On June 12 2014 10:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Kinda funny, in the end of season 3 if am not mistaken, Stannis showed some worries cause of the wall and white walkers/wildings, and that's all. And right now, nobody shits abot Castle Black and everyone plays Game of Thrones, while more dangerous things might happen soon.
This has been confusing me somewhat since the beginning of the season. The red woman told Stannis that the war over King's Landing doesn't matter and the real war is up in the north. It was for that reason that he let Davos live, as the fire god indicated he has a part to play in that war. They seem to have forgotten all about that. Can someone explain (without book information)?
I don't think they have forgotten about it. I think it makes sense that Stannis arrives at the wall in the next episode because otherwise Jon Snow and his night watch is kinda screwed (and I don't think Jon snow will die). So Stannis plan might be to save the north against the wildlings --> become popular in the north --> Get some new alliances --> Increase his army size.
On June 12 2014 10:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Kinda funny, in the end of season 3 if am not mistaken, Stannis showed some worries cause of the wall and white walkers/wildings, and that's all. And right now, nobody shits abot Castle Black and everyone plays Game of Thrones, while more dangerous things might happen soon.
This has been confusing me somewhat since the beginning of the season. The red woman told Stannis that the war over King's Landing doesn't matter and the real war is up in the north. It was for that reason that he let Davos live, as the fire god indicated he has a part to play in that war. They seem to have forgotten all about that. Can someone explain (without book information)?
I don't think they have forgotten about it. I think it makes sense that Stannis arrives at the wall in the next episode because otherwise Jon Snow and his night watch is kinda screwed (and I don't think Jon snow will die). So Stannis plan might be to save the north against the wildlings --> become popular in the north --> Get some new alliances --> Increase his army size.
he is/was kinda on the other side of the continent
On June 12 2014 10:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Kinda funny, in the end of season 3 if am not mistaken, Stannis showed some worries cause of the wall and white walkers/wildings, and that's all. And right now, nobody shits abot Castle Black and everyone plays Game of Thrones, while more dangerous things might happen soon.
This has been confusing me somewhat since the beginning of the season. The red woman told Stannis that the war over King's Landing doesn't matter and the real war is up in the north. It was for that reason that he let Davos live, as the fire god indicated he has a part to play in that war. They seem to have forgotten all about that. Can someone explain (without book information)?
I don't think they have forgotten about it. I think it makes sense that Stannis arrives at the wall in the next episode because otherwise Jon Snow and his night watch is kinda screwed (and I don't think Jon snow will die). So Stannis plan might be to save the north against the wildlings --> become popular in the north --> Get some new alliances --> Increase his army size.
he is/was kinda on the other side of the continent
Well, it could have been weeks ago since he was in Bravoos. We don't really get much information about that. It's also possible it may not happen in the next episode, I just think it would make sense that Stannis - as he seems to be the only character that has ever focussed on the north - comes and saves them (because I don't think they can survive without him). Alternatively Jon could kill Mance and the wildlings could fall apart afterwards, but that just seems kinda lame tbh. Stannis saving the nights watch would just be a ton more epic --> Makes it more likely to happen since GRRM solutions typical are pretty epic.
I just put this in spoiler as it isn't mentioned in the show (at least I don't think it is), but after after having spent my share of the time reading background stories/watching videos on game-of-thrones (without having read the books), I think we may see Children of the Forest in next weeks episode. They were the original specie in Westeros before the humans arrived. Noone really knows what happened to them, but when I read about it, it just seemed a bit weird that this old specie would be mentioned in the history of Westeros without having any impact on all on what happens during game-of-thrones.
I am kinda looking at the trailer now, and I like, wtf is it about that tree that Bran has a vision of? Is that related to the children of the forestin some way?
On the other hand, there are also so many other stories to be told in this last episode, so intrudicing a completely new element could be pretty confusing, but regardless, there is something magical about that tree, otherwise they wouldn't travel to it, and the Childrens were known to be able to use magic.
On June 12 2014 10:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Kinda funny, in the end of season 3 if am not mistaken, Stannis showed some worries cause of the wall and white walkers/wildings, and that's all. And right now, nobody shits abot Castle Black and everyone plays Game of Thrones, while more dangerous things might happen soon.
This has been confusing me somewhat since the beginning of the season. The red woman told Stannis that the war over King's Landing doesn't matter and the real war is up in the north. It was for that reason that he let Davos live, as the fire god indicated he has a part to play in that war. They seem to have forgotten all about that. Can someone explain (without book information)?
I don't think they have forgotten about it. I think it makes sense that Stannis arrives at the wall in the next episode because otherwise Jon Snow and his night watch is kinda screwed (and I don't think Jon snow will die). So Stannis plan might be to save the north against the wildlings --> become popular in the north --> Get some new alliances --> Increase his army size.
he is/was kinda on the other side of the continent
I just put this in spoiler as it isn't mentioned in the show (at least I don't think it is), but after after having spent my share of the time reading background stories/watching videos on game-of-thrones (without having read the books), I think we may see Children of the Forest in next weeks episode. They were the original specie in Westeros before the humans arrived. Noone really knows what happened to them, but when I read about it, it just seemed a bit weird that this old specie would be mentioned in the history of Westeros without having any impact on all on what happens during game-of-thrones.
I am kinda looking at the trailer now, and I like, wtf is it about that tree that Bran has a vision of? Is that related to the children of the forestin some way?
On the other hand, there are also so many other stories to be told in this last episode, so intrudicing a completely new element could be pretty confusing, but regardless, there is something magical about that tree, otherwise they wouldn't travel to it, and the Childrens were known to be able to use magic.
I haven't heard about the children of the forest, but it makes sense, that Bran with the tree somehow evokes some creatures that have superpowers to defeat the whitewalker babies. Now I'm a bit worried that there will be a focus on the Bran story without any Tyrion resolution...
On June 12 2014 10:16 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: Kinda funny, in the end of season 3 if am not mistaken, Stannis showed some worries cause of the wall and white walkers/wildings, and that's all. And right now, nobody shits abot Castle Black and everyone plays Game of Thrones, while more dangerous things might happen soon.
This has been confusing me somewhat since the beginning of the season. The red woman told Stannis that the war over King's Landing doesn't matter and the real war is up in the north. It was for that reason that he let Davos live, as the fire god indicated he has a part to play in that war. They seem to have forgotten all about that. Can someone explain (without book information)?
I don't think they have forgotten about it. I think it makes sense that Stannis arrives at the wall in the next episode because otherwise Jon Snow and his night watch is kinda screwed (and I don't think Jon snow will die). So Stannis plan might be to save the north against the wildlings --> become popular in the north --> Get some new alliances --> Increase his army size.
Yeah, makes sense. Stannis showing up at the wall was indeed a possibility I discussed with my friends after the last episode. But as far as I remember, Stannis and his people always talked about King's Landing and never about the Wall, also when they asked the Iron Bank for money. I was just confused that the Wall was never mentioned again. But we'll see. We haven't seen him for so long and the season is over, so he should definitely be in the next episode, and his absence in the teaser could mean that he's the big surprise (d'oh!).
On June 13 2014 06:50 Mataza wrote: The red woman told him to go north. Sometimes I fear Stannis is hopelessly following her every command.
I was pretty sure the bank lend the money for him to take the throne, not to go waste it on some enemy that might or might not threaten him and is far away.
Also, ever since the first time I heard of the wildling army I was betting on the white walker army to crash with them. Was very confused so far that these 2 huge armies didn't meet at some point, but maybe they will now. Or the walkers ambush them or something, I don't know. At least that's how I expect Jon Snow to make it out (then again, the show does like to kill its main characters, so maybe there is no getting out for Mr. Snow).
On June 13 2014 07:49 goody153 wrote: After recovering the mountain vs viper. I finally watched ep 9 .
Great episode .. the giants were great and non-stop fighting was cool.
and i have a feeling snow is gonna die .. Ned Starks kids don't have luck in the vs all the odds type of happenings.
I cant help but think the opposite, he seems to have some sort of aura around him that exudes importance for the plot, i think he's going to do big things in the white walker storyline.
Of course, GRRM could just kill him with a giant horse dick. (South park ftw.)
On June 13 2014 06:50 Mataza wrote: The red woman told him to go north. Sometimes I fear Stannis is hopelessly following her every command.
I was pretty sure the bank lend the money for him to take the throne, not to go waste it on some enemy that might or might not threaten him and is far away.
Also, ever since the first time I heard of the wildling army I was betting on the white walker army to crash with them. Was very confused so far that these 2 huge armies didn't meet at some point, but maybe they will now. Or the walkers ambush them or something, I don't know. At least that's how I expect Jon Snow to make it out (then again, the show does like to kill its main characters, so maybe there is no getting out for Mr. Snow).
You can't kill the white walkers without weapons made of dragonglass. The wildlings probably don't have that type of weapon to kill them. And remember, that the wildlings aren't actually evil. They are simple people who live north of the wall as they don't want to live under a ruler (kinda anarchistic people I guess). But with the uprise of the White Walker, they will eventually all get killed if they don't go south.
On June 13 2014 07:49 goody153 wrote: After recovering the mountain vs viper. I finally watched ep 9 .
Great episode .. the giants were great and non-stop fighting was cool.
and i have a feeling snow is gonna die .. Ned Starks kids don't have luck in the vs all the odds type of happenings.
I cant help but think the opposite, he seems to have some sort of aura around him that exudes importance for the plot, i think he's going to do big things in the white walker storyline.
Of course, GRRM could just kill him with a giant horse dick. (South park ftw.)
This. There is just no way Jon Snow will die, otherwise all the time we spent on the wall learning about the !@#$%^&* Jon Snow, would have been pointless.
Killing Rob Stark off was different as that story had implications for the Boltons vs Greyjoy battle for the north that we are now witnessing + created a need for revenge. Killing off Jon Snow wouldn't really have any further implications besides having just wasted the viewers time.
Further, GRRM typically punishes mistakes, regardless of whether they are made by the good or bad guys. Jon Snow has bascially only done what he was supposed to do so far. I really doubt he will get punished any time soon.
Didn't the Iron bank lent money to Stannis after the Onion knight showed them the letter about the north ? Can't remember how it went exactly, but I'm fairly sure the letter was shown...
On June 13 2014 08:40 Cynry wrote: Didn't the Iron bank lent money to Stannis after the Onion knight showed them the letter about the north ? Can't remember how it went exactly, but I'm fairly sure the letter was shown...
They lend him the money after the onion knight showed him his hand with the cut off fingers. "Stannis doesn't talk about doing shit, he just does it."