On June 18 2012 05:48 Courthead wrote: Great visual experience. I remember a time when you could kind of tell that things were fake. That time has passed. The technology here was avatar-esque, and the aliens looked really cool, too. Don't see it in 3D though, it's a scam -- all the 3D is in the first 20 minutes of the film. After that you can literally take off your 3D glasses because you won't be missing anything.
The plot was BLEH. It could have been good. It had so much potential. But the writers totally fucked it up by creating characters who made no sense whatsoever. Take every dumb character from every bad horror movie and slice their IQs in half, and you'll get an idea of what we're playing with here. These are characters just begging for death:
The "scientists" took a dump on the scientific method every chance they got. "How do you know this is a map?" "I have faith!"
The "scientists" were also the first people to take off their helmets just because the air was breathable. Nevermind that they're on an alien planet in an alien cave with something living in it that managed to kill all the previous aliens.
The guy whose mapped out the cave got lost. Nobody else seemed to know or care for hours, even though they had a hologram showing exactly where the lost people were, and even though they could all radio each other whenever. "Oh shit, they're leaving without us! We better just sit here and not say anything!"
The biologist has, apparently, never seen a snake before, and had no sense of self-preservation. The goddamn alien did everything it could to show that it was hostile, and he decided to PET it?!
David consistently touches everything, fucks shit up, brings foreign substances onto the ship, and tries to kill crew members. He even gives not-so-subtle hints that he wants his master dead. Nobody cares.
The robot David poisoned one of the crew for absolutely no reason, and then completely forgot about it. He had no idea what the effect would be, and he could have easily destroyed the entire ship.
The robot David tried to prevent Shaw from aborting the alien insider her, but then inexplicably loses interest and decides to leave her alone. He had no idea what the effect would be, and he could have easily destroyed the entire ship.
Shaw knocks two astronauts unconscious and runs away screaming. Nobody gives a fuck later on. FAIL.
Shaw saves herself from the alien in a scene that involves running around the entire ship naked, bloody, and screaming. Nobody notices. Nobody cares. She doesn't even care. She doesn't tell anyone there's an alien on the ship. And she doesn't tell anyone that David tried to kill her. FAIL.
Vases were oozing sketchy organic liquid. Nobody took a sample. Nobody tested it. But everyone touched it, because fuck it. Fuck science. Fuck caution. Fuck common sense.
Nobody gave a fuck that there were signs of life in the cave. "Oh there's a blip showing life? Good luck guys! Instead of telling people or monitoring for your safety, I'm gonna go fuck this chick."
They're on a trillion dollar ship, and nobody is in charge. Actually, the old guys is in charge. But now that I think about it, he put the scientists in charge. Wait, no, Charlize Theron is in charge. But wait a second, the captain is in charge. Actually, fuck it. Everyone just does whatever they fucking want.
They're on a trillion dollar ship, but nobody has any training whatsoever.
They're on a trillion dollar ship, but somehow one of the astronauts managed to sneak weed into his space suit.
Old guy pretends to be dead FOR NO REASON.
Charlize Theron is old guy's daughter FOR NO REASON.
Giant line-shaped spaceship is rolling at you -- what do you do? <fail> Run in a straight line! </fail>
This is the kind of shit you see when you have bad writers. Writers who don't know how create tense and interesting conflict unless they manipulate the characters into doing things they would never do.
For the life of me, I don't know how people let this shit get by. The script should have been burned and rewritten from scratch.
I agree with some of the stuff you said, but most of it is nitpicking.
Then the only thing you need to know is that:
1. Every scientist on the ship has a brain of a 5 year old. 2. The guy who has the map on his wristband gets lost in the building. 3. The biologist's reaction to the alien snake is just about the dumbest thing you could ever do. 4. Taking your helmets off in an alien atmosphere in an alien building is also just about the dumbest thing to do.
Bending the laws of physics or including certain character flaws/decisions in order to help the movie go along is fine. But taking your helmet off inside a creepy alien building with dead bodies all over the place? Or touching an alien snake thats hissing at you? Yeah real smart. How on earth can you justify that kind of logic?
Also, the first action scene where the biologist comes back to the ship as an infected dude and goes apeshit and kills like 5 crew members? Theres no follow up. They don't clean up the mess, nothing happens, and its like nobody even cares that one of their scientists became infected and killed several of the men. This scene was the moment when the whole movie fell apart.
1. Says you. I don't agree. 2. That is one of the weirder scenes. Depending on what we get in Director's Cut might be a plothole, but not enough to make the movie bad. 3. Yea, he is as dumb as the guy in Alien that got real close to a facehugger egg while it was opening LOL. So I guess Alien is also a stupid movie to you? 4. This can be explained by their advanced technology. They did look at their instruments first and those said it is OK. BTW, you must have most SF movies as like 5% of them care about stuff like alien bacteria and viruses.
As for people not reacting to one of them killing a few of them, that is not bad, what is bad nobody caring Shaw just kicked their asses and did self surgery and then walking around bleeding and half naked.
1. [see 4] 2. I agree. 3.
Typically creatures aren't aggressive or dangerous when they leave an egg, and that guy was an ordinary joe. Honest mistake.
Alien Snake viper in black oil displaying fucking obvious signs of aggression? He's a biologist, and yet he can't recognize basic animal instincts.
He was basically saying "HERE KITTY KITTY" while the thing was baring its fucking teeth like a cobra. I get that he was entranced by it but a 3 year old would have the better sense to run.
4. Even if you discount the fact that there may be any number of creepy crawlies in the air just waiting to make them sick, you're forgetting that by breathing in the air, they are getting their own contaminants and viruses and what the hell not in the air and contaminating it
They're also pretty fucking stupid for being so careless with the place. If they had any respect for scientific investigation they would have called a team of archaeologists STAT and had them pick the place a part for decades before fucking around with taking off their helmets and screwing with black oil and jars and picking up heads without documentation.
BTW, you must have most SF movies as like 5% of them care about stuff like alien bacteria and viruses.
On June 20 2012 13:18 Lebesgue wrote: And before you call me retarded, or too stupid for the movie, know that I'm about to earn a PhD so I don't think I'm too dense for a movie.
Oh come on, listen to yourself.
Not that I disagree with your opinion on the movie.
Don't forget that the biologist has a spacesuit. He can't know that the "snake" has this unreal strenght and corrosive venom. I'm playing devil's advocate but this is definitly not the worst part of the movie imo. I find it way more annoying when the junkie geo has his weird mood swings and is hella scared in one scene and then fine a couple of minutes later (And who the fuck would hire a guy like that lol).
On June 18 2012 05:48 Courthead wrote: Great visual experience. I remember a time when you could kind of tell that things were fake. That time has passed. The technology here was avatar-esque, and the aliens looked really cool, too. Don't see it in 3D though, it's a scam -- all the 3D is in the first 20 minutes of the film. After that you can literally take off your 3D glasses because you won't be missing anything.
The plot was BLEH. It could have been good. It had so much potential. But the writers totally fucked it up by creating characters who made no sense whatsoever. Take every dumb character from every bad horror movie and slice their IQs in half, and you'll get an idea of what we're playing with here. These are characters just begging for death:
The "scientists" took a dump on the scientific method every chance they got. "How do you know this is a map?" "I have faith!"
The "scientists" were also the first people to take off their helmets just because the air was breathable. Nevermind that they're on an alien planet in an alien cave with something living in it that managed to kill all the previous aliens.
The guy whose mapped out the cave got lost. Nobody else seemed to know or care for hours, even though they had a hologram showing exactly where the lost people were, and even though they could all radio each other whenever. "Oh shit, they're leaving without us! We better just sit here and not say anything!"
The biologist has, apparently, never seen a snake before, and had no sense of self-preservation. The goddamn alien did everything it could to show that it was hostile, and he decided to PET it?!
David consistently touches everything, fucks shit up, brings foreign substances onto the ship, and tries to kill crew members. He even gives not-so-subtle hints that he wants his master dead. Nobody cares.
The robot David poisoned one of the crew for absolutely no reason, and then completely forgot about it. He had no idea what the effect would be, and he could have easily destroyed the entire ship.
The robot David tried to prevent Shaw from aborting the alien insider her, but then inexplicably loses interest and decides to leave her alone. He had no idea what the effect would be, and he could have easily destroyed the entire ship.
Shaw knocks two astronauts unconscious and runs away screaming. Nobody gives a fuck later on. FAIL.
Shaw saves herself from the alien in a scene that involves running around the entire ship naked, bloody, and screaming. Nobody notices. Nobody cares. She doesn't even care. She doesn't tell anyone there's an alien on the ship. And she doesn't tell anyone that David tried to kill her. FAIL.
Vases were oozing sketchy organic liquid. Nobody took a sample. Nobody tested it. But everyone touched it, because fuck it. Fuck science. Fuck caution. Fuck common sense.
Nobody gave a fuck that there were signs of life in the cave. "Oh there's a blip showing life? Good luck guys! Instead of telling people or monitoring for your safety, I'm gonna go fuck this chick."
They're on a trillion dollar ship, and nobody is in charge. Actually, the old guys is in charge. But now that I think about it, he put the scientists in charge. Wait, no, Charlize Theron is in charge. But wait a second, the captain is in charge. Actually, fuck it. Everyone just does whatever they fucking want.
They're on a trillion dollar ship, but nobody has any training whatsoever.
They're on a trillion dollar ship, but somehow one of the astronauts managed to sneak weed into his space suit.
Old guy pretends to be dead FOR NO REASON.
Charlize Theron is old guy's daughter FOR NO REASON.
Giant line-shaped spaceship is rolling at you -- what do you do? <fail> Run in a straight line! </fail>
This is the kind of shit you see when you have bad writers. Writers who don't know how create tense and interesting conflict unless they manipulate the characters into doing things they would never do.
For the life of me, I don't know how people let this shit get by. The script should have been burned and rewritten from scratch.
I agree with some of the stuff you said, but most of it is nitpicking.
Then the only thing you need to know is that:
1. Every scientist on the ship has a brain of a 5 year old. 2. The guy who has the map on his wristband gets lost in the building. 3. The biologist's reaction to the alien snake is just about the dumbest thing you could ever do. 4. Taking your helmets off in an alien atmosphere in an alien building is also just about the dumbest thing to do.
Bending the laws of physics or including certain character flaws/decisions in order to help the movie go along is fine. But taking your helmet off inside a creepy alien building with dead bodies all over the place? Or touching an alien snake thats hissing at you? Yeah real smart. How on earth can you justify that kind of logic?
Also, the first action scene where the biologist comes back to the ship as an infected dude and goes apeshit and kills like 5 crew members? Theres no follow up. They don't clean up the mess, nothing happens, and its like nobody even cares that one of their scientists became infected and killed several of the men. This scene was the moment when the whole movie fell apart.
1. Says you. I don't agree. 2. That is one of the weirder scenes. Depending on what we get in Director's Cut might be a plothole, but not enough to make the movie bad. 3. Yea, he is as dumb as the guy in Alien that got real close to a facehugger egg while it was opening LOL. So I guess Alien is also a stupid movie to you? 4. This can be explained by their advanced technology. They did look at their instruments first and those said it is OK. BTW, you must have most SF movies as like 5% of them care about stuff like alien bacteria and viruses.
As for people not reacting to one of them killing a few of them, that is not bad, what is bad nobody caring Shaw just kicked their asses and did self surgery and then walking around bleeding and half naked.
1. [see 4] 2. I agree. 3.
Typically creatures aren't aggressive or dangerous when they leave an egg, and that guy was an ordinary joe. Honest mistake.
Alien Snake viper in black oil displaying fucking obvious signs of aggression? He's a biologist, and yet he can't recognize basic animal instincts.
He was basically saying "HERE KITTY KITTY" while the thing was baring its fucking teeth like a cobra. I get that he was entranced by it but a 3 year old would have the better sense to run.
4. Even if you discount the fact that there may be any number of creepy crawlies in the air just waiting to make them sick, you're forgetting that by breathing in the air, they are getting their own contaminants and viruses and what the hell not in the air and contaminating it
They're also pretty fucking stupid for being so careless with the place. If they had any respect for scientific investigation they would have called a team of archaeologists STAT and had them pick the place a part for decades before fucking around with taking off their helmets and screwing with black oil and jars and picking up heads without documentation.
BTW, you must have most SF movies as like 5% of them care about stuff like alien bacteria and viruses.
SF movies?
3. Strange Eggs in an alien ship just happen to start opening as you enter the room? That is not weird or dangerous? Really? LOL. You people will say anything to make you case no matter how stupid. 4. As I said, 95% of SF (Science Fiction) movies don't care about stuff like this. I don't really see it as a problem.
Yes, they are careless but maybe that is why they are there. Not to mention the people that follow scientific method usually don't go around looking for Aliens that made humans. Not everyone is the same of behaves the same. Also, see 4.
On June 20 2012 15:44 Boblion wrote: Don't forget that the biologist has a spacesuit. He can't know that the "snake" has this unreal strenght and corrosive venom.
The funniest thing really is when Shaw and Vickers try to run out of the way of the engineers' space ship rolling behind them. Shaw falls and ROLLS sideways on the ground to safety. If she can roll and escape, can they really not take one step to either side and avoid being crushed?
You are nitpicking here. When all your crew just got killed and a huge alien spaceship is crashing on you i'm not sure that you would be able to react rationally. Nah i guess you would be just shitting your pants. The girl is panicking lol.
God this movie was so bad... I'll give it credit in the special effects category because I was definitely grossed out to an eerily real point, like watching jackass except with advanced humans and crazy lab aliens and self-done abortions gone wrong.
However, I have always been a firm believer in special effects taking a backseat to everything else. Things that make the movie ACTUALLY good like actors, plot, directing, etc. Special effects are like make-up. They can make a hot chick even hotter, but cannot make up (no pun intended) for what an ugly chick is lacking. This movie was definitely ugly.
I'm sure most of everything I dislike about this movie was shared in the previous 48 other pages.
One thing that did not make any sense to me is why David went and spiked the scientist's drink with the evil alien black sludge stuff. The way it came through in the movie is that he did it simply out of curiosity and interest, but David is a robot, and (supposedly) cannot feel emotions. How can a robot have interests and curiosity if they cannot have an emotional connection to things in the first place? Basically what I'm getting at is how can a robot with no emotions understand the concept of "liking" someone or something. I apologize if this is in a previous page.
Also, the chick scientist gives herself a fucking abortion, injects enough drugs into her to bring down a baby elephant, and can still somehow perfectly function and end up sprinting across a mysterious planet... only to jump while the ground is ripping apart and slam her newly stapled together stomach onto some hard metal while hanging in mid air...
I have a plethora of things that I found wrong with this movie, but those were two main points that stuck out in my mind right now.
Also, did anyone laugh their ass off as the girl scientist puts David's head in the bag while he's talking? Oh my god at that point the movie was so bad I didn't think it could get any worse.
Another thing I noticed in this thread is everyone arguing about the dumbass guy who thought it was fun to play with the water snake thing that broke his arm and fucked him up. I don't have as much of a problem with that because those guys are in every single movie and I've learned to deal with them, but I still agree that it's fucking retarded what he did.
god you guys suck. this movie kicks ass, im going to watch it again. wahhhh its unrealistic. well guess what its fucking science-FICTION. you name any movie and its full of things that happen for NO REASON. seriously name any movie and ill give you shit tons of things that wouldnt happen in real life, or shouldnt. you guys are like the people that blame films that dramatize real-life situations like "the social network" or "money ball" and say "Hey! the fuck, this isnt EXACTLY what happened IT WAS BORING IN REAL LIFE! So it must suck!." and im like dude if you want to know what really happened then fucking watch a documentary or better yet a full 6 hour lawyer cam of zuckerburg and his prosecutors. movies are supposed to be entertaining. if you want to be all hip and cool and say "nah im too cool for this movie." then fine but im going to watch some oscar worthy acting and visuals and enjoy my 2 hours.
One more thing I found quite curious is in the very end when Shaw gets David's head from the engineer spaceship: did anyone else notice how her hair is blowing inside the helmet? As if there was wind inside her suit.
On June 20 2012 16:43 WniO wrote: god you guys suck. this movie kicks ass, im going to watch it again. wahhhh its unrealistic. well guess what its fucking science-FICTION. you name any movie and its full of things that happen for NO REASON. seriously name any movie and ill give you shit tons of things that wouldnt happen in real life, or shouldnt. you guys are like the people that blame films that dramatize real-life situations like "the social network" or "money ball" and say "Hey! the fuck, this isnt EXACTLY what happened IT WAS BORING IN REAL LIFE! So it must suck!." and im like dude if you want to know what really happened then fucking watch a documentary or better yet a full 6 hour lawyer cam of zuckerburg and his prosecutors. movies are supposed to be entertaining. if you want to be all hip and cool and say "nah im too cool for this movie." then fine but im going to watch some oscar worthy acting and visuals and enjoy my 2 hours.
"I thought it kicked ass, so you guys are stupid and wrong".
I enjoyed the movie, it was truly beautiful to look at, and you can tell that it fulfilled a vision for a director who made movies in the area before you could just create a landscape digitally. That being said it was the least scary of all the Alien movies and it did have quite a few glaring plotholes. That didn't keep me from enjoying it though, in fact it just made it more fun since it allowed me to yell at the screen almost the entire film. Sometimes I think that directors that take into account when they make films and so that's why they have some characters do the stupidest things. Just so you can sit there and marvel at how utterly normal and human they are!
On June 20 2012 16:43 WniO wrote: god you guys suck. this movie kicks ass, im going to watch it again. wahhhh its unrealistic. well guess what its fucking science-FICTION. you name any movie and its full of things that happen for NO REASON. seriously name any movie and ill give you shit tons of things that wouldnt happen in real life, or shouldnt. you guys are like the people that blame films that dramatize real-life situations like "the social network" or "money ball" and say "Hey! the fuck, this isnt EXACTLY what happened IT WAS BORING IN REAL LIFE! So it must suck!." and im like dude if you want to know what really happened then fucking watch a documentary or better yet a full 6 hour lawyer cam of zuckerburg and his prosecutors. movies are supposed to be entertaining. if you want to be all hip and cool and say "nah im too cool for this movie." then fine but im going to watch some oscar worthy acting and visuals and enjoy my 2 hours.
There is a term, verisimilitude, for what people feel is missing. Its all well and good to create fantasy worlds and characters but when you completely separate your story from reality then the audience will not become invested. There has to be at least one anchor to the real world.
I think the big folly of the movie, character wise, is that all of they were all either horror movie archetypes or Ripley. And while I understand the desire to bring back the blue collar Ripley style attitude, our familiarity with the demands of the type of expedition they were on should exclude the possibility. Ripley was a woman in a futuristic world where driving a space ship is like driving a 16 wheeler. The scientists in this movie were trillion dollar investments on a Star Trek style expedition.
The world was visually stunning and the dilemmas they faced were compelling, Its just impossible to integrate the character's decisions into believable thought processes.
On June 20 2012 16:43 WniO wrote: god you guys suck. this movie kicks ass, im going to watch it again. wahhhh its unrealistic. well guess what its fucking science-FICTION. you name any movie and its full of things that happen for NO REASON. seriously name any movie and ill give you shit tons of things that wouldnt happen in real life, or shouldnt. you guys are like the people that blame films that dramatize real-life situations like "the social network" or "money ball" and say "Hey! the fuck, this isnt EXACTLY what happened IT WAS BORING IN REAL LIFE! So it must suck!." and im like dude if you want to know what really happened then fucking watch a documentary or better yet a full 6 hour lawyer cam of zuckerburg and his prosecutors. movies are supposed to be entertaining. if you want to be all hip and cool and say "nah im too cool for this movie." then fine but im going to watch some oscar worthy acting and visuals and enjoy my 2 hours.
"I thought it kicked ass, so you guys are stupid and wrong".
Well I'm certainly convinced!
why should he try to convince you? he enjoyed the movie and you didnt, his good and your bad
On June 20 2012 16:43 WniO wrote: god you guys suck. this movie kicks ass, im going to watch it again. wahhhh its unrealistic. well guess what its fucking science-FICTION. you name any movie and its full of things that happen for NO REASON. seriously name any movie and ill give you shit tons of things that wouldnt happen in real life, or shouldnt. you guys are like the people that blame films that dramatize real-life situations like "the social network" or "money ball" and say "Hey! the fuck, this isnt EXACTLY what happened IT WAS BORING IN REAL LIFE! So it must suck!." and im like dude if you want to know what really happened then fucking watch a documentary or better yet a full 6 hour lawyer cam of zuckerburg and his prosecutors. movies are supposed to be entertaining. if you want to be all hip and cool and say "nah im too cool for this movie." then fine but im going to watch some oscar worthy acting and visuals and enjoy my 2 hours.
There is a term, verisimilitude, for what people feel is missing. Its all well and good to create fantasy worlds and characters but when you completely separate your story from reality then the audience will not become invested. There has to be at least one anchor to the real world.
I think the big folly of the movie, character wise, is that all of they were all either horror movie archetypes or Ripley. And while I understand the desire to bring back the blue collar Ripley style attitude, our familiarity with the demands of the type of expedition they were on should exclude the possibility. Ripley was a woman in a futuristic world where driving a space ship is like driving a 16 wheeler. The scientists in this movie were trillion dollar investments on a Star Trek style expedition.
The world was visually stunning and the dilemmas they faced were compelling, Its just impossible to integrate the character's decisions into believable thought processes.
Except the same people that Hollywood is spoon feeding every little detail so they don't have to think for themselves are complaining about this movie.
What we know from the movie: 1. Owner has a lot of money. 2. Except for few key members of the crew nobody knew where they were going or what their mission was.
- So when you try to use your spoonfed brains for once that leads to: 3. They didn't get best of the best. Best of the best have a good enough jobs/positions/family so they WILL NOT leave all that behind for YEARS to come on a space expedition that nobody told them what is about. What they got is this bunch of people, those crazy or desperate enough to risk it for money or fame or whatever.
For all those pointing out unrealism out there, you're watching a movie! Try for a moment to suspend disbelief and immerse yourself. All movies are better that way. There is valid points of criticism when the movie actively undermines this phenomenon like breaking the fourth wall, huge gapping non-sequtirs, or some other techniques that reminds the viewer of that it is a movie experience rather than a voyeur experience.
There's a saying. Those playing are insane for pretending. Those watching are fools for believing. That's the nature of entertainment.
On June 20 2012 16:43 WniO wrote: god you guys suck. this movie kicks ass, im going to watch it again. wahhhh its unrealistic. well guess what its fucking science-FICTION. you name any movie and its full of things that happen for NO REASON. seriously name any movie and ill give you shit tons of things that wouldnt happen in real life, or shouldnt. you guys are like the people that blame films that dramatize real-life situations like "the social network" or "money ball" and say "Hey! the fuck, this isnt EXACTLY what happened IT WAS BORING IN REAL LIFE! So it must suck!." and im like dude if you want to know what really happened then fucking watch a documentary or better yet a full 6 hour lawyer cam of zuckerburg and his prosecutors. movies are supposed to be entertaining. if you want to be all hip and cool and say "nah im too cool for this movie." then fine but im going to watch some oscar worthy acting and visuals and enjoy my 2 hours.
There is a term, verisimilitude, for what people feel is missing. Its all well and good to create fantasy worlds and characters but when you completely separate your story from reality then the audience will not become invested. There has to be at least one anchor to the real world.
I think the big folly of the movie, character wise, is that all of they were all either horror movie archetypes or Ripley. And while I understand the desire to bring back the blue collar Ripley style attitude, our familiarity with the demands of the type of expedition they were on should exclude the possibility. Ripley was a woman in a futuristic world where driving a space ship is like driving a 16 wheeler. The scientists in this movie were trillion dollar investments on a Star Trek style expedition.
The world was visually stunning and the dilemmas they faced were compelling, Its just impossible to integrate the character's decisions into believable thought processes.
Except the same people that Hollywood is spoon feeding every little detail so they don't have to think for themselves are complaining about this movie.
What we know from the movie: 1. Owner has a lot of money. 2. Except for few key members of the crew nobody knew where they were going or what their mission was.
- So when you try to use your spoonfed brains for once that leads to: 3. They didn't get best of the best. Best of the best have a good enough jobs/positions/family so they WILL NOT leave all that behind for YEARS to come on a space expedition that nobody told them what is about. What they got is this bunch of people, those crazy or desperate enough to risk it for money or fame or whatever.
This is a silly rationalization. Put yourself in the shoes of the old man desperate for immortality. You find two established scientists who show you evidence so compelling that you are willing to not only invest the remainder of your life but also put your financial legacy on the line. So you create a once in a lifetime expedition opportunity and offer unlimited resources for second rate "scientists" to brave the unknown? Even if it was a wild goose chase, give me a trillion dollars and the technical capacity for this kind of mission and I will put together a team of EXTREMELY high end, competent and focused people in any field desired.
This is exactly the problem. You are in fact the one who is accepting the spoon fed answers. It is only when you ask "why" that the movie has problems.
Details about the sequel have been leaked! It seems they are going to combine universes with another franchise. I'll spoiler the rest just in case people don't want to know about it yet. Safe to say some people will be shocked to see who/what the engineers really are!
On June 20 2012 18:53 icyF wrote: One more thing I found quite curious is in the very end when Shaw gets David's head from the engineer spaceship: did anyone else notice how her hair is blowing inside the helmet? As if there was wind inside her suit.
Another thing that was weird is that she didn't have her gloves on when she was outside of the room.
For those wondering what David said to the Engineer
On June 20 2012 21:56 TanGeng wrote: For all those pointing out unrealism out there, you're watching a movie! Try for a moment to suspend disbelief and immerse yourself. All movies are better that way. There is valid points of criticism when the movie actively undermines this phenomenon like breaking the fourth wall, huge gapping non-sequtirs, or some other techniques that reminds the viewer of that it is a movie experience rather than a voyeur experience.
There's a saying. Those playing are insane for pretending. Those watching are fools for believing. That's the nature of entertainment.
Yes, it's a movie but things have to be made believable. Because it is a SF movie I am ready to easily accept things that are clear fiction as well as bending some rules of physics/chemistry/biology whatever.
But the thing is that movie is simply incoherent the way it was released. The first thing I noticed was how retarded these characters are. They are on a scientific mission in a hostile and unknown environment and yet they don't act either like scientists or as if they are on an unknown planet. Contrary to that, they act as if they are immature teenagers that found a cave near their farm.
Moreover, instead of cutting the content that supposedly can explain or shed some light on things that for now look completely incoherent we have some scenes that are unnecessary. Why was there the zombie scene? Or even the snake scene to start with? Cut that zombie scene and give me more explanation so the movie has a continuous plot and deosn't feel like separate scenes put together.
I really wanted to enjoy this movie. I love SF movies. I'm ready to accept things as long as they have coherent explanation. I am also fine with unanswered questions as long as I'm sure they were intentionally left unanswered and not just because the script writer ran out of ideas and wanted to make the movie more flashy. Given the information I have, I lean towards the latter which simply makes deeply disappointed.
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