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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
Also, Noomi Rapace was the female protagonist in The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo - crazy. Great actress. | ||
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WTFZerg
United States704 Posts
Few things that bothered me... + Show Spoiler + OH HEY A STRANGE NEW LIFE FORM. "HEY BEAUTIFUL, IMA POKE YOU" OH HEY I JUST HAD AN ALIEN SQUID EXTRACTED FROM ME, BUT DON'T WORRY IT'S JUST CHILLING IN YOUR SURGERY POD At any rate, by the time Humanity reaches the stars, I hope mission organizers look back at all the horror sci-fi movies and say "Yeah, we're bringing more guns than we have people and enough nuclear and conventional explosives to level a continent." | ||
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MarcH
United Kingdom362 Posts
On June 09 2012 03:45 Quotidian wrote: your loss then. I'm guessing you feel that way about a lot of big Hollywood movies as well? I think your missing the point slightly | ||
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Makra
Australia50 Posts
On June 09 2012 03:40 Hairy wrote: I really cannot believe that we watched the same film. I think I'm going to abandon my incredulity, and the thread, because I've made my opinion quite clear already, and there's no need to argue the point. But seriously, folks, if you have ALIENS COMING OUT OF YOUR EYES freaking tell someone. Please. Lol, you seem pretty hung up about the aliens coming out of his eyes part. I don't think that's really an issue in terms of character believability/dumb actions performed by characters in the movie. Maybe he was afraid he would be quarantined, even worse, thrown off the ship if he told someone. Maybe he was hungover from the night before (as he had started drinking when they got back to the ship) and just thought he wasn't seeing clearly. It was really only a split second moment where you could barely see the miniscule worm thing pop out of his eye. | ||
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MarcH
United Kingdom362 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:10 Makra wrote: Lol, you seem pretty hung up about the aliens coming out of his eyes part. I don't think that's really an issue in terms of character believability/dumb actions performed by characters in the movie. Maybe he was afraid he would be quarantined, even worse, thrown off the ship if he told someone. Maybe he was hungover from the night before (as he had started drinking when they got back to the ship) and just thought he wasn't seeing clearly. It was really only a split second moment where you could barely see the miniscule worm thing pop out of his eye. Yes of all the problems the film has that is not one of them | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
..which is? | ||
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MarcH
United Kingdom362 Posts
That a lot of Hollywood blockbusters are dumb they have a simple plot that leads from one action set piece to another with fairly simple characters that you can either root for or dislike. Prometheus though is a mess the film looks good at the start but as soon as they hit the moon the film starts to fall apart. The film does not know who the bad guy is and because of that It fails to really get going and the plot is overly complicated because of this. The big reveals aren't surprising and the second half of the film feels rushed. These all lead to the story being full of holes. I feel some of this is down the fact their is a very obvious sequel coming so the film makes think they can fill in all the plot holes and tie up all the loose ends their but that is not good story telling it is lazy. And Im not against cliff hanger endings if the film stands up on its own but Prometheus does not. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
On June 09 2012 03:59 Xxio wrote: Roger Ebert wrote: "...staggering visuals, expert horror, mind-challenging ideas and enough unanswered questions to prime the inevitable sequel." I certainly hope he's right. Also, Noomi Rapace was the female protagonist in The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo - crazy. Great actress. Scott said at comic-con that he wanted to do a sequel | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
On June 09 2012 03:04 Xxio wrote: It's a great movie. Very, very good science fiction. I think some of the people finding so-called plot holes should watch Prometheus for a second time. I enjoyed the characters, the plot, and everything else. Wish it was longer. yeah have to say, after a 2nd viewing the movie made alot more sense in my head and I enjoyed it alot more. | ||
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
I have a feeling I will not like this movie when I see it | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:42 heroyi wrote: From all the posts I have been reading about how the characters making dumb decisions and the plot falling off I can't but help imagine this sounds like a cliche bad sci-fi movie where every scene just makes you scratch your head and say wtf? I have a feeling I will not like this movie when I see it Some people just want everything spelled out for them, every possible question answered. Why, I have no idea. But this isn't a Disney movie with a storybook ending. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:47 Xxio wrote: Some people just want everything spelled out for them, every possible question answered. Why, I have no idea. But this isn't a Disney movie with a storybook ending. Yeah, also I think that people who come at it from the angle of it being an Alien prequil will be dissapointed becasue it really isn't that. It reminds me alot of Blade Runner and how that came out at the box-office, people either loved, or hated it... and most just 'didn't get it'... | ||
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Makra
Australia50 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:47 Xxio wrote: Some people just want everything spelled out for them, every possible question answered. Why, I have no idea. But this isn't a Disney movie with a storybook ending. Agreed. I wonder what the reaction would be if The Matrix was only just released this year. Not that I'm comparing the two movies at all. I just think people are jumping to conclusions about the plot before really having time to figure it out. | ||
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MarcH
United Kingdom362 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:47 Xxio wrote: Some people just want everything spelled out for them, every possible question answered. Why, I have no idea. But this isn't a Disney movie with a storybook ending. I think your misunderstanding the complaints people want believable characters and a story that makes sense having to think is not a bad thing but a confusing and badly written plot is a bad thing | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:49 baldgye wrote: Yeah, also I think that people who come at it from the angle of it being an Alien prequil will be dissapointed becasue it really isn't that. It reminds me alot of Blade Runner and how that came out at the box-office, people either loved, or hated it... and most just 'didn't get it'... Yeah, the same goes for Alien (1979). If I recall, the two movies didn't get a lot of praise until a director's/extended cut was released where people started to change their mind. | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:29 MarcH wrote: That a lot of Hollywood blockbusters are dumb they have a simple plot that leads from one action set piece to another with fairly simple characters that you can either root for or dislike. Prometheus though is a mess the film looks good at the start but as soon as they hit the moon the film starts to fall apart. The film does not know who the bad guy is and because of that It fails to really get going and the plot is overly complicated because of this. The big reveals aren't surprising and the second half of the film feels rushed. These all lead to the story being full of holes. + Show Spoiler + Prometheus' plot isn't exactly complex either. It's certainly no more complex than for instance any MiB movie. Geographically, it's a very simple movie to follow. You're either in the Alien structure, the Prometheus or somewhere in between. The plot is basically: people go to alien planet, discover alien stuff. Some people have ulterior motives and are not above exploiting other people to achieve their goals. Then monsters kill stuff. It's a monster movie. The threat is meant to come from the outside. Prometheus does that just fine. Monsters kill shit, just like in every other movie of its genre. And I like that it's somewhat ambiguous who the internal threat is (though not really) It never "fell apart" for me. I was captivated from the get-go, and it retained its hold so well that I'm going to see it again tomorrow. Sure, I was groaning at what some of the characters were saying, but it's not an Ibsen play.. it's a monster sci fi movie. Adjust your expectations. And I certainly had enough to latch on to - I was rooting for the female lead, and I was intrigued/rooting for David. I think it's a dumb movie with dumb characters, some novel set pieces, and some generic set pieces. But I don't think it's especially messy considering all the different elements it's throwing around. Though I agree that the ending was forced and played a bit too much on the standard Alien/Ripley ending. I would not have minded if the female protagonist died. On June 09 2012 04:38 baldgye wrote: Scott said at comic-con that he wanted to do a sequel he's doing Blade Runner first! Hopefully Damon Lindelof is kept away from that one .. Scott is working with one of the original script writers as far as I understand from imdb. But Scott is already 75 years old.. I just hope he has enough left him to keep going for a while. Prometheus was done in about 2 years, so he is certainly still very productive | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:57 Quotidian wrote: + Show Spoiler + Prometheus' plot isn't exactly complex either. It's certainly no more complex than for instance any MiB movie. Geographically, it's a very simple movie to follow. You're either in the Alien structure, the Prometheus or somewhere in between. The plot is basically: people go to alien planet, discover alien stuff. Some people have ulterior motives and are not above exploiting other people to achieve their goals. Then monsters kill stuff. It's a monster movie. The threat is meant to come from the outside. Prometheus does that just fine. Monsters kill shit, just like in every other movie of its genre. And I like that it's somewhat ambiguous who the internal threat is (though not really) It never "fell apart" for me. I was captivated from the get-go, and it retained its hold so well that I'm going to see it again tomorrow. Sure, I was groaning at what some of the characters were saying, but it's not an Ibsen play.. it's a monster sci fi movie. Adjust your expectations. And I certainly had enough to latch on to - I was rooting for the female lead, and I was intrigued/rooting for David. I think it's a dumb movie with dumb characters, some novel set pieces, and some generic set pieces. But I don't think it's especially messy considering all the different elements it's throwing around. Though I agree that the ending was forced and played a bit too much on the standard Alien/Ripley ending. I would not have minded if the female protagonist died. he's doing Blade Runner first! Hopefully Damon Lindelof is kept away from that one .. Scott is working with one of the original script writers as far as I understand from imdb. But Scott is already 75 years old.. I just hope he has enough left him to keep going for a while. Prometheus was done in about 2 years, so he is certainly still very productive yeah, as a huge BR fan, still not sure how to feel about BR2 :/ | ||
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MarcH
United Kingdom362 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:57 Quotidian wrote: + Show Spoiler + Prometheus' plot isn't exactly complex either. It's certainly no more complex than for instance any MiB movie. Geographically, it's a very simple movie to follow. You're either in the Alien structure, the Prometheus or somewhere in between. The plot is basically: people go to alien planet, discover alien stuff. Some people have ulterior motives and are not above exploiting other people to achieve their goals. Then monsters kill stuff. It's a monster movie. The threat is meant to come from the outside. Prometheus does that just fine. Monsters kill shit, just like in every other movie of its genre. And I like that it's somewhat ambiguous who the internal threat is (though not really) It never "fell apart" for me. I was captivated from the get-go, and it retained its hold so well that I'm going to see it again tomorrow. Sure, I was groaning at what some of the characters were saying, but it's not an Ibsen play.. it's a monster sci fi movie. Adjust your expectations. And I certainly had enough to latch on to - I was rooting for the female lead, and I was intrigued/rooting for David. I think it's a dumb movie with dumb characters, some novel set pieces, and some generic set pieces. But I don't think it's especially messy considering all the different elements it's throwing around. Though I agree that the ending was forced and played a bit too much on the standard Alien/Ripley ending. I would not have minded if the female protagonist died. he's doing Blade Runner first! Hopefully Damon Lindelof is kept away from that one .. Scott is working with one of the original script writers as far as I understand from imdb. But Scott is already 75 years old.. I just hope he has enough left him to keep going for a while. Prometheus was done in about 2 years, so he is certainly still very productive + Show Spoiler + I think your overly simplifying the plot. You claim the film is a monster movie but what exactly is the monster is it the mutant worm or the mutant geologist both of which are killed of fairly rapidly, or is the monster the Engineer which makes a 10 minute appearance at the end. All of these monsters are only minor parts of the film and the main portion of the film is made up of David being suspicious and poisoning the male archaeologist. Your claim that this is a monster movie is in my opinion wrong when their is no monster in the film lasting longer than one (admittedly visually quite impressive) scene except the Engineer at the end. The whole film seems to lead up to him being the bad guy but the film has dragged on for so long by that point that he has very little time to be the monster in the film and the whole middle of the film leading up to him being woken up drags on for to long and is overly complicated and while the film may not be a direct prequel to Alien it still uses a lot of the same details as the original Alien films ( A female lead, only one survivor and a bad android). A lot of the film feels unnecessary and is simply their to either fill time of kill people off. The basic premise of the film that the Engineers are bad and wanted to destroy earth could have been told in a much simpler and more elegant way without the whole Wayland is on the ship and David has ulterior motives subplot and the black goo seeding of earth nonsense. Had that happened the films could have still reached the same point of everyone being dead except Elizabeth and David and have them setting off to get more answers | ||
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teapot
United Kingdom266 Posts
On June 09 2012 04:57 Quotidian wrote: + Show Spoiler + Prometheus' plot isn't exactly complex either. It's certainly no more complex than for instance any MiB movie. Geographically, it's a very simple movie to follow. You're either in the Alien structure, the Prometheus or somewhere in between. The plot is basically: people go to alien planet, discover alien stuff. Some people have ulterior motives and are not above exploiting other people to achieve their goals. Then monsters kill stuff. It's a monster movie. The threat is meant to come from the outside. Prometheus does that just fine. Monsters kill shit, just like in every other movie of its genre. And I like that it's somewhat ambiguous who the internal threat is (though not really) It never "fell apart" for me. I was captivated from the get-go, and it retained its hold so well that I'm going to see it again tomorrow. Sure, I was groaning at what some of the characters were saying, but it's not an Ibsen play.. it's a monster sci fi movie. Adjust your expectations. And I certainly had enough to latch on to - I was rooting for the female lead, and I was intrigued/rooting for David. I think it's a dumb movie with dumb characters, some novel set pieces, and some generic set pieces. But I don't think it's especially messy considering all the different elements it's throwing around. Though I agree that the ending was forced and played a bit too much on the standard Alien/Ripley ending. I would not have minded if the female protagonist died. he's doing Blade Runner first! Hopefully Damon Lindelof is kept away from that one .. Scott is working with one of the original script writers as far as I understand from imdb. But Scott is already 75 years old.. I just hope he has enough left him to keep going for a while. Prometheus was done in about 2 years, so he is certainly still very productive It doesn't really matter considering Philip K Dick has been dead for years... Maybe you are hoping Peter Jackson will make a sequel to Lord of the Rings too? | ||
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