[Movie] The Hunger Games

the way she handles the narration of the romance. To be fair maybe it is a consequence of the first person perspective but it reads like a 16yr old's fan fiction.

teared up when Rue died...if you didn't you don't have a heart

Katniss doesn't just put on a dress and twirl. She's thinking the entire time about the effect that her interview with Caesar will have on giving her sponsors and how she's doesn't have a good enough personality to do it. She doesn't just have one person give her advice and then follow that advice. She has her mentor and guide give her advice, rejects both of them because she can't pull them off, and then her stylist Cinna tells her to just act natural and let her anger show if she has any. Then she goes to look at Cinna when he's in the audience to give her courage and acts natural but doesn't say anything bad about the Capitol. The details in the book seem amazing to me, but maybe I just haven't read anything else lately and they're mediocre compared to other things.

All in all, I don't think the characters are one-dimensional. There's too much information about each of them, enough that you feel like you really know them. Katniss doesn't just think killing is wrong and decide not to kill. She knows that in a situation of life and death she will kill. And she does kill. And she even pulls an arrow on Peeta when he's trying to suicide for her, and again on finnick when he's giving Peeta CPR and she doesn't realize it. Shallow would mean you would guess she'd have done that. The characters are not shallow.

Also, they added a love triangle... i fucking hate when production companies do this to bring in more people.

I guess I'm too old for these kinda stories. I had Battle Royale in the back of my mind pretty much the whole time, and unfortunately I don't think The Hunger Games lives up to the hype. It failed to draw me in, basically telling a story that has been told a thousand times over. The movie also suffered greatly by having a low budget compared to it's peers. There are a few big scenes with lotsa costumes and CGI, but most of the time, it looks like something shot in your backyard / local forest. The cinematography is not the greatest I've seen, compared to say Harry Potter, which strictly technically speaking, is a joy to watch.
I haven't read THG books, but I feel the moral of the story comes out pretty weird. It basically says: "Sometimes you have to fake it to make it". This I don't like - A nice moral to a story like this, would be to follow Peeta's life goal: "They can't change me no matter how hard they try". I minor thing, but I just don't like how it comes across.
Anyway enjoy the movie. I'm sure it will be a decent hit with the younger crowd with less reference points, making this story new and fresh to them. I'm sure it will land around a 4/6 rating in the reviews. Have fun.

There was always a love triangle, I found myself liking Gale a lot more than Peeta, so I kept hoping till the end that he would come out on top.

Ok so the guy who is meant to be in love with her tries to get her killed at the beginning of the games for no reason and then he tells her to run away and it's never brought up again. Was it his plan to chase her up the tree and hope she didn't get shot by an arrow, then help her escape later? Why the fuck does she trust this guy later? What the hell, he tried to kill you, you're not going to even ask why? Even if he had some stupid plan in mind you were THIS CLOSE to being shot by an arrow, TWICE.
And then when she's up the tree, the kids miss with the bow twice and then just give up. What. Instead of, I don't know, trying again (they have plenty of time to get in a good position and really take their time with the shot, she ain't going nowhere) or getting that girl who is really really good at throwing knives to, ya know, throw a knife at her, they decide that the best course of action is to simply sit and wait for her to get hungry. If that wasn't stupid enough they then all go to sleep at the SAME TIME. Sleep in shifts, god damn. Throw rocks at the girl. Try climbing the tree again, just because you fell the first time. This bit is so stupid that I spent the rest of the film thinking about it.

I was thinking about halfway through 'dis bitch should try harrassing their mineral lines', then she blew up the food supply and I was like 'atta girl'

1st, making the movie a 12A n the UK was a fucking terrible idea. Its supposed to be a little bit on the violent side, and because of this they fucked around with the audio and visuals (no real blood) and urgh, if it was a 15 or something it would have been a much better story

2nd, I never read the books, so a little more about the games would have been REAL nice.

3rd, In most respects, it reminds me way too much of Battle Royale, which is a much better film. However, Hunger Games reminded me alot of the parts of the battle royale book they skipped out of in the movie..so more would be awesome

4th, The arena thing, and the VR dogs...can someone please PM me as to how those computer things came alive? And also what was the point at blasting fucking fire balls at the poor lass?

5th. the last one is the whole sponsorship thing. They seemed to make it into this huge fucking deal, that it would somehow allow you to be a fucking bad ass in the games, turned out to be 2 fucking parcels. If your only going to put it in twice...please don't make it into such a big fucking deal. I'd rather they'd of left that whole thing out and focussed more on a story.

why did the guy in charge have to kill himself with the berries? did that happen in the book?

In the second book, you find out that guy is executed (Snow tells Katness this). It doesn't say specifically how, but it might as well have been berries. And he had to do it/was murdered because he screwed up and let two people live in the games (which in effect "showed up" the Capitol).

13 districts
one central govt.

govt known to be corrupted and controlling. Districts try to rebel. They fail and the government "enforces" the hunger game trial to remind them not to rebel and as a punishment watch, potentially, your child die.

Of course the govt does a giant propaganda trying to brainwash them thinking they are being take care of

Ill try to make this quick/accurate.

Basically this is a world where there was a major disaster. Mass chaos/ loss of governments/diminishing population...blahblah blah.

Now A new government has taken over. "The Capitol" Run by a dictator who calls himself President Snow.

Their is The Capitol, which is essientially the bourgeois class
Seperate from the Capitol there are 13 "Districts" or colonies.

The colonies function solely to provide The Capitol with its necessary supplies.

Each Colony has a resource/commodity that their sole purpose is to provide to the Capitol.

For instance Some of the Districts are:
Coal Mining
Precious Metals
Jewel Mining
Electric Devices
Lumber
Textile
Food

The cheaper the commodity or good... the pooror the district is.
The outer-lying districts are the poorest, where people barely scrape by enough to survive. Living in poverty etc. (like no electricity/water/food)


80 (ish) Years ago, District 13 Rallied all of the districts to start a revolution against the governement of the Capitol.

After years of war, they were defeated.

Now every year the Capitol holds "The Hunger Games" as a part of their treaty with the districts, basically saying, Every year every district will sacrifice two children to show that the Revolution was wrong. But they allow a Lone survivor to be declared Victor. And the Victor becomes wealthy.

Basically the games are the Districts acknowledgements that the Capitol is in control.

Every year 24 Contestants are selected. Two from every district, one male and one female. Every male/female has their name entered into the bowl, once ever year from the ages of 12-18 and the entries carry over until you are 19. (so a 12 yr old has 1 piece of paper in the bowl, someone who is 18 has 8) And Also, they allow poor people, to put their name in the bowl multiple times for things like more food rations. (One example is the main characters friend Gale. He has 3 siblings, and no father. He has his name in the bowl 42 times, when he is 18. 7, because one for each year he is elligible. And the rest because he needed food for his family to survive. (these also carry over = if u got extra rations and entered ur name in the bowl, it gets added every year)

There are only 12 districts, because District 13 was destroyed as a show of power from the Capitol.


Basically the games= u sacrifice ur children because you tried to revolt. But we let one of them live, so as to give the competitors and the districts some very miniscule amount of hope.
Because if there was no hope of surviving...why would they be interested in killing eachother... And The Capitol doesnt just execute 24 kids a year because they do not want a revolt.

I think I just went into the movie with different expectations, but there were soo many flaws with it. I have no idea how the book was intended to be perceived, but the whole hunger games scenario is a perfect situation for character development. I was expecting the characters to change and encounter their dark side and face it NONE OF WHICH HAPPENED to ANY of the main characters. Literally the characters went through the entire hunger games ( the main characters) unchanged and the only thing that developed was their romance. Ignoring all of the plot holes in the movie like Why they grouped up knowing they would kill each other (they actually slept near each other wtf?). Also the death of that little black girl was simply plot device used to get little girls teary eyed, but thats about it. Everytime i expected the main characters to turn on each other some random plot device would be used to excuse them from it, which ruined the whole point of the games to begin with. I really thought the build up to the games was ok, and then the moment I knew the audience it was catering to I pretty much knew exactly how it was going to end.

Read the books. It goes into their psychology a LOT more. The conflictions of teaming up and so forth. I dont agree with most of ur post, but all I can really suggest is read the book? Lol idk I think you misunderstood/inerpreted everything more shallow than it can be, simply because you expected it to be.

I dont know how you wouldnt understanding people making alliances and such...
Ur chances of 1v23 are really low.
4v19 is a LOT better.
And so on... they understand that they are going to kill eachother... but who cares if they dont make it past the "round of 24" so to say...
The book touches on this part of the game a LOT more intensely and just flat out better
Chances of winning 6v 18 completely lone non-teamed up people is a LOT better than winning a 24 man free for all

To answer the simpler question first, the pack of tributes go together because that is the way that those districts do it. I don't want to spoil much but + Show Spoiler + Also consider the fact that your odds of survival increase with more of you, and if you're picking people you're going to have to work with, why would you not pick the strongest, fastest, ect. After all they might just have an unfortunate accident while you're out finishing the rest of the people off.

For the next easiest question, Rue dying was big, especially for the main character. I haven't seen how they do it in the movie, but repeatedly during the games Katniss accidentally refers to Rue as Prim (her sister). It also is the point at which she understands what Petre was talking about when they were on the roof together, and where she decides to play the rest of the games according to her rules (not the dark side that you're desperately looking for).

And finally to answer why she and Petre never encountered their dark side is because neither one ever got wrapped up in the games. Petre went there to die for Katniss and Katniss worked so hard to keep him alive that there was no way she was going to kill him in the end. They went against the grain and instead of getting darker, the book reverses this process and takes Kat from the unfeeling emotionless girl that goes into the games to a girl trying to protect her soul from being lost to the games.

the thing with kato(?) was so dumb to lol "ill do this to get more honor for my district, that's all i know" then dies. i was like "ok...that was really out of nowhere/unexpected all of a sudden". i thought that was AWFUL.

the ending with the guy being poisoned and then it all going back to "nothing has changed" both feels genius and like it was a huge cop-out. on one hand it feels like "none of that mattered at all" which is great cause it feels like they planned to have control the whole time. on the other hand it feels like you just wasted the whole time watching this movie.

U realize the "romance" was simply a marketing tool that the contestants were using to make themselves more likable and sympathetic as to draw more support from sponsors? And to get people cheering for them so the gamemasters wouldnt kill them off? They were making themselves more appealing and relatable to the people/sponsors watching. Protip: it was awkward because the girl had 0 romantic feelings for the boy.. she was simply showing that she had them just to try to help survive... The characters did change also... Katniss goes into the game with the "lonewolf" strategy. Get home at all costs. When she does the whole shpeal regarding Rue, who she sees as a reminder of her sister Prim.. we see her shift from getting home at all costs and hating all of her competitors to a "this is a 12 yr old girl... not an enemy i should kill/abandon"

Well when the boy says it and walks offstage and the girl is choking him out... their mentor clearly says "Hey he is making u both more marketable. You need sponsors to survive."
And then at the end "You need to convince them you are in love, and that ur attempting to commit suicide was an act of love for Peeta and not an act of defiance against the game and the capitols control "

For example, when Peeta is on the cornicopia at the end of the movie his calf isn't ripped off and he's not near death at all like he is in the book. Cato also fought off the mutts for an hour in the cornicopia, he didn't just fall off and die.

the black girl just reminded her about her sister back home, so seeing her dead was like a shock, like "oh my God, I now have firsthand experience of how these games pit against two random people to kill each other when we could have been friends; this is evil." I was fine with that.

It seemed so much like it was actual love instead of faking it, which would have been much more like katniss, I think. Getting sponsors helped them a lot (Don't deny it, practically giving them the ability to walk and run is immensely useful.), so clearly Katniss would be willing to fake up some BS love for Peeta to win easily. However, the film made it seem so real, and that really does warrant a kind of comparison to Twilight.

granted it did seem to fit well in the opening fight scene at the big horn at the very start. But the final fight with the dogs, I would of loved some actually choreography instead of the 4 minutes of blurry camera motions.
The pacing of the movie was probably what I disliked the most, it seemed like the scenes were moving by to fast and that they were trying to fit in as much as possible. The best example would have been the cave scene. I the book they spend nearly a quarter of the book inside of that cave but they just seemed to skim right over it.