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On June 12 2014 10:19 RenSC2 wrote: There's another possibility that he's actually going to try and reason with Mance, since Mance is a former Night's Watch. They'll be reasoning with their fists
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On June 12 2014 10:29 Assault_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 10:19 RenSC2 wrote: There's another possibility that he's actually going to try and reason with Mance, since Mance is a former Night's Watch. They'll be reasoning with their fists Fists wrapped around sword handles. I swear if he goes about this like a paragon Commander Shepard I will be upset!
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They don't need to hold the wall forever. Just till the whitewalkers show up and murder the wildlings....and then murder everyone on the wall....and then murder the entire of westeros into a endless winter. When is winter actually coming because it's been inbound for awhile.
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Does Mance even know that Jon is a loyal crow ? Perhaps he can lie his way to his goals :|
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On June 12 2014 10:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Kinda funny, in the end of season 3 if am not mistaken, Stannis showed some worries cause of the wall and white walkers/wildings, and that's all. And right now, nobody shits abot Castle Black and everyone plays Game of Thrones, while more dangerous things might happen soon.
This has been confusing me somewhat since the beginning of the season. The red woman told Stannis that the war over King's Landing doesn't matter and the real war is up in the north. It was for that reason that he let Davos live, as the fire god indicated he has a part to play in that war. They seem to have forgotten all about that. Can someone explain (without book information)?
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On June 12 2014 12:05 suxN wrote: Does Mance even know that Jon is a loyal crow ? Perhaps he can lie his way to his goals :|
It's hard to tell I suppose. We don't know how much Mance has communicated with the Wildlings on the other side of the wall. They have Wargs, so I guess it is possible that they sent word about Jon's betrayal.
In any case, it is probably gonna look suspicious as hell when Jon walks up to the Wildling army in a Crow "uniform" and not in his wildling clothing.
Maybe he is gonna spin a wild story about double-crossing and tripple-crossing like in Indiana Jones 4. He is gonna be like "I betrayed you so I could betray them again and now I am totally loyal to you" and then Indie is gonna show up and punch him in the fucking face.
Yes.
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On June 12 2014 15:47 FrogOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 10:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Kinda funny, in the end of season 3 if am not mistaken, Stannis showed some worries cause of the wall and white walkers/wildings, and that's all. And right now, nobody shits abot Castle Black and everyone plays Game of Thrones, while more dangerous things might happen soon. This has been confusing me somewhat since the beginning of the season. The red woman told Stannis that the war over King's Landing doesn't matter and the real war is up in the north. It was for that reason that he let Davos live, as the fire god indicated he has a part to play in that war. They seem to have forgotten all about that. Can someone explain (without book information)? I brought this issue up at the middle of this season too.
My guess is that, while theyre aware of the imminent dangers of the Wall. They cant do anything about it as long as their soldiers are starving/depleted. So they just get gold and hire mercs as the first step? Seems logical to me, just lacked explanation.
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On June 12 2014 15:47 FrogOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 10:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Kinda funny, in the end of season 3 if am not mistaken, Stannis showed some worries cause of the wall and white walkers/wildings, and that's all. And right now, nobody shits abot Castle Black and everyone plays Game of Thrones, while more dangerous things might happen soon. This has been confusing me somewhat since the beginning of the season. The red woman told Stannis that the war over King's Landing doesn't matter and the real war is up in the north. It was for that reason that he let Davos live, as the fire god indicated he has a part to play in that war. They seem to have forgotten all about that. Can someone explain (without book information)?
The only reason they haven't done anything about the north is because they don't have anything to do stuff with. He had little to no army and no money. They went to the Iron Bank and got their money, and therefore army. Now they can actually do something. Whether they go to the wall before or after conquering Kings Landing is up to question though.
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On June 12 2014 16:02 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 15:47 FrogOfWar wrote:On June 12 2014 10:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Kinda funny, in the end of season 3 if am not mistaken, Stannis showed some worries cause of the wall and white walkers/wildings, and that's all. And right now, nobody shits abot Castle Black and everyone plays Game of Thrones, while more dangerous things might happen soon. This has been confusing me somewhat since the beginning of the season. The red woman told Stannis that the war over King's Landing doesn't matter and the real war is up in the north. It was for that reason that he let Davos live, as the fire god indicated he has a part to play in that war. They seem to have forgotten all about that. Can someone explain (without book information)? The only reason they haven't done anything about the north is because they don't have anything to do stuff with. He had little to no army and no money. They went to the Iron Bank and got their money, and therefore army. Now they can actually do something. Whether they go to the wall before or after conquering Kings Landing is up to question though. It seems the logical decision is to come in and save the day form the white walkers after King's Landing is too weak to betray him or contend for the throne.
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On June 12 2014 06:25 ZasZ. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:49 KingAlphard wrote:On June 12 2014 05:38 karazax wrote: i liked most of that fight, but the anvil to Jon's face really broke the sense of immersion when it was shrugged off a few seconds later as if it didn't happen. That and the fact that if you were a named character you took out a guy every time you swing your sword unless fighting another named character, and if you aren't a named character you die in one swing of the sword. It's typical of most action movies, and it can be entertaining, but it's doesn't keep you locked in the "anyone can die" state of mind that the previous main character deaths worked so hard to create. Consider that if a character was a good fighter it probably would make a name for himself and would be a more important character, so it's normal that unknown people die very easily. However this doesn't apply to all situations, for example when all the wildlings ran towards the wall, tons of them got killed by arrows but you knew Ygritte couldn't be hit because it would be a very dumb death. (although iirc there's a scene where she dodges an arrow?) See the part I hated about that scene was the Nights Watch using fire arrows. For what reason? All it did was make shit easier to dodge because they can see it coming.
There was the same discussion for the Battle of Blackwater Bay. Fire arrows are used at night because they act as tracer ammunition. The archers know where their arrows are heading and can adjust aim accordingly. If they weren't lit up, they'd have a much harder time knowing where they were firing.
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On June 12 2014 05:38 karazax wrote: i liked most of that fight, but the anvil to Jon's face really broke the sense of immersion when it was shrugged off a few seconds later as if it didn't happen. That and the fact that if you were a named character you took out a guy every time you swing your sword unless fighting another named character, and if you aren't a named character you die in one swing of the sword. It's typical of most action movies, and it can be entertaining, but it's doesn't keep you locked in the "anyone can die" state of mind that the previous main character deaths worked so hard to create.
See it as an MMORPG, where named characters are legendary lvl 60's while everyone else are regulare lvl30's that get one hit by legendaries
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ive been rewatching basically all the one scenes on youtube and omg lol arya is sooo cute in her scenes with tywin they're both so clever, i cant wait till arya grows up becomes an assassin and i hope meets tywin and they have another convo of some sort.
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On June 12 2014 15:59 KadaverBB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 12:05 suxN wrote: Does Mance even know that Jon is a loyal crow ? Perhaps he can lie his way to his goals :| It's hard to tell I suppose. We don't know how much Mance has communicated with the Wildlings on the other side of the wall. They have Wargs, so I guess it is possible that they sent word about Jon's betrayal. In any case, it is probably gonna look suspicious as hell when Jon walks up to the Wildling army in a Crow "uniform" and not in his wildling clothing. Maybe he is gonna spin a wild story about double-crossing and tripple-crossing like in Indiana Jones 4. He is gonna be like "I betrayed you so I could betray them again and now I am totally loyal to you" and then Indie is gonna show up and punch him in the fucking face. Yes.
Hahaha, I second this story.
Yes.
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Regarding the Wildlings south of the Wall: I really doubt they can communicate at all across the wall. If they could they wouldn't need signals like "the biggest fire the north has ever seen".
Even if they figured out how to have their wargs sent birds to the other camp, what would they carry? I doubt Tormund, or any of his gang, can read and write. Message by bird is pretty high tech in the rest of the realm (only the scientist Maesters seem to know how to), it's really doubtful the Wildlings have anything close to that, even with Wargs.
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I think the high tech of maesters is making the raven go to the correct castle. Not the fact that they can write.
Apparently they can spread news like wildfire, every event seems to be communicated to every single castle in westeros.
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+ Show Spoiler [Next Episode Preview] +David Benioff and Dan Weiss on the last episode of the season: “It’s the best finale we’ve ever done, bar none."
They added that they are so “immensely proud” of the finale that there are concerns no future episode will better it.
Since the last episode is called "The Children", we can already make some assumptions for what it stands for: - Daenerys announces that she wants to have children - Children help Tyiron escape the prison - Children beat each other up in the North - There will be a big Lannister children's party - The Hound adopts Sansa and Arya as his children
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On June 12 2014 21:38 urboss wrote:+ Show Spoiler +David Benioff and Dan Weiss on the last episode of the season: “It’s the best finale we’ve ever done, bar none."
They added that they are so “immensely proud” of the finale that there are concerns no future episode will better it.
Since the last episode is called "The Children", we can already make some assumptions for what it stands for: - Daenerys announces that she wants to have children - Children help Tyiron escape the prison - Children beat each other up in the North - There will be a big Lannister children's party - The Hound adopts Sansa and Arya as his children
Edit: just saw the warning and spoiler tag. Not that any of this is wild prediction, but just to be safe.
+ Show Spoiler +Or more probably the divergent resolutions to the subplots of Tywin and Ned's children, with Tywin's struggling over whether to kill one of their own and Ned's struggling to stop the wildling army/become biffles with littlefinger/survive as the Hound gets sicker/and... wait, what is Bran doing again?
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Season finale and the Emmy submissions.
+ Show Spoiler + The season finale was submitted to the emmys for Outstanding Prosthetic Make-up.
More zombies and White Walker? Will we see that baby again, that's why the title is children?
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I've been watching the trailer for the finale
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There are fucking horses running with or against the wildlings!
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