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hazefrog
Profile Joined November 2011
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 18:44:29
November 08 2011 18:43 GMT
#2921
A number of years ago I ran across a violent psychotic who lead a double life. (horrible experience to say the least) It makes me wonder if today's pop culture is an accurate representation of the subject or just entertainment. Does this show do a good job of covering the subject of sociopathy? Any avid Dexter fans wanna summerize how the show explains the subject? I've never watched myself.
He raged at the world, at his family, at his life. But mostly he just raged.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 08 2011 18:48 GMT
#2922
On November 09 2011 03:35 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 03:04 Mogwai wrote:
At first I assumed that it was going to be a prop for one of the doomsday killings, but now that I'm thinking of it harder, that would be incredibly asinine, since it would be handing over his own DNA in a crimescene. Unless of course that's part of the plan. To make it look like Travis was killed or something. I dunno, I don't really have any bright ideas on it.

these guys believe theyre bringing on an end of the world. What do they care about evidence.
Either way there isnt much left in Revelations after whore of babylon. Possible spoilers regarding the fridge blood.
+ Show Spoiler +
And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

well, they care enough to not get caught before they bring about the end of the world. they might not be as careful as some to leave absolutely no trace, but they also wanna stay out of custody long enough to complete their steps.
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ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
November 08 2011 19:18 GMT
#2923
eh, i guess sam didn't really serve much purpose to the rest of the plot (unless he's going to be a 3rd hallucination beside harry and rudy rofl), but mos def as an actor seems to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> than colin hanks.
Rebornlife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada224 Posts
November 08 2011 22:42 GMT
#2924
On November 09 2011 03:43 hazefrog wrote:
A number of years ago I ran across a violent psychotic who lead a double life. (horrible experience to say the least) It makes me wonder if today's pop culture is an accurate representation of the subject or just entertainment. Does this show do a good job of covering the subject of sociopathy? Any avid Dexter fans wanna summerize how the show explains the subject? I've never watched myself.


Honestly I think it really does a good job portraying a sociopath. Ive read all the books and seen every episode multiple times. Ive watched documentaries on Ted Bundy etc, and I feel Dexter is an accurate representation.

But with that said, every sociopath, like every normal person, is different. Dexter has been through very unique experiences, especially how his father raised him. Because no known serial killer has been through the circumstances Dexter has, we don't know how a person in real life would respond to it. But i feel the show does a very good job at it. Dexter is on one hand capable of being a normal functioning person, but his darkness takes over once in a while, and while the darkness is "driving" he is capable of what any serial killer in history has done.

Watch the show, it's totally worth it. But start from the beginning!
SCDex
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany12 Posts
November 08 2011 22:49 GMT
#2925
I LOVE to watch Dexter. But here in Germany Dexter is very unpopulary.
Please try to ignore some grammar mistakes, im still learning that language! Thanks.
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
November 08 2011 23:02 GMT
#2926
On November 09 2011 07:49 SCDex wrote:
I LOVE to watch Dexter. But here in Germany Dexter is very unpopulary.


In what way? It is not widely known, or people dislike it?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 08 2011 23:22 GMT
#2927
So.. fater watching the episode, what does it mean for him to see his brother back in his mind ?
I watched the previous seasons so long ago, i don't remember the parts where it was that.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
November 09 2011 00:50 GMT
#2928
i think it sounds a little awkward every time he mentions his 'dark passenger'
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 09 2011 02:37 GMT
#2929
i want a sex scene with batista's sister

hottest girl ever
And all is illuminated.
Tson232
Profile Joined February 2011
United States12 Posts
November 09 2011 02:46 GMT
#2930
Brian being back in dexter's head might mean that he will give into his dark urges more, kind of like the devil on the shoulder thing, harry is the angel brian is the devil. Could be one direction they're trying to go in.
Mjolnir
Profile Joined January 2009
912 Posts
November 09 2011 03:13 GMT
#2931
On November 09 2011 09:50 Kokujin wrote:
i think it sounds a little awkward every time he mentions his 'dark passenger'


Yeah. Talk about overuse of a phrase, eh? I swear they throw that in every other monologue. We get it, you're dark, you struggle. Stop being so fucking introspective, melodramatic, and emo. Shit or get off the pot.

Bring me back my season 1 and 2 bad ass Dexter. Be conflicted, sure, just don't fucking whine about it for the entirety of an episode.

Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 03:19:57
November 09 2011 03:19 GMT
#2932
nvm
Wishing you well.
skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
November 09 2011 08:40 GMT
#2933
On November 09 2011 12:13 Mjolnir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 09:50 Kokujin wrote:
i think it sounds a little awkward every time he mentions his 'dark passenger'


Yeah. Talk about overuse of a phrase, eh? I swear they throw that in every other monologue. We get it, you're dark, you struggle. Stop being so fucking introspective, melodramatic, and emo. Shit or get off the pot.

Bring me back my season 1 and 2 bad ass Dexter. Be conflicted, sure, just don't fucking whine about it for the entirety of an episode.


I think the idea is that the dark passenger is becoming a bigger burden and harder to overcome. In the early episodes he had his training from Harry and it was as simple as that... He could stay detached from everyone and everything and just stick to his "business."

But as time has gone on, he's learning that things aren't as simple as his Fathers training might have implied.

I think the turning point really was the death of Rita (remember the start of last season?) since then the dark passenger really has taken control of Dexter, rather than the other way.

Either way, this Dexter is definitely different to the one we were introduced to in the pilot... And I for one am glad, do you really want to see a character not develop at all over 6 seasons of a TV series?
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
November 09 2011 19:37 GMT
#2934
Can Sunday come faster please?
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#2935
If Dexter goes darker (wich his brother appearing instead of his father implies) then i would enjoy that turn a good lot.

It's a realistic turn for the character.


Dexter was never really a good guy. He was a serial killer trained to channel his urges on bad people rather then normal people.

It doesn't make sense for him to turn towards the good path, he was a serial killer from birth. You don't shake something like that, you only drift further towards it.


So, Dexter turning more reckless would make sense. I just hope they don't pull some lame move where he ends up turning "good" again near the end of the season. This turn for the darker should be a turn for good.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 19:55:26
November 09 2011 19:54 GMT
#2936
On November 10 2011 04:43 zalz wrote:
If Dexter goes darker (wich his brother appearing instead of his father implies) then i would enjoy that turn a good lot.

It's a realistic turn for the character.


Dexter was never really a good guy. He was a serial killer trained to channel his urges on bad people rather then normal people.

It doesn't make sense for him to turn towards the good path, he was a serial killer from birth. You don't shake something like that, you only drift further towards it.


So, Dexter turning more reckless would make sense. I just hope they don't pull some lame move where he ends up turning "good" again near the end of the season. This turn for the darker should be a turn for good.

i feel like it's actually exactly the opposite of the "truth"
How many of the kids that torture animals and how many of teenagers that lack empathy grow up to be serial killers? Very very few. His father was just living out his fantasy of punishing criminals he couldn't touch through his son - soemthing extremely common from psychological standpoint. I think the way all the previous season have developed it was shown to be correct by the show writers - his supposed need to kill never manifests itself except for in Dexter's own narrative and over the course of the show he displays compassion for many different people. Dexter's own narrative that contradicts this point of view seems to stem from what his father told him - even the term or the idea of Dark Passenger that his father, i believed, coined.
I feel that it would be a lot more in tune with Dexter to stop killing at all then to go more violent.
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Cainam
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States421 Posts
November 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#2937
On October 25 2011 05:03 Cainam wrote:
I don't think anyone has proposed this yet but is it clear to anyone else that...

+ Show Spoiler +
...Olmos' character is not real. I'm pretty sure he is dead and is somehow manifested as a part of Colin Hanks' personality, not unlike Dexter's father. He has not addressed anyone besides Hanks directly, and when they were at the restaurant he did not even have a place setting in front of him.


Regardless of whether it ends up holding true or not I am pumped about how much discussion I sparked. Bravo TL.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 09 2011 23:17 GMT
#2938
On November 08 2011 17:52 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 20:11 Sfydjklm wrote:
i bet debra fucks the psychatrist


100% chance imo. Totally looks that way, good times !

Also does anyone else think maybe Anderson or Masuka's new intern will be the "next" person to be suspicious of Dexter or whatever like the guy from S1 that fucking hated him?

LOVING THIS SEASON!

I died a little inside when you called Doaks the guy from season 1. Love Doaks best character ever.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 01:34:56
November 10 2011 01:31 GMT
#2939
On November 10 2011 04:54 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 04:43 zalz wrote:
If Dexter goes darker (wich his brother appearing instead of his father implies) then i would enjoy that turn a good lot.

It's a realistic turn for the character.


Dexter was never really a good guy. He was a serial killer trained to channel his urges on bad people rather then normal people.

It doesn't make sense for him to turn towards the good path, he was a serial killer from birth. You don't shake something like that, you only drift further towards it.


So, Dexter turning more reckless would make sense. I just hope they don't pull some lame move where he ends up turning "good" again near the end of the season. This turn for the darker should be a turn for good.

i feel like it's actually exactly the opposite of the "truth"
How many of the kids that torture animals and how many of teenagers that lack empathy grow up to be serial killers? Very very few. His father was just living out his fantasy of punishing criminals he couldn't touch through his son - soemthing extremely common from psychological standpoint. I think the way all the previous season have developed it was shown to be correct by the show writers - his supposed need to kill never manifests itself except for in Dexter's own narrative and over the course of the show he displays compassion for many different people. Dexter's own narrative that contradicts this point of view seems to stem from what his father told him - even the term or the idea of Dark Passenger that his father, i believed, coined.
I feel that it would be a lot more in tune with Dexter to stop killing at all then to go more violent.



The term "Dark Passenger" was actually first used by Lila in the early episodes of season 2, in the diner just after the AA meeting

Edit:
On November 10 2011 04:43 zalz wrote:

It doesn't make sense for him to turn towards the good path, he was a serial killer from birth. You don't shake something like that, you only drift further towards it.

Well, rebirth, all indications show that he and his brother were normal until they experienced their mother being murdered in front of them
You can't milk those!
dOTY
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany483 Posts
November 10 2011 09:48 GMT
#2940
Hell yeah, Brian and Trinity(!!??) back. Awesome preview for next episode. I think it's gonna be so epic!

Cant wait
It’s cool to cry, don’t ever question your strength .
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