALE distant relative. 4. See above. Family lines go way back. Even if there is no "Baratheon" left, there will be a male relative or a son of a male relative back somewhere in the mix. | ||
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