I loved the scene where Jaime talked to Barristan and Rob and how the King stops smiling when Jaime says the Mad Kings last words. "Burn 'em all!"
The end with Arya was sooooo good. When you hear Syrio "Dead, Dead, Very Dead" and then the swords sounds while he pokes Arya's stomach and you start to fear for her and realize that she is learning to KILL. And the sound of swords remembers you what it means to kill.
In general that dead people and killing were referenced so much adds to the tension.
On May 02 2011 15:25 Gene wrote: can someone tell me what about the syrio scene was so cool? Is it just that arya is getting what she wants, her character evolving? The actual fight choreography? because the former i can understand easily, but i fear the answer is the latter, which to me looked bad. or am i totally off base what did i miss
Why did it look bad? How was it 'fight choreography' anyway, it was just a skillful man dancing around a clumsy but spunky girl.
The thing is he didn't seem that much skillful to me. In the books he is described differently.
Liked: Jamie Lannister scenes. He's my fave char in the series as he is so damn complex and deserves all the character development he gets.
Disliked: Jon's scene in the barracks which should've taken place with the blacksmith but instead took place with Tyrion. That moment is supposed to be a very humbling moment for Jon as he realizes how small minded he is and lets go of his ego but they just glossed over it and it felt half-assed and unconvincing.
On May 02 2011 21:18 ItsMeDomLee wrote: Disliked: Jon's scene in the barracks which should've taken place with the blacksmith but instead took place with Tyrion. That moment is supposed to be a very humbling moment for Jon as he realizes how small minded he is and lets go of his ego but they just glossed over it and it felt half-assed and unconvincing.
I agree with this. I guess we're supposed to put two and two together when we see him acting much more charitably towards his fellow trainees in his next scene.
it's starting to get interesting, the first episodes weren't too special.
the last episode was the best of the show thus far, so i'll definitely keep watching. if the series keeps upping the quality steadily, this can certainly become a classic show in the long run.
On May 02 2011 23:08 -Archangel- wrote: Can anyone that has not read the books explain to me why they consider part 3 best so far? I do not understand it.
I've read the first 2 books and I don't think part 3 was the best so far at all. Last weeks was better I think but I guess everyone has their own opinions.
I'm starting to fear that they're meddling with the story too much - like the scene with Joffrey and Cersei was completely unnecessary. These two characters don't need to be humanized or be made more "relatable" than they are in the books. Even when Cersei gets fleshed out more in the later books, her motivations and complexities always seemed more interesting than what it seems like they're going for here. In their attempt to make characters more complex, it feels like they're doing the opposite, and making them more bland and grey. Also the scene with Jamie retelling his slaying of the mad king, although a good scene, it felt like they're rushing his arch too much forward.
Another thing, and I don't want to be too pessimistic, but I don't see them pulling off the major action set-pieces+ Show Spoiler +
, especially the gigantic naval battle in book 2 or dragons actually acting in scenes
considering how jarring the special effects shots looked in episode 3. Not nearly as bad as V or some other TV productions, but still... I just can't see them doing a lot of the stuff they probably want to do on their current budget and the short amount of time they have for each episode.
Yea that is true. In the first book Jamie doesn't even get this much "good" character thrown out. He's portrayed as much more ruthless and dick headed than in the show.
On May 02 2011 23:42 Quotidian wrote: I'm starting to fear that they're meddling with the story too much - like the scene with Joffrey and Cersei was completely unnecessary. These two characters don't need to be humanized or be made more "relatable" than they are in the books. Even when Cersei gets fleshed out more in the later books, her motivations and complexities always seemed more interesting than what they're going for here. In their attempt to make characters more complex, it feels like they're doing the opposite, and making them more bland and grey.
Also the scene with Jamie retelling his slaying of the former king, although a good scene, it felt like they're rushing his arch too much forward.
Yeah but this is a TV show. The problem is that the views in the book are the biased views of specific characters. On TV we they need to flesh out the characters and can not wait till season 3 and then: "SURPRISE they are different from what you've seen so far" because we watch them all from the outside. And you can bet they will show stuff (and I think need to show stuff) that we only get from hearsay in the books[my biggest criticism of Martins work; I want to see some of what you only are told by him through reports etc.]
But you may have a valid point nonetheless. Guess we will see how it goes eh?
On May 02 2011 19:41 Tachion wrote: What is all this talk concerning the mad king who got stabbed in the back? Who was he?
The former Targaryen King Aerys, who was Viserys and Dany's father. Robert and Ned rebelled to over throw him to make Robert King. At the end of that rebellion Jaime killed the king he was sworn to protect as a member of the Kingsguard, earning him the nickname Kingslayer, and now continues to serve as a member of the Kingsguard for the new king Robert, so Ned doesn't trust him. The Targaryen children fled into exile across the sea to escape being killed like the rest of their family was.
As was discussed by Jaime and Ned this episode, the mad king burned Ned's brother and father. During episode 1 Robert blamed the mad king's oldest son, and Viserys and Dany's eldest brother, Rhaegar Targaryen for the death of Ned's sister who Robert was in love with. Robert personally killed Rhaegar in a battle at the Trident river, and said he dreams of killing him every night when he was talking to Ned in the crypts at Winterfell.
He confuses the white walkers and the wildlings, but otherwise grasped most of the major points other than Littlefinger's name and thinking Tyrion won that dagger by winning the tournament himself.
1. Where is Rickon Stark, has he ever been filmed? Did they remove him from the story, if so, why did Jon Snow mention that Ned had 5 children?
2. Who was the older man that was in the king's chamber when Jaime Lannister was invited? They were talking about killing, but I am certain he was not introduced to the viewers.
On May 03 2011 00:21 HowardRoark wrote: Two questions regarding the show:
1. Where is Rickon Stark, has he ever been filmed? Did they remove him from the story, if so, why did Jon Snow mention that Ned had 5 children?
2. Who was the older man that was in the king's chamber when Jaime Lannister was invited? They were talking about killing, but I am certain he was not introduced to the viewers.
1. Rickon is a little kid and does not play a major role in the first book. So you probably wont see him much in the first season. He stays in Winterfell with Bran.
2. the old man is called Barristan and he is the Commander of the Kingsguard.