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Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
July 14 2013 00:50 GMT
#421
Another crap without any story. How many films leeching from transformers we will see? I have respect for guys behind graphics, but its pure show-off.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
July 14 2013 01:12 GMT
#422
all that it needed was a JAM Project insert song
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 14 2013 01:13 GMT
#423
On July 14 2013 10:12 Milkis wrote:
all that it needed was a JAM Project insert song

If JAM Project started playing in that Hong Kong fight, then I don't know what I would have done, haha
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Nvmz
Profile Joined December 2011
34 Posts
July 14 2013 01:14 GMT
#424
STRINGER BELL FROM THE WIREEEEEE
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 01:38:02
July 14 2013 01:19 GMT
#425
On July 14 2013 09:20 renoB wrote:
Haha I have a few questions to add to this as well. It was an excellent movie, but the nerd in me had to question some things.

+ Show Spoiler +

Why would people still live on the coast lines? I think after the second one, I would have gotten the fuck out of there.

Wouldn't there also be like crazy waves when you drop tons of metal into the ocean? Yet another reason to evacuate the pacific coast....

When they surface in their capsules after being at the bottom of the ocean, wouldn't they need to decompress since they were under so much pressure? They just stand up like its no big deal.

Why was there a button to turn the reactor in the gypsy into a bomb?

In one of the fights he shoots out all the coolant on one side of the jaeger. Wouldn't they need that to cool down their nuclear reactor?

Why did the kaiju's keep attacking one at a time? At the end we see that they can just stay and guard, so why didn't the first few just stay and guard and wait for more to come through?

Also, do you think Paul Krugman came up with the idea to build the wall?



+ Show Spoiler +

There's plenty of areas nowadays that undergo regular natural disasters that people still live in. 15 years is almost certainly too small of a time scale for everyone on the coast to simply pack up and move, barring at bayonet point. Especially considering that humanity was curbstomping the monsters for most of that time.

Same reason why people in submarines don't suffer from decompression sickness. The bends are caused by external pressure on the body; you don't get dissolved nitrogen if external pressure equals atmospheric pressure. Your inner nerd credentials are lacking.

It's built to kill giant monsters, why wouldn't you weaponize the reactor?

He shoots some of the left-side coolant out, watch the movie again and listen for his exact words.

The link between the two worlds is stated to be narrow and gradually-widening. Why give the humans years to build extra defenses or plan an offensive? More importantly, the last ones stayed to guard after they read the offensive plan from the scientists...they had no clue that their weakness was discovered before that.

Sounds more like a McConnell idea. Out of sight, out of mind.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
July 14 2013 01:47 GMT
#426
On July 14 2013 10:19 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 09:20 renoB wrote:
Haha I have a few questions to add to this as well. It was an excellent movie, but the nerd in me had to question some things.

+ Show Spoiler +

Why would people still live on the coast lines? I think after the second one, I would have gotten the fuck out of there.

Wouldn't there also be like crazy waves when you drop tons of metal into the ocean? Yet another reason to evacuate the pacific coast....

When they surface in their capsules after being at the bottom of the ocean, wouldn't they need to decompress since they were under so much pressure? They just stand up like its no big deal.

Why was there a button to turn the reactor in the gypsy into a bomb?

In one of the fights he shoots out all the coolant on one side of the jaeger. Wouldn't they need that to cool down their nuclear reactor?

Why did the kaiju's keep attacking one at a time? At the end we see that they can just stay and guard, so why didn't the first few just stay and guard and wait for more to come through?

Also, do you think Paul Krugman came up with the idea to build the wall?



+ Show Spoiler +

It's built to kill giant monsters, why wouldn't you weaponize the reactor?


+ Show Spoiler +
physically impossible

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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
July 14 2013 01:53 GMT
#427
I suppose you guys watched it in 3D right? Should I watch the movie in 3D or not?
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 14 2013 01:58 GMT
#428
On July 14 2013 10:47 N.geNuity wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
physically impossible



+ Show Spoiler +
Unless you use weapons-grade uranium for the fuel.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
July 14 2013 02:11 GMT
#429
On July 14 2013 10:58 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 10:47 N.geNuity wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
physically impossible



+ Show Spoiler +
Unless you use weapons-grade uranium for the fuel.


+ Show Spoiler +
no, reactors cannot explode like a bomb no matter what happens. The geometry makes it physically impossible.

just having weapons grade material doesn't set off a nuclear bomb. It requires very specific design and has to be assembled in a single mass
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_can't_a_nuclear_power_reactor_explode_like_a_fission_bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_criticality#Nuclear_weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design
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nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
July 14 2013 02:45 GMT
#430
That was awesome, I do wish the Cherno Alpha and the Crimsion Typhoon got more screen time
I was an athiest until I watched the Day[9] daily
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 02:51:21
July 14 2013 02:51 GMT
#431
On July 14 2013 11:11 N.geNuity wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

just having weapons grade material doesn't set off a nuclear bomb. It requires very specific design and has to be assembled in a single mass
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_can't_a_nuclear_power_reactor_explode_like_a_fission_bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_criticality#Nuclear_weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design


+ Show Spoiler +

Current reactors are designed specifically to prevent nuclear incidents, that's why they go through the small rods and failsafes business. There's absolutely no reason why nuclear reactors cannot be built to achieve an uncontrolled nuclear reaction via a gun-type bomb (or even implosion), if that is considered a design feature rather than a bug.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 03:32:22
July 14 2013 03:05 GMT
#432
On July 14 2013 11:51 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 11:11 N.geNuity wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

just having weapons grade material doesn't set off a nuclear bomb. It requires very specific design and has to be assembled in a single mass
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_can't_a_nuclear_power_reactor_explode_like_a_fission_bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_criticality#Nuclear_weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design


+ Show Spoiler +

Current reactors are designed specifically to prevent nuclear incidents, that's why they go through the small rods and failsafes business. There's absolutely no reason why nuclear reactors cannot be built to achieve an uncontrolled nuclear reaction via a gun-type bomb (or even implosion), if that is considered a design feature rather than a bug.


edit: I should say the movie is fun lol. I enjoyed it.
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't mean to detract the thread too much but nuclear reactors are physically impossible to be a bomb

you cannot have a reactor and a bomb mechanism in the same place; nuclear reactors cannot just stick in pure U-235 for the reactor. The fuel is in a geometry that includes spacing, cladding, etc etc etc (or even more simply, the fuel itself is uranium oxide, TRISO pellets, etc; the fuel is not just a chunk of single uranium mass). you cannot get a bomb from the geometry.

going supercritical also does not make a bomb. a good example is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core

which was Pu-239 pit (weapons grade plutonium) that went supercritical
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_(nuclear_weapon)

this is of interest to me because I am a nuclear engineer student**

*not quite finished yet, should clarify that
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LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
July 14 2013 03:17 GMT
#433
On July 14 2013 10:53 alypse wrote:
I suppose you guys watched it in 3D right? Should I watch the movie in 3D or not?

You should just not see it.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 03:34:02
July 14 2013 03:24 GMT
#434
On July 14 2013 12:05 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 11:51 acker wrote:
On July 14 2013 11:11 N.geNuity wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

just having weapons grade material doesn't set off a nuclear bomb. It requires very specific design and has to be assembled in a single mass
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_can't_a_nuclear_power_reactor_explode_like_a_fission_bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_criticality#Nuclear_weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design


+ Show Spoiler +

Current reactors are designed specifically to prevent nuclear incidents, that's why they go through the small rods and failsafes business. There's absolutely no reason why nuclear reactors cannot be built to achieve an uncontrolled nuclear reaction via a gun-type bomb (or even implosion), if that is considered a design feature rather than a bug.


+ Show Spoiler +
I don't mean to detract the thread too much but nuclear reactors are physically impossible to be a bomb

you cannot have a reactor and a bomb mechanism in the same place; nuclear reactors cannot just stick in pure U-235 for the reactor. The fuel is in a geometry that includes spacing, cladding, etc etc etc (or even more simply, the fuel itself is uranium oxide, TRISO pellets, etc; the fuel is not just a chunk of single uranium mass). you cannot get a bomb from the geometry.

going supercritical also does not make a bomb. a good example is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core

which was Pu-239 pit (weapons grade plutonium) that went supercritical
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_(nuclear_weapon)

this is of interest to me because I am a nuclear engineer

+ Show Spoiler +
I defer to your field experience.

That said, why can't the fuel simply be pure uranium? Is it impossible to maintain a controlled chain reaction?
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
July 14 2013 03:52 GMT
#435
On July 14 2013 10:53 alypse wrote:
I suppose you guys watched it in 3D right? Should I watch the movie in 3D or not?


The 3D was well done for this movie. There were ample scenes where the 3D was really cool such as the HUD popping up, the fights, the water effects, etc. One of the better 3D movies that didn't feel half assed in order to have a "in 3D" marketing ploy.
epicanthic
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong295 Posts
July 14 2013 04:00 GMT
#436
All the people complaining about a lackluster story and character development have missed the point of the movie.

It's robots beating the shit out of giant beasts. That's what you go in expecting, and that's exactly what you get, with mindblowing visuals. It's one of those movies where you go in to be entertained and wowed, and it completely does just that.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 04:30:23
July 14 2013 04:27 GMT
#437
On July 14 2013 12:24 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 12:05 N.geNuity wrote:
On July 14 2013 11:51 acker wrote:
On July 14 2013 11:11 N.geNuity wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

just having weapons grade material doesn't set off a nuclear bomb. It requires very specific design and has to be assembled in a single mass
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_can't_a_nuclear_power_reactor_explode_like_a_fission_bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_criticality#Nuclear_weapons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design


+ Show Spoiler +

Current reactors are designed specifically to prevent nuclear incidents, that's why they go through the small rods and failsafes business. There's absolutely no reason why nuclear reactors cannot be built to achieve an uncontrolled nuclear reaction via a gun-type bomb (or even implosion), if that is considered a design feature rather than a bug.


+ Show Spoiler +
I don't mean to detract the thread too much but nuclear reactors are physically impossible to be a bomb

you cannot have a reactor and a bomb mechanism in the same place; nuclear reactors cannot just stick in pure U-235 for the reactor. The fuel is in a geometry that includes spacing, cladding, etc etc etc (or even more simply, the fuel itself is uranium oxide, TRISO pellets, etc; the fuel is not just a chunk of single uranium mass). you cannot get a bomb from the geometry.

going supercritical also does not make a bomb. a good example is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core

which was Pu-239 pit (weapons grade plutonium) that went supercritical
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_(nuclear_weapon)

this is of interest to me because I am a nuclear engineer

+ Show Spoiler +
I defer to your field experience.

That said, why can't the fuel simply be pure uranium? Is it impossible to maintain a controlled chain reaction?


+ Show Spoiler +
well its less about the criticality stuff and more about what a reactor actually needs to do. Uranium metal won't have the properties good for a reactor or as a fuel form since it can oxidize readily and burn/melt, plus uranium is mined in the form of uranium oxides anyways (in the near future, maybe 15-20 years, japan and US should be good at uranyl extraction from seawater, which basically will mean infinite uranium supply). And briefly googling myself uranium metal isn't a good waste form.

Having all the fuel chunked together in 1 place isn't going to be a good way to heat up a shitton of water as it flows by, at least in my mind. All a reactor does is heat up water in a fancy way, so it's most important on how to heat up the water the best---having the UO2 pellets in easily assembled fuel arrays spaced apart just makes the heat distribution across the reactor not all concentrated in one place, which is good for the water and good to not melt your reactor core and have a good temperature profile. The fuel assemblies in a reactor is going to expand and have a lot of thermal stress on it because it's going to be in a very hot environment, and you don't want to have the fuel experience an actual meltdown instead of what a "Pacific Rim" meltdown is I suppose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_meltdown

uranium metal melts at lower temperatures than the oxide forms; reactor's aren't really about criticality conerns, it's about heat removal from the system (which hopefully get turned into electric generation!). Of course, the heat will be determined by the power level the plant is working at, so you control the power level by controlling criticality (i.e. number of fissions going on)

as far as being able to control solid materials, criticality goes though the first nuclear "reactors" or criticality tests are just various chunks of material afaik like chicago pile 1 was a bunch of uranium sitting around or the other stuff I linked to [demon core plutonium], but those aren't actually "reactors" for electric generation.

i should clarify I am a student in nuclear engineering, really only know the "basics". Of course, people who have worked 40 years in engineering still feel like they only know the "basics"

then there is proliferation concerns always.


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Phtes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States370 Posts
July 14 2013 04:46 GMT
#438
Who watched this for the story of really expected one? Even Guillermo said it was meant to be pure spectacle. In that sense it rocked anything before it and by far put Transformers etc to shame. I saw it in stadium iMax not LieMax and would pay $100 for another ticket to see it if it cost that much...
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 14 2013 05:07 GMT
#439
I feel like people who criticize the story here watch porn and cite poor scripting.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
July 14 2013 05:14 GMT
#440
Glad to see Hunnam, of Sons of Anarchy fame, get a movie role. Pretty cool. He has a very distinct voice. I can see him becoming a next superhero / superactor type of actor. (Think Bruce Willis, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Nic Cage, etc)
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