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Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
April 13 2014 19:58 GMT
#421
On April 13 2014 05:01 xarchaosx wrote:


What did you think of the Deleuze? I read that earlier this year but haven't ever really stumbled upon anyone else that has read Cinema 2 prior to seeing this.


Only about 3 chapters in so far, and I don't understand shit, lol. A friend explained the gist of deleuzian philosophy to me, so i kinda get what he's trying to get at, but damn, that prose.
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
April 13 2014 20:04 GMT
#422
Book Log
+ Show Spoiler +

And my first book for this year, Love and Math:
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This was a birthday gift from my parents and I’m halfway in. It’s partly a biography of a young mathematician overcoming discrimination and finding his passion in soviet Russia. The other part is a sort of an explanation as to why he enjoys math so much. I find the biographical element really interesting, but so far the math has not been terribly engaging. I understand that he’s trying to avoid the kind of nitty gritty detail that makes people hate math in school, but it often leaves me feeling like it hasn’t really been explained. We’ll see how the rest goes.

Happy New Year Folks!

Finished: Love and Math
This book could have been 2 books, one of which I would gladly read, and one of which I would gladly leave on the shelf. The far more interesting part of this book was the biography of the author, who beat the odds and anti-semitism of his home country (soviet russia) to become a mathemetician. His story of working on mathematical discoveries as a side job and sneaking into the best university to read papers and attend lectures, was compelling and interesting.

On the other had his presentation of mathematics was largely boring. I get what feels like a real sense of the passion that he has for math, but I find that his descriptions are too general for me to feel like they've been really explained. Part of my distaste may also stem from the fact that I don't find discussion of these sorts of concepts that interesting to begin with, so it would take a lot for the author to win me over.

I would recommend the book to someone who really enjoys abstract math, but otherwise just get a good biography instead.

Next I'm going to read The Stranger
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Since a lot of people on here seem to like it (I'm looking at you corumjhaelen). Should be good!


Finished: The Stranger
Excellent book. I had read a little bit of existentialism before this, so I wasn't unprepared for the content. That said the presentation was great. I really loved the descriptions of the protagonist just experiencing life in the moment. I don't think I need to give a detailed review of this book since half of the people here seem to have read it but, 5/5 would binge read again.


I ditched sixty stories because it didn't look very good in the library (sorry sam). Instead I picked up This Side of Paradise
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I've heard from some that it is actually better than gatsby. Should be good.


Finished: This Side of Paradise
Quite a good book. My major criticism is that the plot doesn't move very well, but otherwise the writing is excellent. The portrait of a lost young man hits close to home.

decided to pick up the screenplay, The Seventh Seal
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I've always wanted to see the movie, but never have. My uncle gave me the book. Should be good!


Finished: The Seventh Seal
Pretty short, but also pretty good. Really left me wanting to see the movie. I also enjoyed the mildly existential overtones. Not a whole lot to say about this other than that the imagery was amazing and the story itself was the good kind of heavy.

On the topic of existential overtones, I picked up
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except in its The Fall because I'm reading the English version (even I'm not that pompous). Should be good!

Finished: The Fall
Another excellent book. I'm genuinely sorry that I didn't start reading Camus' work earlier after having read this. I found the narrative style really cool (always being talked to about the past, makes it seem like an oral history). I also enjoyed the wholehearted endorsement of brothels in this book, all of my friends enjoyed hearing about the feeling of satisfaction that comes from lying drunk between 2 sleeping prostitutes. Great book.

I picked up Across the River and Into the Trees
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because I'm on a quest to read everything that hemingway ever wrote. Should be good!

Finished: Across the River and Into the Trees
This book was quite good. The standard stiff drinks, beautiful women, and maimed soldiers that I've come to expect from Hemingway. I think this book was interesting because of the extent to which his warriors were removed from their war. It reminded me a lot of some of the Nick Adams stories in that the colonel finds that he can never really escape his profession. A good read if you want a more hipstery selection of Hemingway's work.

Speaking of hipstery, I've picked for my next book The Torrents of Spring.
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Its Hemingway's first piece of published fiction, and that last of Hemingway's non-posthumous novels that I haven't read. Should be good.

Forgot to update, but a few days ago I Finished: The Torrents of Spring
This book was sort of weird. To me it seemed that Hemingway was poking fun at some of the tropes of "lost generation" writing. His characters make numerous references to Paris although they have been there only briefly and many have a massive admiration for continental culture that they don't actually understand. They also tend to heavily overvalue "authentic living" (one his characters prasies pump making factories for about a page and a half), and Hemingway includes numerous asides about his current position in the world of professional writing.

It was enjoyable, but a bit strange since it was written before a lot of the works that it seems to mock, and many of the tropes that it pokes fun at are employed in his later works.

Anyway, for something new and interesting, I picked up a 110 year old copy of The Count of Montecristo.
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Should be good.

Finished: The Count of Monte Cristo (Vol 1)
Holy shit, there are 2 volumes O_o

That said, this book as been really fun, I like the adventure feeling and the verbal smack-downs from the count. Its kind of interesting as well to see what the attitudes were toward things like medicine and race at the time. The second volume is supposed to be rife with vegeance, so I can't wait to pick that up, but first an interlude.

I picked up Moonraker
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Its one of the Bond books that I haven't yet read since it wasn't in the anthology that I had. Can't wait to get my spy novel fix!


Finished: Moonraker
The book was pretty good. I was super busy this last week so it took me a while to read, but I really did enjoy it. I thought it was kind of interesting in this book to see how little the Bond of the book is like Bond in the movies + Show Spoiler +
I've written about this before, but there is very little shooting and fighting. Mostly Bond plays cards, snoops around, and hits on any woman in the vicinity. I don't think he even fires his gun in this moive
. That said, it was quite nice.

Picked up Count of Monte Cristo: Part 2
Should be good.
dreaming of a sunny day
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
April 13 2014 20:34 GMT
#423
Some of my friends have been reading Cinema 2, they have tended to like it. I don't know how much they understood, though.
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
April 13 2014 20:40 GMT
#424
Lol bookwyrm, nice one^^ I'll let her read it first, I have tons of other stuff waiting. Still a bit sad obviously.
One of my friend hated it, but given his outlook on cinema and theory, I'm not surprised. He does think he's slightly better than Bazin though. Personnally, my experience with Deleuze's theorizing has been pretty bad (his book on Nietzsche, god...), but his book on Proust was amazing.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
April 13 2014 21:12 GMT
#425
As obnoxious as it is, I keep coming back to Anti-Oedipus. Looking forward to reading Mille Plateaux sometime soonish...
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
xarchaosx
Profile Joined February 2012
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 02:58:46
April 14 2014 02:54 GMT
#426
On April 14 2014 04:58 Surth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:01 xarchaosx wrote:


What did you think of the Deleuze? I read that earlier this year but haven't ever really stumbled upon anyone else that has read Cinema 2 prior to seeing this.


Only about 3 chapters in so far, and I don't understand shit, lol. A friend explained the gist of deleuzian philosophy to me, so i kinda get what he's trying to get at, but damn, that prose.

Hahaha I know what you are saying, I guess that I have a better background in what he's discussing coming off of reading Phenomenology of Perception by Merleau-Ponty but I guarantee you that once you get down his terminology that it will get better. The ending of Time-Image has some great ideas that I wish were incorporated into more films. It's fun if you look in modern films for these ideas at the end, also it really helps to understand it! But alas, films Deleuze would like nowadays are few and far between.

His ideas become much more clear if you look at modern films to apply his theories unless you have some extensive knowledge of foreign films. I personally recommend looking at The Tree of Life directed by Malick as a jumping off point. It is a damn near perfect version of the experimental filming that enamored Deleuze
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
April 14 2014 08:49 GMT
#427
It's funny that you would say that, because the same friend who recommended cinema 2 to me did so because we had a discussion about The Tree of Life, and how terrible I found it to be, and he tried to explain to me (though moreso through heidegger than through deleuze) how tree of life "short-circuits" representation, and I was like "bullshit mate ain't nobody short-circuiting representation this is just malick being a drunk fuck and wishing he would have been cool enough to make 2001" and he was like "jeez surth you gotta get your head out of your representational ass."
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
April 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#428
LOL
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
April 14 2014 18:31 GMT
#429
Rofl. Have you seen his preceding movies Surth ? I don't see the link with Heidegger and Deleuze, but I wouldn't question Malick's intent because I think there is a clear direction to the way he's evolved formally. I much prefer his older self though, but more for errr, scenaristic reasons I guess.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-14 18:37:33
April 14 2014 18:36 GMT
#430
I recently finished Paolo Bacigalupi's "The Windup Girl". Normally I don't participate in threads like this but I really want to share just how good the book is. The writing, the characters, the conception, the world (so called "bio-punk"), last but not least the plot and the story.... I give 10/10 to every aspect of the novel. Must-read to everyone who's into fiction. It's been a while since I last read something that good.
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
April 15 2014 13:09 GMT
#431
Are you a fan of that counsellor of Tiberius ?^^
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Homage to Catalonia. Fucking brilliant so far, and so fucking sad :/
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 20:57:20
April 15 2014 20:52 GMT
#432
It's ok Franco won lol.

edit: his books about Burma and being a bum in London and Paris are okay too.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
April 15 2014 21:00 GMT
#433
You don't wonder why when you read this.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 12:43:52
April 16 2014 09:41 GMT
#434
It is very important to read his books when you are still a teenager or a young adult to not make the same mistakes than him.

- Being a bum is not good. Even if you want to write a book about your experience it is not worth because Orwell already wrote it.

- Being a grunt in a colonized third world country is not fun, especially if you are not actually fighting (Orwell wouldn't have liked the experience even if he was fighting anyways lol).

- Being a "freedom" fighter with little naive ideas about democracy, Human rights and stuff is a recipe for disaster when the real insurgents show up, aka "Western anarcho-commie and his little ideals meeting the true commies of the 30's (i.e: Stalinists)".
Same stuff with Syria nowadays. Every little Western supporter of the revolution against Assad would crap their pants if they had to deal with the real insurgents (i.e: Al-Qaeda goons).

edit: If Orwell was living today he would be an A-stan vet who lived as a bum in Montreal and NY and fought in Syria against the Assad regime lol. What a life lol !
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
April 18 2014 19:58 GMT
#435
I think this book is going to piss me off, but I'm reading it anyway.

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si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 19 2014 16:14 GMT
#436
Zizek fans please.

This book is up next
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9111 Posts
April 20 2014 02:15 GMT
#437
On April 20 2014 01:14 Shiragaku wrote:
Zizek fans please.

This book is up next
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I'm reading this right now too! About 200 pages in, liking it so far.
123Gurke
Profile Joined January 2005
France154 Posts
April 21 2014 19:28 GMT
#438
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A biography of the whole Bach family before and after Johann Sebastian. Very interesting.
"No," she said, "but sometimes I like to watch."
leibniz
Profile Joined April 2014
New Zealand1 Post
April 24 2014 11:23 GMT
#439
On April 14 2014 04:58 Surth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 05:01 xarchaosx wrote:


What did you think of the Deleuze? I read that earlier this year but haven't ever really stumbled upon anyone else that has read Cinema 2 prior to seeing this.


Only about 3 chapters in so far, and I don't understand shit, lol. A friend explained the gist of deleuzian philosophy to me, so i kinda get what he's trying to get at, but damn, that prose.


It's a good sign that you don't understand it, because most of the work from french and other continental philosophers is completely incomprehensible and is not real philosophy but pseudo philosophy. In fact Michel Foucault once pointed out to a well known analytic philosopher John Searle that he actually writes incomprehensibly on purpose so that he can gain respect at his university. I mean how idiotic is that? Why would a group of people deliberately try to make no sense? It shows that they don't care about helping people learn.

It pains me to see so many people get drawn into this stuff. I've wasted a lot of time trying to understand this stuff in the past.



Read recently:

The democracy project, by David Graeber

Really good book, David Graeber is an anthropologist and was an activist in the OWS movement and other direction action, and has some pretty good insights into what democracy is, and good insights on the OWS movement as well. He also wrote: Debt, the first 5000 years.

Also read an anthology of anarchism. pretty dense book i wouldn't recommend unless your super interested in anarchism. This will give you a brief intro to every anarchist thinker and revolt from mid 1800's to 1936.
Also read that homage to Catalonia. Was decent.

reading atm:
Debunking economics
MagmaPunch
Profile Joined November 2011
Bulgaria536 Posts
April 24 2014 11:45 GMT
#440
Finished :
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Half through :
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Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
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