Main Protagonist: Kudo Shinichi (Jimmy Kudo) / Edogawa Conan
Case Closed, known as Detective Conan (名探偵コナン Meitantei Konan?) in Japan, is a Japanese detective manga series written and illustrated by Gosho Aoyama. The series is serialized in Shogakukan's Weekly Shōnen Sunday since January 19, 1994, and has been collected in 81 tankōbon volumes as of June 2013. Due to legal considerations with the name Detective Conan, the English language release was renamed Case Closed. The story follows the adventures of Jimmy Kudo, a prodigious young detective who was inadvertently transformed into a child after being poisoned.
Jimmy Kudo is a high school detective who helps the police solve cases. During an investigation, he is attacked by Gin and Vodka who belong to a syndicate known as the Black Organization. They force him to ingest an experimental poison called APTX 4869 to kill him without leaving evidence. A rare side-effect of the poison, however, transforms him into a child instead of killing him. Adopting the pseudonym Conan Edogawa, Kudo hides his identity to investigate the Black Organization. Dr. Agasa places Jimmy in the care of his childhood friend Rachel Moore, and her father Richard Moore who runs a Detective agency. Throughout the series, Conan interacts and befriends many characters with the most notable being: The Tokyo Metropolitan Police, the local police in Conan's prefecture; The Junior Detective League, a group of children who solves mysteries for their clients; The FBI and Harley Hartwell, a high school detective in Osaka who knows of his true identity.
Sent PM of where to find anime subs. You can find sub info in the dctp.ws forums easily.
If there's one manga/anime that I will make sure I remember no matter what even when I'm 90 years old, gray, and dying, that is Detective Conan. I freaking love DC. Anything and everything about it. Aoyama Gosho is an absolute genius. What I wouldn't give to be able to fly to Japan and meet Aoyama Gosho in person just so I could thank him for creating this wonderful series. I still remember setting up my VCR every single night to record Detective Conan (Case Closed) when it briefly played in the US on Adult Swim. I remember how ecstatic I was when my brother found a website for me where I could download all the DC episodes and watch with Korean subtitles. I remember how overjoyed I was when I went to Korea for summer vacation in 2007 and I got to spend hours every single day just watching Detective Conan on television. I remember how kickass it was when I found out that DC actually had movie adaptations of the series.
I'm seriously hoping we have some DC fans here on TL I also hope more DC fans will come to be as a result of this thread. Hopefully we'll get at least 100+ pages on this thread. Detective Conan all the way~!
I just recently read all the chapters again took me like 4-5 days. The only thing negative about the manga is that the main story progesses relatively slowly T_T
On October 25 2013 13:59 Chexx wrote: I just recently read all the chapters again took me like 4-5 days. The only thing negative about the manga is that the main story progesses relatively slowly T_T
On October 25 2013 13:59 Chexx wrote: I just recently read all the chapters again took me like 4-5 days. The only thing negative about the manga is that the main story progesses relatively slowly T_T
This for me too. I've stopped reading most of the side cases now, I only read when the story involves the BO or Ai.
On October 25 2013 13:59 Chexx wrote: I just recently read all the chapters again took me like 4-5 days. The only thing negative about the manga is that the main story progesses relatively slowly T_T
This for me too. I've stopped reading most of the side cases now, I only read when the story involves the BO or Ai.
Well it not suppose to have any real plot, it is a detective manga. The entire series basically doesnt really matter, you are just there for the interesting mystery/cases. Dont expect any plot progression for another 1000 chapter. Think of the series as an episode of Scooby Doo.
I haven't read the manga (I'm assuming you'd recommend it) but I absolutely LOVE the anime. I've only seen dubbed episodes but they have been incredible. I think I have the first... 140 on an external hard drive. I'd love to see more (as I know there's a ton more) but I don't know whether its been translated or how I would even manage to get it. What a fucking incredible show though. I am really picky about my anime (I don't like practically any) and I would put Case Closed at the very top of my list.
On October 25 2013 14:49 Witten wrote: I haven't read the manga (I'm assuming you'd recommend it) but I absolutely LOVE the anime. I've only seen dubbed episodes but they have been incredible. I think I have the first... 140 on an external hard drive. I'd love to see more (as I know there's a ton more) but I don't know whether its been translated or how I would even manage to get it. What a fucking incredible show though. I am really picky about my anime (I don't like practically any) and I would put Case Closed at the very top of my list.
Read the manga up until like 50 volume and than I was like there are only so many way to kill people with strings and stuff, plus the extremely slow plot move. It get repetitive after a while but I really enjoyed it. Great manga and Sherry is my fav character woot!
I absolutely loved it when it was running on Adult Swim back in the day. I was sad when it got taken out of the regular lineup and still remember some episodes after years. Detective Conan taught me how to stab myself hard in the back with a knife. Where else can you learn information like that?
A few years ago I looked into the series online and then learned how many episodes there really are. And unfortunately, there's still no ending to the story. Each individual episode is good, but I prefer animes that have an ending or are constantly progressing towards a defined ending like One Piece. So I'm waiting for the series to end (someday?) and then I'll marathon the whole series over a few weeks. I hate hanging onto series for years without closure because sometimes the series suddenly disappears without a real ending.
I am almost 500 episodes into the anime and it's still fantastic! I watched it on TV when I was a little kid and it was seriously the best. Started watching it on and off during high school it still hasn't lost its charm for me even though the story progression is really slow. I don't really know everything about it yet (I don't read manga) but I'm definitely a big big fan :D
I too got hooked on the series when it aired on Adult Swim, but have actually picked up the series again though I tend to skip a quite a bit to get to the more interesting episodes. It is kind of a shame the series seems like it will never end with it being a floating timeline where Conan never grows older and there being endless cases. The Black Organization episodes are great where they do and do not get closer to catching the big bad guys. The same can also be said for every special even the relationship ones it does and doesn't advance.
This manga is the best I've ever read, and probably will remain so. For Aoyama Gosho to think of numerous insane cases to keep us entertained for hundreds of chapters until now is truly magnificent. I'm still getting goosebumps everytime Kid, Gin or Vodka show up in a chapter. The anime adaption is very well-made also, which is rare for such a huge series like this.
Overall Detective Conan is perfect. The only downside I can think of is that the Black Org. has relatively few scenes (which is understandable, considering how slow the story progresses) and the English-translated names (I can't bring myself to say Jimmy Kudo or Rachel Moore, they just don't sound right. Shinichi Kudo and Ran Mori all the way xD)
I've been thinking of going back and rewatching all the plot-relevant episodes. The plot-relevant episodes are amazing, but I've been getting tired of all the filler. Makes me forget so many things that happened.
On October 25 2013 16:02 Souma wrote: I've been thinking of going back and rewatching all the plot-relevant episodes. The plot-relevant episodes are amazing, but I've been getting tired of all the filler. Makes me forget so many things that happened.
The thing is which plot because there are about 12 running side stories that are varying levels of interesting.
I feel like the mangaka lost his magic after around vol 40 of the manga. Most of the stories just feel like fillers, I only buy it because it was an important part of my childhood, and there is only one volume a few months.
On October 25 2013 16:52 Garnet wrote: I feel like the mangaka lost his magic after around vol 40 of the manga. Most of the stories just feel like fillers, I only buy it because it was an important part of my childhood, and there is only one volume a few months.
I think there has been one significant plot section(re:BO) in about 200 episodes which is an unusually long time even for Gosho.
Love the anime but stopped watching after those fucks(FUNimation Entertainment) forced them(DCTP) to stop subbing them. Not like everyone lives in NA, right?
On October 25 2013 17:04 Lucumo wrote: Love the anime but stopped watching after those fucks(FUNimation Entertainment) forced them(DCTP) to stop subbing them. Not like everyone lives in NA, right?
At least they still subbed the movie. I believe they released the 16th one awhile ago.
On October 25 2013 16:52 Garnet wrote: I feel like the mangaka lost his magic after around vol 40 of the manga. Most of the stories just feel like fillers, I only buy it because it was an important part of my childhood, and there is only one volume a few months.
Yeah, there's only a volume per 3 or 4 months in our country, which is such a long time to wait (And I admit, I buy it for the same reason as you, although I've already read all the chapters online ). I've always enjoyed the filler cases, but I must agree that Gosho should focus more on the main story right now, too much side stories are never good (I quit reading Naruto because of that)
On October 25 2013 17:04 Lucumo wrote: Love the anime but stopped watching after those fucks(FUNimation Entertainment) forced them(DCTP) to stop subbing them. Not like everyone lives in NA, right?
On October 25 2013 18:46 JonIrenicus wrote: May I ask how the people are able to enjoy this series, which uses "tricks" that surely are not realistic? I know it is a cartoon and the degree of "realistic" may vary, but it is really unpleasant to see Mr.Richard moore fall always and then Conan solving everything without anyone asking for Moore's weird behaviour. Oh well...
well that is the fun of it. I totally enjoyed this when I was much younger, and I still do now. I do ask questions about the realistic aspect of the manga like yours when I read it now, but who cares seriously? Most of the manga/anime out there have the unrealistic aspects but that is not the main point. The main point here is how the cases are solved, which is pretty damn amazing and innovative. Who solves it doesn't matter.
To the main topic, welp the fillers make the whole thing quite boring after a while. I hope the main story can progress a little bit faster, although I can't even think of a proper way for Conan to get back his body, if it ever happens at all T_T
i remember being pretty surprised when i watched detective conan back in the day for liking it and some episodes being pretty fucking eerie (decapitated murder victim)
This is one of my favourite for sure. I really enjoy it when he is batting out with Kaido Kid and Hattori haha. I don't exactly enjoy those 1 episode filler, some are really bad imo. The Baker Street Movie is probably the best <3
Oh boy, I have more than 50 Detective Conan volumes on my shelf... One thing that I like is that sometimes I can even guess who the culprit is.
Some curiosities! 1 Ai was supposed to be introduced early in the story, but the editor suggested Aoyama to delay. And that's the reason why he created Heiji Hattori! Iirc the anime fucks up a little because they had showed Ai's sister storyline as if she was a normal "culprit" for a "normal" case, so when Ai was introduced they basically had to remake a very similar episode... years have passed however so I can't be 100% sure.
2 When I was younger I used to count every episode that had snow in it. That's because if we excludes episode that have something to do with skiing, this is a good way to determine how many winters have passed since the start of the series! Considering that Ran still goes to high school, this implies two possible outcomes: -some cases are flashbacks from the past, or most likely -Ran and the kids must be terrible at school and keep repeating years ^^
3 There's a Detective Conan cameo in Takahashi's "InuYasha" (another work I used to read in the past): apparently he goes on Kagome's school! I still have to find if Kagome ever appeared in DC as a cameo.
On October 25 2013 18:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: really enjoy the series even with the slow plot movement.
especially the bi yearly cases that have kid in it.
I think the director once said he wanted to stop the series but the fans won't let him.
Kindaichi Case Files (another super popular detective anime/manga which is more realistic) had a special anime movie featuring both detectives working together.
personally I prefer Kindaichi Case Files because while the art work isn't that good, the stories are written by two of the better detective novel writers and so the story is more serious and interesting
I've been watching Conan for like 12+ years, every few months I'd randomly some episodes then hiatus for a while then repeat lol, I'm on like ~550 still not caught up, I think we're up to 700? xD
On October 25 2013 18:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: really enjoy the series even with the slow plot movement.
especially the bi yearly cases that have kid in it.
I think the director once said he wanted to stop the series but the fans won't let him.
Kindaichi Case Files (another super popular detective anime/manga which is more realistic) had a special anime movie featuring both detectives working together.
personally I prefer Kindaichi Case Files because while the art work isn't that good, the stories are written by two of the better detective novel writers and so the story is more serious and interesting
This one was really good but only like 12 chapters translated into English :< And I think chapters are missing in the translation. :<
On October 25 2013 18:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: really enjoy the series even with the slow plot movement.
especially the bi yearly cases that have kid in it.
I think the director once said he wanted to stop the series but the fans won't let him.
Kindaichi Case Files (another super popular detective anime/manga which is more realistic) had a special anime movie featuring both detectives working together.
personally I prefer Kindaichi Case Files because while the art work isn't that good, the stories are written by two of the better detective novel writers and so the story is more serious and interesting
Happy to see Kindaichi Case Files getting mentioned. I also found it more enjoyable and is sad that there doesn't seem to be much recognition (because there isn't much translation done?).
Loved it as a kid. Been thinking of getting into it again, but I don't have the time. I have a list of plot relevant episodes + good non-plot relevant episodes (no idea how accurate it is though), so I might just go with that some day.
Now that I think about it, would be cool if they made something like Dragonball Kai for Conan.
That's not gonna happen lol. With Detective Conan you can just skip the irrelevant episodes. In DBZ, there were bits and pieces in every dragged out episode so you had to go through each episode. =_=
I'm currently downloading the plot-relevant episodes. ^^
On October 26 2013 05:59 Souma wrote: That's not gonna happen lol. With Detective Conan you can just skip the irrelevant episodes. In DBZ, there were bits and pieces in every dragged out episode so you had to go through each episode. =_=
I'm currently downloading the plot-relevant episodes. ^^
I said this earlier but which plot because there are about 12 of them and honestly things that don't involve one of those 12 plots are probably around only 200 of the 760 episodes. Granted I have not seen it since DCTP stopped translating but I can safely say of around the first 600 odd episodes you probably could only cut out a small portion of them.
I never completely fell for the show because there were so many riddles based on the japanese language which kind of sucks if you don't know Japanese. Also how much time has passed since the very first episode? Neither Conan nor his friends have grown an inch, last time I checked. One of the best detectives in the world and he doesn't find that mysterious?
back when i followed conan haibara's story is so much more interesting than ran. the author was teasing a haibara route for a while then idk what happened to it. for shame
Kindaichi and Detective Academy Q are both amazing detective manga too. Gosho Aoyama's previous work, Yaiba, is a great fighting manga. I highly recommend it. You can see Mr. Aoyama is also very good at drawing fighting scenes.
On October 26 2013 05:59 Souma wrote: That's not gonna happen lol. With Detective Conan you can just skip the irrelevant episodes. In DBZ, there were bits and pieces in every dragged out episode so you had to go through each episode. =_=
I'm currently downloading the plot-relevant episodes. ^^
I said this earlier but which plot because there are about 12 of them and honestly things that don't involve one of those 12 plots are probably around only 200 of the 760 episodes. Granted I have not seen it since DCTP stopped translating but I can safely say of around the first 600 odd episodes you probably could only cut out a small portion of them.
Nah lol all the major plot episodes/side plot episodes put together is less than 1/4 of the series tbh
On October 26 2013 05:59 Souma wrote: That's not gonna happen lol. With Detective Conan you can just skip the irrelevant episodes. In DBZ, there were bits and pieces in every dragged out episode so you had to go through each episode. =_=
I'm currently downloading the plot-relevant episodes. ^^
I said this earlier but which plot because there are about 12 of them and honestly things that don't involve one of those 12 plots are probably around only 200 of the 760 episodes. Granted I have not seen it since DCTP stopped translating but I can safely say of around the first 600 odd episodes you probably could only cut out a small portion of them.
Nah lol all the major plot episodes/side plot episodes put together is less than 1/4 of the series tbh
yeah but i mean does this matter? i didnt watch/read conan for any kind of main plot?! I really dont think that matters in this specific case :D
There is a HUGE Arabic sub community for Detective Conan. The Anime started getting dubbed in the late 90s but then the dubbing process started getting much slower. So a group of people started subbing episodes and now there's this insane Arabic forum dedicated to Conan. One of my favorite series ever, never gets old <3!
Still buying Conan tankobon out of habit since 1996 lol. I wonder how many volumes does it take to get back to the plot again after revealing Akai on the train
On October 26 2013 13:23 NB wrote: what year is this? my sister read this manga while im in elementary learning how to count. now she is married and im last years college.
Its almost 20 years old now and I am pretty sure the plot is not ending anytime soon.
I pretty much have the entire series on my computer, and I have a separate folder where it's *only* plot-related stories, and it's seriously like 1/3rd the length. (keep in mind that this is still roughly 30 volumes of manga, *after* abbreviation)
On October 26 2013 15:23 Funnytoss wrote: I pretty much have the entire series on my computer, and I have a separate folder where it's *only* plot-related stories, and it's seriously like 1/3rd the length. (keep in mind that this is still roughly 30 volumes of manga, *after* abbreviation)
Like I said earlier only plot relevant ones (and even deciding those is hard since they make new plots all the time) would still constitute the second longest show I think I have ever watched (full DBZ being first).
On October 26 2013 15:58 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who prefers the manga over the anime huh?
I watch like 2% of anime that I have its original manga (18 years of reading manga btw). Even for the like of DBZ, I only watched things that are not on paper
On October 26 2013 15:58 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who prefers the manga over the anime huh?
I will avoid reading the manga's of anything with action in it because those are best animated (and other stuff like Hunter x Hunter is just some of the worst drawing I have ever seen in my life) but I can appreciate both. I started reading the manga when DCTP stopped subbing the anime and think its a very comparable experience but for some reason I just prefer the animated DC.
On October 26 2013 13:23 NB wrote: what year is this? my sister read this manga while im in elementary learning how to count. now she is married and im last years college.
Its almost 20 years old now and I am pretty sure the plot is not ending anytime soon.
its definently moving to the conclusion at least, the mysterys have gotten pretty repetitive though
On October 26 2013 15:58 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who prefers the manga over the anime huh?
I prefer anime because I like movement and sounds. But because the anime is not as fast as the manga, right now I'm furiously trying to stay up to date by reading all the latest releases.
I feel like rereading the manga. I've only watched 600 episodes (I think) so it would be nice to refresh my memory. I don't know if I have the time though
On October 27 2013 18:34 EpiK wrote: oh man what a random thread considering how old this series is. I was so into the manga as a kid.. I should definitely reread them
I'm actually surprised a DC thread hadn't gone up sooner :/ This series is definitely worth pages and pages of discussion. Plot progression is slow, but when it does happen, all hell breaks loose Oo;;
Detective Conan episode 129 mind blown at how that one was solved. I generally have a pretty good read on how it was generally solved but wow this one is mind blowing. That tape recorder trick....although I kinda doubt it would work.
On October 27 2013 18:34 EpiK wrote: oh man what a random thread considering how old this series is. I was so into the manga as a kid.. I should definitely reread them
I'm actually surprised a DC thread hadn't gone up sooner :/ This series is definitely worth pages and pages of discussion. Plot progression is slow, but when it does happen, all hell breaks loose Oo;;
there are alot of mangas imo that deserve its own thread, yet dont have one
this show is old as hell. i used to watch it with my cousin when we were younger, we loved it! never saw it as a series though kinda just like stand alone episodes. gonna re watch it hopefully still good xD
I remember how ecstatic I was when my brother found a website for me where I could download all the DC episodes and watch with Korean subtitles.
You're welcome. Didn't know you still liked this series so much
I actually stopped caring about DC for a long time. But during early September, I found a website that had every single DC episode out there available, fully subbed and everything. I also started reading the manga again. So now my obsession is back and crazier than ever.
On October 28 2013 09:08 SheaR619 wrote: Detective Conan episode 129 mind blown at how that one was solved. I generally have a pretty good read on how it was generally solved but wow this one is mind blowing. That tape recorder trick....although I kinda doubt it would work.
Detective Conan is what got me into mangas and anime. I haven't kept up with it because of how much there is, but I have over 20 books that I've all read multiple times. I also used it to get quite a few of my friends in junior high into mangas.
On October 27 2013 18:34 EpiK wrote: oh man what a random thread considering how old this series is. I was so into the manga as a kid.. I should definitely reread them
I'm actually surprised a DC thread hadn't gone up sooner :/ This series is definitely worth pages and pages of discussion. Plot progression is slow, but when it does happen, all hell breaks loose Oo;;
we've had a fair number of threads and topics on it before but it was all before this newfangled trend of making nice organized centralized threads for everything so it was mostly 2 line OPs of "anyone else watch conan? this show is awesome"
I actually disagree with that list on the front if that is to appeal to a new viewer because that basically skips half the character introduction chapters like 3 where they introduce the idol who is a semi recurring character as well as the bowtie which is basically the most important gadget in the series. Episode 6 introduces Sonoko is probably in enough episodes now to be considered a main character and I only glossed over that by skipping every gadget introduction episode its going to be very confusing to a new viewer how for example he is able to knock out Mouri or how those shoes work as well as some others im sure I am forgetting.
On October 29 2013 20:59 Adreme wrote: I actually disagree with that list on the front if that is to appeal to a new viewer because that basically skips half the character introduction chapters like 3 where they introduce the idol who is a semi recurring character as well as the bowtie which is basically the most important gadget in the series. Episode 6 introduces Sonoko is probably in enough episodes now to be considered a main character and I only glossed over that by skipping every gadget introduction episode its going to be very confusing to a new viewer how for example he is able to knock out Mouri or how those shoes work as well as some others im sure I am forgetting.
You bring up a very good point. I'll adjust that list when I have the time.
After that point it's incomplete as I haven't sorted everything into worthy or unworthy, except dumping the bunch in brackets into worthy.
Even when streamlining it's important to have enough filler to camouflage the hidden plot hints elsewhere, so I kept anything with any implication and most of the good filler. There are some elements like the ongoing cop romance arcs in the above list that you could still easily drop if desired.
Also, this list was made when not every episode was subbed. The episodes on the list that was passed on to me that I didn't have access to at the time are: 118 233 234 249 250 289 290 291 292 293 331 332 398 399 406 407 408 445, but I can't personally vouch for their relevance or quality.
While I have this open, the other list I have is when to watch the movies. May as well post that while I'm here. Watch movies as if they were episode:
Having said that, only movies 1, 3, 5 and 13 are the only ones worth watching, in my opinion, although a few of the others (6, 7, 12, 14) aren't terrible.
When they stopped german dubs I stopped watching it, as well. ( they stopped after the episode where Ran and Conan meet the FBI detective guy in the snow). Since I was still like 13 or 14 not yet into internet and original dubs at the time I never watched further but I know a bit what happened main plot wise.
Been telling myself to pick it up again for a few years now but didn't find the time because the amount of chapters and eps is so massive :D. Might as well do it soon.
I always thought that Gosho has be some kind of genius to think of all these cases and ways they kill people ~_~ but I wished he'd focus more on the main story. No idea when he intends to finishes this :D.
Agreed with what a few of you have been saying though, the annual Movie releases are absolutely AMAZING and I watch them on day1 whenever they're released with eng sub.
On November 02 2013 16:23 BLinD-RawR wrote: its been a while since a new chapter came out....
Its probably out and just has not been subbed since the main translating group seems to have gotten slower doing it to the point where they have gotten sniped a few times because they fell 3 weeks behind.
I just had a dream about the series and lo and behold, I open team liquid and there is a discussion thread about it. ^^
In my dream there was a beautiful flashback sequence with shinichi and ran in a field of flowers somewhere on the mountain side interpersed with scenes of ran meeting someone new that she likes and conan still a child, walking around on the same mountain but now it is cold and desolated.
If you think about it conan's existence is sad, he attracts dead and misery, he never makes any progress and he is constantly hurting the people around him. Ran by not letting her meet someone else and making her cry for him, her father for using him as a puppet to solve cases for him which clearly confuses him, invades his personal image, and gives him undeserved success that might end up his downfall later. Haibara by never telling her anything. You could deem him as the villain of the series in a way.
Anyway, I think that most of the anime-only episodes are only worth watching if you've already exhausted your detective conan supply and are desperate for more. Also, there are issues with the translations. I'm currently going through the manga and "your" is spelled as "you're", there are many bizarre sentences and general spelling problems, it makes me lose faith that I'm getting a high quality translation.
Also, it seems like it's a show directed towards kids, but then there is a character like Haibara whom tries to commit suicide exactly how many times in the series?
On November 08 2013 06:52 Shellshock wrote: just finished season 4. I'm so hooked on this show right now
You have to be really careful watching this show though. There is a temptation to rush through the seasons only selecting plot relevant episodes about the black organization, but the pacing of the filler and the insistence on maintaining the case-of-the-week format in every single episode is actually a strength of the show. However, since there are anime-original episodes there is a huge increase in filler at some point, which can get pretty annoying. I think that if you ever feel like the show is taking too long you first have to realize that the show lasts for 800+ episodes and the plot isn't finalized yet and secondly that you should start to consider only watching the manga-derived episodes since those tend to be more interesting in terms of characterization and plot. Avoiding burn-out and such. Or just read the manga, since actually the manga is like a direct story board for the anime, which does mean the anime is high quality but also slightly superfluous. I still prefer the latter, since the voice acting is good and it adds something but opinions differ I s'pose. (slightly rambling, sorry )
On November 08 2013 06:52 Shellshock wrote: just finished season 4. I'm so hooked on this show right now
You have to be really careful watching this show though. There is a temptation to rush through the seasons only selecting plot relevant episodes about the black organization, but the pacing of the filler and the insistence on maintaining the case-of-the-week format in every single episode is actually a strength of the show. However, since there are anime-original episodes there is a huge increase in filler at some point, which can get pretty annoying. I think that if you ever feel like the show is taking too long you first have to realize that the show lasts for 800+ episodes and the plot isn't finalized yet and secondly that you should start to consider only watching the manga-derived episodes since those tend to be more interesting in terms of characterization and plot. Avoiding burn-out and such. Or just read the manga, since actually the manga is like a direct story board for the anime, which does mean the anime is high quality but also slightly superfluous. I still prefer the latter, since the voice acting is good and it adds something but opinions differ I s'pose. (slightly rambling, sorry )
I would never ever burn out from watching DC. So good
On November 08 2013 06:52 Shellshock wrote: just finished season 4. I'm so hooked on this show right now
You have to be really careful watching this show though. There is a temptation to rush through the seasons only selecting plot relevant episodes about the black organization, but the pacing of the filler and the insistence on maintaining the case-of-the-week format in every single episode is actually a strength of the show. However, since there are anime-original episodes there is a huge increase in filler at some point, which can get pretty annoying. I think that if you ever feel like the show is taking too long you first have to realize that the show lasts for 800+ episodes and the plot isn't finalized yet and secondly that you should start to consider only watching the manga-derived episodes since those tend to be more interesting in terms of characterization and plot. Avoiding burn-out and such. Or just read the manga, since actually the manga is like a direct story board for the anime, which does mean the anime is high quality but also slightly superfluous. I still prefer the latter, since the voice acting is good and it adds something but opinions differ I s'pose. (slightly rambling, sorry )
I find the opposite is true in that there were more filler episodes early on but the later episodes the manga only episodes started just branching off into new stories instead of doing pure filler cases. Though in my rewatch I am only watching manga episodes and skipping the non relevant TV only ones because I can go back and watch those after I finish and a lot of them are very very good
On November 08 2013 10:20 Ercster wrote: As I'm a dub only kind of guy, Funimation needs to start dubbing this again. I've been reading the mangas and I need more.
Its actually kind of funny how funimation is blocking the subs of an anime they have no intention of ever continuing.
On November 08 2013 06:52 Shellshock wrote: just finished season 4. I'm so hooked on this show right now
You have to be really careful watching this show though. There is a temptation to rush through the seasons only selecting plot relevant episodes about the black organization, but the pacing of the filler and the insistence on maintaining the case-of-the-week format in every single episode is actually a strength of the show. However, since there are anime-original episodes there is a huge increase in filler at some point, which can get pretty annoying. I think that if you ever feel like the show is taking too long you first have to realize that the show lasts for 800+ episodes and the plot isn't finalized yet and secondly that you should start to consider only watching the manga-derived episodes since those tend to be more interesting in terms of characterization and plot. Avoiding burn-out and such. Or just read the manga, since actually the manga is like a direct story board for the anime, which does mean the anime is high quality but also slightly superfluous. I still prefer the latter, since the voice acting is good and it adds something but opinions differ I s'pose. (slightly rambling, sorry )
I'm not too worried about burning out and I don't really mind the filler episodes at all. I went through the entirety of Naruto from the beginning to the current episodes in about 4 weeks so I'm also not too worried about overwhelming myself. I watched the 130 english dubbed ones in the past so I'm not quite through all of those episodes yet. Excited about getting to the ones I haven't seen yet.
On November 08 2013 06:52 Shellshock wrote: just finished season 4. I'm so hooked on this show right now
You have to be really careful watching this show though. There is a temptation to rush through the seasons only selecting plot relevant episodes about the black organization, but the pacing of the filler and the insistence on maintaining the case-of-the-week format in every single episode is actually a strength of the show. However, since there are anime-original episodes there is a huge increase in filler at some point, which can get pretty annoying. I think that if you ever feel like the show is taking too long you first have to realize that the show lasts for 800+ episodes and the plot isn't finalized yet and secondly that you should start to consider only watching the manga-derived episodes since those tend to be more interesting in terms of characterization and plot. Avoiding burn-out and such. Or just read the manga, since actually the manga is like a direct story board for the anime, which does mean the anime is high quality but also slightly superfluous. I still prefer the latter, since the voice acting is good and it adds something but opinions differ I s'pose. (slightly rambling, sorry )
I'm not too worried about burning out and I don't really mind the filler episodes at all. I went through the entirety of Naruto from the beginning to the current episodes in about 4 weeks so I'm also not too worried about overwhelming myself. I watched the 130 english dubbed ones in the past so I'm not quite through all of those episodes yet. Excited about getting to the ones I haven't seen yet.
It is interesting to me how the dub stopped literally at the point where series started picking up steam and started introducing new characters or character development in almost every case.
On November 08 2013 10:20 Ercster wrote: As I'm a dub only kind of guy, Funimation needs to start dubbing this again. I've been reading the mangas and I need more.
Its actually kind of funny how funimation is blocking the subs of an anime they have no intention of ever continuing.
It has to do with their licensing agreement with the studio.
The fan translations for the anime that I found were sometimes horrible. I think it was noticeable how there were different teams working on the translations since for some there was a lack of English skills. animen00bs fansub team or something, I know I should be appreciative of anyone doing subs but they were just awful.
On November 09 2013 04:39 Grumbels wrote: The fan translations for the anime that I found were sometimes horrible. I think it was noticeable how there were different teams working on the translations since for some there was a noticeable lack of English skills. animen00bs fansub team or something, I know I should be appreciative of anyone doing subs but they were just awful.
That's because there was one team that had all the translations done but then they had to pull them so only things left are the second tier ones.
btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
The movies are fantastic I love 'em :3
They tend to be more fun than the normal episodes cause they're longer and allow more "epic" stories.
I don't think they're considered alternate universe, pretty sure they're canon.
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
The movies are fantastic I love 'em :3
They tend to be more fun than the normal episodes cause they're longer and allow more "epic" stories.
I don't think they're considered alternate universe, pretty sure they're canon.
I highly doubt the movies are canon considering some of the developments in them would not make sense as canon but they as a whole follow the story fairly well and are pretty good.
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
DC Episodes = appetizers DC OVAs = entrees DC Movies = desserts (you don't always get them, but when you do, you cry because you think to yourself "where has this been all my life?")
On November 13 2013 11:06 BLinD-RawR wrote: everytime I see someone bump this thread I think theres a new chapter out for the manga...its been nearly a month now.
There are about 4 chapters out the translators are just on vacation or something. I would not be surprised if in a week or two another group steals it from them.
On November 13 2013 11:06 BLinD-RawR wrote: everytime I see someone bump this thread I think theres a new chapter out for the manga...its been nearly a month now.
There are about 4 chapters out the translators are just on vacation or something. I would not be surprised if in a week or two another group steals it from them.
nooo, I read the latest ~100 manga chapters to get ahead on the anime and I was getting used to those translators. I can wait infinity more weeks as long as they keep up quality.
Some of the characters joke that Conan is the one causing all the murders, but it's the nature of the series that all the murders revolve around Conan so the series was making fun of itself. Though in the recent episode 716 + Show Spoiler +
there were three assassination attempts on someone and nobody cared, one was subtle the other two were very obvious. Only finally when someone dies, though not the intended target, does the group actually freak out and decide that the police should be called.
On November 13 2013 08:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:59 Grumbels wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
The movies are fantastic I love 'em :3
They tend to be more fun than the normal episodes cause they're longer and allow more "epic" stories.
I don't think they're considered alternate universe, pretty sure they're canon.
I highly doubt the movies are canon considering some of the developments in them would not make sense as canon but they as a whole follow the story fairly well and are pretty good.
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
DC Episodes = appetizers DC OVAs = entrees DC Movies = desserts (you don't always get them, but when you do, you cry because you think to yourself "where has this been all my life?")
On November 13 2013 08:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:59 Grumbels wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
The movies are fantastic I love 'em :3
They tend to be more fun than the normal episodes cause they're longer and allow more "epic" stories.
I don't think they're considered alternate universe, pretty sure they're canon.
I highly doubt the movies are canon considering some of the developments in them would not make sense as canon but they as a whole follow the story fairly well and are pretty good.
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
DC Episodes = appetizers DC OVAs = entrees DC Movies = desserts (you don't always get them, but when you do, you cry because you think to yourself "where has this been all my life?")
if ovas are entrees everyone would starve
So should it be:
DC OVAs = appetizers DC Episodes= entrees DC Movies = desserts (you don't always get them, but when you do, you cry because you think to yourself "where has this been all my life?")
On November 14 2013 12:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 13 2013 08:40 Adreme wrote:
On November 13 2013 08:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:59 Grumbels wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
The movies are fantastic I love 'em :3
They tend to be more fun than the normal episodes cause they're longer and allow more "epic" stories.
I don't think they're considered alternate universe, pretty sure they're canon.
I highly doubt the movies are canon considering some of the developments in them would not make sense as canon but they as a whole follow the story fairly well and are pretty good.
Really? Like what?
On November 13 2013 10:52 Seeker wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:59 Grumbels wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
DC Episodes = appetizers DC OVAs = entrees DC Movies = desserts (you don't always get them, but when you do, you cry because you think to yourself "where has this been all my life?")
if ovas are entrees everyone would starve
So should it be:
DC OVAs = appetizers DC Episodes= entrees DC Movies = desserts (you don't always get them, but when you do, you cry because you think to yourself "where has this been all my life?")
I don't understand, then what's the main course? (I'm confused about what entree means though -- edit: seems the meaning is different in American usage than European)
On November 14 2013 12:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 13 2013 08:40 Adreme wrote:
On November 13 2013 08:02 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:59 Grumbels wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
The movies are fantastic I love 'em :3
They tend to be more fun than the normal episodes cause they're longer and allow more "epic" stories.
I don't think they're considered alternate universe, pretty sure they're canon.
I highly doubt the movies are canon considering some of the developments in them would not make sense as canon but they as a whole follow the story fairly well and are pretty good.
Really? Like what?
On November 13 2013 10:52 Seeker wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:59 Grumbels wrote:
On November 13 2013 07:49 AsnSensation wrote: btw reading this thread has made me curious and check for the latest movie again and apparently Movie 17 Private Eye in the distant sea just recently released on all the anime sites and eng subs should be up soon!
Are the movies any good? I never watched any of them since I read they are like alternative universe type, with plot developments that don't reflect the plot progression of the normal episodes.
DC Episodes = appetizers DC OVAs = entrees DC Movies = desserts (you don't always get them, but when you do, you cry because you think to yourself "where has this been all my life?")
if ovas are entrees everyone would starve
So should it be:
DC OVAs = appetizers DC Episodes= entrees DC Movies = desserts (you don't always get them, but when you do, you cry because you think to yourself "where has this been all my life?")
I don't understand, then what's the main course? (I'm confused about what entree means though -- edit: seems the meaning is different in American usage than European)
I was actually using that very website, since it has useful left-right arrow functionality, but eventually I ended up using a tablet to read and that website just made me sick with the disgusting ads they use.
"DO YOU HAVE TRYPOPHOBIA??"
Together with disgusting pictures of humans with bizarre skin conditions that give me nightmares.
I have ad-block on my desktop pc but I don't know of any such thing for an iPad and I was wondering if there were alternatives that would not make my skin crawl.
I was actually using that very website, since it has useful left-right arrow functionality, but eventually I ended up using a tablet to read and that website just made me sick with the disgusting ads they use.
"DO YOU HAVE TRYPOPHOBIA??"
Together with disgusting pictures of humans with bizarre skin conditions that give me nightmares.
I have ad-block on my desktop pc but I don't know of any such thing for an iPad and I was wondering if there were alternatives that would not make my skin crawl.
unfortunately I do not know any website that doesn't run ads, but an alternative would be to find a website that lets you switch to webtoon format(aka all pages of the chapter on a single long page)
Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
BR, what do you think of Masumi Sera?
in what context?
she is good, I doubt shes working for the MIB, her brother is certainly not dead though.
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
BR, what do you think of Masumi Sera?
in what context?
she is good, I doubt shes working for the MIB, her brother is certainly not dead though.
Akai Shuuichi? HOW THE HELL DID HE SURVIVE THOUGH?! HOW IN THE WORLD WILL THEY EXPLAIN HIM SURVIVING A HEAD SHOT/BODY BURNING IN A CAR?
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
BR, what do you think of Masumi Sera?
in what context?
she is good, I doubt shes working for the MIB, her brother is certainly not dead though.
Akai Shuuichi? HOW THE HELL DID HE SURVIVE THOUGH?! HOW IN THE WORLD WILL THEY EXPLAIN HIM SURVIVING A HEAD SHOT/BODY BURNING IN A CAR?
I thought that there were three siblings, Sera is the youngest, Akai is the oldest but also didn't have a good relationship with Sera, Subaru being the middle sibling that constantly texts with Sera.
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
BR, what do you think of Masumi Sera?
in what context?
she is good, I doubt shes working for the MIB, her brother is certainly not dead though.
Akai Shuuichi? HOW THE HELL DID HE SURVIVE THOUGH?! HOW IN THE WORLD WILL THEY EXPLAIN HIM SURVIVING A HEAD SHOT/BODY BURNING IN A CAR?
they may have been able to anticipate the scenario far enough in advanance to set up fake like if she managed to get a fake bullet and have him have fire proof stuff availble then its possible, Gin was watching through a monitor so would be easy to fake him with fake blood and what not
On November 19 2013 19:42 Chexx wrote: but who is the little girl living with sera?
we'll find out soon enough.
Basically the latest black organization arc (past 200 episodes) is eerily similar to first one(200ish-504) so assuming that we know that next black arc will begin a storyline which will conclude with the 3rd one. I assume the next big one will basically finish letting us know who is who and where loyalties are and 3rd one will conclude it in an amazing fashion.
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
BR, what do you think of Masumi Sera?
in what context?
she is good, I doubt shes working for the MIB, her brother is certainly not dead though.
Akai Shuuichi? HOW THE HELL DID HE SURVIVE THOUGH?! HOW IN THE WORLD WILL THEY EXPLAIN HIM SURVIVING A HEAD SHOT/BODY BURNING IN A CAR?
they may have been able to anticipate the scenario far enough in advanance to set up fake like if she managed to get a fake bullet and have him have fire proof stuff availble then its possible, Gin was watching through a monitor so would be easy to fake him with fake blood and what not
The rest of the mystery is fairly simple to explain its just that the how he survived is the tricky part.
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
BR, what do you think of Masumi Sera?
in what context?
she is good, I doubt shes working for the MIB, her brother is certainly not dead though.
Akai Shuuichi? HOW THE HELL DID HE SURVIVE THOUGH?! HOW IN THE WORLD WILL THEY EXPLAIN HIM SURVIVING A HEAD SHOT/BODY BURNING IN A CAR?
they may have been able to anticipate the scenario far enough in advanance to set up fake like if she managed to get a fake bullet and have him have fire proof stuff availble then its possible, Gin was watching through a monitor so would be easy to fake him with fake blood and what not
The rest of the mystery is fairly simple to explain its just that the how he survived is the tricky part.
keep in mind he must have organised all of this alone, without any help of the fbi
maybe the whole thing is a set-up to make people think that he isn't dead only to reveal that he really is and that it's possible in fact for important characters to get killed off. Although that would go against the feel of the show maybe, which is usually lighter. But keep in mind that this is also the same series where Haibara tries to commit suicide so many times, so maybe it can be darker.
On November 18 2013 15:00 Seeker wrote: Whoa whoa whoa.... If you're going to discuss the manga, you may want to put it in spoilers. Even though this is the DC discussion thread, we don't want to spoil things. It's too much of a hassle to create two threads (manga only discussion and anime only discussion) even though it's necessary.. Not to mention I don't think DC is popular enough to warrant two threads even though it would be great.
every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
BR, what do you think of Masumi Sera?
in what context?
she is good, I doubt shes working for the MIB, her brother is certainly not dead though.
Akai Shuuichi? HOW THE HELL DID HE SURVIVE THOUGH?! HOW IN THE WORLD WILL THEY EXPLAIN HIM SURVIVING A HEAD SHOT/BODY BURNING IN A CAR?
they may have been able to anticipate the scenario far enough in advanance to set up fake like if she managed to get a fake bullet and have him have fire proof stuff availble then its possible, Gin was watching through a monitor so would be easy to fake him with fake blood and what not
The rest of the mystery is fairly simple to explain its just that the how he survived is the tricky part.
keep in mind he must have organised all of this alone, without any help of the fbi
maybe the whole thing is a set-up to make people think that he isn't dead only to reveal that he really is and that it's possible in fact for important characters to get killed off. Although that would go against the feel of the show maybe, which is usually lighter. But keep in mind that this is also the same series where Haibara tries to commit suicide so many times, so maybe it can be darker.
Haibara hasnt really tried to kill herself
i mean shes been super depressed but its not like shes ever slit her wrists or anything
On November 18 2013 15:22 Forikorder wrote: [quote] every other discussion threads assumes that everyone is up to date on the manga(though generally people use spoilers for the first couple posts and first person to comment links the new chapter)
Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
BR, what do you think of Masumi Sera?
in what context?
she is good, I doubt shes working for the MIB, her brother is certainly not dead though.
Akai Shuuichi? HOW THE HELL DID HE SURVIVE THOUGH?! HOW IN THE WORLD WILL THEY EXPLAIN HIM SURVIVING A HEAD SHOT/BODY BURNING IN A CAR?
they may have been able to anticipate the scenario far enough in advanance to set up fake like if she managed to get a fake bullet and have him have fire proof stuff availble then its possible, Gin was watching through a monitor so would be easy to fake him with fake blood and what not
The rest of the mystery is fairly simple to explain its just that the how he survived is the tricky part.
keep in mind he must have organised all of this alone, without any help of the fbi
maybe the whole thing is a set-up to make people think that he isn't dead only to reveal that he really is and that it's possible in fact for important characters to get killed off. Although that would go against the feel of the show maybe, which is usually lighter. But keep in mind that this is also the same series where Haibara tries to commit suicide so many times, so maybe it can be darker.
Haibara hasnt really tried to kill herself
i mean shes been super depressed but its not like shes ever slit her wrists or anything
she has tried killing herself at least once by taking the poison, and she stayed in a bus that was going to explode with the intent to die, and she has tried to get herself captured by the black organisation knowing she would die because she thought it would prevent her friends from being in danger
On November 18 2013 16:19 Seeker wrote: [quote] Oh okay. Cool. Personally, I'm up to date. I was just worried other people might complain.
spoilers are to be expected, also this is a mystery manga the worst kind to have spoiled, you'd think someone would at least catch up to the latest chapter before venturing this thread.
BR, what do you think of Masumi Sera?
in what context?
she is good, I doubt shes working for the MIB, her brother is certainly not dead though.
Akai Shuuichi? HOW THE HELL DID HE SURVIVE THOUGH?! HOW IN THE WORLD WILL THEY EXPLAIN HIM SURVIVING A HEAD SHOT/BODY BURNING IN A CAR?
they may have been able to anticipate the scenario far enough in advanance to set up fake like if she managed to get a fake bullet and have him have fire proof stuff availble then its possible, Gin was watching through a monitor so would be easy to fake him with fake blood and what not
The rest of the mystery is fairly simple to explain its just that the how he survived is the tricky part.
keep in mind he must have organised all of this alone, without any help of the fbi
maybe the whole thing is a set-up to make people think that he isn't dead only to reveal that he really is and that it's possible in fact for important characters to get killed off. Although that would go against the feel of the show maybe, which is usually lighter. But keep in mind that this is also the same series where Haibara tries to commit suicide so many times, so maybe it can be darker.
Haibara hasnt really tried to kill herself
i mean shes been super depressed but its not like shes ever slit her wrists or anything
she has tried killing herself at least once by taking the poison, and she stayed in a bus that was going to explode with the intent to die, and she has tried to get herself captured by the black organisation knowing she would die because she thought it would prevent her friends from being in danger
i definently dont remember the poison unless you mean when she was in the gas chamber about to be brutla mudered, the other 2 is more given up on trying to survive then actively trying to die
Since I remember it coming up earlier in the thread it seems someone else subbed the next chapter of the manga. There are still about 4 chapters undone but if someone else picked it up then you can assume they will be done with relative haste.
I am hesitant to continue reading after this case though since I picked up the anime again and the anime has a certain atmosphere that the manga cant replicate.
On November 22 2013 17:34 Adreme wrote: Since I remember it coming up earlier in the thread it seems someone else subbed the next chapter of the manga. There are still about 4 chapters undone but if someone else picked it up then you can assume they will be done with relative haste.
I am hesitant to continue reading after this case though since I picked up the anime again and the anime has a certain atmosphere that the manga cant replicate.
I prefer anime > manga. But anime is taking too long :/
On November 22 2013 17:34 Adreme wrote: Since I remember it coming up earlier in the thread it seems someone else subbed the next chapter of the manga. There are still about 4 chapters undone but if someone else picked it up then you can assume they will be done with relative haste.
I am hesitant to continue reading after this case though since I picked up the anime again and the anime has a certain atmosphere that the manga cant replicate.
I prefer anime > manga. But anime is taking too long :/
I would not mind the anime taking so long if the fillers were usually so painfully uninteresting and they almost always use just the lead characters and very rarely the interesting side characters (I think Heiji appears in 2 episodes out of about 250 fillers).
Edit: Also to note I believe the manga typically stays about 6-9 months ahead so that's not to bad if I were to wait for it to catch up.
On November 22 2013 17:34 Adreme wrote: Since I remember it coming up earlier in the thread it seems someone else subbed the next chapter of the manga. There are still about 4 chapters undone but if someone else picked it up then you can assume they will be done with relative haste.
I am hesitant to continue reading after this case though since I picked up the anime again and the anime has a certain atmosphere that the manga cant replicate.
I can't force myself to read the manga with the same amount of care that I watch the anime, so I can't focus on the intrigue of the cases as much. I should really read more slowly and carefully I guess.
On November 18 2013 14:13 Chexx wrote: I am pretty sure that the secret is another room switch trick because the shampoo caps were missing.
the editor was sittign outside the room the whole time though wasnt he? plus its a hotel so there should be room numbers right?
i think if its anything he managed to set up some sort of trap or managed to fudge the time of death
(I finally got around to reading the latest two manga episodes, since to be honest I was waiting for the resolution of the current story to be translated but since that didn't happen I just gave in to reading...)
The delivery people would know about the room numbers most likely so it would be risky.
I had a fun theory for this murder, but it's not going to be correct as it doesn't fit with the clues, but nevertheless: - the writer organizes an eating contest in order to have an excuse to have a lot of delivery men come - this allows him to hire someone to pretend to be a delivery man - if there wasn't chaos with multiple delivery men from multiple caterers, then this would become noticed - he asked the fake to come to his room beforehand, promising him money - he gives him a poisoned drink to kill him - he takes the delivery costume and goes out to kill his assistant - when the murder is discovered he takes advantage of the chaos to hide the body of the other person
I thought it was fun because of how ruthless it is, killing a random stranger to create an alibi.
I did not like the 17th movie as much as the others. It felt more like an extended episode with slightly less believable physics then an actual movie like the other ones did. I cant really place why I didn't like it other then the fact that it was just sort of boring.
I still wonder who Sera's middle brother is. I feel like we haven't really been given any info on him at all in reality yet, kind of like the start of the "who is Bourbon" mystery, but I have a strong suspicion that the little girl is Sera's mother.
-Sera as we know has a mother in america, a deceased father, herself, a middle brother, and akai who is her eldest brother. -The girl has similar eyes to akai and sera -The girl says if anyone asks tell them she's her "little sister from 'outside the domain.'" That could mean she's from a foreign land, aka not from Japan, which would fit with sera's mother being from America -She could be a victim of the same drug Haibara and Conan are, considering Akai is a known traitor to the black organization it wouldn't be unheard of for them to try to find the mother and poison her (which in turn turned her young) -She's definitely very mature and analytical, meaning she's not really a young child like her looks would give off
On December 04 2013 04:37 Grumbels wrote: The whole story line with the little sister came out of left field or so it seems. How many references to her have there even been?
On December 20 2013 19:41 Seeker wrote: Just finished movie #17. It wasn't as good as all the other ones but it was still pretty nail biting.
But the most epic part was at the end of the movie where they showed two previews. One for movie #18, and another one for Conan vs Lupin III :D
Movie 18 is probably going to be one of my favorites just based on the trailer so at least there is that but with translating being what it is lately I am wondering how long the wait will be for that.
On December 20 2013 19:41 Seeker wrote: Just finished movie #17. It wasn't as good as all the other ones but it was still pretty nail biting.
But the most epic part was at the end of the movie where they showed two previews. One for movie #18, and another one for Conan vs Lupin III :D
Movie 18 is probably going to be one of my favorites just based on the trailer so at least there is that but with translating being what it is lately I am wondering how long the wait will be for that.
No worries. We'll have a heated debate about that movie in December of 2014
On December 26 2013 12:27 BLinD-RawR wrote: what is your favorite kind of case?
personally I'm a big fan of all sealed room murders.
the two standout cases in my memory is 1.the one where they tried to kill the monk in a sealed building by pumping water into it, so that the corpse floated to the top (vol.10 iirc) 2. the occasion when all Sherlock Holmes maniacs gathered. iirc the reason for killing was rather stupid
Obviously whenever the Black Orga shows up it's the sickest chapters, especially the anime specials are really well done.
Heiji or Kaito are mostly really awesome as well. Ran+Kogoro is ok most of the time because I think Kogoro is hilarious but I don't really like all the detective boys stuff.
On December 26 2013 12:27 BLinD-RawR wrote: what is your favorite kind of case?
personally I'm a big fan of all sealed room murders.
My favorite murder cases involve Shinichi + Ran plot progressions.
Fuck that, ConanXAi.
On December 26 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote: Obviously whenever the Black Orga shows up it's the sickest chapters, especially the anime specials are really well done.
Heiji or Kaito are mostly really awesome as well. Ran+Kogoro is ok most of the time because I think Kogoro is hilarious but I don't really like all the detective boys stuff.
Definitely can agree with that. Have probably watched all the episodes till 600 like three times already.
Gosho Aoyama went to his hometown for the yearly fanmeeting and revealed that we might already know who the Black Organisations Boss is, implying he/she already appeared in the story and it's not Professor Agasa.
Gosho Aoyama went to his hometown for the yearly fanmeeting and revealed that we might already know who the Black Organisations Boss is, implying he/she already appeared in the story and it's not Professor Agasa.
Oh yeah. But that's old news. It's probably the guy from the Crow organisation that appeared in some random filler episode, right?
Someone mentioned Haibara and I was briefly worried that Haibara was [that person], and that seemed nonsensical to me so I hoped that wasn't it.
Just finished the Vermouth arc. I almost felt like I was getting burned out trying to go through this show but I feel like my passion is reinvigorated by that 2.5 hr episode. Now I've watched like 5 more today. Also the opening from this part is probably my favorite so far. + Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2014 09:20 Shellshock wrote: Just finished the Vermouth arc. I almost felt like I was getting burned out trying to go through this show but I feel like my passion is reinvigorated by that 2.5 hr episode. Now I've watched like 5 more today. Also the opening from this part is probably my favorite so far. + Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2014 09:20 Shellshock wrote: Just finished the Vermouth arc. I almost felt like I was getting burned out trying to go through this show but I feel like my passion is reinvigorated by that 2.5 hr episode. Now I've watched like 5 more today. Also the opening from this part is probably my favorite so far. + Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2014 09:20 Shellshock wrote: Just finished the Vermouth arc. I almost felt like I was getting burned out trying to go through this show but I feel like my passion is reinvigorated by that 2.5 hr episode. Now I've watched like 5 more today. Also the opening from this part is probably my favorite so far. + Show Spoiler +
ends with the episode with the monster costume party on the ship where Heiji poses as Shinichi and where conan confronts vermouth along with Jodie
I remember that episode also reinvigorating my desire to finish the series (marathoning 345 episodes really takes it out of you when you are doing it back to back) but even with that feeling I will still in a non spoilery style say that I liked the next 2 major black specials better by a lot (clash is probably my favorite set of episodes in the entire series) so look forward to those.
On January 20 2014 18:22 Grumbels wrote: Vermouth arc is a bit clumsy because of the disguises that are unrealistic/silly. Jodie's "undercover" personality was awesome though.
Eh, its no more unrealistic then a lot of the other things the series does though I do wonder if Jodie was supposed to be Vermouth at the start (like really early on in that before the hints started getting dropped) but then everyone liked her to much so Gosho did the twist though based on how they normally do mysteries large and small that's probably not the case.
On January 20 2014 19:38 Chexx wrote: any information regarding the chapters when they will come out?
I believe the main group is at least 7 chapters behind. I know they finally got around to doing the most recent 2 chapters that another group did but I don't know who it was so I cant check on if they are working on any further chapters.
Edit: Editing to note they are only 5 chapters behind, I forgot about January breaks and such so it shouldn't be that much work to catch up.
On January 20 2014 18:22 Grumbels wrote: Vermouth arc is a bit clumsy because of the disguises that are unrealistic/silly. Jodie's "undercover" personality was awesome though.
Eh, its no more unrealistic then a lot of the other things the series does though I do wonder if Jodie was supposed to be Vermouth at the start (like really early on in that before the hints started getting dropped) but then everyone liked her to much so Gosho did the twist though based on how they normally do mysteries large and small that's probably not the case.
I don't think so, she's named Jodie Starling after all, after Jodie Foster's role in Silence of the Lambs as Clarice Starling. And Araide had a lot of screentime for such a minor character, so it makes sense that he was supposed to play a role.
Did Conan always do the ah-le-le thing or did it randomly just start in one episode? it always cracks me up especially when Kogoro did it in the wrestler episode
I think he does it since a very early episode, as part of his disguise as a kid, because Ran is getting suspicious.
One of my favorite episodes is when the Detective Boys call Conan out for acting overly childish. (the episode where their teacher takes them to an interview with a writer who is found murdered)
On January 20 2014 20:07 Grumbels wrote: Did I link this yet? It's a silly fan video with a cheesy song, but it's like a guilty pleasure for me, I always feel excited watching it. ^_^
On January 20 2014 19:38 Chexx wrote: any information regarding the chapters when they will come out?
I believe the main group is at least 7 chapters behind. I know they finally got around to doing the most recent 2 chapters that another group did but I don't know who it was so I cant check on if they are working on any further chapters.
Edit: Editing to note they are only 5 chapters behind, I forgot about January breaks and such so it shouldn't be that much work to catch up.
I don't really mind them being behind though, as long as they catch up eventually. I think that since the arc plotting is so slow it's better to read more episodes in the same sitting, so I never bother reading the latest chapter unless there are a whole bunch.
by there way are there any hints that Subaru Okiya(glasses guy who lives in the Kudo house) is not Akai Shuichi because otherwise its pretty obvious that its him.+ Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2014 09:20 Shellshock wrote: Just finished the Vermouth arc. I almost felt like I was getting burned out trying to go through this show but I feel like my passion is reinvigorated by that 2.5 hr episode. Now I've watched like 5 more today. Also the opening from this part is probably my favorite so far. + Show Spoiler +
thanks to this thread I also started slowly watching the series again after I've pretty much haven't watched a single Conan related thing since 2005 when the germans stopped dubbing the episodes around 300~ish where conan hides in the locker and barely avoids Gin.
The Vermouth episodes were pretty cool but the 10+ episodes special with Akai Shuichi and Mizunashi Rene were just amazing. Didn't have time to continue watching yet but I'll marathon myself up to date when finals are over in 1 month xD.
The opening 13 is good but personally 14 & 16 are my favourites of the new ones I didn't know yet.
PS: anyone else couldn't care less about Ran&Sonoko but has a thing for Yukiko Kudo, Eri Kiseki & Inspector Sato?
Sonoko is probably my least favorite character but I guess I'm glad she's still in the show because it keeps me from focusing my dislike on other more important characters. Probably would dislike Ran the next most because she's so oblivious to everything. At least Kogoro can be kind of funny about it. Ran just cries
On January 20 2014 23:02 Shellshock wrote: Sonoko is probably my least favorite character but I guess I'm glad she's still in the show because it keeps me from focusing my dislike on other more important characters. Probably would dislike Ran the next most because she's so oblivious to everything. At least Kogoro can be kind of funny about it. Ran just cries
Mouri Kogoro is a straight up dick. Him and Sonoko are my two least favorite characters in DC.
On January 20 2014 23:02 Shellshock wrote: Sonoko is probably my least favorite character but I guess I'm glad she's still in the show because it keeps me from focusing my dislike on other more important characters. Probably would dislike Ran the next most because she's so oblivious to everything. At least Kogoro can be kind of funny about it. Ran just cries
Mouri Kogoro is a straight up dick. Him and Sonoko are my two least favorite characters in DC.
Can't dislike kogoro's simply because the way they voice his character is hilarious. Especially when he's put to sleep by conan.
Concerning Kogoro I know it's his whole image and the way Conan solves his cases but I wish he got more cases where he actually seems like a decent detective and doesn't just always present the most obvious theory only to get proven wrong in the very next sentence. In one of the earlier episodes there was his class reunion and Conan didn't solve the cases himself because he saw how determined Kogoro was to find the culprit and later even got it (with a bit of help from Conan). He actually seemed like a badass.
On January 20 2014 23:02 Shellshock wrote: Sonoko is probably my least favorite character but I guess I'm glad she's still in the show because it keeps me from focusing my dislike on other more important characters. Probably would dislike Ran the next most because she's so oblivious to everything. At least Kogoro can be kind of funny about it. Ran just cries
Mouri Kogoro is a straight up dick. Him and Sonoko are my two least favorite characters in DC.
no way, kogoro is hilarious.
I agree. He's a hilarious character. The one thing I absolutely can't stand is how he treats Conan. Always hitting him and picking him up and throwing him out of the room. That's f*ing barbaric. What kind of father/human being does that to a child? Especially when that "child" is the only damn reason people know your name.
On January 20 2014 23:02 Shellshock wrote: Sonoko is probably my least favorite character but I guess I'm glad she's still in the show because it keeps me from focusing my dislike on other more important characters. Probably would dislike Ran the next most because she's so oblivious to everything. At least Kogoro can be kind of funny about it. Ran just cries
Mouri Kogoro is a straight up dick. Him and Sonoko are my two least favorite characters in DC.
no way, kogoro is hilarious.
I agree. He's a hilarious character. The one thing I absolutely can't stand is how he treats Conan. Always hitting him and picking him up and throwing him out of the room. That's f*ing barbaric. What kind of father/human being does that to a child? Especially when that "child" is the only damn reason people know your name.
On January 21 2014 01:11 AsnSensation wrote: Can't dislike kogoro's simply because the way they voice his character is hilarious. Especially when he's put to sleep by conan.
Concerning Kogoro I know it's his whole image and the way Conan solves his cases but I wish he got more cases where he actually seems like a decent detective and doesn't just always present the most obvious theory only to get proven wrong in the very next sentence. In one of the earlier episodes there was his class reunion and Conan didn't solve the cases himself because he saw how determined Kogoro was to find the culprit and later even got it (with a bit of help from Conan). He actually seemed like a badass.
No signs of it ending anytime soon considering it's still Gosho Aoyama's Cash cow he will milk for as long as possible. (which i don't mind)
But with him dropping more hints concerning the BO lately maybe he's thiinking about it. Then again the story has been going for so long when we finally enter the finaly arc with a face off against the Black Organisation it will probably be 2 years worth of chapters.
On January 24 2014 06:40 AsnSensation wrote: No signs of it ending anytime soon considering it's still Gosho Aoyama's Cash cow he will milk for as long as possible. (which i don't mind)
But with him dropping more hints concerning the BO lately maybe he's thiinking about it. Then again the story has been going for so long when we finally enter the finaly arc with a face off against the Black Organisation it will probably be 2 years worth of chapters.
He is dropping hints to keep people interested, he could very easily run another few major black organization cases just to build suspense over the next 5 years and we would still be no closer to an ending because he can just introduce new characters.
On January 24 2014 06:40 AsnSensation wrote: No signs of it ending anytime soon considering it's still Gosho Aoyama's Cash cow he will milk for as long as possible. (which i don't mind)
But with him dropping more hints concerning the BO lately maybe he's thiinking about it. Then again the story has been going for so long when we finally enter the finaly arc with a face off against the Black Organisation it will probably be 2 years worth of chapters.
He is dropping hints to keep people interested, he could very easily run another few major black organization cases just to build suspense over the next 5 years and we would still be no closer to an ending because he can just introduce new characters.
Haibara ends up finding out that she had a long lost twin brother. Ran finds out that her mother is pregnant and Mouri Kogoro is not the father. Sato and Takagi get married but then the BO crash the wedding and forces the police to finally start investigating things. Shiratori dies and no one know how or why. Bourbon is actually working for the FBI and is trying to track down Akai Shuuichi. Gin decides to personally step in and take care of things and get involved for once. Vermouth turns out to be another villain for Conan to chase but she is not actually working for the BO, and is in fact, working for a rival organization that is even more sinister and more evil. A major character finds out about Conan's identity and dies in the process, forcing Conan to slowly lose his mind and become paranoid.
I saw that one out almost 3 weeks I don't know why it took so long to get posted elsewhere since it normally takes less then 5 minutes. Still it amuses me how little the people doing it care about the stupid kite.
On January 19 2014 09:20 Shellshock wrote: Just finished the Vermouth arc. I almost felt like I was getting burned out trying to go through this show but I feel like my passion is reinvigorated by that 2.5 hr episode. Now I've watched like 5 more today. Also the opening from this part is probably my favorite so far. + Show Spoiler +
ends with the episode with the monster costume party on the ship where Heiji poses as Shinichi and where conan confronts vermouth along with Jodie
I remember that episode also reinvigorating my desire to finish the series (marathoning 345 episodes really takes it out of you when you are doing it back to back) but even with that feeling I will still in a non spoilery style say that I liked the next 2 major black specials better by a lot (clash is probably my favorite set of episodes in the entire series) so look forward to those.
Just finished the clash of red and black the other day. was not disappointed
While this sounds interesting, the amount of episodes released put me off even trying it lol. The manga is also really long at 888 chapters. Is there anyway around catching up to the plot or is the recommendation to just plow through it?
I didn't read the manga but I've been using this kind of as a guide for the show www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Anime it marks every episode where there are plot developments or characters introduced. I've just been watching every episode cause I don't mind the fillers but this could be a good start on cutting out what you wouldn't have to watch. Someone who has seen more of it could probably offer some better advice though especially if you want to move through quicker than that.
On March 20 2014 15:56 Shellshock wrote: I didn't read the manga but I've been using this kind of as a guide for the show www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Anime it marks every episode where there are plot developments or characters introduced. I've just been watching every episode cause I don't mind the fillers but this could be a good start on cutting out what you wouldn't have to watch. Someone who has seen more of it could probably offer some better advice though especially if you want to move through quicker than that.
np, will wait for more comments. Thanks a lot for the link, should be helpful
On March 20 2014 15:56 Shellshock wrote: I didn't read the manga but I've been using this kind of as a guide for the show www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Anime it marks every episode where there are plot developments or characters introduced. I've just been watching every episode cause I don't mind the fillers but this could be a good start on cutting out what you wouldn't have to watch. Someone who has seen more of it could probably offer some better advice though especially if you want to move through quicker than that.
np, will wait for more comments. Thanks a lot for the link, should be helpful
DC is definitely a super long anime/manga. So if you're up to the task, go for it. I guarantee it will not be time wasted. That being said, if it's too long for you, then I recommend going through with Shellshock's suggestion.
On March 20 2014 23:43 BLinD-RawR wrote: I'd suggest read manga and then watch your favorite arc on anime, also definitely check out the movies.
I haven't watched 15 and 16 yet.
I cant imagine the manga giving the same feeling of pressure and excitement to some of those arcs that the anime managed to pull off. Any complaints you might have about how long the show is its impossible to deny that it does those high tension episodes exceptionally well to the point where when I read the train arc I knew it was going to be amazing animated and I was not disappointed.
aaaaaaahhhhhh~ dectective conan! the best~! every anime episodes whether a manga orig or not are highly spectacular... very creative and highly informative...
On April 07 2014 19:13 Shellshock wrote: I just got to the Kogoro voice actor change. Damn this is going to take some getting used to
LOL! Does he sounds like what now? I cant probably move on to that~
@vortok below
I want to read the chapter, but I also don't want to jump ahead - especially for an arc like this. Guess I get to find out whether I can manage to wait until the two missing chapters are translated and uploaded before my curiosity gets the better of me.
skipping chapters on dc is never a good idea, you might miss out some 'evidence'~
I want to read the chapter, but I also don't want to jump ahead - especially for an arc like this. Guess I get to find out whether I can manage to wait until the two missing chapters are translated and uploaded before my curiosity gets the better of me.
What did you guys think about the Holmes' Revelation case? I just finished watching those episodes and they were great. The way they speak English in the show is pretty funny though because it's so slow.
On April 23 2014 13:25 Shellshock wrote: What did you guys think about the Holmes' Revelation case? I just finished watching those episodes and they were great. The way they speak English in the show is pretty funny though because it's so slow.
I loved that case though episodes like that do make me wonder why they don't get English speakers to handle the lines of characters who are supposed to be foreigners since I have never seen English spoken well in an anime. The Holmes cases are probably on the top 3 non black related cases though so you certainly cant call them boring (possibly even top but there were a lot of good cases).
Though most of it is just preamble about the school teacher case and doesn't have much to do with the following 2 chapters other than providing setup. Aside from showing how Camel got duped the most interesting tidbit is probably about the Japanese 'secret police' organization called 'Zero' that Conan briefly brought up.
I don't quite buy Amuro's deduction. I've thought for a bit that Subaru, the dude living in Shinichi's house, had a bit more to him, but the way they met (crime scene where he was a suspect) seems a bit hard to suddenly smash Akai into unless Akai had been using that as his residence and also stayed in disguise there, but that's a bit of a logic leap for me. Nevermind managing to get Conan on the scene incidentally. If Subaru is anyone more than just a random, rather smart puzzle fan the meeting seems a bit to coincidental though no matter what his final identity is, but I'm too lazy to go find and reread the chapters when he was introduced.
I have had suspicions that Subaru is related to the teen detective chick, though. I think she mentioned two brothers (non-brother friend also remains a possibility), but Akai being the other brother seems like way too neat of a bow to toss on top of this package. If Akai and Subaru are separate people like I suspect though (Akai going out disguised as Subaru), some kind of pre-existing relation between the two would be about the only way that Akai would trust Subaru regardless of Conan's "Holmes fans are good people" claims.
I still think Subaru is Akai (before these episode). Conan must have predict Bourbon's plan to uncover Akai so he has his mom (yeah shes not beside her husband during the ceremony) disguise as Subaru. That said, the thing about voice-changing device is pretty loose. Didnt Vermouth change into a brazillion of people without wearing anything to alter her voice?
On May 11 2014 22:27 Arceus wrote: I still think Subaru is Akai (before these episode). Conan must have predict Bourbon's plan to uncover Akai so he has his mom (yeah shes not beside her husband during the ceremony) disguise as Subaru. That said, the thing about voice-changing device is pretty loose. Didnt Vermouth change into a brazillion of people without wearing anything to alter her voice?
Yes but it is not something anyone can do and those two are very talented actors so that's the justification for it. As for who it is under the mask it most likely is yukiko (explaining her interest in the award ceremony) but that still puts into question what exactly the end game of this all is... I mean is Bourbon just going to abandon his theory and leave? However didn't he just get a call that Akai is in the back of the car which leaves you to wonder what is there plan to protect there undercover? This just seems like a decent misdirection but didn't actually solve any of the major issues.
On a related note I am glad that this big plot case got the translators back into translating mode.
On May 11 2014 22:27 Arceus wrote: I still think Subaru is Akai (before these episode). Conan must have predict Bourbon's plan to uncover Akai so he has his mom (yeah shes not beside her husband during the ceremony) disguise as Subaru. That said, the thing about voice-changing device is pretty loose. Didnt Vermouth change into a brazillion of people without wearing anything to alter her voice?
i think theres 2 people who take turns playing the role and while one is playing Subaru the toher is doing sneaky sneaky stuff, theres that person who was in that picture with Akais sister so maybe its that person?
Does anyone know how far apart the anime and the manga are for Detective Conan? It seems relatively close compared to some other things like Naruto. I just wanted to know how far behind I'll be after I catch up to the current episodes since I'm about 100 away
On May 12 2014 14:46 Shellshock wrote: Does anyone know how far apart the anime and the manga are for Detective Conan? It seems relatively close compared to some other things like Naruto. I just wanted to know how far behind I'll be after I catch up to the current episodes since I'm about 100 away
Looking at what the latest anime airing arc is they appear to be 42 chapters behind and they usually use fillers to stay around 40 chapters behind which is better then most pull off but for a weekly DC has a fairly high chapter per episode ratio, as in I don't think 1.5 chapters per episode is the high mark and they frequently are lower then that.
On May 11 2014 13:01 Forikorder wrote: this chapter gave me some intense nerd chills
BTW does anyone else think that this plan is really overcomplicated just as a way to get rena as a mole in the black organization?
No. The FBI only have Rena. Originally they had her father and her in the org and that was it. When her father was going to be found out, he was forced to kill himself and make it look like Rena did it in order to keep her in the org. Basically, to keep their mole they had to sacrifice one of their lives. If Rena was found out again to actually be the mole, they'd lose their last link to the organization. Conan's plan was able to not only keep Rena in the org, but solidified her loyalty as well as lost no lives in the process (the black org member committed suicide, and they merely used his body for the trick). + Show Spoiler +
The only person to have had any doubt about that was bourbon, and we now know he really is part of the Japanese secret police, so him knowing is fine.
On May 11 2014 22:27 Arceus wrote: I still think Subaru is Akai (before these episode). Conan must have predict Bourbon's plan to uncover Akai so he has his mom (yeah shes not beside her husband during the ceremony) disguise as Subaru. That said, the thing about voice-changing device is pretty loose. Didnt Vermouth change into a brazillion of people without wearing anything to alter her voice?
lol it was the other way around, dad disguised as subaru and mom disguised as dad at the award ceremony.
On May 11 2014 13:01 Forikorder wrote: this chapter gave me some intense nerd chills
BTW does anyone else think that this plan is really overcomplicated just as a way to get rena as a mole in the black organization?
No. The FBI only have Rena. Originally they had her father and her in the org and that was it. When her father was going to be found out, he was forced to kill himself and make it look like Rena did it in order to keep her in the org. Basically, to keep their mole they had to sacrifice one of their lives. If Rena was found out again to actually be the mole, they'd lose their last link to the organization. Conan's plan was able to not only keep Rena in the org, but solidified her loyalty as well as lost no lives in the process (the black org member committed suicide, and they merely used his body for the trick). + Show Spoiler +
The only person to have had any doubt about that was bourbon, and we now know he really is part of the Japanese secret police, so him knowing is fine.
Rena is with the CIA though
i just mean that if they could come up with an extreme detailed plan, from such a distance beforehand, that reachs so far in the future and contains so many moving parts just to have one potential mole in the organization couldnt htey have come up with a much more simplistic plan?
i really think this plan is a "2 birds one stone" kinda deal and they wanted the organization to think the super-FBI dude was dead so he could move around invisible and do something nefarious
On May 11 2014 13:01 Forikorder wrote: this chapter gave me some intense nerd chills
BTW does anyone else think that this plan is really overcomplicated just as a way to get rena as a mole in the black organization?
No. The FBI only have Rena. Originally they had her father and her in the org and that was it. When her father was going to be found out, he was forced to kill himself and make it look like Rena did it in order to keep her in the org. Basically, to keep their mole they had to sacrifice one of their lives. If Rena was found out again to actually be the mole, they'd lose their last link to the organization. Conan's plan was able to not only keep Rena in the org, but solidified her loyalty as well as lost no lives in the process (the black org member committed suicide, and they merely used his body for the trick). + Show Spoiler +
The only person to have had any doubt about that was bourbon, and we now know he really is part of the Japanese secret police, so him knowing is fine.
Rena is with the CIA though
i just mean that if they could come up with an extreme detailed plan, from such a distance beforehand, that reachs so far in the future and contains so many moving parts just to have one potential mole in the organization couldnt htey have come up with a much more simplistic plan?
i really think this plan is a "2 birds one stone" kinda deal and they wanted the organization to think the super-FBI dude was dead so he could move around invisible and do something nefarious
Well that one mole is your ONLY mole so its your only person inside the organization it makes it worth it. Plus the moving parts were basically just to protect Akai for when she likely was going to be told to kill him.
On May 11 2014 13:01 Forikorder wrote: this chapter gave me some intense nerd chills
BTW does anyone else think that this plan is really overcomplicated just as a way to get rena as a mole in the black organization?
No. The FBI only have Rena. Originally they had her father and her in the org and that was it. When her father was going to be found out, he was forced to kill himself and make it look like Rena did it in order to keep her in the org. Basically, to keep their mole they had to sacrifice one of their lives. If Rena was found out again to actually be the mole, they'd lose their last link to the organization. Conan's plan was able to not only keep Rena in the org, but solidified her loyalty as well as lost no lives in the process (the black org member committed suicide, and they merely used his body for the trick). + Show Spoiler +
The only person to have had any doubt about that was bourbon, and we now know he really is part of the Japanese secret police, so him knowing is fine.
Rena is with the CIA though
i just mean that if they could come up with an extreme detailed plan, from such a distance beforehand, that reachs so far in the future and contains so many moving parts just to have one potential mole in the organization couldnt htey have come up with a much more simplistic plan?
i really think this plan is a "2 birds one stone" kinda deal and they wanted the organization to think the super-FBI dude was dead so he could move around invisible and do something nefarious
Well that one mole is your ONLY mole so its your only person inside the organization it makes it worth it. Plus the moving parts were basically just to protect Akai for when she likely was going to be told to kill him.
im just saying that Akai must have been doing something behind the scenes while dead
so akai shot an undercover japanese agent that was infiltrating the organization im guessing, bourbon probably blames him thinking akai only did it to advance and didnt ahve to kill him hopefully no more pointless filler and theyll jump straight into rum
So apparently Subaru's previous, burned down residence is a case of 'however improbable.' Guess I can work with that, given the bazillion Holmes' references throughout the series.
It also seems like he might be joining the club of 'people who aren't braindead after observing Conan' fairly soon. Which of course means means he wasn't actually told yet.
On June 06 2014 13:26 Vortok wrote: So apparently Subaru's previous, burned down residence is a case of 'however improbable.' Guess I can work with that, given the bazillion Holmes' references throughout the series.
It also seems like he might be joining the club of 'people who aren't braindead after observing Conan' fairly soon. Which of course means means he wasn't actually told yet.
On June 07 2014 01:07 Seeker wrote: FBI all know that something's up with Conan and that he's not a regular kid. But I wish someone would hurry up and find out his identity already...
he told renas brother when pushed so im guessing akai knows since there working together so closely
On June 06 2014 13:26 Vortok wrote: So apparently Subaru's previous, burned down residence is a case of 'however improbable.' Guess I can work with that, given the bazillion Holmes' references throughout the series.
It also seems like he might be joining the club of 'people who aren't braindead after observing Conan' fairly soon. Which of course means means he wasn't actually told yet.
told what?
His identity. Though looking back at 898 where Conan was talking to his mom, I think I misread a couple of bubbles when the Subaru disguise was being put back on. Particularly Jodi's 'shin-conan?' thought bubble that I'd attributed to Subaru in my mind for some reason. His actual response while observing their exchange does make it seem like he might already know, so you're right and he's probably in the loop.
Looks like the current arc is going back to the task of ensuring every character, even minor ones, have a love interest. All the relationships in the series were a bunch of 'maybe something will happen, but nothing actually does' for the first 500 or so chapters until Sonoko and Makoto (of all people) got the ball rolling during that Valentine chocolate making arc in the snowy mountains. I'm rather curious about the event that made the author change his mind. Maybe he got married or something around that timeframe.
Started a sudden cascade of characters getting together after that point. Even making up someone for a side character like Chiba as well as ensuring Shiratori wasn't left alone after Sato got together with Takagi. Makes me wonder what triggered the author to change things so drastically. Before that point the series felt pretty static, like nothing ever moved forward and no significant changes ever occurred.
Also leads me on a tangent of how much progress we can expect towards taking down the black organization without the series ending immediately afterwards. If they're defeated, a lot of the reason for Conan to hide his identify vanishes. No guarantee that beating the organization = immediate cure, but even in his kid body if he didn't have to hide who he was then at the very least the incentive for the Detective Boys to get together would be gone, plus a bunch of other changes too. The author has shown he can write interesting stuff even without needing the Conan schtick, such as times when he's in his Shinichi body for the entire case. Bringing down the organization/looking for a cure does help tie everything together, but I'm sure the author could come up with a follow-up if he felt motivated to do so.
On June 06 2014 13:26 Vortok wrote: So apparently Subaru's previous, burned down residence is a case of 'however improbable.' Guess I can work with that, given the bazillion Holmes' references throughout the series.
It also seems like he might be joining the club of 'people who aren't braindead after observing Conan' fairly soon. Which of course means means he wasn't actually told yet.
told what?
His identity. Though looking back at 898 where Conan was talking to his mom, I think I misread a couple of bubbles when the Subaru disguise was being put back on. Particularly Jodi's 'shin-conan?' thought bubble that I'd attributed to Subaru in my mind for some reason. His actual response while observing their exchange does make it seem like he might already know, so you're right and he's probably in the loop.
Looks like the current arc is going back to the task of ensuring every character, even minor ones, have a love interest. All the relationships in the series were a bunch of 'maybe something will happen, but nothing actually does' for the first 500 or so chapters until Sonoko and Makoto (of all people) got the ball rolling during that Valentine chocolate making arc in the snowy mountains. I'm rather curious about the event that made the author change his mind. Maybe he got married or something around that timeframe.
Started a sudden cascade of characters getting together after that point. Even making up someone for a side character like Chiba as well as ensuring Shiratori wasn't left alone after Sato got together with Takagi. Makes me wonder what triggered the author to change things so drastically. Before that point the series felt pretty static, like nothing ever moved forward and no significant changes ever occurred.
Also leads me on a tangent of how much progress we can expect towards taking down the black organization without the series ending immediately afterwards. If they're defeated, a lot of the reason for Conan to hide his identify vanishes. No guarantee that beating the organization = immediate cure, but even in his kid body if he didn't have to hide who he was then at the very least the incentive for the Detective Boys to get together would be gone, plus a bunch of other changes too. The author has shown he can write interesting stuff even without needing the Conan schtick, such as times when he's in his Shinichi body for the entire case. Bringing down the organization/looking for a cure does help tie everything together, but I'm sure the author could come up with a follow-up if he felt motivated to do so.
Haibara almost has the cure down as is she just needs to make it permament if she can get her hands on either A) data from the black organization or B) an actual lab then shed finish pretty quickly
TBH the series is already too long it needs to get to its conclusion already
We need more chapters like these, I love it when the story actually progresses.
doesnt seem like he plans to tell anyone right now, im guessing his plan was to force info out of akai but he failed to get any leverage on him so he was forced to back off for now
On June 06 2014 13:26 Vortok wrote: So apparently Subaru's previous, burned down residence is a case of 'however improbable.' Guess I can work with that, given the bazillion Holmes' references throughout the series.
It also seems like he might be joining the club of 'people who aren't braindead after observing Conan' fairly soon. Which of course means means he wasn't actually told yet.
He's aware Conan is Shinichi, although he's probably not fully aware of exactly why he's in the form of a child. I doubt he was told anything about it and is simply aware because he's not brain dead. I'm sure he figured the black organization has a role in it since shinichi knew so much about them and their existence even though he's just a high school detective and not someone in the FBI, CIA, secret police, etc.
I just watched it the other day. I've almost finally caught up with the current release of the anime. I'm up to episode 735. idk whether I should start looking at the manga too or just wait for a few cases to be released and then watch them.
On August 02 2014 01:38 Shellshock wrote: I just watched it the other day. I've almost finally caught up with the current release of the anime. I'm up to episode 735. idk whether I should start looking at the manga too or just wait for a few cases to be released and then watch them.
I am a huge fan of the anime purely because I feel it can do things with ambiance that a manga just cant do but if you were going to read a manga I will say it is one of the best drawn mangas I have ever seen (I know its a weird compliment but seriously if you look at it the drawing quality is insane).
I guess not all the most recent episodes have been subbed yet or at least I'm having trouble finding subbed ones in some cases. It's not a big deal when they are filler episodes but when like part 2 of a case with actual plot related stuff isn't subbed that kind of sucks
On August 07 2014 15:00 Shellshock wrote: I guess not all the most recent episodes have been subbed yet or at least I'm having trouble finding subbed ones in some cases. It's not a big deal when they are filler episodes but when like part 2 of a case with actual plot related stuff isn't subbed that kind of sucks
Its kind of weird because the anime wasn't being subbed anymore by the usual group but they were still doing the manga but now that they aren't doing any of them it seems like the newest episodes are coming out fairly on schedule by another group since they are taking over both.
well I'm looking right now and I've found episodes 738 and 741 subbed but not 739 which is the 2nd part of the Kogoro Bar case or 740 which is the start of the next one :/
738 isn't subbed and neither is 733 (733 being less of a surprise because fillers can often be delayed) but it seems like someone picked it up because everything after that is subbed and the manga is coming out more regularly as well.
On August 12 2014 08:10 krndandaman wrote: question: are the conan movies totally different from the actual story? or do they have some significance?
and do you have to watch them in order?
the 18th movie just came out here in korea and I'm thinking about going to watch it. if its not really related to the plot I'm going to watch it but if it actually has significance i'm just going to try to find a japanese version with english subs cause I'd rather not watch it korean dubbed then.
They do work as a standalone movies but almost all of them expand on the characters, but some people just like to watch the movies only instead of the main series if they're not into detective series or such because of the lack of action which the movies definitely fix. I quite like most of them, M11-15 are meh in my opinion but they're not bad really. M5 and M13 do certainly spoil and add parts of the plot and M18 has the FBI and some new characters in it from the Bourbon story arc.
I think she set this up to look like a murder when in the end it was an actual suicide. Or something along the lines. She's a tv-drama writer, after all, and all this looks and feels, just, staged.
On September 09 2014 02:08 PVJ wrote: 906 was cool! + Show Spoiler +
I think she set this up to look like a murder when in the end it was an actual suicide. Or something along the lines. She's a tv-drama writer, after all, and all this looks and feels, just, staged.
so howd she manage to hang herself at that height though?
On September 18 2014 06:36 Adreme wrote: Manga is now on break after 908 until end of October because the author is doing a few issues of Magic Kaito.
nice, I like kaito kid.
also has anyone watched the dimension sniper movie? it was pretty good ,although a bit odd that it had almost as much english in it than japanese(jodie's weird ass accent when speaking english though, oh man lol).
edit: Uhm so I just finished watching the newest movie and it was epic as usual but if someone is an anime only person I'd recommend not watching it since there's a pretty huge spoiler that's been revealed fairly recently in the manga and won't happen for a few more months in the anime + Show Spoiler +
They essentially revealed that Akai Shu is alive and who he is
The old Kaito Kid anime was canceled right which is why they're doing this new Magic Kaito 1412. Though it really seems silly that Kaito as a high school kid can show off a ton of crazy magic tricks and not be connected to Kaito Kid. Sure his dad was the original, but Kaito is going to be the new Kaito Kid.
On October 15 2014 12:58 Seeker wrote: Just finished watching Movie 18. I swear... Nothing gets me pumped for this series more than watching a DC movie!!!
I watched Eng-subbed Dimensional Sniper when I was on board an ANA flight in August. I liked it a lot too!
On August 12 2014 08:10 krndandaman wrote: question: are the conan movies totally different from the actual story? or do they have some significance?
and do you have to watch them in order?
the 18th movie just came out here in korea and I'm thinking about going to watch it. if its not really related to the plot I'm going to watch it but if it actually has significance i'm just going to try to find a japanese version with english subs cause I'd rather not watch it korean dubbed then.
On May 02 2015 11:55 Seeker wrote: Just finished watching episode 774 (775 and onward have not been translated yet) THIS ANIME IS SO F*ING GOOD!!!
I don't watch all the episodes (too many, and a lot are kinda bad/filler). But I am interested in the really good arcs that show up every once in a while. Which episode should I start on if I want to watch episode 774 (beginning of arc, or maybe the case before that leads onto that arc)?
On May 02 2015 11:55 Seeker wrote: Just finished watching episode 774 (775 and onward have not been translated yet) THIS ANIME IS SO F*ING GOOD!!!
775 is the only untranslated episode. The rest have not actually aired yet with 776 airing todayish (I dont know what time it airs in Japan).
774 is apparently the pre movie episode and those are usually good. For people who do not know every year right before or right after the movie hits theaters they do a single episode that takes place in the movie timeline and ties into the movie slightly. Depending on when they take place I usually wait until either just before or just after seeing the movie so I can get the context I am suppose to have while watching them.
Basically if you wanted full context of 774 you can wait until the movie comes out but for episodes in general if you want to do dodge filler or only watch episodes featuring certain characters there are quite a few great guides up there for the series as a whole.
On May 02 2015 11:55 Seeker wrote: Just finished watching episode 774 (775 and onward have not been translated yet) THIS ANIME IS SO F*ING GOOD!!!
I don't watch all the episodes (too many, and a lot are kinda bad/filler). But I am interested in the really good arcs that show up every once in a while. Which episode should I start on if I want to watch episode 774 (beginning of arc, or maybe the case before that leads onto that arc)?
DC rarely has arcs though. A lot of the cases are just split into parts 1 and 2 for the most part. I guess I can list off episodes that progress the plot forward for you. But I have no idea where you would want to start from. I'll also list episodes that are really fun and interesting to watch.
Episodes 772 - 773 (Shinichi solves a case before he turns into Conan) Episodes 770 - 771 (Men in Black Organization's Bourbon shows up here) Episodes 759 - 760(The mysterious female high school detective Sera seems to have some kind of secret) Episodes 748 - 749 (Detective Sato is pregnant?!) Episodes 746 - 747 (Sonoko's boyfriend Makoto vs Kaito Kid) Episodes 740 - 741 (The mysterious female high school detective Sera seems to have some kind of secret) Episode 734 (1 hour long episode that involves FBI detective Jodie and Conan trying to figure out if Akai Shuuichi is still alive) Episodes 731 - 732 (Detective Yumi gets a love story arc as well)
On May 02 2015 11:55 Seeker wrote: Just finished watching episode 774 (775 and onward have not been translated yet) THIS ANIME IS SO F*ING GOOD!!!
I don't watch all the episodes (too many, and a lot are kinda bad/filler). But I am interested in the really good arcs that show up every once in a while. Which episode should I start on if I want to watch episode 774 (beginning of arc, or maybe the case before that leads onto that arc)?
DC rarely has arcs though. A lot of the cases are just split into parts 1 and 2 for the most part. I guess I can list off episodes that progress the plot forward for you. But I have no idea where you would want to start from. I'll also list episodes that are really fun and interesting to watch.
Episodes 772 - 773 (Shinichi solves a case before he turns into Conan) Episodes 770 - 771 (Men in Black Organization's Bourbon shows up here) Episodes 759 - 760(The mysterious female high school detective Sera seems to have some kind of secret) Episodes 748 - 749 (Detective Sato is pregnant?!) Episodes 746 - 747 (Sonoko's boyfriend Makoto vs Kaito Kid) Episodes 740 - 741 (The mysterious female high school detective Sera seems to have some kind of secret) Episode 734 (1 hour long episode that involves FBI detective Jodie and Conan trying to figure out if Akai Shuuichi is still alive) Episodes 731 - 732 (Detective Yumi gets a love story arc as well)
Just watched 772 and 773. So apparently the entirety of the Detective Conan series happens within a year. And smartphones existed pre-shrinkage. Wow.
Edit: Although I have to admit the end phone conversation was pretty hilarious.
On May 02 2015 11:55 Seeker wrote: Just finished watching episode 774 (775 and onward have not been translated yet) THIS ANIME IS SO F*ING GOOD!!!
I don't watch all the episodes (too many, and a lot are kinda bad/filler). But I am interested in the really good arcs that show up every once in a while. Which episode should I start on if I want to watch episode 774 (beginning of arc, or maybe the case before that leads onto that arc)?
DC rarely has arcs though. A lot of the cases are just split into parts 1 and 2 for the most part. I guess I can list off episodes that progress the plot forward for you. But I have no idea where you would want to start from. I'll also list episodes that are really fun and interesting to watch.
Episodes 772 - 773 (Shinichi solves a case before he turns into Conan) Episodes 770 - 771 (Men in Black Organization's Bourbon shows up here) Episodes 759 - 760(The mysterious female high school detective Sera seems to have some kind of secret) Episodes 748 - 749 (Detective Sato is pregnant?!) Episodes 746 - 747 (Sonoko's boyfriend Makoto vs Kaito Kid) Episodes 740 - 741 (The mysterious female high school detective Sera seems to have some kind of secret) Episode 734 (1 hour long episode that involves FBI detective Jodie and Conan trying to figure out if Akai Shuuichi is still alive) Episodes 731 - 732 (Detective Yumi gets a love story arc as well)
Just watched 772 and 773. So apparently the entirety of the Detective Conan series happens within a year. And smartphones existed pre-shrinkage. Wow.
Edit: Although I have to admit the end phone conversation was pretty hilarious.
Do not try to think about it in a literal sense of time because they have played fairly fast and loose with that. There have been 2 valentines episodes 4-5 winter break arcs, and Conans phone has upgraded over the years.
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
who cares about her mind? by all rights shes just as young as he is, and anyway hes already shown flags between the 2 and ayumi seems to like conan so id say the worms are out of the can already
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
who cares about her mind? by all rights shes just as young as he is, and anyway hes already shown flags between the 2 and ayumi seems to like conan so id say the worms are out of the can already
Ayumi only likes Conan cause she thinks Conan is an actual child like she is. But when Conan becomes Shinichi again of course he's going to end up with Ran. So Ayumi's going to get her little heart broken but she'll have Mitsuhiko to comfort her. Personally, the whole Mitsuhiko likes Ayumi and Haibara and Ayumi likes Conan thing is the most retarded thing ever in my book. They're f*ing children, why should I give a damn about who likes who when they aren't even out of elementary school yet...?
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
who cares about her mind? by all rights shes just as young as he is, and anyway hes already shown flags between the 2 and ayumi seems to like conan so id say the worms are out of the can already
Ayumi only likes Conan cause she thinks Conan is an actual child like she is. But when Conan becomes Shinichi again of course he's going to end up with Ran. So Ayumi's going to get her little heart broken but she'll have Mitsuhiko to comfort her. Personally, the whole Mitsuhiko likes Ayumi and Haibara and Ayumi likes Conan thing is the most retarded thing ever in my book. They're f*ing children, why should I give a damn about who likes who when they aren't even out of elementary school yet...?
the japanese are just suckers for children falling in love and keeping those feelings for the rest of there lives like nisekoi
and anyway i dont think Haibara cares at all about getting her body back, she has noone waiting for her or anything like that so i think that after all this iver Haibara will just continue on as she has up till this point, keep living with the professer and acting like a normal kid
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
who cares about her mind? by all rights shes just as young as he is, and anyway hes already shown flags between the 2 and ayumi seems to like conan so id say the worms are out of the can already
Just because she has the body of a child does not make her one. I have seen 10 year olds who like they are 25 but that does not mean they can go buy beer and I have seen 18 year olds who could fit in at a middle school and that does not mean they cant drive. Your age is what it is and she is 18 and he is. As Seeker said Ayumi only likes Conan because she thinks he is actually an elementary school kid and that route is going nowhere and everyone knows it so also why it is sort of a dumb route.
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
who cares about her mind? by all rights shes just as young as he is, and anyway hes already shown flags between the 2 and ayumi seems to like conan so id say the worms are out of the can already
Just because she has the body of a child does not make her one. I have seen 10 year olds who like they are 25 but that does not mean they can go buy beer and I have seen 18 year olds who could fit in at a middle school and that does not mean they cant drive. Your age is what it is and she is 18 and he is. As Seeker said Ayumi only likes Conan because she thinks he is actually an elementary school kid and that route is going nowhere and everyone knows it so also why it is sort of a dumb route.
realistically though, why would she want to return to normal? (assuming no side effects emerge)
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
who cares about her mind? by all rights shes just as young as he is, and anyway hes already shown flags between the 2 and ayumi seems to like conan so id say the worms are out of the can already
Just because she has the body of a child does not make her one. I have seen 10 year olds who like they are 25 but that does not mean they can go buy beer and I have seen 18 year olds who could fit in at a middle school and that does not mean they cant drive. Your age is what it is and she is 18 and he is. As Seeker said Ayumi only likes Conan because she thinks he is actually an elementary school kid and that route is going nowhere and everyone knows it so also why it is sort of a dumb route.
realistically though, why would she want to return to normal? (assuming no side effects emerge)
That is the one part I do agree with. She has zero reason to go back, though maybe she will to do a power of friendship transitions ages when it comes to Ayumi, but unless they do that thing that every shoujo manga does where right after basically all conflict is resolved they skip 10 years into the future in order for the couple to get together I can not see your ending actually happening (and even then its weird but it dodges the issue). Incidentally I find it very weird that EVERY shoujo does that and no other genre of manga does typically so it is fairly unlikely but I just put it out there.
On May 04 2015 08:40 oneofthem wrote: lol that's just stupid.
how so? she doesnt have any reason to go back to being an adult, and wasted so much time doing nothing but research and theres definite flags between them
why wouldnt she stay as a kid and live a normal life this time?
Because no matter what her body is she has the mind of an 18 year old girl and mitsuhiko is 6-7 years old. I am almost 100% sure that is not a can of worms any author would ever want to open.
who cares about her mind? by all rights shes just as young as he is, and anyway hes already shown flags between the 2 and ayumi seems to like conan so id say the worms are out of the can already
Just because she has the body of a child does not make her one. I have seen 10 year olds who like they are 25 but that does not mean they can go buy beer and I have seen 18 year olds who could fit in at a middle school and that does not mean they cant drive. Your age is what it is and she is 18 and he is. As Seeker said Ayumi only likes Conan because she thinks he is actually an elementary school kid and that route is going nowhere and everyone knows it so also why it is sort of a dumb route.
realistically though, why would she want to return to normal? (assuming no side effects emerge)
That is the one part I do agree with. She has zero reason to go back, though maybe she will to do a power of friendship transitions ages when it comes to Ayumi, but unless they do that thing that every shoujo manga does where right after basically all conflict is resolved they skip 10 years into the future in order for the couple to get together I can not see your ending actually happening (and even then its weird but it dodges the issue). Incidentally I find it very weird that EVERY shoujo does that and no other genre of manga does typically so it is fairly unlikely but I just put it out there.
well even shonen manga typically do some form of timeskip[ at the end, just generally not as big as Shoujo whos characters typically end up married/pregnant so the timeskip helps jump right to that
it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.
i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.
On May 07 2015 00:35 oneofthem wrote: it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.
i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.
lol character progression/development means we are that much closer to the end(we are pretty close, yet really really far).
On May 07 2015 00:35 oneofthem wrote: it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.
i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.
lol character progression/development means we are that much closer to the end(we are pretty close, yet really really far).
i wouldnt say that one last agent then there after the main boss
where only so far away because theres still so much pointless filler
On May 07 2015 00:35 oneofthem wrote: it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.
i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.
lol character progression/development means we are that much closer to the end(we are pretty close, yet really really far).
i wouldnt say that one last agent then there after the main boss
where only so far away because theres still so much pointless filler
That is the way they are implying but there could very well be TONS more. We still know none of the members of there research division, we know nothing about what they are researching what there goals are. Honestly for all the episodes and characters we have seen the organization itself is still largely a mystery. There have been some hints and clues here and there but nothing concrete and that is years of possible content in and of itself.
Basically only characters in the organization we have met are those involved in there assassinations and soon to be the number 2 but we also have been told that they do tons of other things and we have barely gotten to see any of it.
On May 07 2015 00:35 oneofthem wrote: it's just incredibly poor characterization to write the children into the romance part. they are all teases.
i don't really see any content in ran's emotional or dramatic storyline, it's incredibly generic and thin and only served as a platform for romantic comedy situations. the actual romantic development in this franchise is mostly about haibara.
lol character progression/development means we are that much closer to the end(we are pretty close, yet really really far).
i wouldnt say that one last agent then there after the main boss
where only so far away because theres still so much pointless filler
That is the way they are implying but there could very well be TONS more. We still know none of the members of there research division, we know nothing about what they are researching what there goals are. Honestly for all the episodes and characters we have seen the organization itself is still largely a mystery. There have been some hints and clues here and there but nothing concrete and that is years of possible content in and of itself.
Basically only characters in the organization we have met are those involved in there assassinations and soon to be the number 2 but we also have been told that they do tons of other things and we have barely gotten to see any of it.
all that would be figured out while going after the boss though if you start finding out the calssified secrets then its only one step further to the boss
Hello, first time posting in this thread, but didn't there used to be a list of "plot significant" episodes in the OP? I'm just asking because my nephew wanted to get into the anime from episode one and I'm not sure if they can make it through all of the filler (up to a certain point, they were actually just as good).
EDIT: Ah, stumbled upon the post that said the wiki had markers for episodes. Thanks.
Looking at the episode listing for the anime and it shows it's about to start a long Black Organization arc so I'm hyped for that. Also can anyone identify this random clip. Might be from a movie I don't remember both Kudo (or maybe it's Kaito Kid?) and Haibara turned into an adult at the same time in this setting.
Yes it is that OVA, just watched it. The ending is supposed to be touching, but it's also troubling too. + Show Spoiler +
Ran willing to wait 10 years for Kudo and another 10 years when he doesn't show. The anime has been going on for 20 years so if it wasn't a frozen timeline they would have aged. Ran being loyal to someone who essentially doesn't exist anymore is crazy and sad.
It's a regular length episode so they don't go very far with the concept of Conan being aged up, but worth watching to see Detective Boys grown up.
Been reading up on the latest chapters that have been released. Some seriously awesome plot progressions are finally happening. What do you guys think?
2 treasures, so crazy but what if shes Rans grandmother? the 2 treasure would be Ran and her mother, seems like the BO has been working on eternal youth shit with the wierd side effect from the poison and that wierd riddle she gave the programmer that one time
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). I've always enjoyed the filler cases, but I must agree that Gosho should focus more on the main story right now, too much side stories are never good (I quit reading Naruto because of that)
