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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 28 2019 13:58 GMT
#34581
Originally I thought the Night King would be defeated in ep 4 via Bran weird shit (he has to do something besides creep people out...), but now I actually think it might go beyond the North for one overlooked reason: Melisandre hasn't played her hand yet and is nowhere in sight thus far. By her own words she's fated to die in Westeros and I can't imagine she comes back for any reason other than the Night King. Unless she's already hiding in the North, this is going to stretch further than Winterfell for her to come back into the picture.
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frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
April 28 2019 14:18 GMT
#34582
I'm wondering where is Edmure Tully and the Tully army that Jaimy negotiated to be allowed to live? Why all this Tully story and just completely ignore them in the endgame.

Do you think they'll play a part in the endgame for the Throne?
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 28 2019 15:17 GMT
#34583
On April 28 2019 23:18 frontliner2 wrote:
I'm wondering where is Edmure Tully and the Tully army that Jaimy negotiated to be allowed to live? Why all this Tully story and just completely ignore them in the endgame.

Do you think they'll play a part in the endgame for the Throne?

Nah they cut all of these other houses and regions to focus on something fairly straightforward now.
All there is left and important are the people at winterfell and kingslanding
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 28 2019 15:39 GMT
#34584
On April 28 2019 22:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Originally I thought the Night King would be defeated in ep 4 via Bran weird shit (he has to do something besides creep people out...), but now I actually think it might go beyond the North for one overlooked reason: Melisandre hasn't played her hand yet and is nowhere in sight thus far. By her own words she's fated to die in Westeros and I can't imagine she comes back for any reason other than the Night King. Unless she's already hiding in the North, this is going to stretch further than Winterfell for her to come back into the picture.


maybe she shows up in E03, and in the aftermath this causes further rift between Jon & Dany. Melisandre might sacrifice herself but if she brings followers of the Lord of Light and they're instrumental in aiding the living, and at least some of them are still around afterward, I can see this causing a lot of drama later.

why?

Melisandre mentioned that Varys will die in Westeros just like she will. Varys's death was already kinda foreshadowed; we can expect that he'll say or do something to Daenerys that will make her execute him. Given his history, I think it's safe to say that Varys hates magic. If the evangelicals of the Lord of Light become an integral part of Dany's support, I see it likely that Varys turns on Dany and chooses to support Jon instead. He'll definitely at least have the support of Davos, but Dany will still roast Varys alive.

ironically though if he switches to support Jon, he'd be supporting someone who was resurrected by Melisandre..guess no matter what he does, Varys can't escape magic
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
April 28 2019 16:26 GMT
#34585
Maybe Melisandre will raise all the fallen warriors of winterfell before the nightking does. Sorry couldnt resist.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-28 19:16:25
April 28 2019 19:15 GMT
#34586
On April 29 2019 01:26 TaKeTV wrote:
Maybe Melisandre will raise all the fallen warriors of winterfell before the nightking does. Sorry couldnt resist.


Ned Stark will be resurect take his head in his hand, put it back on his neck and then go kill the nightking, he then will behead Cerey and take the throne (literraly) back to Winterfell and rule with Catlin (who's also resurected)
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
April 28 2019 20:04 GMT
#34587
Has anyone seen the pics online and the theory that Bran IS the Night King? Sorry if it's already been mentioned, but I found it interesting.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/4/26/18515988/bran-is-the-night-king-theory-reverse-spell-battle-of-winterfell

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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 28 2019 20:32 GMT
#34588
It has been discussed. I don't think it's right
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 28 2019 21:38 GMT
#34589
The actor and others cast member straight up say he's not the night king and there never was a conscious effort to foreshadow it.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28092 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-28 21:47:53
April 28 2019 21:45 GMT
#34590
Yea I mean we already know he isn't "physically" the Night King because Bran witnessed the moment the Children created him in a flashback (and the guy was clearly not Bran lol), so that picture doesn't really make any sense right from the start.

The theory is more about people thinking he's somehow gone thousands of years into the past and warged into the Night King, and not that he's actually him. Maybe there's more theories around it though, but that's the one I heard (which I think sucks and I hope the writers don't go that route).

edit: I could see the Night King being one of the original Starks though.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 28 2019 21:56 GMT
#34591
As i said before, there still has to be some real payoff to bran being able to go back in time and affect things (well at least from his current perspective, whatever happened happened ofc).
I don't necessarily think that it is the nightking theory, but it definitely would be a big payoff there. Imo this only started because the actors have a similar nose though :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17420 Posts
April 29 2019 00:26 GMT
#34592
I wonder if NK will raise the Starks buried in the crypt. This could potentially be a thing since the crypt plays quite an important role and it was mentioned that Starks bury their dead instead of burning them like everyone else.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-29 04:09:18
April 29 2019 01:19 GMT
#34593
+ Show Spoiler +
Sending in their cavalry first with no support. Oh boy, is this going to get picked apart by the medieval warfare fans.

So far I'm sure this is not very good military strategy against an army of the dead, but even I have to admit in terms of atmosphere and scale it's hell of an impressive work.

To my utter shock, the crypts are actually not secure!

Was there any reason why Dany didn't just fly off?

Arya gets it wow. I have to admit it's a bit cheap, but it fits better with her assassin background I suppose. At the same time, it does annoy me how quick it ended. So I guess the Azor Azai prophecy didn't mean whoever kills the Night King.
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-29 02:19:31
April 29 2019 02:19 GMT
#34594
+ Show Spoiler +
Night's King gets sneak attacked by Arya when he has all the other White Walkers and a bunch of undead around the area? I expected nothing and still I'm let down
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TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
April 29 2019 02:22 GMT
#34595
+ Show Spoiler +
Well besides the fucking "end" for now it was a pretty fantastic episode but this kind of leaves me with a BIG questionmark - what the fuck? So a force thats thousand of years old and build up from the very beginning is beaten in an episode?

I was all onboard losing the battle and I could have seen Dany or Jon die both believable. The Nightking didnt even sweat being burned by Dragonfire AND then Arya sneaks up and kills him? They cant just sell me on that?!

Also - besides the confirmed dead we saw - who really died? This is a real big letdown..
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 29 2019 02:25 GMT
#34596
On April 29 2019 11:22 TaKeTV wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Well besides the fucking "end" for now it was a pretty fantastic episode but this kind of leaves me with a BIG questionmark - what the fuck? So a force thats thousand of years old and build up from the very beginning is beaten in an episode?

I was all onboard losing the battle and I could have seen Dany or Jon die both believable. The Nightking didnt even sweat being burned by Dragonfire AND then Arya sneaks up and kills him? They cant just sell me on that?!

Also - besides the confirmed dead we saw - who really died? This is a real big letdown..


100% agreed
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-29 02:31:12
April 29 2019 02:27 GMT
#34597
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What a mess of an episode. That C-Rate slapstick scene in the library with Arya..Where is she? shes under the table? WRONG. Also i was expecting a different ending for melisande when she said she wont survive. Why did she just suicide for no reason as if she lost her faith, just moments after the lord of light granting her to make fire twice. And i bet this wont get picked up at all in the next episode. I dont even know if i can say its a great episode overall, so many blunders...
Edit: And what the fuck was the point of the whole bran storyline. He didnt fucking do shit. The whole time i was waiting for something to happen. Him warging into the undead dragon or him warging into nightking and suiciding. Literally anything would have been nice.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
April 29 2019 02:27 GMT
#34598
+ Show Spoiler +

I mean the NK we saw was arrogance personified and felt untouchable so I guess it makes sense that he would die that way and in its own very its very Game of Thrones but damn. I still want to know how Dany thinks she has enough people to beat Cersei when from what I saw all her Dothraki and most of her Unsullied and her Ironborne are kinda well gone.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
April 29 2019 02:28 GMT
#34599
On April 29 2019 11:27 Warri wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
What a mess of an episode. That C-Rate slapstick scene in the library with Arya..Where is she? shes under the table? WRONG. Also i was expecting a different ending for melisande when she said she wont survive. Why did she just suicide for no reason as if she lost her faith, just moments after the lord of light granting her to make fire twice. And i bet this wont get picked up at all in the next episode. I dont even know if i can say its a great episode overall, so many blunders...

+ Show Spoiler +
In regards to Melisandre, I guess I thought it was a she had completed her task so now she was done with this life type of thing
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1199 Posts
April 29 2019 02:30 GMT
#34600
On April 29 2019 11:27 Adreme wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

I mean the NK we saw was arrogance personified and felt untouchable so I guess it makes sense that he would die that way and in its own very its very Game of Thrones but damn. I still want to know how Dany thinks she has enough people to beat Cersei when from what I saw all her Dothraki and most of her Unsullied and her Ironborne are kinda well gone.


+ Show Spoiler +
Ok let me tell you since the writing apparently goes this direction now. Remains of the army + dragon will attack Kings Landing. Will more or less shatter morale of the golden army from essos. Dragon gets oneshot by the ballista, Dany dies. Army still wins - Cersei begs her brother for mercy. Jamie kills her.

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