EPTWhat Are You Reading 2014 - Page 23
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
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ThomasjServo
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MagmaPunch
Bulgaria536 Posts
On April 24 2014 22:02 ThomasjServo wrote: I need to go back to Ray Bradbury, I really wrote off 451 in my 10th grade English class. MagmaPunch, you should check out Phillip K Dick, if you liked 451. I surely will  Thank you for the recommendation. | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
On April 24 2014 20:23 leibniz wrote: In fact Michel Foucault once pointed out to a well known analytic philosopher John Searle that he actually writes incomprehensibly on purpose so that he can gain respect at his university. For the love of god please source this. Edit: More easily found than expected. Very funny stuff, and easily believed! | ||
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farvacola
United States18822 Posts
With Derrida, you can hardly misread him, because he’s so obscure. Every time you say, “He says so and so,” he always says, “You misunderstood me.” But if you try to figure out the correct interpretation, then that’s not so easy. I once said this to Michel Foucault, who was more hostile to Derrida even than I am, and Foucault said that Derrida practiced the method of obscurantisme terroriste (terrorism of obscurantism). We were speaking French. And I said, “What the hell do you mean by that?” And he said, “He writes so obscurely you can’t tell what he’s saying, that’s the obscurantism part, and then when you criticize him, he can always say, ‘You didn’t understand me; you’re an idiot.’ That’s the terrorism part.” And I like that. So I wrote an article about Derrida. I asked Michel if it was OK if I quoted that passage, and he said yes. Foucault was often lumped with Derrida. That’s very unfair to Foucault. He was a different caliber of thinker altogether. So yeah, you could write off all pomo thinkers as though they were the same, but that'd make you pretty stupid. Source | ||
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Surth
Germany456 Posts
Firstly, Baudrillard is the most important philosopher of the 20th century. Fuck Wittgenstein, fuck Chomsky (lol), fuck Searle, Sartre and Singer. Baudrillard is where its at. So much for the "all french post-modernists are gay". no they aint. Secondly, Derrida, for all his obscurantism, is making points about the nature of language in a way that can only be made in this way -- this is to say, he is forming concentric circles around the truth because there is no way to actually get to that particular truth in any real way. Derrida's obscurantism is a necessity. Anyway, the jury is still out on deleuze. I'll get back to you in a year, because an awful lot of other shit has smuggled its way into my curriculum and i dont have the time for it right now  | ||
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farvacola
United States18822 Posts
Edit: Except for that bit about Wittgenstein, but I'll agree to disagree there  | ||
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Surth
Germany456 Posts
Anyway, just baught Jose Carlos Somoza - The riddle of the philosopher. I have no idea what to expect, but it was like 3 euros and i usually like spanish/south american literature | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
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bookwyrm
United States722 Posts
Just remember: some of them have useful things to say, all of them are assholes. This is a bit ridiculous though: Firstly, Baudrillard is the most important philosopher of the 20th century. Because the more important philosopher of the 20th century is Yogi Berra. On April 24 2014 22:02 ThomasjServo wrote: MagmaPunch, you should check out Phillip K Dick, if you liked 451. Seconded, and you don't even need the conditional | ||
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ThomasjServo
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bookwyrm
United States722 Posts
On April 25 2014 04:55 ThomasjServo wrote: PKD is the man, no life is complete without having read, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep I am going out with a girl who doesn't realize she likes science fiction yet, I think I am going to give her that one | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.fantasybookreview.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/malazan-books.jpg) I've only now just started, and I'm really happy only few chapters. I'm told that it's similar to A Song of Ice and Fire, which I read while trailing behind the show. It already seems very different but it has already peaked my interest. I'll also read The Black Company by Glen Cook, also because I'm told it's similar to GoT in some ways. ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/97/The_Black_Company.jpg) I'm also thinking about reading the "Culture" series from Iain M. Banks ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Banksphlebas.jpg) Has anybody read this? The concept seems to be really interesting. Outside of LOTR and Harry Potter, I've never been a big reader in my free time. I read much every day for work and for school that when I have free time, I don't usually feel like reading, as it kind of usually feels like work. I've acquired a bit of a taste for it lately and I'm looking for stuff to read. Preferably something that gets interesting fast... none of that "read the first 7200 pages and then it'll get interesting" crap. I recognize that it's a thing but I'll get bored and give up. So yeah I'm open to suggestions - I'm mostly interested in fantasy, sci fi and preferably politically driven stories with some depth. I love power struggles, coups, possibly alternate universes with realistic human dynamics... Cheers I also read those books in English, my second language, so if the prose is crazy I'll get lost. Thanks | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
Also I'm obviously on the continental side ! | ||
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bookwyrm
United States722 Posts
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Stormlight Archive (2 books) Mistborn (4 books) Kingkiller Chronicles (2 books) Audiobook by Rupert Degas is the best performance i've ever heard. i enjoy a lot of audiobook while working and i get put off by many because of the narrator, Rupert Degas narrating Kingkiller Chronicles was the best audiobook i've ever heard. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On April 25 2014 01:30 Surth wrote: I call bunk. Firstly, Baudrillard is the most important philosopher of the 20th century. Fuck Wittgenstein, fuck Chomsky (lol), fuck Searle, Sartre and Singer. Baudrillard is where its at. So much for the "all french post-modernists are gay". no they aint. Secondly, Derrida, for all his obscurantism, is making points about the nature of language in a way that can only be made in this way -- this is to say, he is forming concentric circles around the truth because there is no way to actually get to that particular truth in any real way. Derrida's obscurantism is a necessity. Anyway, the jury is still out on deleuze. I'll get back to you in a year, because an awful lot of other shit has smuggled its way into my curriculum and i dont have the time for it right now All those shots fired. I was going to make a rage post, but you are disturbingly correct about Derrida, although it still does not change the fact that he is an obscurantism in a very unflattering way. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
This is just wayyy too farcical. We gonna need more people like him for the comic relief alone. | ||
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Surth
Germany456 Posts
That Jose Carlos Samoza book feels pretty boring so far, thats what I get for buying random authors Ive never heard of for 3 euros. I suppose I really just want more Cortazar and Bolano and so I'll feel inevitably disappointed by every other author ;( Re: Science Fiction: Go for the Stanislaw Lem, man! Adventure, detective, hard sci-fi, philosophical sci-fi, he's got it all! Maybe you can also pick up a reader of Sci-Fi short stories to get a good look at a lot of authors quickly and then decide whose style you like the most. | ||
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