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peekn
United States1152 Posts
the underdog saving the world (sorry obvious spoilers) the good guys win If you like big action movies and just want to go in for a good time you should go watch this movie. If you even remotely like mecha anime you should definitely go and see this film. At several points during the movie I told the guy that I was with "OMG just like the animes!" | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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17Sphynx17
580 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Fighting the Kaiju, I think the movie clearly shows that the Jaegers clearly have less of a "disadvantage" on land rather than fighting at sea. Why do they keep on insisting on fighting them in the water all these years when they could sacrifice the buildings at the shore to at least ensure a higher chance of victory for their Jaegers? Why is it that they always only send JAeger numbers based on the Kaiju numbers 1 is to 1? It is only near the middle of the movie where they have their first multiple event of having 2 Kaiju's simultaneously and they clearly said they had quite a number of Jaegers before. When the movie is actually moving they already state they are losing their Jaeger's one by one. Why didn't they strategize to protect the cities on land with more than 1 jaeger? The UN seems pretty dumb when they bailed support on the program. Clearly the Chinese were shown to be smarter from their experience from history. Simply relying on building a wall to protect the world from Kaijus? Yup. Great wall was a "Great" learning tool. Plus, just a wall? No defenses on the wall? No turrets even? I felt bad for the Siberian and Chinese Jaeger. Crimson Typhoon had 3 rotating blades that wasn't anything special and was easily dealt with. Cherno Alpha only had a hydraulic punch? And it ran on Diesel generators inside? Also, no weapons? Why did they need to repeatedly drop the head of Gypsy Danger everytime? Why not just leave the head on and tell the pilots to ride with the head on? Is the head kind of like a key that needs to dropped at a specific height to start the Jaeger? And that design only applied to Gypsy so it was kind of for show only. All Jeagers are technicially part digital or fully digital in my opinion so I don't get the analog excuse. It was quite laughable but I let it slide for the story's sake. Oh, and can anyone tell me what happened to the Coyote Jaeger in the story because I for sure don't recall seeing it once. Unless maybe it was what Idras Elba used to pilot? Kind of sad if it was because it looked like a cool mech with no screen time other than seeing parts of it. Does this film have an extended cut? | ||
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lightsentry
413 Posts
On July 13 2013 07:14 PH wrote: You actually thought Man of Steel was better than Pacific Rim? I don't even... The script in Man of Steel was AWFUL. I laughed out loud multiple times throughout the film at the retarded dialogue. The pacing was inconsistent, and they completely destroyed the large amount of potential Shannon had with his Zod by simply deciding to gloss and skip over anything interesting related to him. But yes, the worst part was, the movie took itself seriously. It tried very, very hard, which made its failure even worse and laughable. Going into a film like Pacific Rim, which Guillermo del Toro specifically said was made to be light and exciting, as opposed to dark and gritty like every other movie coming out right now, those similar flaws aren't going to destroy the movie and leave you with a bad taste in your mouth. Well, at least it didn't for me. I can understand why you didn't like Pacific Rim. It was far from a perfect movie, and was not even a good one on a fair and objective scale (as much as I enjoyed it), but honestly...saying it was worse than Man of Steel is just confusing to me. Eh it's all subjective, I think Man of Steel was better than Pacific Rim but that's probably just me. I thought Pacific Rim was pretty good overall and met my expectations and that was about it. I enjoyed it while I was watching it but that's about it. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
Why not just build a giant plasma cannon instead of making robots? Couldnt the aliens make another wormhole? Its not like that explosion was gonna wipe out their whole planet. I know i know i missed the whole point of the movie. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On July 13 2013 19:35 17Sphynx17 wrote: Actually me and my brother found the film to be a fun movie. We have our questions which of course we know is done for pacing/story convenience. They are below in spoilers. + Show Spoiler + Fighting the Kaiju, I think the movie clearly shows that the Jaegers clearly have less of a "disadvantage" on land rather than fighting at sea. Why do they keep on insisting on fighting them in the water all these years when they could sacrifice the buildings at the shore to at least ensure a higher chance of victory for their Jaegers? Why is it that they always only send JAeger numbers based on the Kaiju numbers 1 is to 1? It is only near the middle of the movie where they have their first multiple event of having 2 Kaiju's simultaneously and they clearly said they had quite a number of Jaegers before. When the movie is actually moving they already state they are losing their Jaeger's one by one. Why didn't they strategize to protect the cities on land with more than 1 jaeger? The UN seems pretty dumb when they bailed support on the program. Clearly the Chinese were shown to be smarter from their experience from history. Simply relying on building a wall to protect the world from Kaijus? Yup. Great wall was a "Great" learning tool. Plus, just a wall? No defenses on the wall? No turrets even? I felt bad for the Siberian and Chinese Jaeger. Crimson Typhoon had 3 rotating blades that wasn't anything special and was easily dealt with. Cherno Alpha only had a hydraulic punch? And it ran on Diesel generators inside? Also, no weapons? Why did they need to repeatedly drop the head of Gypsy Danger everytime? Why not just leave the head on and tell the pilots to ride with the head on? Is the head kind of like a key that needs to dropped at a specific height to start the Jaeger? And that design only applied to Gypsy so it was kind of for show only. All Jeagers are technicially part digital or fully digital in my opinion so I don't get the analog excuse. It was quite laughable but I let it slide for the story's sake. Oh, and can anyone tell me what happened to the Coyote Jaeger in the story because I for sure don't recall seeing it once. Unless maybe it was what Idras Elba used to pilot? Kind of sad if it was because it looked like a cool mech with no screen time other than seeing parts of it. Does this film have an extended cut? These are all legitimate concerns. However there were turrets on the wall. You could see them in a few scenes, though we never see them being fired. Also, why didn't Gipsy Danger (iirc they spelled it with an I in the movie not a Y) use the damn sword more often? Pretty much every punch it does would have been 10x more damaging if he had his blade out. In general, why not put giant blades on the fists? They get off a lot of punches which do minimal damage... In general I wish they showed off more countries Jaegers. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On July 14 2013 02:59 On_Slaught wrote: Also, a cool picture showing the size of the Jaegers. Bullshit. Stay Puffed could totally own all of them. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45435 Posts
On July 14 2013 02:59 On_Slaught wrote: Also, a cool picture showing the size of the Jaegers. But,,, but... | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
 To the guy who was asking about Coyote Tango, apparently that was the Jaeger that showed up in Mako's flashback. I expected it to be one of the main units, but oh well. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On July 14 2013 01:25 gameguard wrote: Could have chosen a better female lead. The "romance" between the leads were forced. Why do they care about each other out of the blue (even before the neural connection)? Why are the robots not using weapons? The plasma cannon was the most effective weapon but they only use it as a last resort.. opting to punch the monsters instead. Why not give them some ranged weapons? The whole toxic waste angle is not even really supported in the movie. They cut the shit out of the monsters not subdue them. They blow them up and throw them in water. They repeated shoot a dead kaiju with the plasma cannons to splatter it everywhere. Why not just build a giant plasma cannon instead of making robots? Couldnt the aliens make another wormhole? Its not like that explosion was gonna wipe out their whole planet. I know i know i missed the whole point of the movie. I was under the impression that jaegers like the Gipsy Danger only used its plasma cannon when it needed to. Maybe using the weapon would drain more energy from the engine or whatever source it uses. As for why don't they add more projectile weapons to its jagers, I wouldn't know. The only one comes to mind is Japan's Coyote Tango with its 2 cannons on its back. From a movie standpoint, you can think they just wanted to make the battles more brutal and give an homage to old school monster movies. The movie overall was silly. I mean, scrap the jaeger program to build a giant wall? On July 14 2013 02:51 On_Slaught wrote: These are all legitimate concerns. However there were turrets on the wall. You could see them in a few scenes, though we never see them being fired. Also, why didn't Gipsy Danger (iirc they spelled it with an I in the movie not a Y) use the damn sword more often? Pretty much every punch it does would have been 10x more damaging if he had his blade out. In general, why not put giant blades on the fists? They get off a lot of punches which do minimal damage... In general I wish they showed off more countries Jaegers. Becket didn't know about the swords until Mori activated them. She was one of the engineers they rebuild the Gipsy Danger. They did use it near the end of the movie, but not a whole lot. A lot of other jaegers used them though except for Russia's, which was an older model I believe. I still think China's Crimson Typhoon is boss. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On July 14 2013 01:25 gameguard wrote: Could have chosen a better female lead. The "romance" between the leads were forced. Why do they care about each other out of the blue (even before the neural connection)? Why are the robots not using weapons? The plasma cannon was the most effective weapon but they only use it as a last resort.. opting to punch the monsters instead. Why not give them some ranged weapons? The whole toxic waste angle is not even really supported in the movie. They cut the shit out of the monsters not subdue them. They blow them up and throw them in water. They repeated shoot a dead kaiju with the plasma cannons to splatter it everywhere. Why not just build a giant plasma cannon instead of making robots? Couldnt the aliens make another wormhole? Its not like that explosion was gonna wipe out their whole planet. I know i know i missed the whole point of the movie. Them shooting the Kaiju corpse was more the pilots being reckless, than a reflection of their combat doctrine. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On July 14 2013 08:52 Sentenal wrote: Them shooting the Kaiju corpse was more the pilots being reckless, than a reflection of their combat doctrine. Did you not see the beginning of the movie? Also shooting a Plasma Cannon off when the monsters move etc and fighting near shore next to populated areas... | ||
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JonathanMerklin
United States72 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On July 14 2013 09:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Did you not see the beginning of the movie? Also shooting a Plasma Cannon off when the monsters move etc and fighting near shore next to populated areas... What does that have to do with anything? It was clearly obvious in the beginning that both of Gypsy Danger's pilots were reckless and didn't follow orders. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On July 14 2013 09:15 Sentenal wrote: What does that have to do with anything? It was clearly obvious in the beginning that both of Gypsy Danger's pilots were reckless and didn't follow orders. + Show Spoiler + They shot it and thought it was dead, that is why he said "let's make it sure it is dead" later on in the movie. | ||
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renoB
United States170 Posts
On July 13 2013 19:35 17Sphynx17 wrote: Actually me and my brother found the film to be a fun movie. We have our questions which of course we know is done for pacing/story convenience. They are below in spoilers. + Show Spoiler + Fighting the Kaiju, I think the movie clearly shows that the Jaegers clearly have less of a "disadvantage" on land rather than fighting at sea. Why do they keep on insisting on fighting them in the water all these years when they could sacrifice the buildings at the shore to at least ensure a higher chance of victory for their Jaegers? Why is it that they always only send JAeger numbers based on the Kaiju numbers 1 is to 1? It is only near the middle of the movie where they have their first multiple event of having 2 Kaiju's simultaneously and they clearly said they had quite a number of Jaegers before. When the movie is actually moving they already state they are losing their Jaeger's one by one. Why didn't they strategize to protect the cities on land with more than 1 jaeger? The UN seems pretty dumb when they bailed support on the program. Clearly the Chinese were shown to be smarter from their experience from history. Simply relying on building a wall to protect the world from Kaijus? Yup. Great wall was a "Great" learning tool. Plus, just a wall? No defenses on the wall? No turrets even? I felt bad for the Siberian and Chinese Jaeger. Crimson Typhoon had 3 rotating blades that wasn't anything special and was easily dealt with. Cherno Alpha only had a hydraulic punch? And it ran on Diesel generators inside? Also, no weapons? Why did they need to repeatedly drop the head of Gypsy Danger everytime? Why not just leave the head on and tell the pilots to ride with the head on? Is the head kind of like a key that needs to dropped at a specific height to start the Jaeger? And that design only applied to Gypsy so it was kind of for show only. All Jeagers are technicially part digital or fully digital in my opinion so I don't get the analog excuse. It was quite laughable but I let it slide for the story's sake. Oh, and can anyone tell me what happened to the Coyote Jaeger in the story because I for sure don't recall seeing it once. Unless maybe it was what Idras Elba used to pilot? Kind of sad if it was because it looked like a cool mech with no screen time other than seeing parts of it. Does this film have an extended cut? Haha I have a few questions to add to this as well. It was an excellent movie, but the nerd in me had to question some things. + Show Spoiler + Why would people still live on the coast lines? I think after the second one, I would have gotten the fuck out of there. Wouldn't there also be like crazy waves when you drop tons of metal into the ocean? Yet another reason to evacuate the pacific coast.... When they surface in their capsules after being at the bottom of the ocean, wouldn't they need to decompress since they were under so much pressure? They just stand up like its no big deal. Why was there a button to turn the reactor in the gypsy into a bomb? In one of the fights he shoots out all the coolant on one side of the jaeger. Wouldn't they need that to cool down their nuclear reactor? Why did the kaiju's keep attacking one at a time? At the end we see that they can just stay and guard, so why didn't the first few just stay and guard and wait for more to come through? Also, do you think Paul Krugman came up with the idea to build the wall?  | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On July 14 2013 09:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: + Show Spoiler + They shot it and thought it was dead, that is why he said "let's make it sure it is dead" later on in the movie. Yes, but what I'm saying is that isn't a reflection of official combat doctrine. The whole reason they use Jaegers is to not make a huge mess out of their corpses. | ||
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