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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 12 2013 05:20 GMT
#361
Lol @HB.

Movie itself was quite good. Fight scenes were great, just about what I expected going into it. Went in thinking it as a toned down EVA with characters with a lot less emotional baggage.
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 05:24:20
July 12 2013 05:22 GMT
#362
That kaiju costume LOL
On July 11 2013 23:49 deth2munkies wrote:
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On July 11 2013 21:44 Hyde wrote:
Just came back from the cinemas, obviously I only went for the fight scenes and this movie delivered on that front. I really enjoyed the battles, even if some parts didn't make sense. Story/characters was as you'd expect but who cares, right? This is one of those guilty pleasure films.
Oh yeah, for those who are going to see it, stay for the credits. Normally the cinema's here leave the lights off to let you know there's more in the credits but for some reason they turned on the lights and I darted out only to be told by another friend there was an extra scene.

+ Show Spoiler [for people who watched] +

When that scientist drifted with part of the kaiju's brain, why did the other kaijus know who he was? I mean the brain wasn't connected to anything else? That merchant said it was a two-way street, but the kaiju was freaking dead?

+ Show Spoiler +
Kaiju hivemind.

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't know, still iffy about this. I mean I guess if being able to connect with it means it comes back to life and it can communicate again :S I still thought it was weird.
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 05:29:01
July 12 2013 05:28 GMT
#363
So basicly we see a Zerg vs Giant Iron man. Meh would have liked it more if it were Mechwarrior type of mech's instead of huge ass jumper suits.
It actualy would have firepower in that way aswell, instead we see a fist punch that needs jetpack power to even move.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 05:34:25
July 12 2013 05:33 GMT
#364
Awesome movie. Ron Pearlman was hilarious, watch through the credits.

Idris Elba was fucking amazing such an awesome actor, so was Charlie Day. I wish they would have explored more efforts from other nations though, like where is Europe? Is the US, Japan, China, Russia, and Australia the only ones fighting these things? That and more Space tech stuff.

+ Show Spoiler +

The Hivemind is supposed to be explored more in the next movie.
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
July 12 2013 05:45 GMT
#365
Might go watch it this weekend. Is this kinda like transformers but without a story?
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Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
July 12 2013 05:50 GMT
#366
Kanye West says its one of his favorite movies of all time.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
July 12 2013 05:51 GMT
#367
On July 12 2013 14:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Awesome movie. Ron Pearlman was hilarious, watch through the credits.

Idris Elba was fucking amazing such an awesome actor, so was Charlie Day. I wish they would have explored more efforts from other nations though, like where is Europe? Is the US, Japan, China, Russia, and Australia the only ones fighting these things? That and more Space tech stuff.

+ Show Spoiler +

The Hivemind is supposed to be explored more in the next movie.

yah totally where is europe

who wouldve thought only the countries bordering the pacific ocean would fight
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imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
July 12 2013 05:52 GMT
#368
On July 12 2013 14:45 tshi wrote:
Might go watch it this weekend. Is this kinda like transformers but without a story?

Transformers had a story?

I was thinking this would be more like transformers without Megan Fox falling in love with an annoying idiot no one likes.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34500 Posts
July 12 2013 05:55 GMT
#369
I found it surprisingly good. I expected 2 hours of cgi but it had a surprising amounts of human character development etc. Every fight was there for a reason rather than being there for the sake of being there, and you could actually see what was going on in the fights instead of being Michael Bay'd.

Worth seeing on big screen.
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Ubiquitousdichotomy
Profile Joined January 2013
247 Posts
July 12 2013 05:56 GMT
#370
Watching another talking robot movie will make me kill myself. I will not watch this movie because I still have something to live for.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 12 2013 05:58 GMT
#371
On July 12 2013 14:56 Ubiquitousdichotomy wrote:
Watching another talking robot movie will make me kill myself. I will not watch this movie because I still have something to live for.


The Robots don't talk...
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 07:46:36
July 12 2013 07:13 GMT
#372
Just got back from watching it and I liked it. It was very entertaining with great visuals. I loved the movie's use of vibrant and bold colors such as the fight in Hong Kong. Majority of the movie was quite cheesy, but it was good cheesy. The movie was similar to Independence Day (to me, at least) when you look at it closely such as the kaiju's goal, lead scientist's revelation, the ending, etc without going into spoilers.

The acting was average and I thought Hunnam's performance was the weakest. He only had maybe one or two tone of voice with the very little facial emotion. That would explain why most of the early scenes is him with his shirt off in order to draw attention away from his acting. Kikuchi's performance wasn't stellar either, but I give her a pass since I don't think she is that fluent in English, but I could be wrong. I wished the two scientists would slow down when talking. The followup scene does explain or show what they're talking about, so it wasn't too bad. The hinted romance between Becket and Mori was weak at times, which made me roll my eyes. There has been quite a number of movies that I've seen recently where the romance was not believable at all. In general, the acting was serviceable and did its job.

The fight choreography was badass. I loved how brutal and unforgiving the kaiju were. One of them was pretty cocky too during the fight in Hong Kong. Some of the kaiju were pretty smart by using tactics. It made the movie more intense since the kaiju weren't just brainless monsters. The jaegers were really cool and I liked Australia's Striker the most based on looks, weapons, and how it looked to be the fastest out of all the jaegers in the movie. China's Crimson Typhoon was pretty badass with its three arms and how the pilots used martial arts in their fighting style.

Overall, I thought the movie was a very fun and entertaining movie. The acting was fine for the most part with some cringe worthy dialogue. The movie's soundtrack was decent with a pretty cool and heroic sounding song used during fights. I give this movie a 7/10. It definitely is a good summer blockbuster. I might even pick this up on blu-ray when the price is right.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12636 Posts
July 12 2013 08:11 GMT
#373
I liked the movie quite a lot, lots of cool fighting scenes and definitely didn't let me down on the cgi department.
I was also pleasantly surprised at the fighting scene (when they were doing the test), the fighting looks fluent and not so fake like some other western movies.
Story is cheesy and some part its really hard to know what the scientists were saying, but luckily its not too hard to follow through.
Definitely a cheesy good movie to watch. Would love a little bit less on characters but more on the kaiji side.

My favourite part is when the Japanese little girl running away from the kaiji, it really shows the difference in size between the two and the intense pressure that the kaiji gives.

I wished they could give some time for the other robots to show off too, I was really interested in the Russian one.

7.5 for the movie, add. 5 because it has scenes of Hong Kong, 8 out of 10 for me.

3D is a must for this movie imo
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 12 2013 08:17 GMT
#374
The fighting scenes were fucking amazing. Wow. And I also liked the other smaller subplots as well (the neural connection, the romance was workable, scientific discovery, etc)

This >>>>>> Transformers.

8/10, highly recommended summer blockbuster. Just an extremely entertaining movie, nothing else to say.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
July 12 2013 09:50 GMT
#375
Saw it tonight the Movie is damn near perfect the Monster are awesome the Robots are awesome the Acting was really good. The back story was just so damn good! Go see this movie 10/10 for me Because this movie has everything I could want in a film made me feel like a kid again.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 12 2013 10:33 GMT
#376
Just got back from the theater. It was a terrific revival of the giant monster genre, and a decent shot at a live-action giant robot film.

I'm really glad Guillermo del Toro helmed this film. His touch is evident all over the film, particularly in the action, which while loud, noisy and effects-laden and reliant, still had a coherence to it that didn't leave you feeling distracted like many other big effects films do (most notable and obvious example: the Transformers films). You had a sense of what was going on, and most importantly, both the monsters and the robots had an organic feel to them. Their motion felt plausible, even when staring at an absurdly enormous megazord.

The other area where I feel Guillermo outdid himself was in the cockpit scenes. The way everything moved inside - both the people and the equipment - really contributed to the action scenes quite a bit. He clearly took his talent for breathing life into fantastical creatures and found a successful way to apply it there. The film would have been MUCH less interesting without the cockpits and the pilots inside them giving off as much feeling and character as they did.

But, of course, as you all expected, the plot was thin (which is to be expected), and the characters and their development were even thinner (also to be expected, but still very disappointing). The part that irked me more than anything, though, was Mako, who had so many Asian stereotypes, I was taken aback a little bit. Issues with her character, however, pale in comparison to the main character, Raleigh, who was SOOO 'Murican, I could only laugh. Charlie Day/Burn Gorman, and to a lesser extent, Ron Perlman, all did terrific jobs in their roles. Idris Elba did well considering he was a walking typecast, but there honestly wasn't a whole lot to go off of. The Day/Gorman and Perlman trio gave the film much needed levity to allow you to forgive the terrible melodrama and allow for suspension of disbelief.

All in all, I had a great time, though. The action was terrific, and it was a lot of fun. I'd definitely recommend seeing it. Just remember that it's exactly a summer tentpole, and never intends to be anything more than that. As long as you don't go in intending to take it seriously, it'll be awesome.

On July 12 2013 14:22 Hyde wrote:
That kaiju costume LOL
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 23:49 deth2munkies wrote:
On July 11 2013 21:44 Hyde wrote:
Just came back from the cinemas, obviously I only went for the fight scenes and this movie delivered on that front. I really enjoyed the battles, even if some parts didn't make sense. Story/characters was as you'd expect but who cares, right? This is one of those guilty pleasure films.
Oh yeah, for those who are going to see it, stay for the credits. Normally the cinema's here leave the lights off to let you know there's more in the credits but for some reason they turned on the lights and I darted out only to be told by another friend there was an extra scene.

+ Show Spoiler [for people who watched] +

When that scientist drifted with part of the kaiju's brain, why did the other kaijus know who he was? I mean the brain wasn't connected to anything else? That merchant said it was a two-way street, but the kaiju was freaking dead?

+ Show Spoiler +
Kaiju hivemind.

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't know, still iffy about this. I mean I guess if being able to connect with it means it comes back to life and it can communicate again :S I still thought it was weird.

+ Show Spoiler +
The aliens clearly have command of some non-natural stuff, being able to open a "dimensional rift" or whatever. Suffice to say, they're able to operate on some level beyond the limits of the physical universe.
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LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
July 12 2013 14:52 GMT
#377
I saw it tonight, I hated it. I don't understand how this is receiving almost universal acclaim yet Man of Steel and Transformers are panned as awful turds.

*vague, minor, non-spoilerish spoilers ahead*

The only good aspects of this movie are the robot fights and Idris Alba. The dialogue was horrible. The story was even worse. Why do they call mind-melding 'drifting'? That is the worst descriptor they could possibly use. When I think of drift, I think of tumbleweed in a desert, a piece of rotten wood floating on water, or a car skidding out of control on a gravel road. The last thing I think of is two people's mind working as one (and if that's the case, why the fuck do they yell to each other inside the cockpit?).

*rant incoming*

Why is a Jaeger built in 2013 analogue? Why is there a Newton's cradle to pull me out of one of the only enjoyable parts of the movie? Why can a little girl outrun a sky-scraper tall Alien? Why are the major characters so BORING? Why do the potentially interesting ones (sans Idris Alba) get so little screen time? (I'm looking at you, Russians and Asian triplets!) Why are the scientists depicted as possibly the stupidest people in the entire film? Why does the alien have a paedophile tongue? Why are the Australian accents so AWFUL? Why am I not seeing more robots vs alien action? Why is most of the action set in the ocean, thus giving you no reference frame as to how fucking enormous and awesome these aliens/machines are? Why am I even ranting any more...

The only explanation I can possibly imagine as to why this film is received better than Man of Steel is this movie literally had zero expectations on it's shoulders. Most of the criticism of Man of Steel comes down to people's pre-conceived notions of what should/shouldn't happen in a Superman flick getting shat on. While the film had pacing issues and a few silly moments, over-all the acting, action, and narrative cohesiveness was an order beyond what is offered in Pacific Rim.

tl:dr
Man of Steel shits on Pacific Rim, but is hated because people expected greatness from it yet it has flaws. However, regarding Pacific Rim, people expected a turd but what they got was a very shiny turd, so they're happy.
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
July 12 2013 14:58 GMT
#378
Shhhhhhhhh, dude. People don't like to think about movies.
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 15:04:48
July 12 2013 15:04 GMT
#379
Loved it. I went into it thinking that it would be great fun with some real silly parts, but I came out thinking there wasn't really any part I disliked and thought it was pretty awesome.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 15:28:25
July 12 2013 15:22 GMT
#380
On July 12 2013 23:52 LilClinkin wrote:
I saw it tonight, I hated it. I don't understand how this is receiving almost universal acclaim yet Man of Steel and Transformers are panned as awful turds.

*vague, minor, non-spoilerish spoilers ahead*

The only good aspects of this movie are the robot fights and Idris Alba. The dialogue was horrible. The story was even worse. Why do they call mind-melding 'drifting'? That is the worst descriptor they could possibly use. When I think of drift, I think of tumbleweed in a desert, a piece of rotten wood floating on water, or a car skidding out of control on a gravel road. The last thing I think of is two people's mind working as one (and if that's the case, why the fuck do they yell to each other inside the cockpit?).

*rant incoming*

Why is a Jaeger built in 2013 analogue? Why is there a Newton's cradle to pull me out of one of the only enjoyable parts of the movie? Why can a little girl outrun a sky-scraper tall Alien? Why are the major characters so BORING? Why do the potentially interesting ones (sans Idris Alba) get so little screen time? (I'm looking at you, Russians and Asian triplets!) Why are the scientists depicted as possibly the stupidest people in the entire film? Why does the alien have a paedophile tongue? Why are the Australian accents so AWFUL? Why am I not seeing more robots vs alien action? Why is most of the action set in the ocean, thus giving you no reference frame as to how fucking enormous and awesome these aliens/machines are? Why am I even ranting any more...

The only explanation I can possibly imagine as to why this film is received better than Man of Steel is this movie literally had zero expectations on it's shoulders. Most of the criticism of Man of Steel comes down to people's pre-conceived notions of what should/shouldn't happen in a Superman flick getting shat on. While the film had pacing issues and a few silly moments, over-all the acting, action, and narrative cohesiveness was an order beyond what is offered in Pacific Rim.

tl:dr
Man of Steel shits on Pacific Rim, but is hated because people expected greatness from it yet it has flaws. However, regarding Pacific Rim, people expected a turd but what they got was a very shiny turd, so they're happy.


Simply: Because it's an unironic genre film.

The problem with Man of Steel was it was trying too hard to ape The Dark Knight, people that are tired of the angst driven superheroes and all of the toned down realism that accompanied that particular wave of movies are refreshed by the unironic, over the top, straightforward action of Pacific Rim, and I agree with them.

I'd still give it 8/10 because, you're right, the characters are pretty flat, but at least they don't have them sitting there talking to each other about pseudo-philosophical shit for 2/3 of the movie.

Also, this movie was exactly what everyone expected it to be: awesome fight scenes of mech on monster action. Yeah, it did sag in the middle a bit, but overall, the action was the focus. It lived up to exactly what people wanted, they weren't expecting a movie that made them question humanity or shit like that, they wanted one where giant robots punched giant monsters in the face repeatedly, and they got it.

Man of Steel did a lot of stuff, but among them, it fucked with an established character in a bunch of different ways that alienated the purists, and it focused on the psychological aspects of being a superhero rather than the fact that he's FUCKING SUPERMAN and can punch massive things and turn back the world by flying really fast. The purists hated the changes, comic book fans hated the gritty realism instead of the fantasy that comics offered. People expected Superman and got a grimdark deconstruction of him instead. That's why people were let down.
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