[Movie] Prometheus - Page 27

1) What was the liquid goo the Engineer tried in the beginning, was he sampling it to see what it will do (testing chemical warfare because it alters DNA, was this meant for the wiping of our race, if so why does it turn the humans into zombie - ties in with number 2?)
2) Why did the geologist become a zombie and not an alien spin off...didnt get it, need someone to explain
3) I know that in the first alien movie they see the ship that got taken out at the end of prometheus when they first come to the planet, but how do all the aliens get on the planet, are the vases with the goo the start of that, because the alien that came out of the Engineer wasnt the same aliens that came out of humans, is that the start of the queen, is it a male alien...mad confused.
4) What does Charlize being the daughter of weyland have anything to do with anything, other that she was bleak that he didnt die and was alive...wanted his fortune/power...made no sense, and didnt add anything, unless its explained in the 2nd prometheus.
5) Face hugger comes out of human, becomes Engineer face hugger...no correlation to aliens...new material
6) and mother fucking WHY are the Engineers wanting to kill us, did they engineer us badly (sequel)?

Noomi is revelaed to be infirtile >blink> Noomi is pregnant >blink> Noomi has cesarean to remove a massive squid >blink> all back to normal

Weyland is still alive! >blink> Weyland is dead!

Vickers is Weyland's daughter! >blink> Vickers is dead!

The aliens are going to invade Earth! >blink> Captain spontaneously suicides the remaining crew into alien vessel.

Noomi is religious >blink> oh wait, nothing comes of this because she does not do anything remotely religious for the rest of the film.

and so on.

... which is just the Alien blueprint. LOL. Ridley Scott waited 30 years to tell an identical story, except now with more fruitcake.

People find [distress signal/cave painting] - People land on [LV426/LV233] - People find [Derelict Spaceship/Derelict Spaceship] - Crewman gets attacked by [facehugger/vagina snake] - Remaining crew get [picked off one-by-one/picked off one-by-one] - The whole expedtion is cynically revealed to be a setup by [The Company/Weyland] with the help of their android [Ash/David]. Blah blah blah. Same thing all over again, except Lindlehoff has now force-fed a bunch of half-baked ideas into it. And the crew also now have amazing hair-cuts

In Alien, the heroine, Ripley refuses to break quarantine and allow Kane back on board the ship with the alien parasite attached to his face and endangering the lives of the entire crew. = hero

In Prometheus, the ice-queen?, Vickers refuses to break quarantine and allow the overtly infected Holloway back on board the ship and endagnering the lives of the entire crew. = bitch?

Vickers is not treated as a hero at all, maybe because she actually succeded in not allowing the danger onboard that no one is aware of what the consequences would have been. Then she just gets squashed at the end, whilst selfhishly trying to escape as the brave Captain and the rest of the crew go full throttle into the enemy spaceship.

1. The black goo is something that alters DNA and weaponizes it.
2. The geologist became weaponized after becoming infected by the black goo becoming a bezerker zombie.
3. Unkown. They are different ships on different planets. It is also unknown if it is a queen, because the queen featured in Aliens, which might not be considered canon by Scott.
4. It doesn't have anything to do with anything. It possibly something to do with the parent/sibling relationship. Except it doesn't because the script writers are lazy hacks.
5. ?
6. Because, "In order to create you need to destroy!!!!". No, I don't know what that means either...

1. The opening scene, what was that all about?
2. What was that black liquid that turned worms into super worms, but killed the alien dudes, tunes humans into zombies and even made a banana peel baby?
3. Why was Guy Pierce cast as an old dude?
4. What were the alien hollograms running away from?
5. Why was that stupid zombie dude scene included? Seriously why was it so bad?
6. What was the whole damn idea the aliens had? Why make this elaborate plan to kill us, with a biological weapon that apparently mutates all other life forms?

Ridley Scott stated that he was filming "the most aggressive film [he] could" by not caring about MPAA ratings, having support for such bold movement from 20th Century Fox CEO Tom Rothman, who addressed Alien fans by saying that he was "very aware of their concern", and that "they can take it that the film will not be compromised either way. So if that means that the film is R, then it'll be an R. If it's PG-13, then it'll be a PG-13, but it will not be compromised." Scott shot the film with both adult-only R and more accessible PG-13 film ratings in mind, allowing the more adult content to be cut if necessary without harming the overall presentation, given the case it was asked to be cut down. Eventually, the film was rated "R for Sci-Fi violence including some intense images, and brief language", and it was released without any demanded cuts.

I thought that the movie was suppose to be a prequel to Alien and that the events of Prometheus would lead into the start or at least lead into the events of Alien, of which there are many answers that are still left unanswered.
But that's not at all what the movie is, instead it's a separate movie all about the space jockey or
Engineers and how the seeded life on earth.

Now there are alot of things that happen in the movie that I also am with you and I don't understand, Vickers ending was poor and it felt like her character was finally coming into something, just as she dies. And the zombie guy, I really didn't get that at all... I know the worm liquid is suppose to be the basic building blocks for creating life, but also destroying (as you see at the start of the movie), but why it turned him into a zombie I'm not sure and I really think it would have done the film better to have cut that whole thing out.

The crew's actions and behaviour at first did seem a little jarring given like you said, what they are suppose to be, but the crew is in two separate parts, you have the guys picked by Vickers (that you never really see bar from the Captain and the pilots, and then you have the scientists picked by the Dr's... and if you watch through the previous Alien movies, they act and behave as is appropriate to that universe (for better or worse).



I think that the movie was suppose to try and be a big budget show piece that the Alien franchise deserved. Alien is a 'low' budget horror movie, Aliens is a bigger budget confined action horror movie, Alien 3 is basically Alien but with more religious over-tones and Alien Resurrection is a French Aliens.
With Prometheus it's kind of different in that it's a much bigger scale and isn't really horror and isn't really action at the same time. It's also trying to be separate from the Alien movies whilst still existing in that same universe, which I'm kind of glad off because I didn't want it to be a Batman Begins, though the movie isn't perfect it does for me anyway, a really good job of explaining and giving some background to the Space Jockey and also the Xenomorphs. Though it also leaves you with more questions.

After a second viewing I quite like the movie, though the 'lead man' is terrible, I don't much care for a lot of the dialogue, and it seems that some amazing actors where wasted with bad lines and cheap deaths. I still struggle with the ending and how the captain (who is relaxed and distant the whole movie) suddenly is willing to kill himself in order to stop the Engineer reaching Earth. Michael Fassbender stole the movie, his performance was amazing and by FAR the best, which was a shame because it made the lead woman seem weak.
With some strange pacing and some plot problems/inconsistencies it leaves a curious taste in the mouth, but I come away from it pretty happy.

the "engineers" creating life on earth by getting a poor sap to drink some goop that broke him down into his constituent amino acids, thus providing the basis for the generation of life.

If only I had that ship...
Also, gonna treat all of my appliances and electronics much nicer now lest they try to murder me

OK that I understand, but life already existed on planet Earth, judging by the grass lands in that very same scene. So they created humans only? Or animals, with the same DNA as we humans have? Not to mention that the aliens in the hallway were chased by something, apparently being affected by that green goo. Then the head exploded, it didn't dissolve, like the dude in the first scene.

Then we have these different drawings by ancient people of tall humanoids showing them a planet map. A map of a planet these humanoid aliens used as a base to attack/save? Why show ancient humans that? Did they try to warn them of something, like ''don't go there, you will awaken our evil dudes''? Why build such an ancient base in there? This and so much more. A few scenes could have easily explained all that, while maintaining the mystery and flow of the narrative. This whole things was just stupid writing, no excuse for it.

1. The same reason people believe in God now? Faith, being taught it at a young age, etc etc
2. Us being manufactured by an alien would disprove contemporary darwinian evolutionary theory
3. Everyone on board the ship got owned by their own weapon. The ship was flying away, for unknown purposes. Maybe to genocide a civilization like they intended. Maybe he just missed his flight! haha but I think everyone in the area got facehugged so he just thought it would be better to die. Besides you see cells dividing at the end of the sequence so perhaps it wasn't a suicide at all.
4. Never says they have a 100% match, it says a match. And she says that their DNA "preceeds" ours, meaning it isn't identical. a 2009 ford preceeds a 2010 ford and they aren't the same car, but its a lot closer than a completely different species would be i.e a 15 legged ball of fucking goo monster or something.
5. Same as above. The robot states that they are superior. Which they are.
6. Here is the timeline. They decided to make us, and they did. Why? The same reason that humans made the robot, and the same reason that we humans continue to push the boundaries of technology. I would mark this bullet as the beginning of where you bash the film based on your own misinterpretations, shortcomings, and misgivings. The robot and lead fem discuss it- the simplest way to put it is that they made humans "because they could". The power of science, of God. Anyway back to the timeline. Sometime after they made us they decided to destroy us. This is much more of a head scratcher and is left to the viewer. There are many reasons why humanity deserves to be destroyed IMO but its left up to you. Maybe they know something we don't. So they construct this awesome part zombifyng part facehugging weapon goo delivery system. But before they can launch the aliens murder them all. Bit of an oversight there and we don't know exactly what happened. Woops! Even engineers have accidents. Milennia later we discover their remains and the movie happens. The invitation wasnt really an invitation, the characters were wrong. The humans had knowledge of their creators and expressed it through cave paintings, as if they were Gods [which in a way they were]
7. An old ass man primarily concerned with immortality organized the expedition so there you go. And they knew about the weapons and protocol, enough to call for it when appropriate.
8. To feel fresh air as opposed to the cramped suit maybe. Or reduce the impairment of vision. Mind you they knew it was a habitable planet (or conjectured it) since we were led there from the cave paintings.
9. Naturally suspicious since the surface had high levels of CO2, just human nature to be afraid of stuff. Can you imagine being on another planet?
10. They were afraid, excited, all around emotional. Not thinking rationally which as you might remember happens a lot in the human race.
11. They showed up once an hour for a few seconds, doesn't follow logic. No life was believed to be there as well after they found the dead bodies so he had no reason to think it was an actual life form. The pattern was irregular, it would have been moving or reacting to the probe.
12. Immobilized by fear/wonder. Once again, humans are irrational and at times downright stupid. Some people also lack the survival instinct.
13. This is a crux of the movie. The android was patronized constantly throughout the movie even by his own "father". From this he developed a resentment of humans. At that point he wanted to see them die, or at least this particular one who had been pretty rude to him, regarding the suit earlier. It rustled his jimmies so he got revenge.
14. Didn't want to ruin the mission, didn't want to miss out on any discoveries, didn't want to alarm anyone and hoped it would just go away I imagine. once again, humans are silly creatures.
15. The area where they enter was said to be an airlock. The med bay served as a place where one could be decontaminated.
16. She opened the door because she wasn't going to let all of the crew die...? She was gonna roast the 1 guy and let the rest on to the ship. He was the only sick one.
17. I imagine he got some sick pleasure from it. He was harboring a lot of roboresentment. The android's feelings leave a lot of room for speculation i feel. In the end he had to listen to her orders, which was a quarantine code, which called for scans and bloodwork (bloodwork never happened). Besides he didnt tell her that it wasnt human. I bet he was banking on the fact that she fucked the other doctor 3 months ago- but she didnt, and that + the pain told her that it was something very wrong.
18. It did have anasthesia. She felt pain from the writhing alien rending her insides, thrashing around like a heavy metal concert. She woulda screamed a whole lot more if that orange goo wasnt on her.
19. Well we just suicided into his ship. I'd be pretty pissed. What else is there to do besides go and try to kill those dicks? And he had no knowledge of the creature in there.
20. It was at a different stage of development. It had time to grow to maturity in the engineer's body.
21. This is the hardest to answer in this list, for me. As I said earlier the android's emotions are a bit murky so I have to speculate. In the end he reminds me of pinocchio. Wants to be a real boy. And hes treated like shit. Maybe he realizes hey, i dont want to kill the entire human race. These other aliens are even bigger douches. Something like that. Besides he was just a goddamn head on the ground, not much room to be picky at that point. Gotta go with the flow when you go nohow to go.

Thank you for your time if you read all this and anything perceived as hostility is not

I agree with quite a few of your points in reply to hairy, but I think you are completely wrong about the android (lol this isnt meant to be hostile). I don't think he had feelings or "resentment" at any point in the film. He found what he assumed was a weapon and then tested it on one of the crew out of curiosity, he wasn't intending to murder him, and then had then couldn't feel anything after it occured, there was no revenge intended, he was just experimenting with Weyland's interests in mind. Subsequently, using this interpretation, at the end of the film he is just helping out the crew again, as was his programming. However how she found the android and then subsequentally navigated her way to another ship is beyond me, also how her oxygen levels in her suit returned to full during her fight with the engineer...

It also bugs me that Vickers is portrayed to be the villan, when in fact she is the only person thinking logically in the whole film. the reason she opened the doors was so she could save her team. The infected bloke wasn't hostile, so she opened the doors to communicate with her team, and since they refused to cooperate she killed the infected bloke. As many people have said, the freaking zombie scene after that was retarded and unnecessary, all that needed to be done was show that the infection could spread, rather than it made a dead guy super strong and murderous...

Another thing I see people getting wrong is about why the engineers look different to humans despite having the same DNA. We are all taller and look different to how people looked 1000 years ago, and as the engineers massivly predate the humans it is logical that they will have changed in appearance to how we look. I kind of got that we were essentially like the android to them, except they perfected the creation process whilst we hadn't, hence the whole feelings business.

All in all I thought the visuals were spectacular, and the film started off really well. But the characters' motivations were all over the place (touching an unknown alien after finding a giant pile of dead bodies? seriously?), and how it felt stupidly rushed towards the end kinda ruined the whole film. Also why the fuck didn't the lead woman tell Vickers that there was a fucking alien in her room? Did she not think that was important at any point?

Anyway, I have a lot more things I could say about this film, but was only intending to comment on the whole android thing haha, kinda got out of hand.

EDIT: also, it seems like the only reason she said she was infertile was to get around talk of contraception. The film would literally not be changed if when she was told she was pregnant she said "I can't be, I was careful" or some shit like that, rather than saying she couldn't have children so that the younger audience aren't confused.