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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
June 20 2016 07:46 GMT
#30901
The battle scene was above and beyond my expectations. Fucking amazing.
Skol
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 20 2016 07:52 GMT
#30902
I liked it better than Hardhome, people vs people > people vs fantasy creatures for me. Also noticed that its pretty weird that no one scouted that huge Vale Knights marching north. As far as the battle goes, I don't blame Jon for charging , they are the attacking force so they needed to attack anyway, they have inferior number and utility (archers, long spears). There is in no way they can lure the Bolton army to charge first either .
AKMU / IU
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
June 20 2016 08:01 GMT
#30903
As far as the battle goes, I don't blame Jon for charging , they are the attacking force so they needed to attack anyway, they have inferior number and utility (archers, long spears). There is in no way they can lure the Bolton army to charge first either .


Well except that Ramsay charged into Stannis.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 20 2016 08:20 GMT
#30904
This episode was 11/10, wow that cinematography man
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 20 2016 08:36 GMT
#30905
On June 20 2016 17:01 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
As far as the battle goes, I don't blame Jon for charging , they are the attacking force so they needed to attack anyway, they have inferior number and utility (archers, long spears). There is in no way they can lure the Bolton army to charge first either .


Well except that Ramsay charged into Stannis.


because they outnumber them largely and they know Stannis army can barely walk Stannis has like 200-300 men, Jon had at least 2000+
AKMU / IU
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-20 08:45:59
June 20 2016 08:45 GMT
#30906
On June 20 2016 17:36 shin_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2016 17:01 Hider wrote:
As far as the battle goes, I don't blame Jon for charging , they are the attacking force so they needed to attack anyway, they have inferior number and utility (archers, long spears). There is in no way they can lure the Bolton army to charge first either .


Well except that Ramsay charged into Stannis.


because they outnumber them largely and they know Stannis army can barely walk Stannis has like 200-300 men, Jon had at least 2000+


No Stannis lost like half his army. He had 2-3K as well.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 20 2016 09:00 GMT
#30907
[image loading]

Bolton outnumbered Stannis like this, not even half of his first column,Plus he knows 80%of Stannis has red hp bar.
While' Jon's, even tho outnumbered too, they are at least battle-ready and somewhat organized. Ramsey based on his character, wouldn't risk midlessly charging to that
AKMU / IU
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 20 2016 09:38 GMT
#30908
Did anyone notice the plothole?

Sansa stormed off, and once she wasn't there, Ramsay said that he didn't feed his dogs in 7 days.

Then, when she was feeding him to the hounds, she said "They were, but they haven't been in seven days, you said so yourself".
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zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
June 20 2016 09:41 GMT
#30909
I found this interview with this episode director and found it really interesting http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/19/game-thrones-battle-director

Seem like there is some huge difficultys to make such scenes
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
June 20 2016 09:51 GMT
#30910
On June 20 2016 18:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Did anyone notice the plothole?

Sansa stormed off, and once she wasn't there, Ramsay said that he didn't feed his dogs in 7 days.

Then, when she was feeding him to the hounds, she said "They were, but they haven't been in seven days, you said so yourself".


Might do a second re watch!
AKMU / IU
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4572 Posts
June 20 2016 10:02 GMT
#30911
On June 20 2016 18:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Did anyone notice the plothole?

Sansa stormed off, and once she wasn't there, Ramsay said that he didn't feed his dogs in 7 days.

Then, when she was feeding him to the hounds, she said "They were, but they haven't been in seven days, you said so yourself".



The "They were" part was in response to Ramsay saying that his hounds were loyal and will never hurt him.
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-20 10:32:22
June 20 2016 10:29 GMT
#30912
On June 20 2016 18:41 zeross wrote:
I found this interview with this episode director and found it really interesting http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/19/game-thrones-battle-director

Seem like there is some huge difficultys to make such scenes

For a TV show, that must've been some endeavor.

To think that the scene where Jon is struggling to just breathe came out of just not being able to shoot. Really hammered the idea that the battle was pretty much lost home.

I think the dragon's spent a little bit long torching the one ship. Kinda overkilled it by a ton, but I guess you aren't trying to burn the fleet, only convince everybody to surrender.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
June 20 2016 10:34 GMT
#30913
good episode, some great scenes in the battle. Really love how they filmed Jon in the middle of the cavalries (even if he somehow avoided all arrows)
but some many stupid stuff too... the pile of corpses (that was actually so bad), the terrible strategy, and the wildlings army surrounded in such a small area.. it looked so weird

I hope Sansa won't act as a bitch with Jon. How she looked at the army when she arrived with Littlefinger and the fact that she never told Jon that the Vale could help, I really hated her at that moment and wished for a lost arrow.
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Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-20 11:08:24
June 20 2016 11:07 GMT
#30914
So, what actually happened to Ghost(Jon Snow's Direwolf)? I can't seem to remember but he was there when Jon Snow came back to life in Episode 2. Did Ghost have another appearance after that?

I miss that beast
Hoped that Ghost would eat Ramsey
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 20 2016 11:08 GMT
#30915
On June 20 2016 20:07 Daumen wrote:
So, what actually happened to Ghost? (Jon Snow's Direwolf). I can't seem to remember, he was there when Jon Snow came back to life, but did he(the wolf) have another appearance after that?

I miss that beast

Budget. They have enough going on in that episode.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
June 20 2016 11:17 GMT
#30916
The battle for Winterfel v2.0 has to be on of the worst I have ever seen, including hyper unrealistic korean flicks.

A cavalry charge turning into literal mountains and walls of corpses 3 meters high, an army that quietly stands around while a phalanx completely out of formation encircles them.

Yes the actual fighting ect was pretty good by the overall picture, wow that was shit.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 20 2016 11:23 GMT
#30917
The pile of corpses meters high happened in WW1 and other battles, but over a protracted period of time as they fought over a single area. It was a cool effect, but the battled didn't seem long enough for that to happen. Then again, its an hour long TV show.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-20 11:26:56
June 20 2016 11:23 GMT
#30918
Great cinematography this episode. A lot of shots that deserve to be rewatched multiple times to fully appreciate them.

I did not like the ending though. That Ramsay death was way too gratuitous. They promote the notion that it is awesome when the bad guy gets tortured to death.

And of course it made zero sense how Sansa waited to reveal her Arryn army until her brothers forces were almost wiped out and she could have been pretty certain her brother was dead by then. Would only make sense if she wanted him dead to have no competition for the throne. Unfortunately it was just done for the sake of "suspense" and had no plot reasons.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-20 11:43:03
June 20 2016 11:40 GMT
#30919
On June 20 2016 20:23 Redox wrote:
Great cinematography this episode. A lot of shots that deserve to be rewatched multiple times to fully appreciate them.

I did not like the ending though. That Ramsay death was way too gratuitous. They promote the notion that it is awesome when the bad guy gets tortured to death.

And of course it made zero sense how Sansa waited to reveal her Arryn army until her brothers forces were almost wiped out and she could have been pretty certain her brother was dead by then. Would only make sense if she wanted him dead to have no competition for the throne. Unfortunately it was just done for the sake of "suspense" and had no plot reasons.

I would guess Sansa's plan was to come in and save the day while the Boltons stormed into the prepared Wildling defenses like the original plan was, but then Sansa should have been horrified when she came onto the scene and saw the plan had gone wrong, instead she stands there with a smug face as she watches her step-brother probably be dead.

She wanted to prove that she had value to the men and so didn't want to reveal her trump card.

And Ramsay's death smells of fan service.

On June 20 2016 20:23 Plansix wrote:
The pile of corpses meters high happened in WW1 and other battles, but over a protracted period of time as they fought over a single area. It was a cool effect, but the battled didn't seem long enough for that to happen. Then again, its an hour long TV show.

Well yeah if you have battles that last weeks/months where people charge eachother and no one clears the corpses out of no mans land that can happen but not after a single cavalry charge.

The entire setup required to created the encircled wildling army is just so preposterous it really detracts from an otherwise great scene.



Also bemusing was the Masters 'negotiation'.
Their attack made sense, Daenarys was gone, the city was vulnerable but when she comes back surely they remember she has adolescent dragons and they have a fleet of wooden ship. They seemed rather surprised the Mother of Dragons has dragons.

Overall a nice episode tho but just a shame of such rather dumb inconsistencies.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13509 Posts
June 20 2016 11:41 GMT
#30920
Just brilliant.
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