[Manga] Naruto - Page 848

On March 20 2014 07:17 Slayer91 wrote:
beyond hokage level
also its a pretty strong ninja using it, why should everyone who can use it automatically get to the same level with it

On March 20 2014 08:16 AsnSensation wrote:


Your second point makes no sense though, someone activating 8 gates, it's a given that he's a strong ninja. Lee works his ass off and can only open 6 gates, it's not like you can just use it if you want to. I also think that if both of them opened the same number of gates they'd probably be about equally strong.

On March 20 2014 07:27 Salteador Neo wrote:
That was Lee vs Gaara all over again lol xD

On March 20 2014 07:13 AsnSensation wrote:
Remember when 8 gates supposedly "took you to hokage level"? well all 5 kages got absolutely roflstomped by non sage madara and Gai is actually giving him a hard time.

MIGHT GUY BABY !

On March 20 2014 08:16 AsnSensation wrote:


you're right, the original translation was beyond hokage level
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-90-10/naruto/chapter-85.html still a bit strange that he's stronger than 5x Kage vs an opponent that just got a tailed beasts powerup though but then I again I'm all aboard the Gai Hypetrain.

Your second point makes no sense though, someone activating 8 gates, it's a given that he's a strong ninja. Lee works his ass off and can only open 6 gates, it's not like you can just use it if you want to. I also think that if both of them opened the same number of gates they'd probably be about equally strong.

On March 20 2014 12:45 Forikorder wrote:
i dont think his 8 gate is done yet, we dont know how long it actually lasts he might be able to keep it up as long as hes fighting but the second he stops he keels over

On March 20 2014 13:48 Fumanchu wrote:
I think anyone with even a little bit of training can OPEN the gates. It's just a matter of being able to withstand the intense pain that comes along with using it. It puts a ton of stress on the body. When Lee fought gaara his muscles ripped right before he opened the fifth gate and he still managed to get off his final technique. And when Gai fought Kisame, he was in an incredible amount of pain, yet kisame barely damaged him.

I always figured that any ninja worth a damn could open them, it just took an intense amount of training to withstand the pain in order to carry out the moves associated with each gate level. And if you could use ninjutsu, why bother with a technique that's going to leave you completely incapacitated after its use?

On March 20 2014 13:48 Fumanchu wrote:
I think anyone with even a little bit of training can OPEN the gates. It's just a matter of being able to withstand the intense pain that comes along with using it. It puts a ton of stress on the body. When Lee fought gaara his muscles ripped right before he opened the fifth gate and he still managed to get off his final technique. And when Gai fought Kisame, he was in an incredible amount of pain, yet kisame barely damaged him.

I always figured that any ninja worth a damn could open them, it just took an intense amount of training to withstand the pain in order to carry out the moves associated with each gate level. And if you could use ninjutsu, why bother with a technique that's going to leave you completely incapacitated after its use?

On March 20 2014 15:41 BigFan wrote:

I dunno tbh. As mentioned, lee can only open 6 gates now and I reckon he's been training hardcore to be able to open all 8. Also, Gai told lee(or was it gai's father to gai) that it took 20 years to get to the level required and such. Maybe you can open several at best but doubt you'll get anywhere near Gai or Lee's level without making it your main focus and such.

On March 20 2014 15:57 GettingIt wrote:


I agree, otherwise it would make sense for the top ninjas in the world (i.e. hokages) to open gates whenever they go all out.

On March 20 2014 08:16 AsnSensation wrote:


you're right, the original translation was beyond hokage level
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-90-10/naruto/chapter-85.html still a bit strange that he's stronger than 5x Kage vs an opponent that just got a tailed beasts powerup though but then I again I'm all aboard the Gai Hypetrain.

Your second point makes no sense though, someone activating 8 gates, it's a given that he's a strong ninja. Lee works his ass off and can only open 6 gates, it's not like you can just use it if you want to. I also think that if both of them opened the same number of gates they'd probably be about equally strong.

On March 20 2014 18:04 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Wait, did Dai really invent the technique?

I thought it was one of those "ancient techniques" or forbidden techniques that is also difficult to master?

Because Madara clearly knows what it is and we don't even know of anyone during his timeline to have used a technique of that nature.

Plus, if someone of Dai's caliber did develop it, how did he know the number of gates were only 8 and that it would lead to death? There must be a reference somewhere for it (although maybe destroyed and it became a passed down technique (almost like a bloodline technique/limit).

Also, was Gai really someone who isn't able to use ninjitsu? I only thought that was Dai and Lee's case? Gai for me was able to use ninjitsu but his focus is mainly on taijutsu as he wanted to inherit his "dad's will", but it by no means meant he was a dunce at ninjitsu. He wouldn't be a jounin if he was.

The technique also appears to be something that needs mastery of "one self" in terms of the physical and not reliant on "chakra molding" and efficiency. Hence the focus on physical training not only to build strength but as some pointed out, resistance to pain to "fight through" the release of the technique.

My two cents.