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cucumber
Profile Joined June 2010
United States116 Posts
November 27 2010 07:03 GMT
#321
I want to see this show.

GRRM, however, annoys me. If he were young and not a fatass, I'd be cool. But I would prefer if the old overweight GRRM could finish his damn series before he buys the farm. He's writing great fantasy but it's no like he's writing mind-bendingly great literature. Finish the fucking books already.
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
November 27 2010 07:19 GMT
#322
On November 27 2010 13:26 Krigwin wrote:
Okay, in the bottom 4 photos, in the second one from the left, that's Tyrion at the left, and from the moon-and-falcon shields I'm guessing this is the scene where Catelyn brings Tyrion to Lysa.

So, is that Catelyn next to Tyrion and Bronn behind them?

Ya it's Catelyn Tyrion and Bronn at the Eyrie :o
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
November 27 2010 07:24 GMT
#323
On the pic where Robert walks through the yard I really like the way they made the wolf head on the Winterfell's guards shields
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
November 27 2010 10:48 GMT
#324
On November 27 2010 16:03 cucumber wrote:
I want to see this show.

GRRM, however, annoys me. If he were young and not a fatass, I'd be cool. But I would prefer if the old overweight GRRM could finish his damn series before he buys the farm. He's writing great fantasy but it's no like he's writing mind-bendingly great literature. Finish the fucking books already.


I think it's good that he takes his time to finish the books and doesnt churn out mediocre stuff every year. But I am kind of scared that, at this pace, he will die before finishing the books
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 02:47:19
November 28 2010 02:44 GMT
#325
a very short preview of what's coming next sunday (dec 5th)..a 15 minute inside look into game of thrones

http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=grid&vid=1145142&autoplay=true
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
November 28 2010 03:47 GMT
#326
On November 27 2010 19:48 Blobskillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 16:03 cucumber wrote:
I want to see this show.

GRRM, however, annoys me. If he were young and not a fatass, I'd be cool. But I would prefer if the old overweight GRRM could finish his damn series before he buys the farm. He's writing great fantasy but it's no like he's writing mind-bendingly great literature. Finish the fucking books already.


I think it's good that he takes his time to finish the books and doesnt churn out mediocre stuff every year. But I am kind of scared that, at this pace, he will die before finishing the books


That's not why the books are delayed. I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with GRRM's fear of churning out mediocre stuff.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
November 28 2010 03:53 GMT
#327
On November 27 2010 13:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
yeah its arya in that photo. they aged all the characters up, which makes sense because nobody wants to see these horrible things done to a 12yo or whatever, it makes sense since this show is going to be relatively mainstream and the US is quite squeamish about underage stuff

i'd say sansa looks about 16ish in that pic, which is fine because i didn't really picture her as a 13yo or whatever when reading the books, as 12-13 in martin's universe (medieval times sort of) is essentially 17-18 now.


That's disappointing. HBO used to be the channel that wasn't scared to make audiences flinch (ie. Oz). And one of SoI&F's defining characteristics was its ubiquitous use of rape, incest, and over the top blood baths. What's the point if they're going to water down the very things that make HBO and SoI&F interesting? I remember reading SoI&F for the first time and finding it highly amusing the way Daenerys and her brother got on, the fact she was a little girl getting humped by Drogo, and that rape was occurring all around her nearly 24/7. Not that I seek out those types of things, but GRRM had a charming way of depicting it without me actually caring about the victims. Probably because he kept them faceless victims and casual usage made me desensitized. Hmm...
Rejuvenation
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada128 Posts
November 28 2010 04:01 GMT
#328
Looks epic. Looking foward for another great HBO serie after Broadwalk empire and pillars of the earth. Sad we don't have much details though.
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
November 28 2010 04:13 GMT
#329
On November 28 2010 12:53 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 13:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
yeah its arya in that photo. they aged all the characters up, which makes sense because nobody wants to see these horrible things done to a 12yo or whatever, it makes sense since this show is going to be relatively mainstream and the US is quite squeamish about underage stuff

i'd say sansa looks about 16ish in that pic, which is fine because i didn't really picture her as a 13yo or whatever when reading the books, as 12-13 in martin's universe (medieval times sort of) is essentially 17-18 now.


That's disappointing. HBO used to be the channel that wasn't scared to make audiences flinch (ie. Oz). And one of SoI&F's defining characteristics was its ubiquitous use of rape, incest, and over the top blood baths. What's the point if they're going to water down the very things that make HBO and SoI&F interesting? I remember reading SoI&F for the first time and finding it highly amusing the way Daenerys and her brother got on, the fact she was a little girl getting humped by Drogo, and that rape was occurring all around her nearly 24/7. Not that I seek out those types of things, but GRRM had a charming way of depicting it without me actually caring about the victims. Probably because he kept them faceless victims and casual usage made me desensitized. Hmm...

Sorry, I don't think the world is ready for child rape on TV. The Daenerys/Drogo scenes just are a little too hardcore for television.

Interestingly enough though, they'll probably show all the scenes where Arya kills someone in full detail, which I find much more disturbing than the rapes. That's a pretty interesting commentary on society there if it does happen.
eNbee
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium487 Posts
November 28 2010 04:35 GMT
#330
Thanks to this thread for making me start reading the series <3<3<3
hmmmm
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
November 28 2010 23:27 GMT
#331
On November 28 2010 13:35 eNbee wrote:
Thanks to this thread for making me start reading the series <3<3<3


Lol wait for ADWD to come out, then start reading! You'll thank me later! T_T I been waiting YEARS for that damn thing to come out.
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 23:33:35
November 28 2010 23:32 GMT
#332
On November 28 2010 13:13 Krigwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 12:53 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 27 2010 13:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
yeah its arya in that photo. they aged all the characters up, which makes sense because nobody wants to see these horrible things done to a 12yo or whatever, it makes sense since this show is going to be relatively mainstream and the US is quite squeamish about underage stuff

i'd say sansa looks about 16ish in that pic, which is fine because i didn't really picture her as a 13yo or whatever when reading the books, as 12-13 in martin's universe (medieval times sort of) is essentially 17-18 now.


That's disappointing. HBO used to be the channel that wasn't scared to make audiences flinch (ie. Oz). And one of SoI&F's defining characteristics was its ubiquitous use of rape, incest, and over the top blood baths. What's the point if they're going to water down the very things that make HBO and SoI&F interesting? I remember reading SoI&F for the first time and finding it highly amusing the way Daenerys and her brother got on, the fact she was a little girl getting humped by Drogo, and that rape was occurring all around her nearly 24/7. Not that I seek out those types of things, but GRRM had a charming way of depicting it without me actually caring about the victims. Probably because he kept them faceless victims and casual usage made me desensitized. Hmm...

Sorry, I don't think the world is ready for child rape on TV. The Daenerys/Drogo scenes just are a little too hardcore for television.

Interestingly enough though, they'll probably show all the scenes where Arya kills someone in full detail, which I find much more disturbing than the rapes. That's a pretty interesting commentary on society there if it does happen.


well maybe it was watered down in the german translation i read, bu it didnt really sound like rape to me with Drogo and Daenerys
yeah well she might have been a bit young but as far as i remember he didnt really force her to anything?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 28 2010 23:35 GMT
#333
Yeah theres plenty of rape in the series but none of it is really "on screen" (as in in the POVs), its almost always told through stories or second hand. From what I read, the Dany/Drogo scenes were consensual.
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 23:38:58
November 28 2010 23:38 GMT
#334
On November 29 2010 08:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
Yeah theres plenty of rape in the series but none of it is really "on screen" (as in in the POVs), its almost always told through stories or second hand. From what I read, the Dany/Drogo scenes were consensual.


There were those scenes after Drogo died though, where Daenerys was walking through the aftermath of battle and there was some woman being gang raped and then killed. Most of the time the rape seems to happen to bit characters, almost as if its part of the scenery. That's probably why the emotional reaction is muted. GRRM's world is decidedly grim though, much more so than typical fantasy, and I'd daresay borders on hyperbole compared to the actual medieval world, even as chaotic and brutal as it was. All in all, sounds like a match made in heaven for HBO and SoI&F. I'm sour as shit about how long ADWD has taken to come out, but this TV series should be great as long as it sticks to the heart of SoI&F and doesn't get too campy.
alpskomleko
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Slovenia950 Posts
November 29 2010 00:50 GMT
#335
In related news: HBO's filming in Malta destroys an ecosystem (or so they claim) - Times of Malta link
players do games, press mens do their things. and fans do make good cheers.
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
November 29 2010 00:54 GMT
#336
On November 29 2010 08:32 Blobskillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 13:13 Krigwin wrote:
On November 28 2010 12:53 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 27 2010 13:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
yeah its arya in that photo. they aged all the characters up, which makes sense because nobody wants to see these horrible things done to a 12yo or whatever, it makes sense since this show is going to be relatively mainstream and the US is quite squeamish about underage stuff

i'd say sansa looks about 16ish in that pic, which is fine because i didn't really picture her as a 13yo or whatever when reading the books, as 12-13 in martin's universe (medieval times sort of) is essentially 17-18 now.


That's disappointing. HBO used to be the channel that wasn't scared to make audiences flinch (ie. Oz). And one of SoI&F's defining characteristics was its ubiquitous use of rape, incest, and over the top blood baths. What's the point if they're going to water down the very things that make HBO and SoI&F interesting? I remember reading SoI&F for the first time and finding it highly amusing the way Daenerys and her brother got on, the fact she was a little girl getting humped by Drogo, and that rape was occurring all around her nearly 24/7. Not that I seek out those types of things, but GRRM had a charming way of depicting it without me actually caring about the victims. Probably because he kept them faceless victims and casual usage made me desensitized. Hmm...

Sorry, I don't think the world is ready for child rape on TV. The Daenerys/Drogo scenes just are a little too hardcore for television.

Interestingly enough though, they'll probably show all the scenes where Arya kills someone in full detail, which I find much more disturbing than the rapes. That's a pretty interesting commentary on society there if it does happen.


well maybe it was watered down in the german translation i read, bu it didnt really sound like rape to me with Drogo and Daenerys
yeah well she might have been a bit young but as far as i remember he didnt really force her to anything?

It's been a while and my memory of AGoT isn't that good, but I seem to recall that she was in severe pain during the nightly sex and was crying and so forth into the pillows. Plus the concept of consent becomes a little blurred when you're talking about an arranged marriage between a 13 (12? 14? how old was she when she got married?) year old girl with a very childish view of marriage and a 20? 25? 30? year old incredibly influential and physically intimidating man. He didn't "force" her per se or at least the book didn't say that he did, but how exactly was she going to refuse?

Basically, it might or might not have been rape in that context, especially when so many other more brutal rapes were occurring, but by today's standards it would definitely be called rape.
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
November 29 2010 00:54 GMT
#337
On November 29 2010 09:50 alpskomleko wrote:
In related news: HBO's filming in Malta destroys an ecosystem (or so they claim) - Times of Malta link


stupid hippies
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
November 29 2010 01:46 GMT
#338
On November 29 2010 09:54 Krigwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 08:32 Blobskillz wrote:
On November 28 2010 13:13 Krigwin wrote:
On November 28 2010 12:53 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 27 2010 13:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
yeah its arya in that photo. they aged all the characters up, which makes sense because nobody wants to see these horrible things done to a 12yo or whatever, it makes sense since this show is going to be relatively mainstream and the US is quite squeamish about underage stuff

i'd say sansa looks about 16ish in that pic, which is fine because i didn't really picture her as a 13yo or whatever when reading the books, as 12-13 in martin's universe (medieval times sort of) is essentially 17-18 now.


That's disappointing. HBO used to be the channel that wasn't scared to make audiences flinch (ie. Oz). And one of SoI&F's defining characteristics was its ubiquitous use of rape, incest, and over the top blood baths. What's the point if they're going to water down the very things that make HBO and SoI&F interesting? I remember reading SoI&F for the first time and finding it highly amusing the way Daenerys and her brother got on, the fact she was a little girl getting humped by Drogo, and that rape was occurring all around her nearly 24/7. Not that I seek out those types of things, but GRRM had a charming way of depicting it without me actually caring about the victims. Probably because he kept them faceless victims and casual usage made me desensitized. Hmm...

Sorry, I don't think the world is ready for child rape on TV. The Daenerys/Drogo scenes just are a little too hardcore for television.

Interestingly enough though, they'll probably show all the scenes where Arya kills someone in full detail, which I find much more disturbing than the rapes. That's a pretty interesting commentary on society there if it does happen.


well maybe it was watered down in the german translation i read, bu it didnt really sound like rape to me with Drogo and Daenerys
yeah well she might have been a bit young but as far as i remember he didnt really force her to anything?

It's been a while and my memory of AGoT isn't that good, but I seem to recall that she was in severe pain during the nightly sex and was crying and so forth into the pillows. Plus the concept of consent becomes a little blurred when you're talking about an arranged marriage between a 13 (12? 14? how old was she when she got married?) year old girl with a very childish view of marriage and a 20? 25? 30? year old incredibly influential and physically intimidating man. He didn't "force" her per se or at least the book didn't say that he did, but how exactly was she going to refuse?

Basically, it might or might not have been rape in that context, especially when so many other more brutal rapes were occurring, but by today's standards it would definitely be called rape.


GRRM did say Drogo was skilled with his hands and quite loving though. Sounds rather romantic to me . He probably had a similar body to Nada's too, what with all the horse riding and fighting! If you were a 12-13 year old girl would you turn down Nada's body?
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
November 29 2010 02:19 GMT
#339
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2010/11/28/clip-preview.html

Clip preview, really nice, can't wait ><
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 29 2010 02:19 GMT
#340
OMFG@!!!!1
http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=grid&vid=1145144&autoplay=true
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