...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him.
Regardless of whether it ends up holding true or not I am pumped about how much discussion I sparked. Bravo TL.
I'm like, 99.9% sure it's true at this point.
If it's not, they're trolling us soooo hard with it.
On November 10 2011 04:43 zalz wrote: If Dexter goes darker (wich his brother appearing instead of his father implies) then i would enjoy that turn a good lot.
It's a realistic turn for the character.
Dexter was never really a good guy. He was a serial killer trained to channel his urges on bad people rather then normal people.
It doesn't make sense for him to turn towards the good path, he was a serial killer from birth. You don't shake something like that, you only drift further towards it.
So, Dexter turning more reckless would make sense. I just hope they don't pull some lame move where he ends up turning "good" again near the end of the season. This turn for the darker should be a turn for good.
i feel like it's actually exactly the opposite of the "truth" How many of the kids that torture animals and how many of teenagers that lack empathy grow up to be serial killers? Very very few. His father was just living out his fantasy of punishing criminals he couldn't touch through his son - soemthing extremely common from psychological standpoint. I think the way all the previous season have developed it was shown to be correct by the show writers - his supposed need to kill never manifests itself except for in Dexter's own narrative and over the course of the show he displays compassion for many different people. Dexter's own narrative that contradicts this point of view seems to stem from what his father told him - even the term or the idea of Dark Passenger that his father, i believed, coined. I feel that it would be a lot more in tune with Dexter to stop killing at all then to go more violent.
The term "Dark Passenger" was actually first used by Lila in the early episodes of season 2, in the diner just after the AA meeting
It doesn't make sense for him to turn towards the good path, he was a serial killer from birth. You don't shake something like that, you only drift further towards it.
Well, rebirth, all indications show that he and his brother were normal until they experienced their mother being murdered in front of them
I'm pretty sure "Dark Passenger" was said in season 1 as well.
If it's not, they're trolling us soooo hard with it.
This episode had him telling the other guy to pay for him. It also had Dexter getting a very well timed phonecall wich kept him from seeing, or rather not seeing, that it is just 1 guy with a fight club affliction.
Like you said, if it turns out the guy is real then they are really just doing it for the troll factor.
...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him.
Regardless of whether it ends up holding true or not I am pumped about how much discussion I sparked. Bravo TL.
I'm like, 99.9% sure it's true at this point.
If it's not, they're trolling us soooo hard with it.
On November 10 2011 04:43 zalz wrote: If Dexter goes darker (wich his brother appearing instead of his father implies) then i would enjoy that turn a good lot.
It's a realistic turn for the character.
Dexter was never really a good guy. He was a serial killer trained to channel his urges on bad people rather then normal people.
It doesn't make sense for him to turn towards the good path, he was a serial killer from birth. You don't shake something like that, you only drift further towards it.
So, Dexter turning more reckless would make sense. I just hope they don't pull some lame move where he ends up turning "good" again near the end of the season. This turn for the darker should be a turn for good.
i feel like it's actually exactly the opposite of the "truth" How many of the kids that torture animals and how many of teenagers that lack empathy grow up to be serial killers? Very very few. His father was just living out his fantasy of punishing criminals he couldn't touch through his son - soemthing extremely common from psychological standpoint. I think the way all the previous season have developed it was shown to be correct by the show writers - his supposed need to kill never manifests itself except for in Dexter's own narrative and over the course of the show he displays compassion for many different people. Dexter's own narrative that contradicts this point of view seems to stem from what his father told him - even the term or the idea of Dark Passenger that his father, i believed, coined. I feel that it would be a lot more in tune with Dexter to stop killing at all then to go more violent.
The term "Dark Passenger" was actually first used by Lila in the early episodes of season 2, in the diner just after the AA meeting
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On November 10 2011 04:43 zalz wrote:
It doesn't make sense for him to turn towards the good path, he was a serial killer from birth. You don't shake something like that, you only drift further towards it.
Well, rebirth, all indications show that he and his brother were normal until they experienced their mother being murdered in front of them
I'm pretty sure "Dark Passenger" was said in season 1 as well.
Truth Be Told [1.11] Dexter: I've never had much use for the concept of Hell, but if Hell exists, I'm in it. The same images running through my head over and over. I was there. I saw my mother's death. A buried memory forgotten all these years. It climbed inside me that day, and it's been with me every since. My Dark Passenger.
I'm sure it was used before than in internal dialogues as well.
So I take it his brother is a manifestation of his dark passenger. I'm also guessing that something is gonna happen where he'll kill someone but won't follow the code and it will be b/c his dark passenger is exerting even more control over him. Which is why he now has a manifestation of his dark passenger in the first place. Just what I'm speculating anyways.
So I take it his brother is a manifestation of his dark passenger. I'm also guessing that something is gonna happen where he'll kill someone but won't follow the code and it will be b/c his dark passenger is exerting even more control over him. Which is why he now has a manifestation of his dark passenger in the first place. Just what I'm speculating anyways.
That, or the icetruck killer came back to life, snuck into Deb's office and is making snarky comments.
I am very excited for the next episode, this season is turning out surprisingly well. Also, the way I always looked at it, I assumed that Dexter's father that he is always talking to was the "light" that Brother Sam had saw inside of him whereas now that his brother Brian is back, that is in fact his "dark passenger" and perhaps we'll see less of that "light".
On November 10 2011 04:43 zalz wrote: If Dexter goes darker (wich his brother appearing instead of his father implies) then i would enjoy that turn a good lot.
It's a realistic turn for the character.
Dexter was never really a good guy. He was a serial killer trained to channel his urges on bad people rather then normal people.
It doesn't make sense for him to turn towards the good path, he was a serial killer from birth. You don't shake something like that, you only drift further towards it.
So, Dexter turning more reckless would make sense. I just hope they don't pull some lame move where he ends up turning "good" again near the end of the season. This turn for the darker should be a turn for good.
i feel like it's actually exactly the opposite of the "truth" How many of the kids that torture animals and how many of teenagers that lack empathy grow up to be serial killers? Very very few. His father was just living out his fantasy of punishing criminals he couldn't touch through his son - soemthing extremely common from psychological standpoint. I think the way all the previous season have developed it was shown to be correct by the show writers - his supposed need to kill never manifests itself except for in Dexter's own narrative and over the course of the show he displays compassion for many different people. Dexter's own narrative that contradicts this point of view seems to stem from what his father told him - even the term or the idea of Dark Passenger that his father, i believed, coined. I feel that it would be a lot more in tune with Dexter to stop killing at all then to go more violent.
I always felt the irony of Dexter is that his father was the one who fucked him up, who made him the man he became and then not only refused to accept him but actually killed himself out of guilt for how evil his creation was. Harry is the bad guy.
So I take it his brother is a manifestation of his dark passenger. I'm also guessing that something is gonna happen where he'll kill someone but won't follow the code and it will be b/c his dark passenger is exerting even more control over him. Which is why he now has a manifestation of his dark passenger in the first place. Just what I'm speculating anyways.
That, or the icetruck killer came back to life, snuck into Deb's office and is making snarky comments.
Must say, I had a nice, hearty laugh when I read this. Bravo.
So I take it his brother is a manifestation of his dark passenger. I'm also guessing that something is gonna happen where he'll kill someone but won't follow the code and it will be b/c his dark passenger is exerting even more control over him. Which is why he now has a manifestation of his dark passenger in the first place. Just what I'm speculating anyways.
That, or the icetruck killer came back to life, snuck into Deb's office and is making snarky comments.
EPT
