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Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
June 28 2012 07:17 GMT
#1001
I absolutely loved it and I am generally a tough critic. Don't understand the disproportionate hate it's getting at all.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
June 28 2012 07:19 GMT
#1002
On June 28 2012 16:17 Rarak wrote:
I absolutely loved it and I am generally a tough critic. Don't understand the disproportionate hate it's getting at all.


I enjoyed the movie also; nitpicking sci fi happens to be a favorite way to pass time, along with mob mentality; people read the forum before posting and then agree with the majority, in most cases. At least that's what I believe.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Hairspun
Profile Joined November 2011
2 Posts
June 28 2012 07:36 GMT
#1003
I also have another theory here:

http://thinbastard.blogspot.com/2012/06/better-theory-of-prometheus.html

Not 100% perfect but it is how I choose to see things.

TL;DR: “The Engineers wanted to evolve humans, not destroy them.” The Why: “To save them from the fate they faced against their own makers."
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
June 28 2012 15:01 GMT
#1004
On June 28 2012 16:19 Confuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 16:17 Rarak wrote:
I absolutely loved it and I am generally a tough critic. Don't understand the disproportionate hate it's getting at all.


I enjoyed the movie also; nitpicking sci fi happens to be a favorite way to pass time, along with mob mentality; people read the forum before posting and then agree with the majority, in most cases. At least that's what I believe.

Then you believe wrong.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Scurvy
Profile Joined March 2012
United States117 Posts
June 29 2012 18:46 GMT
#1005
On June 28 2012 16:02 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Saw it yesterday, was okay but holy shit characters are so fucking dumb.

"oh hey let's take no weapons whatsoever!"
"oh hey lets take off our helmets!"
"oh hey let's split into smaller groups and get lost in those fucking caves!"
"oh hey an unkown alien creature here is my hand you can have it !"

it's like thay always make the most ridiculously dumb decisions possible in any given situation :<


Although I agree, welcome to how sic-fi always seems to work. But I did feel that the characters in Prometheus were especially frustrating. Also, I am not a fan of movies that raise more questions than they answer. Anyone else feel like that was the way Prometheus worked?
With it or on it.
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
August 02 2012 16:29 GMT
#1006
So Prometheus 2 is confirmed 2013/2014 with Noomi Rapace as main character.

http://www.sydsvenskan.se/kultur-och-nojen/rapace-klar-for-ny--prometheus-

Swedish link.
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Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 22:06:36
August 11 2012 22:06 GMT
#1007
I saw it on thursday night. And i would consider myself as a person who has comparatively much knowledge about the hole alien saga.

I have enjoyed the movie until (the very end)

+ Show Spoiler +
the big xenomorph the godlike person attacked, and i saw the result. If i take everything in consideration what i know about aliens, than i have to conlclude, that the hole alien species as we know them from alien 1 - 4, is just one giant monstrosity, originated in dna pool of 2 different species?!


That realy pisses me off. That can't be the origen of aliens. That's just way to unsatisfying.
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
M4nkind
Profile Joined December 2011
Lithuania178 Posts
August 11 2012 22:49 GMT
#1008
On August 12 2012 07:06 Striker.superfreunde wrote:
I saw it on thursday night. And i would consider myself as a person who has comparatively much knowledge about the hole alien saga.

I have enjoyed the movie until (the very end)

+ Show Spoiler +
the big xenomorph the godlike person attacked, and i saw the result. If i take everything in consideration what i know about aliens, than i have to conlclude, that the hole alien species as we know them from alien 1 - 4, is just one giant monstrosity, originated in dna pool of 2 different species?!


That realy pisses me off. That can't be the origen of aliens. That's just way to unsatisfying.



I somehow think that this huge monster in the end was anomaly (since droid was doing some stupid experiments) while alien is the real thing that hatches inside human/engineer. Since if you consider that ship found in alien 1 and ship in prometheus are of the same type effects for being exposed to biological weapons on ships are the same - alien hatches inside you.
Read my epic book, people: http://www.wattpad.com/story/23976849-the-business-of-time-travel
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
August 12 2012 00:16 GMT
#1009
Ah, yes. You are right, this scientist girl flews to one of the other plants. Who knows which one is the one from alien 1. Thankfully, i forgot about that part already! Everything is fine with this movie now, for me.
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 21:33:27
August 12 2012 20:41 GMT
#1010
I love the space jesus theory lol. But if it is the most true theory then I can only conclude that the engineers were nothing more than a bunch of self-righteously bald jerks. For the uninitiated the space jesus theory goes something like: The engineers (as evident in the opening scene) worshiped the idea of self-sacrifice in order to create life. 2000 years ago more or less, they sent an emissary of theirs in the form of Jesus. Our civilization was pretty brutal back then as humans were just hungry for everything, more knowlege, more resources, more territory etc. Humans consumed life in order to serve themselves which went against the engineers' philosophy. The cherry on top was us killing space Jesus (Spear through the stomach, exploding stomachs seems to serve a motif).

This isn't part of the main theory but my own hunch is that it's not OUR intentions or whatever that transformed the black goo into a force of evil that wiped their entire race out. It was their desire to wipe US out. But anyways, those jerks obviously did not have a star trek equivalent or something. Why punish the rest of humanity for a crime a few romans committed? (Aw man, more biblical references, humanity being stained, sins blah blah). It was a violent era but not EVERYONE was a raging maniac. They understood that that was a relatively primitive time for humans no? Why didn't they wipe out homo habilis? It was even probably more of a blood bath back then. "Hey guys, I think humanity might be ready to receive us in all our alien glory. I mean sure, they have yet to master a sanitary sewage system, an efficient form of government or calculus but, heck, I'm sure it'll go well!"

It was because they were a bunch of religious fanatics. We did not end up adopting their beliefs so then they decided to wipe us out. Which is ironic because pretty much the same thing happened to space Jesus. But SERIOUSLY, star trek! The prime directive!!!! Arrrgghhh.


Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
August 12 2012 21:55 GMT
#1011
Props to Michael Fassbender, his acting was amazing.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 13 2012 01:39 GMT
#1012
On June 28 2012 16:36 Hairspun wrote:
I also have another theory here:

http://thinbastard.blogspot.com/2012/06/better-theory-of-prometheus.html

Not 100% perfect but it is how I choose to see things.

TL;DR: “The Engineers wanted to evolve humans, not destroy them.” The Why: “To save them from the fate they faced against their own makers."

3) he preaches about gaining eternal life (possibly through transformation/evolution into a more powerful form)

The imagery is like a seed that must first die before it becomes a mighty tree. source. More or less compelling than the first rationale, depending on how you look at the death part.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 15 2012 20:14 GMT
#1013
On August 03 2012 01:29 InDaHouse wrote:
So Prometheus 2 is confirmed 2013/2014 with Noomi Rapace as main character.

http://www.sydsvenskan.se/kultur-och-nojen/rapace-klar-for-ny--prometheus-

Swedish link.


Not really surprising, but good confirmation at least. I know that a lot of people praised Fassbender, and I do too, but I personally like Rapace a little more than Fassbender. Apparently, the sequel's title is rumored to be "Paradise", which was the original title for Prometheus.

In other news, here are some details regarding the blu-ray release AND Director's Cut

+ Show Spoiler +
00:02:31:16 (ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:58:05 (T’IS THE SEASON) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:42:08 (OUR FIRST ALIEN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:42:14 (SKIN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:01:22:01 (WE’RE NOT ALONE ANYMORE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:02:57:01 (STRANGE BEDFELLOWS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:01:25:04 (HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER) (DELETED SCENE)
00:00:23:12 (DAVID’S OBJECTIVE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:03:27:07 (JANEK FILLS VICKERS IN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:03:40:12 (A KING HAS HIS REIGN) (DELETED SCENE)
00:02:01:24 (FITFIELD ATTACKS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:04:06:06 (THE ENGINEER SPEAKS) (DELETED SCENE)
00:05:30:04 (FINAL BATTLE) (DELETED SCENE)
00:05:05:19 (PARADISE) (DELETED SCENE)

Prometheus is expected to be released on Blu-ray/DVD this October.



+ Show Spoiler +
- AUDIO COMMENTARY BY WRITER JON SPAIHTS AND WRITER/EXECUTIVE PRODUCER DAMON LINDELOF [118:38]

- DIRECTOR'S AUDIO COMMENTARY [118:38]

- DEMONS IN THE DARK - CREATURE DESIGN [26:57]

- FIRE FROM THE SKY - VISUAL EFFECTS [23:33]

- HAZARD PAY - STUNTS AND ACTION [23:46]

- ENHANCEMENT PODS:
* THE TITLE CONUNDRUM [2:29]
* PROMETHEUS: THE BOARD GAME [3:12]
* SEXBURSTER [1:46]
* KNICK KNACKS OF TOMORROW [4:30]
* FUN WITH MOLECULAR GASTRONOMY [5:57]
* BUILDING BETTER LOGOS [2:13]
* MAKER'S MARK [1:51]
* THE AMPULE SHOPPE [2:02]
* LANGUAGE OF THE GODS [3:45]
* FIRST EXPOSURE: ALIEN [5:31]
* BODY MECHANICS: TRILOBITE [1:04]
* XENOMORPHOLOGY: THE DEACON [1:20]
* CONSTRICTIVE CONSTRUCTION [1:55]
* CHAIR FETISH [3:53]
* ONE DAY IN AFRICA [1:47]
* LOCATION: ICELAND [3:24]
* THE ART OF TERRAFORMING [1:29]
* BATTLE OF THE PLANETS: LV-223 VS. LV-426 [3:07]
* ALL THINGS HOLOGRAPHIC [6:00]
* WEYLAND'S WET DREAM [2:31]
* THE CASE OF THE FANFIC FAKE [2:24]
* MERGING RIDLEYVERSES [0:58]
* GIGERESQUE [3:46]

- PRE-VISUALIZATIONS:
* PROLOGUE [3:57]
* DISCOVERING THE PLANET [1:03]
* MED-POD SEQUENCE: PG-13 VERSION [4:11]
* MED-POD SEQUENCE: R VERSION [4:08]
* AWAKING THE ENGINEER [6:26]
* PROMETHEUS VS. JUGGERNAUT [4:40]

- SCREEN TESTS:
* NOOMI RAPACE SCREEN TEST [9:29]
* HAIR/MAKEUP/COSTUME SCREEN TEST [10:58]
* COSTUME/MAKE-UP/HAIR TEST WITH OPTIONAL COMMENTARY BY THE CAST - 18 MARCH 2011-PINEWOOD STUDIOS [10:58]

- PROMETHEUS UNBOUND: POST-PRODUCTION AND RELEASE [29:26]

- CHARLIZE ON VICKERS [1:15]
- LOGAN ON HOLLOWAY [1:10]
- NOOMI RAPACE ON SHAW [1:31]
- SHAW [1:15]

- THE STORY:
* CREATION [3:11]
* INTERNATIONAL CREATION [3:11]

- PETER WEYLAND FILES:
* VIRAL VIDEO: QUIET EYE: ELIZABETH SHAW [2:23]
* VIRAL VIDEO: PROMETHEUS TRANSMISSION [6:44]
* VIRAL VIDEO: HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAVID [2:15]
* VIRAL VIDEO: TED CONFERENCE 2023 [6:34]

- REVERSE ENGINEERING:
*USCSS PROMETHEUS [15:36]

- UNDER THE PYRAMID - LV-223 [23:32]

- TIME-LAPSE SEQUENCE: JUGGERNAUT [1:44]
- TIME-LAPSE SEQUENCE: JUGGERNAUT WITH OPTIONAL COMMENTARY BY PRODUCTION DESIGNER ARTHUR MAX [1:44]

- TV SPOT: TRAILER ANNOUNCEMENT [0:19]

- SPACE TRAVEL [2:12]

- ITUNES "TOMORROW" [0:29]
- I TUNES "2 DAYS" [0:29]
- ITUNES "3 DAYS [0:29]

- INT'L TRAILER E CUTDOWN SOFT [0:57]

- VISION OF PROMETHEUS [2:17]

- FIRST LOOK [11:31]

- ALTERNATE AND DELETED SCENES: [34:54]
* ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINEERS [2:31]
* T'IS THE SEASON [0:58]
* OUR FIRST ALIEN [0:42]
* SKIN [0:42]
* WE'RE NOT ALONE ANYMORE [1:22]
* STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [2:57]
* HOLLOWAY HUNGOVER [1:25]
* DAVID'S OBJECTIVE [0:23]
* JANEK FILLS VICKERS IN [3:27]
* A KING HAS HIS REIGN [3:40]
* FIFIELD ATTACKS [2:01]
* THE ENGINEER SPEAKS [4:06]
* FINAL BATTLE [5:30]
* PARADISE [5:05]

- TV SPOTS:
* INT'L INVITATION [0:57]
* INT'L STORY/EVENT P/S ALT [0:29]
* STORY/YOUNG MALE/B [0:28]
* 21TRAILER CUTDOWN [0:28]
* STAR/VICKERS 15 [0:14]
* STARA/DAVID 15 [0:14]
* STAR/ACTION/COMBO 15 [0:14]
* STAR/THOUSANDS 15 [0:14]
* INT'L ARRIVED [0:28]
* INT'L EXPLAIN [0:28]
* STORY/EVENT P/S [0:28]
* INT'L AGENDA [0:28]
* INT'L STARA MAP HARD [0:28]
* INT'L FEEL [0:28]
* INT'L EXTINCTION [0:28]
* INT'L STAR MAP SOFTER RS [0:28]
* INT'L STORY CHARACTER SOFT RS [0:28]
* INT'L STAR MAP SOFT OZ [0:28]
* INT'L STORY CHARACTER OZ [0:28]
* INT'L STAR MAP SOFT [0:28]
* INT'L STORY CHARACTER S/B [0:28]
* INT'L TRAILER E CUTDOWN [0:57]
* INT'L POST TRAILER [0:19]

- A FILM THIRTY YEARS IN THE MAKING [1:33]
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 20:42:40
August 15 2012 22:59 GMT
#1014
Despite all the plotholes and inconsistencies the movie is surprisingly enjoyable. I probably couldn't enjoy it a second time though.

edit:
I am a little bit disappointed that this movie gets such a high rating on IMDB. 7.5/10, really?

Although most of the well-liked reviews there point out the glaring plotholes, the cliched characters that don't even act consistently and the straight-out absurdity of some of the things happening on screen, the silent majority seems content because of the stunning visuals and cheap mystery.
bailando
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany332 Posts
August 17 2012 13:31 GMT
#1015
can somebody hit me up with a good link/forum/whatever for a explanation of the storyline.

i understand what happened in prometheus and the alien films etc but i am somehow confused how Alien vs predator fits there and i feel like there are some logic/story mistakes

i would like a good explanation cause i am really confused >.<
maybe some of you know a good site or are big fans themselves and can recommend me where to look up?
Elsid
Profile Joined September 2010
Ireland318 Posts
August 17 2012 13:33 GMT
#1016
On August 17 2012 22:31 bailando wrote:
can somebody hit me up with a good link/forum/whatever for a explanation of the storyline.

i understand what happened in prometheus and the alien films etc but i am somehow confused how Alien vs predator fits there and i feel like there are some logic/story mistakes

i would like a good explanation cause i am really confused >.<
maybe some of you know a good site or are big fans themselves and can recommend me where to look up?


Alien vs predator isn't considered the same universe as either the alien universe or the predator universe as far as i know.
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
August 17 2012 15:31 GMT
#1017
Watched this last night and I thought it was pretty good.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 19 2012 21:16 GMT
#1018
On June 21 2012 09:14 carrion wrote:
The film made me rage and laugh at how bad it was. Get religion out of my science fiction, it's insulting.

My feelings exactly, story was outrageously bad. Acting was good, camera shots/music was all nice, but story was just horrible. Don't watch :-/
Get off my lawn, young punks
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
August 19 2012 21:23 GMT
#1019
I loved this film. Cant wait to see what happens next.
MyLastSerenade
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany710 Posts
August 19 2012 21:25 GMT
#1020
i like the movie, espeacially the ending, has potential imo!
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