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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 21 2013 15:42 GMT
#581
I also forgot about Big Boi and Dre present..Outkast. That was actually my first album of theirs that I bought (or one of them). It introduced me to some of their older classics, which then made me want to check their older stuff. That was also the introduction of Killer Mike in that 'The Whole World' song (not one of my favs).
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 21 2013 16:57 GMT
#582
On July 21 2013 23:47 Eufouria wrote:
I didn't count that because that featured and had production from 3000 but yeah that's a good album too. I guess Speakerboxxx is also technically a solo album. As a hip hop album I didn't like it as much as his other work, but he really did some pretty different stuff and worked with some electric artists, which I thought was pretty cool. It's music you might expect from Kanye West but not from the guy was always more the straight up rapper next to Andre 3000.

His reputation as a straight up rapper was always kinda silly though, he was still on some damn experimental stuff as Outkast even if his subject matter was conventional, it wasn't just Andre pushing the weird music, it was both of them (plus organised noise to a certain degree)
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
July 21 2013 17:38 GMT
#583
On July 21 2013 19:02 Eufouria wrote:
Aquemeni and Stankonia should be required listening for every hip hop fan. It's a shame they're probably never going to release another album now Andre 3000 just makes a career off killing other artists on their own songs.

Has anyone listened to Big Boi's first non-Outkast album Vicious Lies and Dangerous rumours? It's not what you expect from the guy who was always the more traditional rapper in Outkast.

Aquemini > ATLiens > Stankonia

Can't forget ATLiens
RIP Aaliyah
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 21 2013 22:40 GMT
#584
On July 21 2013 13:43 MCDayC wrote:
It took me a hugely long amount of time to finally get to Illmatic, and one day in this thread I'll probably explain why I don't really like the supposed great hip hop album of all time, which I'm sure will drive our fledgling friendship apart MassHysteria.


BTW,u asking if he is in place with the bass and format? Explore rap, and tell me Nas ain't all that.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 22 2013 01:42 GMT
#585
On July 22 2013 07:40 MassHysteria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 13:43 MCDayC wrote:
It took me a hugely long amount of time to finally get to Illmatic, and one day in this thread I'll probably explain why I don't really like the supposed great hip hop album of all time, which I'm sure will drive our fledgling friendship apart MassHysteria.


BTW,u asking if he is in place with the bass and format? Explore rap, and tell me Nas ain't all that.

Sorry, i honestly dont have a clue what you just said
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 02:23:24
July 22 2013 02:15 GMT
#586
By The Way, are you asking if he stays in place with the bass and format? Explore rap, and tell me Nas ain't all that.

Sorry, that was sloppy originally.(and if you are still lost go hear halftime again =) )
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
July 22 2013 07:22 GMT
#587
I don't bump illmatic but you have to recognize how great of an mc Nas is and the influence he had on hip-hop

I don't fuck with Paid In Full anymore because I don't enjoy listening to it much but Rakim is a deity in hip-hop and deservedly so

it's just one of those albums you have to give credit to whether you enjoy listening or not, it's that important
RIP Aaliyah
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
July 22 2013 12:39 GMT
#588
Thanks for the blog, Euforia. It's fun even tho I get most of my "English lessons" from rappers so I don't even feel like the way they talk is weird or w/e. It's actually kinda natural and I have a much easier time understanding rappers than normal people lel.

Here's some videos of the Mobb Deep and KRS One concert I attended not long ago:
KRS One MCs act like they don't know
+ Show Spoiler +



Random BBoys from the audience on stage
+ Show Spoiler +




And Havoc from Mobb Deep
Fuck all y'all plus Mobb Deep - It's mine
+ Show Spoiler +




I liked the Havoc (Prodigy wasn't allowed to travel Europe and they ended up cancelling the entire tour) a lot better than KRS One. KRS had a bigger audience (probably because prodigy didn't show up and they had to change location) and bboys and as far as I could tell the audience was a lot more mature, but Havoc came with the crazy energy. And the location was dope actually, the place was rather small so you had a real easy time getting close to him and all, I liked that. Probably not gonna see Kendrick anytime soon tho, but I'm def gonna see wu tang next month. All members on stage, damn.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 22 2013 14:58 GMT
#589
If you are lost on my posts above, in the song Halftime (where I got MH from), Nas goes..
Versatile, my style switches like a faggot
But not bisexual, I'm an intellectual
Of rap I'm a professional and that's no question, yo
These are the lyrics of the man, you can't near it, understand?
Cause in the streets, I'm well-known like the number man
Am I in place with the bass and format
Explore rap and tell me "Nas ain't all that"
And next time I rhyme, I be foul
Whenever I freestyle I see trial, niggas say I'm wild..
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 22 2013 15:23 GMT
#590
Of all the verse to pick, you had to pick one which had Nas was being homophobic, goddam he just can't do good in my eyes
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 15:34:55
July 22 2013 15:34 GMT
#591
On July 22 2013 16:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I don't bump illmatic but you have to recognize how great of an mc Nas is and the influence he had on hip-hop

I don't fuck with Paid In Full anymore because I don't enjoy listening to it much but Rakim is a deity in hip-hop and deservedly so

it's just one of those albums you have to give credit to whether you enjoy listening or not, it's that important

This. (Although I still listen to Illmatic every now and then.) If you listen to rap from before Illmatic came out rappers rhymes were a lot simpler, the rhymes in Illmatic are really complex for now, but at the time it was unheard of and it changed rap forever because afterwards a lot of MC's started trying to replicate Nas. There are beats on that album that nobody at the time would have known how to rap over, Busta Rhymes actually passed on the Halftime beat and look (above) at what Nas did with it.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 22 2013 15:39 GMT
#592
You're prob kidding, but other than the word 'faggot' there isn't homophobia yo. And this was 1994, before all the LGBT movement of the last 20 years. Just want to put it out there.

A little off-topic, but a lot of people aren't fair when comparing eras. You have to consider when something was released. If people say this was really good back in the days it was for a reason. It might not seem that good anymore because the people that came after him have perfected upon it that much more.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
July 22 2013 17:34 GMT
#593
Check this one, it's how I got introduced to Nas
+ Show Spoiler +



First time I heard this I was like, damn this is smooth. And it was and that's that. And I agree with what MassHysteria said, you always gotta consider when stuff was released. Illmatic dropped in '94, it's mind boggling to me that a song like Memory Lane can be so old, but yet feel so fresh and on point. Same with Wu, when you actually consider that 36 chambers came out in '93 and tracks like protect ya neck or M.E.T.H.O.D Man even a year or 2 earlier then it's just crazy.
I think interviews are always a good way to find more appreciation for an artist. You can't say you like rap when you don't like Nas, simple as that.
+ Show Spoiler +


MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 03:36:37
July 22 2013 22:18 GMT
#594
Verbal Intercourse <3..props Decaf. One of the first one ones I heard of Nas too. At least that made me go whoaa, I need to check out his older stuff.


edit: omg guys I just got taken back to my high school days with this haha + Show Spoiler +

Funny, because these 2 songs ended up being their whole career. (Last one was the post break-up jam of the year =P)
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 23 2013 07:43 GMT
#595
Anyone have any useful sites to look out for up coming Rap and Hip Hop albums being released? Since Spotify went retard mode and added in some stupid "Suggest" category and taken over the "Whats New" bit i have hardly noticed any new albums come out so will probably have to go back to finding things myself. Anyone use anything?
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 23 2013 09:55 GMT
#596
I just wanna say that Madvilliany is a work of fucking inspired genius, gottam.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 23 2013 11:56 GMT
#597
On July 23 2013 18:55 MCDayC wrote:
I just wanna say that Madvilliany is a work of fucking inspired genius, gottam.

Yes it is. If you like it you should listen to Madlib's other collaboration albums and J Dilla's albums too.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 23 2013 11:58 GMT
#598
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 23 2013 20:39 GMT
#599
I loved the cool, FnL 1 was fantastic. But his releases since then have fallen off and his last album was boring
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
July 23 2013 21:16 GMT
#600
On July 22 2013 00:42 MassHysteria wrote:
I also forgot about Big Boi and Dre present..Outkast. That was actually my first album of theirs that I bought (or one of them). It introduced me to some of their older classics, which then made me want to check their older stuff. That was also the introduction of Killer Mike in that 'The Whole World' song (not one of my favs).

The Whole World is one of my favourite Outkast songs but I 100% can not stand Killer Mike's verse. It is one of the single worst verses I've ever heard on a legit hip hop record.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
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