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On July 21 2013 03:51 Zax19 wrote:
I was expecting terrible dialogue, characters, story but great action, yet even the action wasn't very good. It was all extremely slow, no tension, simply boring and too few of them for the length of the film :/. Considering SF in 2013 so far, it wasn't as bad as After Earth, Oblivion or Star Trek Into Darkness but I had a lot more fun watching Iron Man 3 or Man of Steel.
You call Star Trek bad but Iron Man 3 good? What lol....
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On July 21 2013 04:50 Faster69 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 04:49 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 21 2013 04:12 Faster69 wrote:On July 21 2013 03:16 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 21 2013 01:24 Faster69 wrote:
Saw it expecting alot with all this talk and good reviews. And it was good but i was a bit let down. The action was pretty meh, sure it had good scenes but the fighting was pretty repetitive imo. Id pick transformers anyday. At least transformers had better eye candy, cool transformations and the action was much cooler and better paced. But Pacific Rim was still a pretty good movie but I was a bit dissapointed. I haven't even seen this movie and I know that's just wrong. Transformers is one of the worst things ever made. You haven't seen it, therefore what you say is irrelevant. Transformers was so bad that there is literally no movie that could be worse than it. There are equally bad movies, but nothing worse. It just BARELY qualified as a movie itself. Just stop while you're ahead
http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag/transformers-dark-of-the-moon/
I think you need this. It will help you understand and begin the healing process.
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watched it, was ok in the cinema, but i certainly wouldn't watch this on DVD.
no story, no character progression (and thats really sad for a story including a 5 years break), and bad cuts and camera angles
most of the time you try to figure out whats happening. every fight happening in water, at night or both certainly doesnt help here.
there are some really cheesy dialogues, and even the idealistic speech of an old veteran isnt missing.
i guess the ridiculous high imdb score will settle at a 6 when more people have seen it. it doesnt deserve more.
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On July 21 2013 04:50 Faster69 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 04:49 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 21 2013 04:12 Faster69 wrote:On July 21 2013 03:16 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 21 2013 01:24 Faster69 wrote:
Saw it expecting alot with all this talk and good reviews. And it was good but i was a bit let down. The action was pretty meh, sure it had good scenes but the fighting was pretty repetitive imo. Id pick transformers anyday. At least transformers had better eye candy, cool transformations and the action was much cooler and better paced. But Pacific Rim was still a pretty good movie but I was a bit dissapointed. I haven't even seen this movie and I know that's just wrong. Transformers is one of the worst things ever made. You haven't seen it, therefore what you say is irrelevant. Transformers was so bad that there is literally no movie that could be worse than it. There are equally bad movies, but nothing worse. It just BARELY qualified as a movie itself. Just stop while you're ahead
Transformers 2-3 are crimes against cinema. It is almost creepy the way Bay films the girl in Bayformers 3 and the way he lingers over her every curve. The first shot of the movie was a shot FILLED with her ass, IN 3D. I like a pretty girl as much as the next guy, but all I can think is that Bay behind the camera filming that girl like some creeper.
The movie is a mess, front to back and almost unwatchable. There is an entire scene where the main character screams over and over while his car gets thrown around and then Bumble Bee smashes through the wall and threatens some people.
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On July 21 2013 04:56 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 04:50 Faster69 wrote:On July 21 2013 04:49 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 21 2013 04:12 Faster69 wrote:On July 21 2013 03:16 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 21 2013 01:24 Faster69 wrote:
Saw it expecting alot with all this talk and good reviews. And it was good but i was a bit let down. The action was pretty meh, sure it had good scenes but the fighting was pretty repetitive imo. Id pick transformers anyday. At least transformers had better eye candy, cool transformations and the action was much cooler and better paced. But Pacific Rim was still a pretty good movie but I was a bit dissapointed. I haven't even seen this movie and I know that's just wrong. Transformers is one of the worst things ever made. You haven't seen it, therefore what you say is irrelevant. Transformers was so bad that there is literally no movie that could be worse than it. There are equally bad movies, but nothing worse. It just BARELY qualified as a movie itself. Just stop while you're ahead http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag/transformers-dark-of-the-moon/I think you need this. It will help you understand and begin the healing process.
RLM just did a review of Pacific Rim too :D Looks decent
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On July 21 2013 02:06 riotjune wrote:
Lol, settle down kadaver
Wat, did you just call out a mod for warning you? just... why? >_>
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Pacific Rim is incomparably better than Transformers. Lol@the guy who said the fights we slow and had no tension.
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Great movie. Loved it for what it was. Sick as fuck giant robots fighting monsters from another universe.
Could have done with a little less talking and another big fight.
I liked how there was a sense of realism to it + Show Spoiler +How they set up the story/ the world uniting and how they described what the robots were built out of. Also the harvesting black market of the dead kaiju bodies. Stuff like that. Kinda lame how fast the chinese and russian jeagers went down in the fight, but I realize they have to move the movie along, but that is where I would have liked another big fight with the jeagers and less talking from charley.
Really fun in theaters. 8/10
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Just coming from the theater, and I thoroughly enjoyed that film. It is a thrill and will become a classic. I expected big robot badassery and got it.
Now, there's just something i want to answer to : I see a lot of people say the acting was BAD, the plot was BAD, no character development, etc, but the movie was AWESOME. I don't understand. The movie wasn't only robots fighting monsters, how can a film be AWESOME if half of it is BAD. How can it be so much better better than transformers, that did have BAD acting and BAD plot, and good-ish action.
I mean, the acting wasn't stellar, but apart from the main character who isn't the most charismatic, and the kinda over the top cheesy scientists, the performances are solid.
They play simple characters, that have simple but believable motivations, and a simple goal.
The plot is the same. It isn't as much BAD as it is simple. It does have some holes. Some are I think motivated by the pace of the film, like the kaijus always coming 1 by 1 in the beginning, but some may be answered in the long version. There are also some interesting sub-plots like the black market, the kaiju toys thing, or the "starification" of the pilots.
That film's simplicity has a certain purity to it. It doesn't over complicates or over explains. The pilots are just that, pilots, that are chosen for their fighting skills and ability to link-up with someone else. The main character even says at the beginning that he wasn't the brightest guy in the block.
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meh, B/B+ movie. Giant robots armed with ranged weapons engage monsters with no ranged weapons in fist fights because why not, drag a tanker to use as a club instead of using the handy dandy sword they have which they completely forget about until they almost die. Giant super robot is *ANALOG*, thus conveniently saving the world because for some reason in 2090 or whatever they decided to make one emergency analog robot while everyone else is digital. Surprised they skipped the steam powered robot. Movie studio conveniently injects China in a positive spin to boost up sales in the mainland.
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Some of you couldn't detect sarcasm (it wasn't exactly winking over the phone) but was somehow able to infer I was challenging a mod (taboo). Evidently, you shouldn't take everything so seriously as you probably won't enjoy the movie this way.
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everyone has their own opinions and i respect that. I just think transformers was 10x better.
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I really enjoyed this movie. Hopefully it does well enough so that Del Torro has the green light to make a sequel. I want more Ron Pearlman next time. If there was one thing I would have changed, it would be more screen time for the for the Russian and Chinese robots. I was hoping the Russian bot could do a piledriver or something since one of the pilots kinda looks like Zangief.
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Well it has giant robots vs giant monsters so I don't hate it ... (who would?? :O)
But the acting was really bad ... IMDB gave it a 8/10 which was a bit way too much imo. Personally it's a 6.5/10 for me...
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On July 21 2013 10:16 Faster69 wrote:
everyone has their own opinions and i respect that. I just think transformers was 10x better.
And I respectfully disagree. Bad action where you can't tell what's going on at all, glorification of the military (that shit was almost a paid advertisement), overt sexualization of women to the point that they really are objects and not people, and really, really mind numbingly stupid shit like rascist robots makes the transformers series a really bad movie series.
Both movies had some plot holes where you had to suspend disbelief, but at least Pacific Rim made an honest attempt to create a very interesting universe with a compelling and small-detail oriented background environment (Kaiju bones in Hong Kong, political climate created by Kaiju attacks, black market Kaiju parts, Jaeger pilot stardom, etc.), which I definitely think was a lot more convincing and required less suspension of disbelief. And the action scenes were way, way fuckin' better, you could actually tell what's going on in every fight scene.
I will be really, really disappointed if this movie does not make it's money back. I definitely want them to make more.
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On July 21 2013 10:27 BallinWitStalin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 10:16 Faster69 wrote:
everyone has their own opinions and i respect that. I just think transformers was 10x better. And I respectfully disagree. Bad action where you can't tell what's going on at all, glorification of the military (that shit was almost a paid advertisement), overt sexualization of women to the point that they really are objects and not people, and really, really mind numbingly stupid shit like rascist robots makes the transformers series a really bad movie series. Both movies had some plot holes where you had to suspend disbelief, but at least Pacific Rim made an honest attempt to create a very interesting universe with a compelling and small-detail oriented background environment (Kaiju bones in Hong Kong, political climate created by Kaiju attacks, black market Kaiju parts, Jaeger pilot stardom, etc.), which I definitely think was a lot more convincing and required less suspension of disbelief. And the action scenes were way, way fuckin' better, you could actually tell what's going on in every fight scene. I will be really, really disappointed if this movie does not make it's money back. I definitely want them to make more.
Ehh,you can barely see what was going on in all of the fights in pacific Rim, and the story was MUCH less believable than transformers. Did you see that portal in the ocean and the inside? comeon now. Transformers action was way way better
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And there is no way Pacific Rim will top Transformers in money made lol.
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On July 21 2013 10:30 Faster69 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 10:27 BallinWitStalin wrote:On July 21 2013 10:16 Faster69 wrote:
everyone has their own opinions and i respect that. I just think transformers was 10x better. And I respectfully disagree. Bad action where you can't tell what's going on at all, glorification of the military (that shit was almost a paid advertisement), overt sexualization of women to the point that they really are objects and not people, and really, really mind numbingly stupid shit like rascist robots makes the transformers series a really bad movie series. Both movies had some plot holes where you had to suspend disbelief, but at least Pacific Rim made an honest attempt to create a very interesting universe with a compelling and small-detail oriented background environment (Kaiju bones in Hong Kong, political climate created by Kaiju attacks, black market Kaiju parts, Jaeger pilot stardom, etc.), which I definitely think was a lot more convincing and required less suspension of disbelief. And the action scenes were way, way fuckin' better, you could actually tell what's going on in every fight scene. I will be really, really disappointed if this movie does not make it's money back. I definitely want them to make more. Ehh,you can barely see what was going on in all of the fights in pacific Rim, and the story was MUCH less believable than transformers. Did you see that portal in the ocean and the inside? comeon now. Transformers action was way way better
I really don't even understand how you can say that, lol. First of all, Pacific Rim at least made an honest attempt at portraying how the world might collectively react to crazy ass shit like that happening. And I fail to see how a portal at the bottom of the ocean makes less sense that a bunch of robots trying to bring their robot world to ours to enslave humanity because I hear naked apes make really good slaves...
Secondly, Transformers was all whirling balls of steel and ridiculous motorcycle stunts. In Pacific Rim you could see every punch, every throw, etc., and they used anticipation well in all of the fight scenes.
And yeah, quantity of money made does not mean good. I just want Pacific Rim to do good so they make more. The amount of money transformers made is irrelevant to me, except to make me a little bit sad that people like such shitty movies so much. But whatever, to each their own.
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On July 21 2013 08:05 Jukei wrote:
Just coming from the theater, and I thoroughly enjoyed that film. It is a thrill and will become a classic. I expected big robot badassery and got it.
Now, there's just something i want to answer to : I see a lot of people say the acting was BAD, the plot was BAD, no character development, etc, but the movie was AWESOME. I don't understand. The movie wasn't only robots fighting monsters, how can a film be AWESOME if half of it is BAD. How can it be so much better better than transformers, that did have BAD acting and BAD plot, and good-ish action.
I mean, the acting wasn't stellar, but apart from the main character who isn't the most charismatic, and the kinda over the top cheesy scientists, the performances are solid.
They play simple characters, that have simple but believable motivations, and a simple goal.
The plot is the same. It isn't as much BAD as it is simple. It does have some holes. Some are I think motivated by the pace of the film, like the kaijus always coming 1 by 1 in the beginning, but some may be answered in the long version. There are also some interesting sub-plots like the black market, the kaiju toys thing, or the "starification" of the pilots.
That film's simplicity has a certain purity to it. It doesn't over complicates or over explains. The pilots are just that, pilots, that are chosen for their fighting skills and ability to link-up with someone else. The main character even says at the beginning that he wasn't the brightest guy in the block.
I wrote one of those good/bad split reviews. For me the movie has most things in the right place, but lacks a certain polish. There is a tangible difference between something fully-realized and something a studio just cobbled together. Guillermo's mechs and creatures are the best realized objects in this movie, but the characters are some of the worst. Mainly I thought the plotting could have been handled more elegantly, it's just not quite there. But that doesn't necessarily make it a bad movie. The barometer for 'good' is the good stuff minus the bad, and Pacific Rim still comes out positive.
Which is why I think Transformers 2/3 is critically panned and Pacific Rim is praised: Guillermo del Toro tries the right things and sometimes falls short, but you can sniff the beginnings of something good. If only Guillermo had more time! (I heard he had some 20-hour workdays to get the movie done on time.) Transformers 3 is largely unsalvageable, from the start. Pacific Rim is stupid for the sake of fun, and I think that's okay. Some parts of Transformers, I find, are just plain stupid. For the record, I liked the first Transformers movie.
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People might like Transformers more in a vacuum, but the problem is that:
Pacific Rim set out to be a Kaiju movie, and is exactly that.
Transformers set out to be a Transformers movie, and ends up as an abomination.
If people never saw Kaiju films or early transformers, it's not that big of an issue, but it's pretty damning otherwise.
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