The last season ended with House crashing his car into Cuddy's home, which leads to his arrest. The season begins about a year after the incident, with House in prison.
Biggest news about this season (IMO) is that Lisa Edelstein WILL NOT be returning. The rest of the cast will be, although Olivia Wilde's appearances will be scarce. In addition, the season will feature two new members: Odette Anabelle and Charlyne Yi.
Can't wait ^^. Does anyone know if only the first episode will feature house in prison? Kind of like the "Broken" one when he stayed in rehab and they made a super episode?
There was a pre screen release missing some special effects for the first episode, House is in jail at least the first one and i think at least 1 more episode in there
On October 01 2011 00:51 Godstorm wrote: Can't wait ^^. Does anyone know if only the first episode will feature house in prison? Kind of like the "Broken" one when he stayed in rehab and they made a super episode?
House is in prison, and he needs to be good for a single week to get out early on parole (because of overpopulation). The question is whether or not House can get by with being good for that long... and he needs to swallow his pride a lot and try to make friends with assholes. There's obviously a bunch of new characters in this episode and a bunch of interesting twists... and you meet someone who I believe is going to be a permanent character on the show + Show Spoiler +
1st episode has been leaked for a while. It's really good, as you would expect from House being in prison. No matter how hard he tries House can't keep himself from getting in trouble, even under threat of being shanked.
On October 01 2011 01:03 Candadar wrote: Sorry for being late, but why did House drive his car into Lisa's house in the season finale last time? Never got to watching the final episode.
To summarize it quickly, House was still struggling with his and Cuddy's breakup, being very self-destructive and reckless (more so than usual). He basically reaches a boiling point at the end of the episode/season: + Show Spoiler +
I liked the first episode, can't wait to see what's next. Also, new girl is atractive, I like her much more than 13 (not a fan of the actress). Am I right that we will see her again in the series? (new girl)
On October 01 2011 05:17 Hemula wrote: I liked the first episode, can't wait to see what's next. Also, new girl is atractive, I like her much more than 13 (not a fan of the actress). Am I right that we will see her again in the series? (new girl)
Ya most definitely because he's still in jail and after what happened he's gonna be in jail longer. I don't know if they're gonna skip scenes and the next part will him being out of jail but I also think shes more charismatic than 13.
Good first show. Enjoyed the interactions amongst his cell mates. Still can't really say much about Adams, other than her being attractive. Waiting to see how House and Adams will interact outside a prison setting (House excessively degrading her like he does all his other associates). Aside from the end, the patient plot was pretty typical; but all-in-all, a good premiere in my opinion.
Preview for episode 2 looked interesting. It looked like he was on parole, although episode 1 led me to believe he wouldn't receive it after his Advil stunt? Looks like House will be on a tight leash (similarly to how he was while he was re-acquiring his license in season 6).
Great episode. The romantic in me is really hoping that House ends up in a relationship with that girl doctor from the prison so he can finally be happy. :p
Great episode, although, I saw the outcome of the brawl from a mile away, it was very obvious. Nevertheless the basic idea of House in jail is brilliant.
it was cool, I really like that new girl doctor but I HATE HOUSE IN JAIL. God I hope he will get out it just doesnt feel right. but at least put there Olivia Wild too. ofc as the doc. so there can be 2 of them taking care of House. that would be nice : )
I'm rather glad that he's gonna be staying in jail for at least a few more episodes. Always interesting to see him solve cases. I'm surprised that Wilson hasn't visited him. From the background they gave he hasn't had any visitors and he hasn't made any outbound calls either.
After the first episode there is just no way that they should let House have anything to do with the patients in jail. Haven't been in jail but i could guess that it just ain't the place where they put up And it is just not realistic that the old hospital would consult him because of the car thing no matter how brilliant he is when it comes to medicine.
But what i understood from the IMDB they are going to do exactly that so probably pretty shitty season coming up.
After the first episode there is just no way that they should let House have anything to do with the patients in jail. Haven't been in jail but i could guess that it just ain't the place where they put up And it is just not realistic that the old hospital would consult him because of the car thing no matter how brilliant he is when it comes to medicine.
But what i understood from the IMDB they are going to do exactly that so probably pretty shitty season coming up.
I definitely see your point about how the next few episodes might be illogical, but let's see what happens
It's the last season of House, and I've been watching it since the series started, so I'm not giving up on it yet (despite its ups and downs) ^^
After the first episode there is just no way that they should let House have anything to do with the patients in jail. Haven't been in jail but i could guess that it just ain't the place where they put up And it is just not realistic that the old hospital would consult him because of the car thing no matter how brilliant he is when it comes to medicine.
But what i understood from the IMDB they are going to do exactly that so probably pretty shitty season coming up.
It's the last season of House, and I've been watching it since the series started, so I'm not giving up on it yet (despite its ups and downs) ^^
They said it's the last season!?!?! WHYYYYYY!!!!!??????????????????? This makes me soooo sad. I'm gonna cry!
On October 05 2011 00:14 EtohEtoh wrote: haven't watched house in like 2 years, but saw this episode, and despite the location, the show is still completely the same lol
That's always been the complaint about House for the past two or three years. They really, really need to change the formula entirely.
Not to mention how it was speculated that he will leave like two seasons ago. But, no it hasn't been confirmed. But i just hope they'll end the show before its really too late.
I was underwhelmed. Compared to the two last season opening episodes, this one really had nothing at all (ok, the doctor was hot). No pranks, no witty remarks, no cool characters (S6E1 had Alvie, the shrink and his love interest which all were pretty cool) no character development in House himself, no new storylines pretty meh. I really hope it get's better- ending on a bad season wouldn't do the series any justice.
On October 05 2011 00:14 EtohEtoh wrote: haven't watched house in like 2 years, but saw this episode, and despite the location, the show is still completely the same lol
That's always been the complaint about House for the past two or three years. They really, really need to change the formula entirely.
Not really, that's just what House is. It's entertainment, not art. They could always use a better cast and less one dimensional characters (besides him) but ultimately it's about him being the way he is.
After the first episode there is just no way that they should let House have anything to do with the patients in jail. Haven't been in jail but i could guess that it just ain't the place where they put up And it is just not realistic that the old hospital would consult him because of the car thing no matter how brilliant he is when it comes to medicine.
But what i understood from the IMDB they are going to do exactly that so probably pretty shitty season coming up.
It's the last season of House, and I've been watching it since the series started, so I'm not giving up on it yet (despite its ups and downs) ^^
They said it's the last season!?!?! WHYYYYYY!!!!!??????????????????? This makes me soooo sad. I'm gonna cry!
Nothing is confirmed, but from what I have gathered at tv.com, the show is getting expensive because of wages. Some of the actors are getting cut in number of episodes to keep costs down and also taking heavy wage-losses. Crisis it is! At the same time last season gave the worst ratings so far for the series and because of that they were already hesitant to buy season 8. As far as I know Cuddy is already finding new opportunities, while House, Wilson and Foreman are uncertain about their will to continue.
House is all about Hugh Laurie ... no one would watch it, if he wasn't there ... You can see that in all the episodes where the other characters do not appear. He's the sole reason that the series still exists.
On October 05 2011 00:14 EtohEtoh wrote: haven't watched house in like 2 years, but saw this episode, and despite the location, the show is still completely the same lol
That's always been the complaint about House for the past two or three years. They really, really need to change the formula entirely.
Not really, that's just what House is. It's entertainment, not art. They could always use a better cast and less one dimensional characters (besides him) but ultimately it's about him being the way he is.
Exactly. So why bother with the formality of a patient of the week, or a diagnostic team? The House character and Hugh Laurie are strong enough that they should just break the mold.
I would watch a show about House and Wilson in a third world country solving mysteries or something. They've basically done almost everything you can do in the context of a hospital.
Overall a decent episode. I liked that they tried to shy away from just the typical patient formula, it worked quite well with everything else going on.
Although a little odd at times, Dr. Chi Park seems like a nice addition; almost acting as a Dr. Masters replacement, yet not being preoccupied by every moral dilemma. I'm just waiting and hoping for an episode where she snaps on House (it WILL happen!).
Also, I think I might have to start a running tally for every mention of Lupus this season.
I think the second episode was a little disappointing. In my opinion they could have gotten more out of the whole prison thing, he got out of there too fast and easy if you ask me. Also what will happen to that doctor in the hospital, she was very interesting (a lot like house himself), was that just for one episode?
Things just got back to "normal" way to fast if you ask me.
The thing about this tv series is, if they change House and make him something else viewers will lose interest, you can't just change the main char of a very popular tv series and "hope for the best", it just won't work. This show was/is ( you can debate ) so popular because House is like he is, so changing it makes no sense. I personally like the newer seasons much more and I hope they bring Taub back, he was by far my favorite char on the show.
With only one season left I'm hoping they actually do some final character development rather than "let house be a jerk for one last season." I'll watch it either way though.
On October 11 2011 23:52 Jibba wrote: Lol, they did a full reset in under 5 minutes,
Not a full reset but pretty much. Not too pleased with it but eh, still a decent amount of potential in it.
On October 11 2011 20:46 Nokarot wrote: With only one season left I'm hoping they actually do some final character development rather than "let house be a jerk for one last season." I'll watch it either way though.
Hell no, if house changes they'll throw away the series. They'll ruin the end of the series.
The series would be kind of stupid if House were to change. I mean there would be no reason to watch it anymore. The way Hugh Laurie plays House makes up for 99% of the series. You can see how unimportant the rest of the cast is, when watching episodes without them. Works perfectly fine, as long as House is House.
And to be honest, there can be only one ending to conclude the whole series in my opinion.
On October 12 2011 05:43 Kuni wrote: The series would be kind of stupid if House were to change. I mean there would be no reason to watch it anymore. The way Hugh Laurie plays House makes up for 99% of the series. You can see how unimportant the rest of the cast is, when watching episodes without them. Works perfectly fine, as long as House is House.
And to be honest, there can be only one ending to conclude the whole series in my opinion.
This is totally true. Even when they first rotated out Chase/Cameron/Foreman and I was apprehensive about such a drastic change to the cast, it ended up being completely fine, even as they've continued to change it up. House =/= House.
On October 12 2011 05:43 Kuni wrote: The series would be kind of stupid if House were to change. I mean there would be no reason to watch it anymore. The way Hugh Laurie plays House makes up for 99% of the series. You can see how unimportant the rest of the cast is, when watching episodes without them. Works perfectly fine, as long as House is House.
And to be honest, there can be only one ending to conclude the whole series in my opinion.
Yeah I pretty much agree with you on both accounts here.
Considering how he acts, lives etc. i feel that him dying is one of few good endings to the series. But with that in mind i can't see him going on a bender again and them letting him stay at the hospital practicing.
On October 12 2011 06:09 Odoakar wrote: I was certain there couldn't be a worse character that Masters...enter the 13 year old looking socially akward doctor.
The series keeps plumeting, the only reason I watch now is a sick mazochism.
I felt like she was there- instead of the distinguished doctors of seasons passed- to show that even his old practice had hit rock bottom. (That's also why his office got moved, his stuff got thrown into storage, etc.)
It'll be interesting to see what happens from now until the end of the season. Is he actually going to be working with her? Is she going to get replaced by a hot doctor? Is the old staff coming back? I can't see her being a consistent doctor on the show, but maybe for a little while.
I'm a bigtime House fanbody, too, but I kinda found the second episode to be a little lacking. The whole thing just felt so bleak and unhappy. Then again, most episodes that lack House's team seem this way for me. I love the dynamic they have.
Oh, and the little Asian girl... I hope she's not a permanent fixture in the season.
On October 14 2011 05:00 MeatSnack wrote: I'm a bigtime House fanbody, too, but I kinda found the second episode to be a little lacking. The whole thing just felt so bleak and unhappy. Then again, most episodes that lack House's team seem this way for me. I love the dynamic they have.
Oh, and the little Asian girl... I hope she's not a permanent fixture in the season.
What do you mean? She's awesome!
But yeah the episodes get quite dull when most of the main characters from previous seasons isn't in the episode. I like the fact that they often start out seasons a bit different though so let's hope that is what's going these first two episodes.
On October 14 2011 07:05 sGs.Kal_rA wrote: They need to bring back Cameron. Loved the Cameron / House dynamic (=
I seriously miss Cameron. She was cool as hell. But the way she went was... some of the best TV I've watched.
On October 14 2011 07:16 Shinobi1982 wrote: Wilson is such a pussy, lol. And I give Foreman 2 episodes before he caves in and House rides him however he wants.
On October 15 2011 02:14 how2TL wrote: The Asian girl isn't hot but she is a more interesting character than prison doctor girl.
Can't have it both ways it seems.
pretty much every main female character of the series so far has been both hot and interesting for me. if you couldnt see how hot masters was through a little bit of 'nerd' clothing then i feel sorry for you ;d
On October 14 2011 07:16 Shinobi1982 wrote: Wilson is such a pussy, lol. And I give Foreman 2 episodes before he caves in and House rides him however he wants.
ha,I'm going to bet half way through next episode.
On October 12 2011 05:43 Kuni wrote: The series would be kind of stupid if House were to change. I mean there would be no reason to watch it anymore. The way Hugh Laurie plays House makes up for 99% of the series. You can see how unimportant the rest of the cast is, when watching episodes without them. Works perfectly fine, as long as House is House.
And to be honest, there can be only one ending to conclude the whole series in my opinion.
Yeah I pretty much agree with you on both accounts here.
Can't help but think that the series gets too repetitive, at the start of the season House starts in a really bad place (asylum/prison), with few friends, and by the end of the season everything goes super smoothly, everythings pretty perfect until he ruins it all in the last episode, so he can start at the bottom again next season.
Really hope that they won't follow this pattern too strictly this time around.
On October 15 2011 02:14 how2TL wrote: The Asian girl isn't hot but she is a more interesting character than prison doctor girl.
Can't have it both ways it seems.
Cameron? Thirteen? You didn't find them interesting?
Also, I think that the prison doctor can *become* interesting. She did, after all, disobey direct orders just to appease House's ingenuity. She was willing to do what it took to save the patient, much like House does.
And she's hot >.>
And she was only in a single episode. I have a feeling she'll be back
This is how I see House. I usually just DVR most of the shows I watch and watch them whenever. And going through my list, I actually didnt want to watch that first episode. Ive never been a hater, even if the show was going down hill a bit, I still loved watching it, but as this season started, I was hesitant. I didnt watch it until the next week after the 2nd episode.
In the end, I still enjoyed the series, was still laughing at the same House antics, I basically blank out any possible stupid things and just take things as they go. I learn to just accept characters, always thought Taub was boring, but never really let it stop me from enjoying the show.
On October 15 2011 02:36 Kawoomba wrote: Can't help but think that the series gets too repetitive, at the start of the season House starts in a really bad place (asylum/prison), with few friends, and by the end of the season everything goes super smoothly, everythings pretty perfect until he ruins it all in the last episode, so he can start at the bottom again next season.
Really hope that they won't follow this pattern too strictly this time around.
this is the last season so the pattern will end either way :D
Cameron? Thirteen? You didn't find them interesting?
Thirteen was painfully forced and uninteresting.
Well... sucks to be you... She is back next episode, as seen in the previews.
I think the show needs to add a doctor to the hospital that is like House but better. I feel a plot line like this could have a lot of potential. Especially once the new doctor outshines him in every way. Sadly though i dont think they are going to do anything special this season.... just the same old House....
Cameron? Thirteen? You didn't find them interesting?
Thirteen was painfully forced and uninteresting.
Well... sucks to be you... She is back next episode, as seen in the previews.
I think the show needs to add a doctor to the hospital that is like House but better. I feel a plot line like this could have a lot of potential. Especially once the new doctor outshines him in every way. Sadly though i dont think they are going to do anything special this season.... just the same old House....
.... Which i LOVE :p
I'm pretty sure the House 2.0 would realistically be killed off in two episodes by House lol
The two new doctors dynamic could be interesting. I'll reserve judgment on that though.
I want to hear some news about Taub's situation though... with his wife and the nurse Ruby both pregnant. Hahaha, that was so epic from last season ending.
The episodes are really good but still they feel lacking. I hate when TV shows skip lots of plot and remove lots of characters in between seasons. One year is too much to skip. For example, it made me so angry when Battlestar Galactica + Show Spoiler +
skipped a whole year from season 2 to season 3
i mean, you can't just ignore all of the old plotlines and stories. You have to resolve them, dammit! I want closure!!!
On October 15 2011 02:14 how2TL wrote: The Asian girl isn't hot but she is a more interesting character than prison doctor girl.
Can't have it both ways it seems.
pretty much every main female character of the series so far has been both hot and interesting for me. if you couldnt see how hot masters was through a little bit of 'nerd' clothing then i feel sorry for you ;d
Masters was cute, I admit.
Every hot doctor has a sexual tension thing with House going on and it got a bit stale.
I'm not happy the asian chick isn't hot but I'm glad for a changeup, if small and mostly insignificant.
That episode was exactly the classic House formula. Patients acting weird and getting diagnosed based off philosophical arguments, House going behind other Doctor's backs with the medical tricks, House screwing with people, and finally House helping someone he cares about in a characteristically dickish way. I loved every minute.
show has been going downhill for so long it just needs to end (imo).
adams and thirteen are so hot though. the girls the show chooses are amazing. if the show ends this season, hopefully we get to see cameron and thirteen again. cuddy too.
On October 18 2011 13:46 Rwrr wrote: So the overall decline of the hospital...what was the cause of it again? A year later the offices start to look like a highschool
Probably shows the difference between Forman and Cuddy. A mans touch will always be more for purpose than looks. Why spend all that money making a hospital look stylish when the only reason you go there is to get cured. Mens interior design is usually practical, womens is usually more stylish! Cuddy probably spent money to make the place look nice
Could also be an introspection into their Souls....Forman always makes me think a simple man with a bland personality only their for function. The 'clutter' of cuddy's office could represent the confusion inside her head with the whole troubles with house, juggling family life and work life and thus creating confusion and the need for more material things she CAN control....
i think it's because they don't have money anymore. they were a small hospital to begin with, treating a lot of patients for free. probably had to do with less of an endowment.
On October 18 2011 14:44 phyren wrote: That episode was exactly the classic House formula. Patients acting weird and getting diagnosed based off philosophical arguments, House going behind other Doctor's backs with the medical tricks, House screwing with people, and finally House helping someone he cares about in a characteristically dickish way. I loved every minute.
This pretty well describes how I felt. I loved the back-n-forth between Adams and Park, and then House taking advantage of the two in the end.
On October 18 2011 14:44 phyren wrote: That episode was exactly the classic House formula. Patients acting weird and getting diagnosed based off philosophical arguments, House going behind other Doctor's backs with the medical tricks, House screwing with people, and finally House helping someone he cares about in a characteristically dickish way. I loved every minute.
This pretty well describes how I felt. I loved the back-n-forth between Adams and Park, and then House taking advantage of the two in the end.
Two weeks until the next episode
Yeah loved it to. Don't see why people get bored of it.
Medical drama on life support after 7 seasons? Surprise surprise.. Anyways, like the new char (asian girl) more than any member of the previous team at least. That's not to say a lot.
I liked Chase, he really grew as a character, combining a lot of the cynical outlook of House with his own self serving pragmatism and his search for an objectivity to replace his religious upbringing.
Park was definitely a better actor this episode than last - her lines seemed a lot less monotone and she didn't stick out like a sore thumb.
House is back to his manipulative ways, and the patient was actually interesting. However, this wasn't the first episode in which a "positive-characteristic-is-a-symptom" episode occurred (see "No More Mr. Nice Guy"). However, I did enjoy the return to the roots and this episode overall. I hope there are more like it. There'll likely be another episode for each team member House wants back.
On October 19 2011 10:15 Fiel wrote: Park was definitely a better actor this episode than last - her lines seemed a lot less monotone and she didn't stick out like a sore thumb.
House is back to his manipulative ways, and the patient was actually interesting. However, this wasn't the first episode in which a "positive-characteristic-is-a-symptom" episode occurred (see "No More Mr. Nice Guy"). However, I did enjoy the return to the roots and this episode overall. I hope there are more like it. There'll likely be another episode for each team member House wants back.
ive always felt house was at its best before it turned into a medical drama. at the start (for me) it felt like a drama, which happened to be in a hospital. houses need to solve puzzles, foreman dealing with his racial issues and stigmas, cameron's daddy issues and the mysterious past between cuddy house and wilson were all great story arcs. but then too much got revealed about the past, the staff kept coming and going which feels so unnatural, cuddy and house getting together etc etc i felt have weakened the show.
im actually excited that the new asian doctor is in the show purely because shes he first female character who its possible for them to maaaybbe avoid turning into a pure sex object.
i still enjoy the show, but since season 1 and 2 its really lost some of its edge
On October 19 2011 10:37 turdburgler wrote: ive always felt house was at its best before it turned into a medical drama. at the start (for me) it felt like a drama, which happened to be in a hospital. houses need to solve puzzles, foreman dealing with his racial issues and stigmas, cameron's daddy issues and the mysterious past between cuddy house and wilson were all great story arcs. but then too much got revealed about the past, the staff kept coming and going which feels so unnatural, cuddy and house getting together etc etc i felt have weakened the show.
im actually excited that the new asian doctor is in the show purely because shes he first female character who its possible for them to maaaybbe avoid turning into a pure sex object.
i still enjoy the show, but since season 1 and 2 its really lost some of its edge
SPOILERS ABOUT PREVIOUS SEASONS OF HOUSE IN THIS POST:
Cameron didn't have daddy issues. That was Chase. Also, House has daddy issues himself, but these come up far less often than Chase's daddy/alcohol issues.
All of the previous girls House personally hired had at least one reason of "Hot":
Cameron = She's hot. But also "beautiful" and "doctor" do not mix unless person is damaged Thirteen = She's hot. House manipulated Cuddy to get her. But also because of her secrets Adams = She's hot. But also because she's working for free. Terzi (from S04 "Whatever it takes") = She's hot. Really, that's the only reason. Fired in the same episode.
Some of the girls on his team were foisted upon him:
Masters = Cuddy's choice. At least one woman needs to be on the DDX team. Park = Foreman's choice. Neurology dept firing and House's return coinciding forces Foreman's hand.
These two women are not portrayed in the show as being "hot" (but Masters, played by Amber Tamblyn, is actually pretty hot in "The Ring" and "Joan of Arcadia" - just not portrayed as hot on House. She's portrayed as the frumpy dressed, socially awkward, med-school-is-my-life, honest-to-a-fault geek). So if you want main characters not portrayed as sex objects on the show then make sure an outside person forces her on the DDX team!
House went through a reset for season four (team all fired/quit), six (mental institution), and eight (jail). I hope House doesn't keep resetting though. It's getting a bit old.
I'm a total House addict, so I know most of the character histories. I'll keep watching until the series dies for sure.
BTW, my fav episodes tend to be the darker ones like S07E11 "Family Practice" and S05E09 "Last Resort". These really bring out the worst & best of every character with how intense they are.
To me the goodbye with 13 felt like the first of many. Since this is after all House's last season I wouldn't be surprised if Chase, Taub and perhaps even Cameron show up this season for their own goodbyes.
On October 19 2011 07:18 Gnax wrote: I'm gonna miss 13. That look on house face in the final scene was intense.
Yeah it was so fierce when he said those words.. FUCK 13 WHY NOOOOOOO DON'T LEAVE ;_; It's so LAME I read they were going to show her not through the whole season but a few episodes here and there then my friend tells me it's her last EP ;_;
Just watched the second and third episode. The second episode was sooooooooo good. Really brought me back into why I love this show. The third was awesome too. I'm gonna miss 13 =/ She was my favorite of the team
So how many episodes before Adams and Chase hook up? This is based on the preview from next week btw. Counting with next weeks episode as being 1. I'm gonna say...6 episodes.
On November 01 2011 11:09 Xinder wrote: So how many episodes before Adams and Chase hook up? This is based on the preview from next week btw. Counting with next weeks episode as being 1. I'm gonna say...6 episodes.
as long as we get to see Adams in a scantily clad outfit just short of nude, I am okay with any duration of time.
On November 01 2011 23:20 Pulimuli wrote: Well.. either the writers are retarded or they made Foreman retarded.. he called a drunk neurologist because he was the only one he could reach.
Didnt he forget something... oh right, he's a neurologist himself -_____-;
On November 01 2011 23:20 Pulimuli wrote: Well.. either the writers are retarded or they made Foreman retarded.. he called a drunk neurologist because he was the only one he could reach.
Didnt he forget something... oh right, he's a neurologist himself -_____-;
Oh shit. I didn't even catch that. Good call! Must have been like the previous poster said "he just had other shit to do". Yeah so what the patient was dying, he just figured that he still had more important things to do. All those meetings and what not. He is the Dean of Medicine after all. Busy busy busy.
Get the Asian chick out of the show NOW. My god she is annoying.
On November 01 2011 23:20 Pulimuli wrote: Well.. either the writers are retarded or they made Foreman retarded.. he called a drunk neurologist because he was the only one he could reach.
Didnt he forget something... oh right, he's a neurologist himself -_____-;
The new season is falling way flat compared to the previous one. I dislike both of the new characters since the way they were introduced made them look silly from the start. They are just a crutch for house and this is made pretty clear. They could at least try to create a tension between them not being of interest to House but being actual interesting characters but there is nothing there of. Instead they are just playing stupid games which are getting old pretty fast. Additionally they have made it much too clear that things can't get out of hand because otherwise House will end up in prison but this doesn't suit the series at all since it doesn't fit House at all. It makes everything look irrelevant to the main story. The way 13 went out wasn't very convincing either. At first she doesn't want to come back, then she comes back and then House fires her as if he would care. Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed.
I liked the episode, although I agree, the ending was kinda sad. I thought it was kinda weird the daughter seemed to ignore the insider trading happening right in front of her eyes, but I suppose she was too distraught.
I'm starting to not mind Foreman as Dean. In my opinion it works better when they give him brief appearances (usually a quick "No, you can't do that" of some sort) as opposed to having him get a lot of screen/speech time like he did in certain parts of episode 2.
I personally like Park. Yeah, she's a nerd, but at least shes a bit witty.
On November 02 2011 09:25 Atlas247 wrote: Boys are back in town next episode.
I'm hoping everything doesn't completely go back to normal next episode. Yeah, there will be new interactions with Chase, Taub, Park, and Adams; but it was refreshing seeing House with hardly no office, no team, and no money.
On November 01 2011 23:20 Pulimuli wrote: Well.. either the writers are retarded or they made Foreman retarded.. he called a drunk neurologist because he was the only one he could reach.
Didnt he forget something... oh right, he's a neurologist himself -_____-;
Nice catch.
Couldn't Foreman just have been busy with his duties as the Dean of Medicine? He's got a hospital to manage now...
Really liked the last episode. Could have used some more Wilson in it, but other than that, it was good old House. Both Adams and Park still are still quite bland (when compared with Masters who was quite the character), I hope they'll grow.
I like Foreman as Dean, could have wished for a more epic war with the orthopedist (?) though. The boys are back in town! Chase <-> Adams might be fun and also TAUB is back! (too bad his problem with the pregnant mistress + wife will probably be past already).
I honestly laughed REALLY hard at that last scene.......think I woke my neighbors up.....
Good episode....feel that this episode kind of caught what was missing in the previous few seasons...don't know how but it was definitely a return to form!
On November 09 2011 03:02 OptimusYale wrote: I honestly laughed REALLY hard at that last scene.......think I woke my neighbors up.....
Good episode....feel that this episode kind of caught what was missing in the previous few seasons...don't know how but it was definitely a return to form!
So did I! It's nice to have Chase and Taulb back! :D
So awesome to have chase and Taub back, they're schooling the new guys too. Interesting that Chase actually left medicine until House came back. He's more like House than i thought i guess.
The ending was hilarious, I agree with what you all are saying .
I hope I don't get raged at for this, but I think the new girl is a nice replacement for 13. Sure she needs to warm up to the spot a little bit, but I don't think she is horrible. She also isn't hard on the eyes.
On November 09 2011 09:27 Atlas247 wrote: So awesome to have chase and Taub back, they're schooling the new guys too. Interesting that Chase actually left medicine until House came back. He's more like House than i thought i guess.
That's what the beard that chase got is suggesting.
On November 15 2011 21:50 Doctorbeat wrote: That ending was hilarious.
Does anyone else think Adams & House are going to hit it off?
Doubt it- House is probably going to remain in his "I'm emotianally highly disfunctional" role. Probably wishful thinking on your part. Chase and Adams might get involved though. Would be a bit boring since it's so unoriginal and obvious, but might get some viewers just for the plain old Hollywood romantic interest stuff.
I thought the ending was pretty funny, but really out-of-sync with Foreman's character. It seems that that ending was strictly put in to get us to laugh (and it made me giggle), but Foreman would not have done that, based on the way he's been such a hard-ass to House lately. Made me a bit confused, especially when Wilson actually didn't care that Foreman screwed him over (again, not really his MO either).
I liked the way Taub is finally starting to develop some sort of moral compass though, because of his kids. We'll see if that lasts.
On November 15 2011 22:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I thought the ending was pretty funny, but really out-of-sync with Foreman's character. It seems that that ending was strictly put in to get us to laugh (and it made me giggle), but Foreman would not have done that, based on the way he's been such a hard-ass to House lately. Made me a bit confused, especially when Wilson actually didn't care that Foreman screwed him over (again, not really his MO either).
Not sure about that. I remember the issue for Foreman being "becoming too much like House" in Season 3 (I think). So it makes sense that when House realized that he can't scam Foreman, he'd just collaborate with him into profit for both of them.
On November 15 2011 22:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I thought the ending was pretty funny, but really out-of-sync with Foreman's character. It seems that that ending was strictly put in to get us to laugh (and it made me giggle), but Foreman would not have done that, based on the way he's been such a hard-ass to House lately. Made me a bit confused, especially when Wilson actually didn't care that Foreman screwed him over (again, not really his MO either).
Not sure about that. I remember the issue for Foreman being "becoming too much like House" in Season 3 (I think). So it makes sense that when House realized that he can't scam Foreman, he'd just collaborate with him into profit for both of them.
That's an interesting way of thinking about it. I hadn't considered that ^^ I thought Foreman had since become super-uptight though, as his number one priority was to make sure he didn't become like House, and he didn't want the hospital to look bad because of House either, while Foreman was in charge. But I guess if House behaved himself on this trip to AC (too bad they didn't go during IPL ), it would be fine.
On November 15 2011 22:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I thought the ending was pretty funny, but really out-of-sync with Foreman's character. It seems that that ending was strictly put in to get us to laugh (and it made me giggle), but Foreman would not have done that, based on the way he's been such a hard-ass to House lately. Made me a bit confused, especially when Wilson actually didn't care that Foreman screwed him over (again, not really his MO either).
Not sure about that. I remember the issue for Foreman being "becoming too much like House" in Season 3 (I think). So it makes sense that when House realized that he can't scam Foreman, he'd just collaborate with him into profit for both of them.
That's an interesting way of thinking about it. I hadn't considered that ^^ I thought Foreman had since become super-uptight though, as his number one priority was to make sure he didn't become like House, and he didn't want the hospital to look bad because of House either, while Foreman was in charge. But I guess if House behaved himself on this trip to AC (too bad they didn't go during IPL ), it would be fine.
they constantly said foreman was like house, but they never showed it (atleast not that i noticed). i never got any clues from dialogue or actions that made me think, wow foreman is like house. they just kept on saying it straight to peoples faces that i just went along with it ;/
is anyone else finding the show a bit dull this season? i know its the last one but tbh, now that its ending im kind of glad. i was in love with the show for the first 2 seasons but ive felt that everything since then has been of much lower quality (admittedly still above 90% of tv). maybe its just the predictability of everything making it less exciting but i also feel like i dont connect with any of the newer characters.
chase is the only character that has grown or changed over the years in a believable way. they killed off cameron long before her last episode, when she went blonde her whole character changed for no believable reason, and foreman, similar to what i said above ive never really got a feel for, people keep saying out loud what his character is supposed to be, but ive never seen it. he seems to just flip flop to fit the story.
the conversations which once felt deep and thought out now feel like every character is over analysing everything that anyone ever says, beyond house who has a believable need to analyse, to find puzzles and solve them, now the whole cast is up to it, nothing is ever just said, ever. everything has to have a deep hidden meaning.
the whole cuddy and house getting together thing felt weird and forced. they had known each other for 40 years and she had never decided he would make a good boyfriend, then he has a mental breakdown due to drug abuse and suddenly cuddy wants this to be the father to her child? a woman who has shown mental strength and independence in everything she has done in her life suddenly chucks it all away for a fling with house and gets exactly what she knew she would and then gets upset and dumps him.
the mental hospital opening of season 6(?) felt like a house movie, over the 2 episodes i felt like it completed a nice arc with some believable characters. the prison episode from this season felt like a shallow replication. the characters there had nothing interesting about them and i was never able to attach myself to any of them. it (the mental hospital) would of been a fitting end to the show as a whole
i feel like a show which could of gone down in history as one of the greatest shows of recent times, bringing the sherlock holmes style detective work into the modern era, but has dragged on so long that it will go down as merely 'good' or 'entertaining. its the mark of a great show when it ends and it leaves the fans begging for more, its a shame that after all this time ill be glad that its over ;/
Anyone ever noticed how in every episode, when they're brainstorming the diagnosis, someone will suggest "maybe it's lupus", to which House promptly responds "no, it's not lupus". It's never lupus x-)
On November 16 2011 14:29 greendestiny wrote: Anyone ever noticed how in every episode, when they're brainstorming the diagnosis, someone will suggest "maybe it's lupus", to which House promptly responds "no, it's not lupus". It's never lupus x-)
pretty good episode this week. Question, when they are talking about a brazillian, they mean a brazillian girl right? Was pretty sure, but the grammar was weird around it
On November 22 2011 13:43 Enderbantoo wrote: pretty good episode this week. Question, when they are talking about a brazillian, they mean a brazillian girl right? Was pretty sure, but the grammar was weird around it
No, they meant a brazilian wax job. Meaning the removal of lots of body hair.
On November 29 2011 15:26 FinestHour wrote: Wait i have a question, why did he start seeing the married woman again at the bar? Or did i mis-interpret that?
I'm pretty sure it is a start of something more to come. As he said he wasn't looking for trouble, and was happy with his life at the moment, but now he has decided to start something which undoubtly will end in trouble. I really like all these mini story lines forming throughout the series. It is really giving the show a lot of depth. Great episode too. I laughed so hard with wilson in the trap haha.
And I can confirm that we do shoot Kangaroos out here simply because they are a pest to the farms, they eat all the crops. So they need to be culled, as there are waaay to many of them. Also they are SUPER delicious. I always take Kangaroo steaks (Skippy Steaks) to BBQ's lol.
dammit, i would have stuck that pencil through the barrel myself when i saw that scene. why didn't wilson do it himself!? he should have known he was bs'ing
Foreman met up with the married woman again because he think he needs a change in his life. Remember Tau's line about him needing to go back to the hospital at midnight just to get angry at him? I think it's supposed to strike a nerve that Foreman's life is nothing but the hospital/work.
Wilson didn't test the gun barrel because even though he has already figured out (after all the years being with House) how House thinks or plans, he still isn't up to the level where House is in terms of actually taking action wherein House borders on the extreme, higher that Wilson.
As for Park's "date" with Chase, I think it pretty much sums it up in a way that we know they are not going to end up together. But rather it's a change of perspective on Park's part. She was so uptight about being respected that she failed to realize that her persistence for respect ended up making her unlikeable in certain cases, which was brought up by House. And she finally realizes it because of House. As such, she is now reaching out, although directly only at Chase in Park's own little way. =)
The story line would develop as to create more tension for Adams and maybe she would end up confronting Chase about "what happened? How'd it go? Do you have feelings for her?" And Chase being the "cool doctor" would simply "Jealous? You are aren't you?" I think that pretty much sums it up in how they start being a couple... Or not! hehe!
On November 29 2011 15:26 FinestHour wrote: Wait i have a question, why did he start seeing the married woman again at the bar? Or did i mis-interpret that?
I'm pretty sure it is a start of something more to come. As he said he wasn't looking for trouble, and was happy with his life at the moment, but now he has decided to start something which undoubtly will end in trouble. I really like all these mini story lines forming throughout the series. It is really giving the show a lot of depth. Great episode too. I laughed so hard with wilson in the trap haha.
And I can confirm that we do shoot Kangaroos out here simply because they are a pest to the farms, they eat all the crops. So they need to be culled, as there are waaay to many of them. Also they are SUPER delicious. I always take Kangaroo steaks (Skippy Steaks) to BBQ's lol.
Mmm Kangaroo. Just like a beef steak, except a bit tougher. Still a decent substitute for steak =)
I think its amazing that after so many seasons the House writers can still put together such quality episodes. Don't get me wrong, they have done some garbage over the years, but this season has been fantastic so far (imo).
On November 29 2011 20:22 GiggleFairy wrote:And I can confirm that we do shoot Kangaroos out here simply because they are a pest to the farms, they eat all the crops. So they need to be culled, as there are waaay to many of them. Also they are SUPER delicious. I always take Kangaroo steaks (Skippy Steaks) to BBQ's lol.
Just had the opportunity to watch the first episode after the series' winter break, being a fan of the series, i of course enjoyed it, but had a slight issue with the portrayal of asexuality. + Show Spoiler +
not being genuine with the man having a tumour and the woman being celibate rather than either of them being asexual.
This might add to the belief that some hold, that it isnt a valid sexual oriantation and that there is something wrong with the person instead. Hopefully im just being pedantic on a otherwise good episode.
On January 25 2012 07:59 Artifex wrote: Not wanting to have sex is NOT normal. Its the simple biologial truth.
Personally I think that people that are "asexual" either have psychologial issues, or indeed physical ones.
Physical in that they are wired up differently to most. It's not treatable, but equally it is not damaging. A society entirely of asexuals would probably be perfectly functional, including having children.
On January 25 2012 07:59 Artifex wrote: Not wanting to have sex is NOT normal. Its the simple biologial truth.
Personally I think that people that are "asexual" either have psychologial issues, or indeed physical ones.
Thats the opinion that people really shouldnt draw from the episode, asexual people dont have issues, its a sexual oriantation just like any other. The fact that Wilson's research and opinion on the matter, which is that of the medical community at large is marginalised is just slightly annoying. Asexuality is neither a choice nor something that can be "cured" like a disorder, it has only recently been discovered as a possible sexual oriantation because research into sex is quite rare and personal. Not a choice, not a disorder, and some consider it not normal, does that ring a bell at all to another form of sexuality that people viewed as biologically wrong as it did not result in procreation?
All im saying is that this episode will probably give people the wrong idea about asexuality, and your post demonstrates this. Just think, if on an episode of house, he made a lesbian straight, and insinuated that theres something wrong rather than it being a real sexual oriantation, there would be massive public outrage at that but because asexuality is far rarer and generally unknown it was ok for them to do this, which i thought was offensive.
Ok so anyone watching this episode. I haven't gotten to the end...obv lol. But either Chase is dead or seriously injured b/c of the patient having gone postal on him. So i'm betting the blood and stuff was Chase. And Adams was giving him CPR. If it is that Chase is dead I'll be rather sad.
So refreshing from the redundant "Hey random patient, let's focus only on you and screw up all your tests but save you in the nick of time and that's it." I also love the way they set up the flashback parts ^^
Man, it was only halfway through the episode when I noticed that guy wasn't interviewing chase, and was like, oh shit, did something happen? I would be super super sad if Chase died...
I really love how House is truly self-destructive.
On February 07 2012 11:55 wunsun wrote: How is this season? I stopped since 13 left, and haven't caught up...yet Should I?
No, there's nothing to catch up on. The shows the same as ever, House hasn't changed and the rest of the characters are just the canvas for demonstrating House's personality.
On February 07 2012 13:46 TheMute wrote: Man, it was only halfway through the episode when I noticed that guy wasn't interviewing chase, and was like, oh shit, did something happen? I would be super super sad if Chase died...
I really love how House is truly self-destructive.
That's about the point I was at too when I realized Chase wasn't there. I was like....oh shit no they didn't kill him off....did they?
On February 07 2012 13:46 TheMute wrote: Man, it was only halfway through the episode when I noticed that guy wasn't interviewing chase, and was like, oh shit, did something happen? I would be super super sad if Chase died...
I really love how House is truly self-destructive.
That's about the point I was at too when I realized Chase wasn't there. I was like....oh shit no they didn't kill him off....did they?
LOL exactly the same here. I started panicing, saying to myself, they better not have killed him off. I'm gonna be so pissed off if they did.
On February 08 2012 10:21 YoungModerN wrote: Really really good episode. I thought the flashbacks scenes very nice due to saturated white light effects.
I know House is a jerk but showing no empathy with Chase made me angry with him at some point.
About this. Does he have no empathy, or just do his best to hide it? I'd think he felt bad since he essentially wanted to be punished -- he raged at the black dude for not punishing him, and then went to apologize. I dunno. I can't read people like they do in the show (and wonder if anyone really can).
Great episode. I like the "different" episodes every once in a while rather than the usual patient of the week formula. Unless it's a soap-opera. Fuck that shit.
I remember the last time they did a flashback style episode few seasons back when they were examining the outcome of a patient that died...this weeks was just as good if not better.
beautifully directed episode, brilliantly executed, a refreshing style and a pleasure to watch. I like it when they push things and make it uncomfortable for the audience to watch.
I thought the episode was fantastic. Can't wait to see hwo the rest of this season turns out. So much tension between everyone. I think it's about time for someone to snap
A good, different episode. Though I'm kinda mad at the complete lack of understanding of how the criminal justice system works.
Question Who would investigate a stabbing?
If you answered "a nuerologist" then you too can be a writter for this show. The correct answer is of course the police.
Furthermore, random people don't have the power to revoke people's parole or decide criminal liability. I understand House isn't going to become a police procedural, but the writters should at least do their research if they are going to make this a major plot point.
On February 08 2012 13:29 TKHawkins wrote: A good, different episode. Though I'm kinda mad at the complete lack of understanding of how the criminal justice system works.
Question Who would investigate a stabbing?
If you answered "a nuerologist" then you too can be a writter for this show. The correct answer is of course the police.
Furthermore, random people don't have the power to revoke people's parole or decide criminal liability. I understand House isn't going to become a police procedural, but the writters should at least do their research if they are going to make this a major plot point.
The police wouldn't have gotten involved with House and chase etc. because they already know who stabbed him. The crime aspect of that was already answered. the nuerologist was part of the board for disciplinary hearings or something like that. The reason he handled it and not the police was because they were determining whether or not he should be suspended from the hospital not whether or not he should go to jail. Going to jail was a side effect due to his parole. It wasn't a random person deciding to revoke his parole, it was a head of the board deciding whether or not House should be punished. His parole would have been revoked to due its terms being broken not because some random guy decided to revoke.
The police would have initially been involved but would have been focused more on the patient. House did not stab Chase or do anything illegal, hence why the police weren't investigating him the hospital was.
I agree the police wouldn't have gotten involved because there was no criminal liability to House or the rest of his team (which is ALSO why I thought the set up of the episode was stupid). There would also be no civil liablity because there was an intentional intervening act breaking any proximate cause. There is no reason why the person selected to be a binding arbitartor would have zero understanding of the legal issues behind the incident. What the heck was all this "omg this guy is such a callious jerk?" That has nothing to do with anything.
Parole isn't automatically revoked, even if terms are broken. The decision on whether or not to file a report to revoke would be handled by the department of probation and parole. This guy could file a recommendation, to P&P but he wouldn't have any real authority. Even then, the ultimate decision would lie with the department of corrections.
On February 08 2012 14:05 TKHawkins wrote: I agree the police wouldn't have gotten involved because there was no criminal liability to House or the rest of his team (which is ALSO why I thought the set up of the episode was stupid). There would also be no civil liablity because there was an intentional intervening act breaking any proximate cause. There is no reason why the person selected to be a binding arbitartor would have zero understanding of the legal issues behind the incident. What the heck was all this "omg this guy is such a callious jerk?" That has nothing to do with anything.
Parole isn't automatically revoked, even if terms are broken. The decision on whether or not to file a report to revoke would be handled by the department of probation and parole. This guy could file a recommendation, to P&P but he wouldn't have any real authority. Even then, the ultimate decision would lie with the department of corrections.
Where was it even stated that the neurologist could revoke House's parole? You're arguing a point that was never made.
On February 08 2012 14:05 TKHawkins wrote: I agree the police wouldn't have gotten involved because there was no criminal liability to House or the rest of his team (which is ALSO why I thought the set up of the episode was stupid). There would also be no civil liablity because there was an intentional intervening act breaking any proximate cause. There is no reason why the person selected to be a binding arbitartor would have zero understanding of the legal issues behind the incident. What the heck was all this "omg this guy is such a callious jerk?" That has nothing to do with anything.
Parole isn't automatically revoked, even if terms are broken. The decision on whether or not to file a report to revoke would be handled by the department of probation and parole. This guy could file a recommendation, to P&P but he wouldn't have any real authority. Even then, the ultimate decision would lie with the department of corrections.
Where was it even stated that the neurologist could revoke House's parole? You're arguing a point that was never made.
At the end of the episode where he changes his decision arbitrarily, House shows that he had the "revoke parole" papers in his case ready to be signed. In general, this season revolves around House being forced to play within the "rules" because otherwise the system will revoke his license to practice or whatever which will force him back to jail as is a condition on his parole.
I liked the episode a lot, it was by far the best one this season and in a long time. The end of the "neurologist investigator" was a little weak, but I enjoyed the interplay between Chase and House a ton.
On February 08 2012 14:05 TKHawkins wrote: I agree the police wouldn't have gotten involved because there was no criminal liability to House or the rest of his team (which is ALSO why I thought the set up of the episode was stupid). There would also be no civil liablity because there was an intentional intervening act breaking any proximate cause. There is no reason why the person selected to be a binding arbitartor would have zero understanding of the legal issues behind the incident. What the heck was all this "omg this guy is such a callious jerk?" That has nothing to do with anything.
Parole isn't automatically revoked, even if terms are broken. The decision on whether or not to file a report to revoke would be handled by the department of probation and parole. This guy could file a recommendation, to P&P but he wouldn't have any real authority. Even then, the ultimate decision would lie with the department of corrections.
Where was it even stated that the neurologist could revoke House's parole? You're arguing a point that was never made.
At the end of the episode where he changes his decision arbitrarily, House shows that he had the "revoke parole" papers in his case ready to be signed. In general, this season revolves around House being forced to play within the "rules" because otherwise the system will revoke his license to practice or whatever which will force him back to jail as is a condition on his parole.
I liked the episode a lot, it was by far the best one this season and in a long time. The end of the "neurologist investigator" was a little weak, but I enjoyed the interplay between Chase and House a ton.
He didn't say "revoke parole papers" he just said "parole form" which could mean a ton of things.
On February 08 2012 14:05 TKHawkins wrote: I agree the police wouldn't have gotten involved because there was no criminal liability to House or the rest of his team (which is ALSO why I thought the set up of the episode was stupid). There would also be no civil liablity because there was an intentional intervening act breaking any proximate cause. There is no reason why the person selected to be a binding arbitartor would have zero understanding of the legal issues behind the incident. What the heck was all this "omg this guy is such a callious jerk?" That has nothing to do with anything.
Parole isn't automatically revoked, even if terms are broken. The decision on whether or not to file a report to revoke would be handled by the department of probation and parole. This guy could file a recommendation, to P&P but he wouldn't have any real authority. Even then, the ultimate decision would lie with the department of corrections.
Where was it even stated that the neurologist could revoke House's parole? You're arguing a point that was never made.
At the end of the episode where he changes his decision arbitrarily, House shows that he had the "revoke parole" papers in his case ready to be signed. In general, this season revolves around House being forced to play within the "rules" because otherwise the system will revoke his license to practice or whatever which will force him back to jail as is a condition on his parole.
I liked the episode a lot, it was by far the best one this season and in a long time. The end of the "neurologist investigator" was a little weak, but I enjoyed the interplay between Chase and House a ton.
He didn't say "revoke parole papers" he just said "parole form" which could mean a ton of things.
Re-watched it, he follows it up by saying "You were going to send me back to prison," which I feels clarifies the intention, though whom knows.
I do agree that the concept of an ethics board being used to prosecute a doctor back to prison is a little strange, but then again, that's the premise of this season so we can suspend disbelief.
On February 08 2012 14:05 TKHawkins wrote: I agree the police wouldn't have gotten involved because there was no criminal liability to House or the rest of his team (which is ALSO why I thought the set up of the episode was stupid). There would also be no civil liablity because there was an intentional intervening act breaking any proximate cause. There is no reason why the person selected to be a binding arbitartor would have zero understanding of the legal issues behind the incident. What the heck was all this "omg this guy is such a callious jerk?" That has nothing to do with anything.
Parole isn't automatically revoked, even if terms are broken. The decision on whether or not to file a report to revoke would be handled by the department of probation and parole. This guy could file a recommendation, to P&P but he wouldn't have any real authority. Even then, the ultimate decision would lie with the department of corrections.
Where was it even stated that the neurologist could revoke House's parole? You're arguing a point that was never made.
At the end of the episode where he changes his decision arbitrarily, House shows that he had the "revoke parole" papers in his case ready to be signed. In general, this season revolves around House being forced to play within the "rules" because otherwise the system will revoke his license to practice or whatever which will force him back to jail as is a condition on his parole.
I liked the episode a lot, it was by far the best one this season and in a long time. The end of the "neurologist investigator" was a little weak, but I enjoyed the interplay between Chase and House a ton.
He didn't say "revoke parole papers" he just said "parole form" which could mean a ton of things.
Re-watched it, he follows it up by saying "You were going to send me back to prison," which I feels clarifies the intention, though whom knows.
I do agree that the concept of an ethics board being used to prosecute a doctor back to prison is a little strange, but then again, that's the premise of this season so we can suspend disbelief.
I think the whole "You were going to send me back to prison" was a way of saying Foremans mentor thought House should be punished. Its not like House would say "You were going to blame me so my parole officer would deny my freedom and thus I would end up in jail". Overanalyzing that is going a little far imo.
Anyways, I read up on the coming episodes, and looks like the next episode will also be interesting, and using an uncommon format once again.
happy and sad to hear that even having expected it too happen. glad they aren't going to drag on the series and hopefully the last episode(s) will be really good. on the other hand sad that there wont be anymore house ><
This season have been one of my favorite so far. 8 seasons in with the same repetitive episode plot of 1 case 1 diagnosis and it is still one of the best shows on t.v. House is by far the greatest t.v. character ever created.
A little sad at the news, but it has been coming for a long time. After seasons 1~4 (and a few from 5), the show hasn't been the same or as good. I'm actually relieved that they're wrapping it up instead of dragging it out. Let's hope the ending does justice to one of the best TV characters of the 21st century.
My brother and I have been discussing how the final episode should go, it should either be house dying of an OD just as he disconnects from his "friends" or my favorite suggestion; Wilson actually kills him and then at the end turns around and says "Wilson M.D." AND THEN BLACK SCREEN.
On February 11 2012 10:39 Sterlymobile wrote: My brother and I have been discussing how the final episode should go, it should either be house dying of an OD just as he disconnects from his "friends" or my favorite suggestion; Wilson actually kills him and then at the end turns around and says "Wilson M.D." AND THEN BLACK SCREEN.
Nah man.. OD is to obvious... Just as he has his epiphany figuring out what is wrong with his patient the entire hospital is going to collapse cut to black/roll credits GG no RE and wait for the cries of very, very angry fans!
On February 11 2012 13:02 Rebornlife wrote: You guys all realize that House isin't an "original" character. He's based off of Sherlock Holmes. Dr.Wilson is Dr.Watson....
I haven't watched House Season 8; I was an avid fan of the first 4 or so seasons. Is it worthwhile for me to watch the last season? From what I've read on here, short answer is no, but can I get some of your opinions?
On February 11 2012 20:34 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: I haven't watched House Season 8; I was an avid fan of the first 4 or so seasons. Is it worthwhile for me to watch the last season? From what I've read on here, short answer is no, but can I get some of your opinions?
It's not very good, I'd rather watch the seasons in between 4 and 8, there are some decent ones in there. In general the show should've been ended a couple of seasons ago. I'm at the point where I just hope they don't completely screw up the ending.
On February 11 2012 20:34 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: I haven't watched House Season 8; I was an avid fan of the first 4 or so seasons. Is it worthwhile for me to watch the last season? From what I've read on here, short answer is no, but can I get some of your opinions?
Are you just to lazy to look at those 12 pages?
I dont like this season as much as those people here do but its a OK season wich is more like the first 3-4 seasons...
On February 11 2012 20:34 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: I haven't watched House Season 8; I was an avid fan of the first 4 or so seasons. Is it worthwhile for me to watch the last season? From what I've read on here, short answer is no, but can I get some of your opinions?
Are you just to lazy to look at those 12 pages?
I dont like this season as much as those people here do but its a OK season wich is more like the first 3-4 seasons...
so exacly what you searching for...
All I've read are, "Oh this episode is ok, this episode's good, this episode is ok, this one's bad..." I don't really want an episode by episode count, I just want an overall, "Yes this season is worth watching." or "No, this season is not worth watching." That's all.
On February 11 2012 20:34 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: I haven't watched House Season 8; I was an avid fan of the first 4 or so seasons. Is it worthwhile for me to watch the last season? From what I've read on here, short answer is no, but can I get some of your opinions?
Are you just to lazy to look at those 12 pages?
I dont like this season as much as those people here do but its a OK season wich is more like the first 3-4 seasons...
so exacly what you searching for...
All I've read are, "Oh this episode is ok, this episode's good, this episode is ok, this one's bad..." I don't really want an episode by episode count, I just want an overall, "Yes this season is worth watching." or "No, this season is not worth watching." That's all.
I would recommend this season, I watched from like 1st to 5th and a half, then skipped like a year or 2 and just started watching again. And so far I'm really liking it. Maybe because I took a break from it, who knows.
Although it has obviously gone down hill, it's still much better than most of the junk aired these days. I'm even kinda sad that they're quitting, but it's probably for the best.
There just isn't a way to recover from the finale of season 7. Not sure why anyone in their creative team would agree on that ridiculous plot, unless they all already know ahead of time that S8 will be the last.
I liked this episode and once the Ben Howard song came on at the end I completely fell in love with it. Anything with Ben Howard in it deserves love : ) It was Promise by, you guessed it, Ben Howard if anyone is interested.
Other than that beautiful song, though, I liked how the focused the episode on Chase and his struggles instead of House. Great episode, in my opinion. Will miss this show...
Really really liked this episode. Not as emotional/intense as Wilson's Head/Heart but similar I thought. Funny how after 8 seasons, we finally get an episode that focuses on Chase. Just about every other character has had their chance.
On February 14 2012 12:01 Aldehyde wrote: I liked this episode and once the Ben Howard song came on at the end I completely fell in love with it. Anything with Ben Howard in it deserves love : ) It was Promise by, you guessed it, Ben Howard if anyone is interested.
Other than that beautiful song, though, I liked how the focused the episode on Chase and his struggles instead of House. Great episode, in my opinion. Will miss this show...
Agree. This was a really strong episode. The choice in music and the acting were really something. I've never seen such a genuine look that so vividly represented such complex emotions as on the look of Chase's face at the end when the nun held his hand.
On February 11 2012 13:02 Rebornlife wrote: You guys all realize that House isin't an "original" character. He's based off of Sherlock Holmes. Dr.Wilson is Dr.Watson....
I don't really think the show has gone downhill much. Most shows that use the formulatic approach simply feel worn out after like 4-5 seasons, there are few exceptions. It's extermely difficult to stay fresh and to continue to be original after 100 episodes. I think this is why House went for all new characters halfway through the series to try and keep it fresh. However it was definitely a risk that didn't quite pay off because it alienated fans because their favorite characters saw significantly less screen time.
The freshness factor is exactly why people think the special episodes like when House is in rehab or in jail are so great. I agree, though, they are great, and the writing is probably at a higher level, but it's easier to write something fresh when you aren't constrained to the exact same formula.
On February 17 2012 13:23 Bairemuth wrote: I don't really think the show has gone downhill much. Most shows that use the formulatic approach simply feel worn out after like 4-5 seasons, there are few exceptions. It's extermely difficult to stay fresh and to continue to be original after 100 episodes. I think this is why House went for all new characters halfway through the series to try and keep it fresh. However it was definitely a risk that didn't quite pay off because it alienated fans because their favorite characters saw significantly less screen time.
The freshness factor is exactly why people think the special episodes like when House is in rehab or in jail are so great. I agree, though, they are great, and the writing is probably at a higher level, but it's easier to write something fresh when you aren't constrained to the exact same formula.
While the overal formula hasn't changed, there's been a huge shift in balance: the first three seasons focussed a lot more on the diseases and less on House and his relations with the rest of the hospital. This gave the show its second breath but after season six House was pretty much completely fleshed out as a character, making his relationship with Cuddy incredibly predictable (it was bound to end up a train wreck). Hell, after the finales of seasons four to six, the one of season seven felt incredibly underwhelming.
I think this is why House went for all new characters halfway through the series to try and keep it fresh. .
I think the new cast members have more to do with actor's salaries and the cost to produce the show. Laurie is the highest paid actor on TV, and Wilson is such a popular character he isn't going anywhere. I'm pretty sure that both Cameron and Cuddy were cut because they wanted raises and the show just decided they weren't worth it.
On February 29 2012 02:17 Taku wrote: New house was hilarious, and with character development! + Show Spoiler +
lmao@how he just whipped it out right there in the middle of the restaurant
I literally did a spit take when I saw Billy Connolly in the latest episode. He's one of my favorite comedians by far, and I think he did a great job with his guest appearance. Also, his accent is awesome as hell.
On February 17 2012 13:23 Bairemuth wrote: I don't really think the show has gone downhill much. Most shows that use the formulatic approach simply feel worn out after like 4-5 seasons, there are few exceptions. It's extermely difficult to stay fresh and to continue to be original after 100 episodes. I think this is why House went for all new characters halfway through the series to try and keep it fresh. However it was definitely a risk that didn't quite pay off because it alienated fans because their favorite characters saw significantly less screen time.
The freshness factor is exactly why people think the special episodes like when House is in rehab or in jail are so great. I agree, though, they are great, and the writing is probably at a higher level, but it's easier to write something fresh when you aren't constrained to the exact same formula.
I agree...people say the show fell off etc. but I think I still think its pretty solid. After all its basically a procedural show in its 8th fkn season and it still provides nice entertainment. Most shows can't get past a few seasons before becoming totally unwatchable. The fact that its been around so long and I still try to catch every episode I can speaks for itself.
On February 17 2012 13:23 Bairemuth wrote: I don't really think the show has gone downhill much. Most shows that use the formulatic approach simply feel worn out after like 4-5 seasons, there are few exceptions. It's extermely difficult to stay fresh and to continue to be original after 100 episodes. I think this is why House went for all new characters halfway through the series to try and keep it fresh. However it was definitely a risk that didn't quite pay off because it alienated fans because their favorite characters saw significantly less screen time.
The freshness factor is exactly why people think the special episodes like when House is in rehab or in jail are so great. I agree, though, they are great, and the writing is probably at a higher level, but it's easier to write something fresh when you aren't constrained to the exact same formula.
While the overal formula hasn't changed, there's been a huge shift in balance: the first three seasons focussed a lot more on the diseases and less on House and his relations with the rest of the hospital. This gave the show its second breath but after season six House was pretty much completely fleshed out as a character, making his relationship with Cuddy incredibly predictable (it was bound to end up a train wreck). Hell, after the finales of seasons four to six, the one of season seven felt incredibly underwhelming.
House can always undergo new evolutions and changes if the writers are strong enough to make it believable. However, House's character development has never been a weakness to the show, in my opinion. My issue is the formulatic nature of the show which causes extreme predictability, and ultimately, staleness. Every episode is basically the same...the sequence of an episode is as follows: Have a patient with some ridiculously puzzling health issue; gather the team to come up with possible treatments based on various clues; pick the treatment that offers the most diagnostic benefit; administer the treatment whilst likely breaking rules; treatment is intitially successful, then utterly fails; break into patient's house to find important clues; use clues gathered from failed treatment and patient's house to establish new treatments; have treatments fail and develop new ones until 5/6ths of the episode is complete; House admits defeat, the patient nears death or has an incurable disease; House has some unrelated conversation with a random person when something completely random clicks and then House comes up with the Golden Treatment that cures the patient 95% of the time. All the while, House plays games with his co-workers, especially Wilson. The best episodes are when House has to face his shortcommings and make hard decisions (often choosing the easy rather than the right).
I think this is why House went for all new characters halfway through the series to try and keep it fresh. .
I think the new cast members have more to do with actor's salaries and the cost to produce the show. Laurie is the highest paid actor on TV, and Wilson is such a popular character he isn't going anywhere. I'm pretty sure that both Cameron and Cuddy were cut because they wanted raises and the show just decided they weren't worth it.
For Cuddy, I think you are right, but I was talking about halfway through the series (season 4). They introduced new leads, but kept around the old leads in supporting roles. If it was truly about salaries at this point, then I think the old leads would have been stripped completely, but they were not. Also, they eventually came back to full time anyways, so I doubt it had anything to do with salary. As for Cameron, well they wrote her off in season 6, so again, didn't really apply to my statement.
Fox delayed this week's episode for cars driving in circles for hours or something. Anyways the episode aired in Canada and other parts of the world :D
house passes the mantel on to chase, because he saw through all the smoke screens and proved himself to be just as or nearly as perceptive as house? i wonder if they will take this all the way or if its just a red herring
I love how they keep teasing at some cliche deus ex machina sort of emotional revelation. We all know the series is coming to a close soon and needs some build up to something huge. I worry that its going to be something too contrived or out of the blue and each episode seems to be exactly that until it's revealed that House is just fucking with someone. I really hope this is what the writers mean to do, and it's not just me reading too much into it.
On April 19 2012 11:47 Jonoman92 wrote: I figured House was behind the kid from the start, especially since Beth and Wilson mysteriously never saw each other face to face... seemed odd.
And then Wilson and House are all chummy again after that making pizza? Wilson needs a back bone for real...
Haha it'll never happen.
House throwing away that green card application letter at the end of the episode made me shake my head and smirk though. Figures. That's so... House.
Ok just finished watching the episode. A few things I'd like to throw out there.
1. An ONCOLOGIST.....with cancer....seem like a stupid plot to anyone else? 2. Super sad Wilson has cancer 3. What if it's the most epic troll of Wilson's life and he really doesn't have cancer? For years House has treated him like shit and been an ass to him. Constantly pranking him and Wilson has never retaliated. What if this is his final retaliation? 4. Why are the writers pushing Chase and Park together? Is it cause they thought we'd all be annoyed if they pushed Chase towards the new pretty girl in Adams? 5. Think Dominica comes back to House in his time of need to "help" him deal with Wilson's cancer? Assuming Wilson really does have cancer. 6. IF num 5 happens then I think it ends with House and Dominica together as husband and wife and happy, Wilson living. That's the only way I can see them ending it without people freaking out. I mean come on if they end it with Wilson dead that'd be fucked up. Hasn't the guy suffered enough? I mean I still get choked up about what happened with Amber when he was SOOOOO happy for once. Not to mention he's House's friend ffs. That's like a level of Hell or something.
On April 24 2012 16:24 DoomsVille wrote: Most logical ending would be wilson dying and making house re-evaluate his life and stop being so miserable.
I don't really see any other way for the series to end.
As much as I want Wilson to live, I have to agree with this. We even found out recently that the title of the final episode is "Everybody Dies." + Show Spoiler [Source] +
I'm not holding my breath for a happy ending. House screwing up with Dominique was foreseeable, not sure about Wilsons cancer though. Chances are he'll die. Personally I'd like a "dark" ending better than some Hollywood bs.
I didn't like the medical case this episode- the series has always been an advocate of reason over superstition and a couple of episodes before the end they cop out? Meh. Also House would never let this go until he figured out what exactly "cured" the kid there. Pretty weak story. Loved the Chase and Park part though
On April 24 2012 16:34 Monsen wrote: I'm not holding my breath for a happy ending. House screwing up with Dominique was foreseeable, not sure about Wilsons cancer though. Chances are he'll die. Personally I'd like a "dark" ending better than some Hollywood bs.
I didn't like the medical case this episode- the series has always been an advocate of reason over superstition and a couple of episodes before the end they cop out? Meh. Also House would never let this go until he figured out what exactly "cured" the kid there. Pretty weak story. Loved the Chase and Park part though
House already knew what was wrong with the patient. No reason to investigate further. I do agree though. Bit of a cop-out. Kind of annoying.
soooooooo i've been a fan of house from the beginning, watched every episode upon release and such. however i stopped smoking and after becoming sober i stopped watching around the beginning of season 8. the episodes just seemed incredibly boring, in part from not being high, and in part from them just not being up to par with the rest of the series. (imo house has gotten worse every season but i'm too much of a hugh laurie fan to stop watching)
sooooo basically i want to know if season 8 has improved. is it worth forcing myself through the early/mid part of the season?
On April 24 2012 18:21 HelpMeInhale wrote: Stopped wathing whne Park and Chase kissed. Am I the only one annoyed at this BS. Really can you see Park and Chase working IRL? This is not realistic at all imo.
On April 24 2012 16:34 Monsen wrote: I'm not holding my breath for a happy ending. House screwing up with Dominique was foreseeable, not sure about Wilsons cancer though. Chances are he'll die. Personally I'd like a "dark" ending better than some Hollywood bs.
I didn't like the medical case this episode- the series has always been an advocate of reason over superstition and a couple of episodes before the end they cop out? Meh. Also House would never let this go until he figured out what exactly "cured" the kid there. Pretty weak story. Loved the Chase and Park part though
So far each finale had a pretty bad ending. I don't see this series ending on a happy note. It wouldn't be fitting. Wilson dying would mean House loses the only friend he's got left. Wouldn't be surprised if House ends up killing himself or ends up in a psychiatric hospital indefinitely.
I'm not holding my breath for a happy ending. House screwing up with Dominique was foreseeable, not sure about Wilsons cancer though. Chances are he'll die. Personally I'd like a "dark" ending better than some Hollywood bs.
I didn't like the medical case this episode- the series has always been an advocate of reason over superstition and a couple of episodes before the end they cop out? Meh. Also House would never let this go until he figured out what exactly "cured" the kid there. Pretty weak story. Loved the Chase and Park part though
So far each finale had a pretty bad ending. I don't see this series ending on a happy note. It wouldn't be fitting. Wilson dying would mean House loses the only friend he's got left. Wouldn't be surprised if House ends up killing himself or ends up in a psychiatric hospital indefinitely.
By the way, please use spoiler tags.
You probably shouldn't quote someone you think should be using spoiler tags and then not spoiler them yourself.
I have no idea how they plan on ending the show, can't really see a situation where House doesn't end up dying and can't imagine him dying without him killing himself.
On April 24 2012 18:12 thrawn2112 wrote: soooooooo i've been a fan of house from the beginning, watched every episode upon release and such. however i stopped smoking and after becoming sober i stopped watching around the beginning of season 8. the episodes just seemed incredibly boring, in part from not being high, and in part from them just not being up to par with the rest of the series. (imo house has gotten worse every season but i'm too much of a hugh laurie fan to stop watching)
sooooo basically i want to know if season 8 has improved. is it worth forcing myself through the early/mid part of the season?
House started going downhill somewhere around season 5 with the introduction of new members? It hasn't really improved since than... At least Adams is hot though >.>
well this episode was good. for people that think it was not that good they should be happy they saw an epic episode 17. I think e17 was the best ever i 've watched.
I'm a big fan of season 8 so far. I was afraid the show was going to wither away like so many other once decent shows, but its suprisingly good, especially compared to s7. They somehow manage to stay relevant and come up with interesting, rather deep storylines (e17 being the obvious example).
I'm going to miss House so much, especially when you compare it to all the TV shows that don't even attempt to challenge viewers in the slightest.
It really is sad that House didn't go into the room and show what happened since the theory that the grandfather did it to trick his daughter-in-law and the doctors seems pretty thin.
1) As this is my first post in this thread, I gotta say: Season 8 is my second favorite season of House!!! Second only to season 4
2) This week's episode was sooooooooo depressing =( I <3 Dominika so much
EDIT: 2.5) Why they never explain kid floating? Meh, oh well, didn't care too much for this plot anyhow. I'd rather just reread Spirit Catches You
3) With the Dominika/Wilson double whammy, the series has to be readying for a tragedy. It makes sense - with the emotional immaturity he's shown in the past few seasons (was it always this bad?), there was no way House was going to be headed toward a happy ending unless he had a girl like Dominika to set him straight. And he just fucked that up.
4) *spoilers, sort of* The wiki entry for the final episode lists 13 and Amber and possibly Cutner. What does that gotta mean? House going crazy again! I hope it's as fun (well, probably depressing... but I hope it's kinda fun) as the previous hallucinatory episodes we've had over the course of the series
On April 25 2012 17:56 TheRealPaciFist wrote: 1) As this is my first post in this thread, I gotta say: Season 8 is my second favorite season of House!!! Second only to season 4
2) This week's episode was sooooooooo depressing =( I <3 Dominika so much
EDIT: 2.5) Why they never explain kid floating? Meh, oh well, didn't care too much for this plot anyhow. I'd rather just reread Spirit Catches You
3) With the Dominika/Wilson double whammy, the series has to be readying for a tragedy. It makes sense - with the emotional immaturity he's shown in the past few seasons (was it always this bad?), there was no way House was going to be headed toward a happy ending unless he had a girl like Dominika to set him straight. And he just fucked that up.
4) *spoilers, sort of* The wiki entry for the final episode lists 13 and Amber and possibly Cutner. What does that gotta mean? House going crazy again! I hope it's as fun (well, probably depressing... but I hope it's kinda fun) as the previous hallucinatory episodes we've had over the course of the series
Next ep will be the first (and only) directed by Hugh Laurie, will be interesting to see his directing skills :D pretty sure he'll be awesome at it, as with everything he does
On May 01 2012 00:56 Pulimuli wrote: Next ep will be the first (and only) directed by Hugh Laurie, will be interesting to see his directing skills :D pretty sure he'll be awesome at it, as with everything he does
I can't wait :D And I completely agree High expectations ^^
Some people are actually predicting a happy ending for House? O.o No chance in hell, I'd feel hugely ripped off to be honest. Not that I want bad things to happen to house, but lets be serious here people. The entire series has been building up to him going out in a bad way with a bang.
Spoilering in case people haven't watched last week yet. Wilson ends up needing a transplant due to cancer. House finds a way to off himself and Wilson gets to use his organ for a transplant. Gives a tragedy ending mixed with House pretty much making up for being an ass of a friend so kind of 'happy'.
Edit: Also pumped to see Hugh directing tonights episode!!!
Seeing House actually care for someone to the level that he cared for Wilson... it was really quite touching. When he lied about having plenty of painkillers for himself (and took a swig of alcohol so that Wilson would have enough painkillers to make it through the operation), I almost lost it.
Seeing House actually care for someone to the level that he cared for Wilson... it was really quite touching. When he lied about having plenty of painkillers for himself (and took a swig of alcohol so that Wilson would have enough painkillers to make it through the operation), I almost lost it.
On May 01 2012 00:56 Pulimuli wrote: Next ep will be the first (and only) directed by Hugh Laurie, will be interesting to see his directing skills :D pretty sure he'll be awesome at it, as with everything he does
On May 01 2012 11:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: House tonight was amazing!
Seeing House actually care for someone to the level that he cared for Wilson... it was really quite touching. When he lied about having plenty of painkillers for himself (and took a swig of alcohol so that Wilson would have enough painkillers to make it through the operation), I almost lost it.
And that ending... I laughed so hard
Hugh Laurie did a fantastic job directing ^^
Pretty much this. It has been a while since I've actually felt something emotional when watching House. Seeing him sacrifice even after what Wilson said(Which was up until that point 100% true!) was incredible. That mixed with the ending, I actually laughed so hard and felt really happy. Fucking amazing episode.
Edit: My only 'problem' with this episode was, House wasn't their to call the mom a retard. I was really hoping for Wilson to get better, house show up belittle his team and call out the mom for being dumb and using her daughter as a guinea pig + not telling them about it. Then solve the case like a boss. But meh, in the words of the great philosopher Mick Jagger.... You can't always get what you want!
"Most ridiculously aggressive chemo ever" should have had some more effects than what Wilson displayed (a cold). At least loss of hair etc. but yeah, the ending was hilarious
Maybe he'll regress and then die, that might be a bit more dramatic.
I'm really sad that this is the last season.
I could totally see that happening (as sad as that would be). It hurt so much when Wilson made that comment on the couch (although sick and not thinking clearly, he was still being brutally honest) about how he felt he didn't deserve to get cancer but how someone with House's mean and reckless personality could justify receiving such a disease (although in the upcoming trailer, apparently Wilson starts to throw all caution to the wind and turn into a fool). I could definitely see Wilson end up dying anyway (either to the disease or to something stupid like a car crash- how terrible would that be, to go through all this cancer treatment just to die some other way?), and then House would just crumble mentally.
On May 01 2012 21:21 Doraemon wrote: can't quite remember, but was it wilson that made the decision to force the operation on house's leg or was it house's ex-wive?
Wife at the time. After that they eventually divorced.
On May 01 2012 21:21 Doraemon wrote: can't quite remember, but was it wilson that made the decision to force the operation on house's leg or was it house's ex-wive?
Which is what House should have forced on Wilson if he really cared about him. Instead we are left with some kind of unsatisfying compromise, which is something House wouldn't do. The more I think about this episode the more it annoys me: the entire show was about House doing what he thought was right, no matter the consequences. The right choice for House would have been either tricking or forcing Wilson to accept the best available medical treatment with the highest chances of survival and deal with the fall-out later.
On May 01 2012 21:21 Doraemon wrote: can't quite remember, but was it wilson that made the decision to force the operation on house's leg or was it house's ex-wive?
Which is what House should have forced on Wilson if he really cared about him. Instead we are left with some kind of unsatisfying compromise, which is something House wouldn't do. The more I think about this episode the more it annoys me: the entire show was about House doing what he thought was right, no matter the consequences. The right choice for House would have been either tricking or forcing Wilson to accept the best available medical treatment with the highest chances of survival and deal with the fall-out later.
That's true, but ever since he lost Cuddy he's been changing a little bit, in small subtle attempts to keep actual relationships (no matter how illogical it ended up being). He did that to Dominica and now he's doing that to Wilson- two of the very few people that really got to him emotionally.
If this were one of the first few seasons, it would make no sense. However, I think it's slightly more consistent with what's going on now.
On May 01 2012 21:21 Doraemon wrote: can't quite remember, but was it wilson that made the decision to force the operation on house's leg or was it house's ex-wive?
Which is what House should have forced on Wilson if he really cared about him. Instead we are left with some kind of unsatisfying compromise, which is something House wouldn't do. The more I think about this episode the more it annoys me: the entire show was about House doing what he thought was right, no matter the consequences. The right choice for House would have been either tricking or forcing Wilson to accept the best available medical treatment with the highest chances of survival and deal with the fall-out later.
Your argument is that because House forces that upon his random patients he doesn't give a fuck about he'd do it to the one guy apart from himself he actually gives a shit about? I think you kind of missed the point here. There's an episode in the first series (I think?) called three stories. Watch it again.
On May 01 2012 21:21 Doraemon wrote: can't quite remember, but was it wilson that made the decision to force the operation on house's leg or was it house's ex-wive?
Which is what House should have forced on Wilson if he really cared about him. Instead we are left with some kind of unsatisfying compromise, which is something House wouldn't do. The more I think about this episode the more it annoys me: the entire show was about House doing what he thought was right, no matter the consequences. The right choice for House would have been either tricking or forcing Wilson to accept the best available medical treatment with the highest chances of survival and deal with the fall-out later.
Your argument is that because House forces that upon his random patients he doesn't give a fuck about he'd do it to the one guy apart from himself he actually gives a shit about? I think you kind of missed the point here.
I think that's a good point, and it was somewhat mirrored in the mother/ doctor last night, when she lost all objectivity while treating her daughter. House is perfectly capable of remaining impartial (as is Wilson), but then when it comes down to treating a close friend (or yourself), it's apparently hard to practice what you preach. Emotions cloud your judgment.
On May 01 2012 21:21 Doraemon wrote: can't quite remember, but was it wilson that made the decision to force the operation on house's leg or was it house's ex-wive?
Which is what House should have forced on Wilson if he really cared about him. Instead we are left with some kind of unsatisfying compromise, which is something House wouldn't do. The more I think about this episode the more it annoys me: the entire show was about House doing what he thought was right, no matter the consequences. The right choice for House would have been either tricking or forcing Wilson to accept the best available medical treatment with the highest chances of survival and deal with the fall-out later.
Your argument is that because House forces that upon his random patients he doesn't give a fuck about he'd do it to the one guy apart from himself he actually gives a shit about? I think you kind of missed the point here. There's an episode in the first series (I think?) called three stories. Watch it again.
My argument is that the one thing that House wants to be above all else is completely rational, which is what allows him to be what he is. House has always chosen being a more rational person over emotional attachments and becoming a 'better' person, and one of the main themes of the show is that people don't change. They might want to, but they don't.
Three stories (if I remember it correctly) is the episode where they explain how House lost his leg, which I remember as a story on how sick people are capable of making completely insane decisions when it comes to their own health, even if they're trained medical professionals. I think even House admits at some point in that specific episode that Stacy made the correct decision; which is to trick House, against his will, into the most promising treatment. She knows she risks her relationship with House by doing it, but still does it. House on the other hand is suddenly all-caring about his relationship with Wilson, unwilling to risk it even for the benefit of Wilson. This while he regularly risks his entire relationship with Wilson for much more trivial things.
It didn't strike me as the option House would choose, but I kind of find myself rooting against a happy ending. I don't want House to end as a reform story, I want it to end with the same manipulative asshole that gets what he wants because he's right.
...she said. Any way you want it. That's the way you need it. Any way you want it. She said, Any way you want it. That's the way you need it. Any way you want it ...
On May 02 2012 12:15 turdburgler wrote: amazing episode, just like all the ones directed by hugh laurie are.
This was his first as a director.
not true, I believe he directed the one where the hospital was locked down the last time cameron was on the show and hooked up with chase after finalizing their divorce
On May 01 2012 21:21 Doraemon wrote: can't quite remember, but was it wilson that made the decision to force the operation on house's leg or was it house's ex-wive?
Which is what House should have forced on Wilson if he really cared about him. Instead we are left with some kind of unsatisfying compromise, which is something House wouldn't do. The more I think about this episode the more it annoys me: the entire show was about House doing what he thought was right, no matter the consequences. The right choice for House would have been either tricking or forcing Wilson to accept the best available medical treatment with the highest chances of survival and deal with the fall-out later.
Your argument is that because House forces that upon his random patients he doesn't give a fuck about he'd do it to the one guy apart from himself he actually gives a shit about? I think you kind of missed the point here. There's an episode in the first series (I think?) called three stories. Watch it again.
My argument is that the one thing that House wants to be above all else is completely rational, which is what allows him to be what he is. House has always chosen being a more rational person over emotional attachments and becoming a 'better' person, and one of the main themes of the show is that people don't change. They might want to, but they don't.
Three stories (if I remember it correctly) is the episode where they explain how House lost his leg, which I remember as a story on how sick people are capable of making completely insane decisions when it comes to their own health, even if they're trained medical professionals. I think even House admits at some point in that specific episode that Stacy made the correct decision; which is to trick House, against his will, into the most promising treatment. She knows she risks her relationship with House by doing it, but still does it. House on the other hand is suddenly all-caring about his relationship with Wilson, unwilling to risk it even for the benefit of Wilson. This while he regularly risks his entire relationship with Wilson for much more trivial things.
It didn't strike me as the option House would choose, but I kind of find myself rooting against a happy ending. I don't want House to end as a reform story, I want it to end with the same manipulative asshole that gets what he wants because he's right.
The only patient House has ever allowed to make shitty decisions based upon emotion is himself with his leg. With every other patient he's forced them to do what he knew was best because he didn't care what they wanted, only in winning by curing them. In his mind if they were able to get what they wanted then it was because he didn't try hard enough to convince them or trick them into getting what he knew they needed, ensuring they got the treatment was as much a part of the game as working out what treatment they needed. If he couldn't work out what they had, that was him failing as a doctor. If he could work it out but couldn't make them take it, that was still him failing as a doctor. His only aim was to treat them, not to help them. With Wilson he didn't play the game, he gave Wilson's wishes the same respect he gave his own in the first season. There is continuity there.
House breaking the mold of "always doing whats best for the patient" is less surprising to me than breaking the mold of "always do whats best for House" in allowing himself to potentially lose his only friend by continuing with the treatment that Wilson wanted.
Chase has left the team, Wilson is officially a pussy for life, and judging by the look of horror on House's face as the episode ended, Wilson's going to die. Thirteen comes back next episode though! ♥
Wow that was an amazing episode, really solid acting performances from Wilson and House. Part of me feels sad that Chase is leaving but it's for the best, he definitely "graduated" from working under House.
On May 08 2012 16:19 jigga wrote: Wow that was an amazing episode, really solid acting performances from Wilson and House. Part of me feels sad that Chase is leaving but it's for the best, he definitely "graduated" from working under House.
Does not make much of a difference that he left this episode though considering there is only two left. Can't believe it's been eight years since the first season kicked off, will miss this series a lot. House is one of the most interesting characters ever created.
On May 08 2012 16:19 jigga wrote: Wow that was an amazing episode, really solid acting performances from Wilson and House. Part of me feels sad that Chase is leaving but it's for the best, he definitely "graduated" from working under House.
Does not make much of a difference that he left this episode though considering there is only two left. Can't believe it's been eight years since the first season kicked off, will miss this series a lot. House is one of the most interesting characters ever created.
It matters because apparently Cameron is appearing in the finale and Chase won't be there T__T (chameron4lyfe)
Sigh. I don't know if there'll ever be anything to fill the gaping hole in my heart once House ends. GoT is doing a decent job, but House is just irreplaceable ;;
The previous house seasons grew ever so more stale and boring, up to a part where i didn't really watch it anymore. Can't actually remember if i watched them (s5 and 6) or if i just skipped back to 7. But this last one is living up to what the show was at its beginning, which makes me sad and happy at the same time. Sad that i won't get more of that narcicisstic asshole, but also happy since it wont just be another show that ran for way too long and had a shitty last seasons.
I just hope they don't botch the ending completely, but so far they are on the right track with this season.
Also Chase leaving? what when? Did i miss something this episode? I watched it over the course of several hours so migt've missed out on some context, can anyone elaborate?
As long as Hugh Laurie doesn't stop doing stuff, I'm fine with the series ending. I've always felt, that all the characters in this show are irrelevant and can easily be replaced without the show suffering from it (except House himself of course). And we can see it throughout the whole series. Characters disappear, reappear but the show does not suffer from it.
But now after 8 seasons, I even feel like Hugh Laurie himself is the most important part. I couldn't imagine any other actor being that awesome in this role. I first saw him in Jeeves and Wooster and Black Adder seemingly a thousand years ago. What an awesome actor.
On May 02 2012 12:15 turdburgler wrote: amazing episode, just like all the ones directed by hugh laurie are.
This was his first as a director.
not true, I believe he directed the one where the hospital was locked down the last time cameron was on the show and hooked up with chase after finalizing their divorce
They said it was his first as a director themselves... Laurie did work behind the camera for the show before, but not as a director.
On May 02 2012 12:15 turdburgler wrote: amazing episode, just like all the ones directed by hugh laurie are.
This was his first as a director.
not true, I believe he directed the one where the hospital was locked down the last time cameron was on the show and hooked up with chase after finalizing their divorce
They said it was his first as a director themselves... Laurie did work behind the camera for the show before, but not as a director.
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This show is clearly heading for one hell of a finale. Seasons six and seven weren't all that but season 8 being the last season seems to have rekindled the writer's inspiration.
I'm actually sad that the show is ending. It's been a part of my life for the last four or five years, and easily the best television I've ever seen. I felt the same way when I turned the last page of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It's that annoying sense of finality.
On May 09 2012 05:58 maartendq wrote: This show is clearly heading for one hell of a finale. Seasons six and seven weren't all that but season 8 being the last season seems to have rekindled the writer's inspiration.
I'm actually sad that the show is ending. It's been a part of my life for the last four or five years, and easily the best television I've ever seen. I felt the same way when I turned the last page of Harry Potter and the Deathly Gallows. It's that annoying sense of finality.
* Deathly Hallows*
Also on topic, just wait for the Chase M.D. spin off! XD
On May 08 2012 16:19 jigga wrote: Wow that was an amazing episode, really solid acting performances from Wilson and House. Part of me feels sad that Chase is leaving but it's for the best, he definitely "graduated" from working under House.
Does not make much of a difference that he left this episode though considering there is only two left. Can't believe it's been eight years since the first season kicked off, will miss this series a lot. House is one of the most interesting characters ever created.
It matters because apparently Cameron is appearing in the finale and Chase won't be there T__T (chameron4lyfe)
Sigh. I don't know if there'll ever be anything to fill the gaping hole in my heart once House ends. GoT is doing a decent job, but House is just irreplaceable ;;
Wrong. That was Thirteen in the trailer, not Cameron.
On May 09 2012 00:38 Kuni wrote: As long as Hugh Laurie doesn't stop doing stuff, I'm fine with the series ending. I've always felt, that all the characters in this show are irrelevant and can easily be replaced without the show suffering from it (except House himself of course). And we can see it throughout the whole series. Characters disappear, reappear but the show does not suffer from it.
But now after 8 seasons, I even feel like Hugh Laurie himself is the most important part. I couldn't imagine any other actor being that awesome in this role. I first saw him in Jeeves and Wooster and Black Adder seemingly a thousand years ago. What an awesome actor.
I recall reading that he plans to focus on music or something and not acting. But who knows, I have no source and could be completely wrong
On May 08 2012 16:19 jigga wrote: Wow that was an amazing episode, really solid acting performances from Wilson and House. Part of me feels sad that Chase is leaving but it's for the best, he definitely "graduated" from working under House.
Does not make much of a difference that he left this episode though considering there is only two left. Can't believe it's been eight years since the first season kicked off, will miss this series a lot. House is one of the most interesting characters ever created.
It matters because apparently Cameron is appearing in the finale and Chase won't be there T__T (chameron4lyfe)
Sigh. I don't know if there'll ever be anything to fill the gaping hole in my heart once House ends. GoT is doing a decent job, but House is just irreplaceable ;;
Wrong. That was Thirteen in the trailer, not Cameron.
the last 2 episodes of house have been so good compared to the majority in the last season or 3. i still think the first 2 seasons were the best because of the humor they brought but these recent episodes have always been what house 'should' have been if it was going to go on for 8 seasons. character driven with a case very much in the background, and only a way to shows the characterizations and relationships.
for too long the show was stuck in a rut focusing on the patient of each episode and not moving on timeline for the people we actually care about, the team. if they had been making episodes like these for the last few years the show probably would of gone down as one of the greats of all time, an answer to the trashy romcom style dramas that seem to be on constantly with believable characters with flaws and issues and smart dialogue consistently.
ill miss the show when it ends soon but at the same time its for the best. the revolving door or young 'hot' women with daddy issues was a real weakness to the series. it worked great the first time but replacing cameron with 3(?) people filling essentially the same character was probably my biggest pet peeve with the series, a long side cuddys insane choice to go back on what she had been saying for 30 years, that house was an unstable time bomb and deciding to give him a chance, god damn that was stupid.
On May 08 2012 22:03 unkkz wrote: Also Chase leaving? what when? Did i miss something this episode? I watched it over the course of several hours so migt've missed out on some context, can anyone elaborate?
On May 09 2012 06:57 unkkz wrote: Seriously where did they say Chase is leaving? Scrubbed through the episode again but cant find anything.
Did you guys watch the second half of the episode? The entire hospital/ diagnostic portion was Chase going off on his own, telling Park he was leaving after this case, then Foreman and everyone discussing Chase leaving, then Foreman challenging Chase to leave, and then Chase officially telling Foreman he was leaving and going off to make a name for himself (even giving Foreman his locker key for good).
On May 14 2012 14:30 krzych113 wrote: I'd bet that the season will end as he is commiting a suicide, anyone else with such predictions ?
Well that's one way it could end but i think it would be too sad and depressing to end on that. my guess is that + Show Spoiler +
When wilson dies House will come to realize that he cant live like he does and decides to amputate his leg. Last scene will be him at the funeral in a wheelchair or with a prosthetic leg.
Throughout the whole series, his leg was depicted as the manifestation and source of all his pain and despair, not being able to let go, yet suffering because of it. Judging from the last season, I felt like his death would be the only real good conclusion to the series, but as season 8 comes to a conclusion and the last episode seems to be about drugs again, I can see him finally decide to let go of his leg. So those 2 options are available I feel like.
Anything else would be pretty pretty bad. However, he still has to kill 13 and as she also has her last appearance in the last episode this is something that could cause "final" trouble maybe? But it's not more important than his leg, so ... well well :-)
1. When everyone stood up in the cafeteria to give Wilson the (fake) standing ovation, I almost lost it.
2. When House left Wilson in the car, refusing to say that he'd care for him and love him if Wilson won't fight for his life, I was shaking my head so hard.
3. When Taub chased down House in the hall, calling him an ass for disrespecting Wilson's choice... and then House whirled around and snapped- screaming about how life is hard and living through the constant pain is nearly impossible... probably the most touching moment in the series for me.
4. The choking of the patient was just plain epic.
5. Wilson making the decision to try chemotherapy because he truly cares for House, and then House honestly accepting Wilson's choice to just be a good friend and enjoy the last five months together. It was so perfect.
6. And then... finding out that he needs to go back to jail for six months. He's going to miss the last few months with Wilson. I cried.
Next week... the series finale... two hours long. Then it's over.
On May 15 2012 11:16 Olinim wrote: Man...all of season 8 has been amazing in my opinon. I'm happy that Cameron is returning for the finale, can't wait to see how it unfolds.
On May 15 2012 14:06 NrGmonk wrote: I'm surprised House got in trouble for vandalism and not for trying to choke a patient to death.
This. I totally called the ending of the episode except I thought it was going to be for assault, not vandalism.
I seriously have no fucking idea what's going to happen in the series finale, which is odd for an avid TV watcher such as myself! I have a few theories, but none seem more likely than the others! (I don't watch previews for TV shows anymore, so it may be obvious to others).
I really hope they find a good solid ending for the show, it's been a fantastic solidly entertaining TV show, and House is one of the best fictional characters on TV! Really sad it's ending.
PS: Chase/Cuddy not being in the series finale=not cool
On May 15 2012 14:06 NrGmonk wrote: I'm surprised House got in trouble for vandalism and not for trying to choke a patient to death.
PS: Chase/Cuddy not being in the series finale=not cool
This. It's hard to figure out a worthy ending to the show if they dont have any appearance in the final episode. Cuddy played a huge part in the past seasons and were in pretty much every episode. For her just to disappear without any last words is unworthy for the role she played. Chase at least got time to say goodbye.
Now it's time to start speculating what will happen in the final episode. + Show Spoiler +
Will Wilsons death be too much for House to handle leading him to commit suicide? Will House put down thirteen?
My prediction of what will happen in the last episode:+ Show Spoiler +
House goes to jail. In there he get visited by Wilson a few times where he gets a last will from Wilson that he should do what he always told him to, amputate his leg. After Wilson is dead and he's been to the funeral he decides that he will go through with his will and remove the leg. Last scene will be of him sitting in a wheelchair or with a prosthetic leg putting thirteen to her final sleep.
On May 15 2012 14:06 NrGmonk wrote: I'm surprised House got in trouble for vandalism and not for trying to choke a patient to death.
PS: Chase/Cuddy not being in the series finale=not cool
This. It's hard to figure out a worthy ending to the show if they dont have any appearance in the final episode. Cuddy played a huge part in the past seasons and were in pretty much every episode. For her just to disappear without any last words is unworthy for the role she played. Chase at least got time to say goodbye.
Now it's time to start speculating what will happen in the final episode. + Show Spoiler +
Will Wilsons death be too much for House to handle leading him to commit suicide? Will House put down thirteen?
My prediction of what will happen in the last episode:+ Show Spoiler +
House goes to jail. In there he get visited by Wilson a few times where he gets a last will from Wilson that he should do what he always told him to, amputate his leg. After Wilson is dead and he's been to the funeral he decides that he will go through with his will and remove the leg. Last scene will be of him sitting in a wheelchair or with a prosthetic leg putting thirteen to her final sleep.
I think with regards to Cuddy there were money issues for her coming back last I heard...
On May 15 2012 18:14 Monsen wrote: Great episode- what about an epic jailbreak and a Bonny&Clyde ending for House and Wilson?
Rofl, I thought about that too. Would be hilarious!
I honestly think this is a possibility for the finale. I mean, this show almost always fits in a happy ending, so this should be similar. (Except when actors are leaving the show of course). He sort of did it after last finale, when we saw him at some beach in the end, after he'd ran the car into Cuddys house.
This episode was quite good, the whole thing with the flooding seemed kind of stupid and random, House didn't really gain much from the prank in the first place, and in everything else has a complete overview of the consequences, but not here for some reason. Kind of same thing with the cafetina scene.
On May 16 2012 03:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The title of the last episode is a parody on House's famous quote (Everybody lies). It's called Everybody Dies. Uh oh.
Kutner will make an appearance (I guess in a dream sequence or something like that). Masters will play a small role too. Obviously Thirteen is part of it.
Hugh Laurie described the final episode as "uplifting".
I think it's pretty lame they are using cancer as a plot device, like it hadn't already been done for a million times before. The writers must really be running out of ideas when they decided to use this weak, cliche and convenient device to earn a few cheap tears.
On May 16 2012 06:22 _Ice_ wrote: I think it's pretty lame they are using cancer as a plot device, like it hadn't already been done for a million times before. The writers must really be running out of ideas when they decided to use this weak, cliche and convenient device to earn a few cheap tears.
On May 16 2012 06:22 _Ice_ wrote: I think it's pretty lame they are using cancer as a plot device, like it hadn't already been done for a million times before. The writers must really be running out of ideas when they decided to use this weak, cliche and convenient device to earn a few cheap tears.
Would you have preferred lupus?
Or sarcoidosis
Holy crap..... just saw this episode. It was AMAZING! Incredible stuff right there. Every character played an important role in this episode. I am going to be so sad that this show is ending, but I also CANNOT wait to see the finale
Overall I liked the last episode, but I found the whole flooding thing extremely far fetched. The hospital staff was aware of the flooding for a very long time and it didn't occur to anyone to turn of the water supply to the affected areas. It was only when the ceiling over the MRI room collapsed that they shut it down.
The ending was pretty good. Wasn't sure how it would actually end if House really did die. Not sure what House will do after Wilson dies, but who cares?
On May 22 2012 11:04 rysecake wrote: wait...so did he die or not?
Not dead. Drove off into the sunset with Wilson on motorcycles.
The "confirmed dead House" by the coroner was the other dead guy in the burning house (the heroin addict from the case) that he brought with him and switched the dental records. Or something like that. Unidentified body + House's dental records = assumed House (except it was a trick planned by House so he could get away). Foreman laughing at tne end proved that even he figured out that House got away (as did the cell phone at the funeral).
Evem thou i disliked the ending, I think this might have been the best way to end it. If he ended up miserably it would be way to obvious , if he ended happy that would be too out of character.
Chase taking House's place in the hospital was the best. Now there can be Chase MD, and one episode could have the shocking return of House (but just for 1 episode, to be cool) Ah I can see it now. A sequel would be great. Maybe in a few years.
On May 22 2012 12:15 aeroblaster wrote: Chase taking House's place in the hospital was the best. Now there can be Chase MD, and one episode could have the shocking return of House (but just for 1 episode, to be cool) Ah I can see it now. A sequel would be great. Maybe in a few years.
I also felt that Chase taking over House's spot was a pretty good move, although a Chase MD spin-off would probably be terrible x.x But House coming back would be hilarious ^^
Cutner was the best hallucination. I was expecting the hallucinations to be way more fun.
Sad it didn't end in tragedy.
On the other hand, great Sherlock moment (though not as good as the British Sherlock, haha).
For me, the most powerful moment this season, the lowest tone it hit, and the most confident I felt that it would end in tragedy, was when Dominika left him.
Really liked how they ended it and it's really hard to put an end to such a good show. The 'swan song' hour before the finale was good too but didn't feel the impact of never having a new house again until the very end of the finale.
Amazing last episode imo. I'm just a bit sad not to see him end up with Dominika, it really broke my heart when she left him. R.I.P House M.D., god I will miss this show...
I wasnt watching closely enough and I couldn't tell, was foreman smiling because he figured out house was alive or because he was just remembering him?
On May 22 2012 14:29 Complete wrote: I wasnt watching closely enough and I couldn't tell, was foreman smiling because he figured out house was alive or because he was just remembering him?
He had to have figured it out. Because when House came in to see him he was putting a thick piece of paper under his table. Not House's badge for the hospital. So the only way it got there would be for House himself to have put it there. Like a few others were saying. That combined w/ the phone in Wilson's pocket he had to have known House wasn't dead.
I liked the Episode. I'm sad House is gone. It was really cool to see all the characters brought back in one way or another and how they all got a moment. I liked it. Was sort of a way for them to do justice to the whole series where all those actors/actresses played parts at some point in the series. I am disappointed that Cuddy wasn't part of it tho.
Oh well, what happened to epic 2 hours finale? Still decent episode I suppose, I'm ok with it ending like this. Plus they still left themselves the option of a road trip Kung-Fu-Cain style sequel (preferable to Chase MD imo).
On May 22 2012 15:09 Monsen wrote: Oh well, what happened to epic 2 hours finale?
On May 22 2012 15:11 phyren wrote: I missed watching this live. What was the swan song thing that aired before the finale?
The first hour in the two-hour season finale was really just interviews and videos of the cast. It was pretty funny and cute, but it wasn't part of the last episode. The last episode was just one hour long, like usual.
Based on the initial advertising, I thought the actual episode itself was going to be two hours long. Kinda let down by that, but oh well.
Where was Cuddy >< I can't believe that she didn't make an appearance even in his hallucinations if not at the 'funeral', I guess the actress that plays Cuddy was not available to make a cameo
How long was House inside the burning building? Would he not have died from smoke inhalation after being unconscious for who knows how long? It seems really unlikely that he would just walk out of there, although i'm not a doctor.
As someone that has followed the show since 2004...god i dont know what im going to do without it. An amazing series that has run its course...but it will be remembered forever...
Where was Cuddy >< I can't believe that she didn't make an appearance even in his hallucinations if not at the 'funeral', I guess the actress that plays Cuddy was not available to make a cameo
How long was House inside the burning building? Would he not have died from smoke inhalation after being unconscious for who knows how long? It seems really unlikely that he would just walk out of there, although i'm not a doctor.
He drove a car into her house when she was in it w/ her family so her not being shown makes sense. Maybe she could have been there as a hallucination but I think Stacey filled that role well enough of being his regret of not having a normal life and the fact he never would.
Also we don't know how long he was in the building when it was on fire or how long the fire had been going etc. Most of what occurred was inside his head so it may have been a rather short period of time. He was lying down most of the time so that may have been a factor.
Pretty predictable ending, was sort of obvious beforehand that he'd pull some stunt to get out of the jail sentence. Surely if House had died in the fire they'd have pulled out two bodies, also House was just inside the door yet it took the firemen ages to find a body.
Where was Cuddy >< I can't believe that she didn't make an appearance even in his hallucinations if not at the 'funeral', I guess the actress that plays Cuddy was not available to make a cameo
How long was House inside the burning building? Would he not have died from smoke inhalation after being unconscious for who knows how long? It seems really unlikely that he would just walk out of there, although i'm not a doctor.
I think Lisa Edelstein left the show over $$ disputes so maybe there's just bad blood between them. You have a point about smoke inhalation but this is one of these common t.v. things that we just overlook. People on t.v. rush into burning buildings all the time. I'm more disappointed that a building exploding for seemingly no reason.
The last season might have been the best one. Really enjoyed it from the beginning to the end. Liked the ending. Much better then i could fantasize. So sad it's over
I guess I did expect a little more with all the hype from FOX. But in the end I'm quite happy that they didn't overdo it and that the show didn't end with big explosions and... oh wait. It did.
Anyway, I like that this ending lacks the heaviness of actually ending things. + Show Spoiler +
Wilson isn't dead. Thirteen isn't dead. Afterall, House didn't die in this episode.
It was also one of the less emotional endings to a T.V. series. Overall, I am happy with it. House has been a great show and I will definitely miss it.
I sincerely hope they won't do a Chase-centered follow up but I am calling it. Not now... one day.
On May 22 2012 20:31 KwarK wrote: Wish they'd killed him. House doesn't get to end happy, he should finally succumb to his demons.
I did not get the feeling of a happy ending. House had essentially burned all his bridges. What is he going to do once Wilson dies? He has no family/friends/assets or even credentials. If I stretch for a happy thought it is that this is possibly the only way for him to make an honest fresh start. But lets face it, the long term outlook for House at the end of the episode is suicidally awful.
Few things to say about the finale, but firstly. How did the patient die? He was cured, and I really can't imagine him just giving house some of his heroine. I must have missed it, otherwise they could be implying house killed him and set the whole thing up?
Other than that, it was a OK finale. But I feel there are more questions asked than answered. Once Wilson dies, house if fucked. No puzzles, no friends, no nothing.
On May 22 2012 21:05 Westy wrote: Few things to say about the finale, but firstly. How did the patient die? He was cured, and I really can't imagine him just giving house some of his heroine. I must have missed it, otherwise they could be implying house killed him and set the whole thing up?
Other than that, it was a OK finale. But I feel there are more questions asked than answered. Once Wilson dies, house if fucked. No puzzles, no friends, no nothing.
He's changed though. He's always been saying that people can't change, and he just blew the whole thing in one sentence. The fact that he selflessly gave up his life as a doctor, the only thing that makes him forget about his demons, tends to prove that he indeed has evolved. He's gonna be fine. Or not.
On May 22 2012 21:05 Westy wrote: Few things to say about the finale, but firstly. How did the patient die? He was cured, and I really can't imagine him just giving house some of his heroine. I must have missed it, otherwise they could be implying house killed him and set the whole thing up?
Other than that, it was a OK finale. But I feel there are more questions asked than answered. Once Wilson dies, house if fucked. No puzzles, no friends, no nothing.
He's changed though. He's always been saying that people can't change, and he just blew the whole thing in one sentence. The fact that he selflessly gave up his life as a doctor, the only thing that makes him forget about his demons, tends to prove that he indeed has evolved. He's gonna be fine. Or not.
I do like that some of the fundamentals of the House character stayed with him until the end:
-He went through with a plan and didn't care how others felt about it, as long as he justified it in his own way (even Wilson getting pissed at his funeral showed this- even House's death was selfish).
-Things always work out for House (he ends up getting away with it), despite the fact that he ends up burning bridges and becoming more alone all the time (we don't really care what happens to House after Wilson dies, because House is finally happy for once- just to see Wilson off for the last five months of his life). .
-He always knew everything, and acted arrogantly because of it (asking Foreman and Wilson for favors but also throwing in their faces the fact that they're so easily manipulated, so then plans fall through and he needs to come up with back-ups).
-He didn't succumb to finally believing in God at the end (even going so far as to smack down Pascal's Wager when posed by his ex-wife).
On May 22 2012 20:31 KwarK wrote: Wish they'd killed him. House doesn't get to end happy, he should finally succumb to his demons.
Agreed, but not to his demons, I thought the presumed ending of house deciding to go against his whole philosophy and embrace change, walking away from the fire and death with cathartic purpose, only to end up dying as the house collapsed around him was far more dramatic.
I'm kind of torn. On one hand, I like that he got to spend the last few months with Wilson. On the other hand, I wish they'd kill him.
Here's how my final House episode would have been; Wilson is dead or dies in the beginning of the episode. House gets some sort of parole or something to go to his funeral, and than bails. He self-destructs without Wilson. 13 comes to him, obviously in a very bad way, having trouble walking and even speaking normally. She asks House to end her, and he later obliges. House is shown contemplating suicide. Everybody Dies. (not really, but you get the point :D) We see the surviving characters at the funeral, and that's a wrap. Kind of dark, but that's House for you.
I'm damn well gonna miss House. One of the best characters to ever appear on television. Great show.
On May 22 2012 19:39 Weson wrote: The last season might have been the best one. Really enjoyed it from the beginning to the end. Liked the ending. Much better then i could fantasize. So sad it's over
I don't know how anyone can have this opinion... This season was easily the most poor written season of House ever done. The only one that comes close would be the previous season. You could watch the last 3 episodes of this entire season and you wouldn't miss any plot development with the exception of Chase leaving, which didn't even feel all that special anyway. I don't think I could be more disappointed with how they decided to end the show.
On May 22 2012 22:41 NuclearJudas wrote: I'm kind of torn. On one hand, I like that he got to spend the last few months with Wilson. On the other hand, I wish they'd kill him.
Here's how my final House episode would have been; Wilson is dead or dies in the beginning of the episode. House gets some sort of parole or something to go to his funeral, and than bails. He self-destructs without Wilson. 13 comes to him, obviously in a very bad way, having trouble walking and even speaking normally. She asks House to end her, and he later obliges. House is shown contemplating suicide. Everybody Dies. (not really, but you get the point :D) We see the surviving characters at the funeral, and that's a wrap. Kind of dark, but that's House for you.
I'm damn well gonna miss House. One of the best characters to ever appear on television. Great show.
I like your idea! Just to elaborate on my idea being put into your storyline:
He obliges putting the needle in Thirteen and she dies, thanking him... then he reflects with his subconscious on how everything he knows and loves is gone (Wilson is, "the puzzle" isn't, etc.), and then the camera closes in on him holding the needle up to his face, clearly considering suicide.
Then the screen goes black, and the show ends.
I think that would have been awesome
EDIT: Also, House would probably have to fuck up Wilson's funeral somehow. By calling him an idiot in a eulogy or whatnot. Typical House not conforming to social constructs. Like what Wilson did at House's funeral, although that was out of frustration rather than personality trait
When House fell from the second floor, he would have broken his leg. His inner struggle would have also included Chase, who is in some twisted way, very much like a son to him. While he crawled for the door, Wilson and Foreman would be coming up the street. When the door opens, House and Wilson meet eyes as the roof comes down on top of him. His top half still exposed, they pull him from the fire. As a result from the injuries, House has to finally have his leg amputated. Due to the recovery, House is able to spend months with Wilson in the Hospital. As Wilson gets sicker, House's health improves. Not only is House slowly learning to live without his best friend, but also his leg(his two greatest fears). House has the same realization, that he can change, but the struggle should be so emotional that he breaks down next to Wilson and confesses all to his best friend. Show ends scrolling over the Hospital beds, showing them both. One weakened by cancer, the other pride/fear.
My reaction to the finale is "meh" but I agree on how it was done; with House facing his inner self, because the series was interesting in my opinion mainly because of House's personality and to finally face his inner demons seemed appropriate.
Man I expected so much more for the finale. I mean this series was f*ing amazing..... but the ending just didn't quite do it justice. Meh, w/e. Nothing I can do about it.
I loved the whole imagery behind the finale, it had a lot of deep metaphors and classic elements to it, it really made you think. From the fall into hell, to Cameron the temptress it was deeper than most people realize
The show has always been about House and Wilson's enduring friendship. Take a look at the opening scene of the pilot episode and then look at the final episode
I'm okay with how House ended. I mean, it could have been worse.
I don't think he survived. I think House actually died and everything else was a hallucination or something.
1. He was the only one in that building. 2. No way he "went out the back way" with a collapsing structure around him and a limp. 3. The last song was the same song Amber sang to him in his hallucinations at the end of Season 5. 4. His riding off into the sunset with Wilson is symbolic; House is dead and Wilson is going to die, and they're going together into the great unknown. 5. Pre-death hallucinations have already been established for House, in the "Three Stories" episode in season 1. He basically saw the future in the ideal light. 6. If I remember it right, House didn't limp when he met Wilson, which is indicative of a hallucination (in terms of the series).
I just think the ending is more ambiguous than people might think. Unless I'm just crazy!
On May 22 2012 23:09 reptile wrote: If I had written this finale:
When House fell from the second floor, he would have broken his leg. His inner struggle would have also included Chase, who is in some twisted way, very much like a son to him. While he crawled for the door, Wilson and Foreman would be coming up the street. When the door opens, House and Wilson meet eyes as the roof comes down on top of him. His top half still exposed, they pull him from the fire. As a result from the injuries, House has to finally have his leg amputated. Due to the recovery, House is able to spend months with Wilson in the Hospital. As Wilson gets sicker, House's health improves. Not only is House slowly learning to live without his best friend, but also his leg(his two greatest fears). House has the same realization, that he can change, but the struggle should be so emotional that he breaks down next to Wilson and confesses all to his best friend. Show ends scrolling over the Hospital beds, showing them both. One weakened by cancer, the other pride/fear.
10/10 would read again
In all seriousness, that would have been more fitting >_>
Just watched it, wp in my opinion. Left it open to interpretation, so you can take what you want out of it. I know the Lost finale wasn't well received but I completely agree with what JJ Abrams said in a interview about the way they ended the series, "in the end you won't satisfy everyone". + Show Spoiler +
yeah, the ending fucking blew imo, but it was the quote I was going for, not the implementation lol
I think they did a good job considering, I personally really liked the 4 visions they chose. And I also approved of Wilson's "Real Talk" at the funeral, it was pretty important to me to include it at the very end, with nobody to answer to. Over the course of the series there were things I didn't disagree with here and there, but overall I would say it was a worthwhile way to waste my time and that's really what counts >.>
On May 23 2012 06:36 jeeeeohn wrote: I don't think he survived. I think House actually died and everything else was a hallucination or something.
1. He was the only one in that building. 2. No way he "went out the back way" with a collapsing structure around him and a limp. 3. The last song was the same song Amber sang to him in his hallucinations at the end of Season 5. 4. His riding off into the sunset with Wilson is symbolic; House is dead and Wilson is going to die, and they're going together into the great unknown. 5. Pre-death hallucinations have already been established for House, in the "Three Stories" episode in season 1. He basically saw the future in the ideal light. 6. If I remember it right, House didn't limp when he met Wilson, which is indicative of a hallucination (in terms of the series).
I just think the ending is more ambiguous than people might think. Unless I'm just crazy!
1. He wasn't the only one in there. The heroine overdose guy was. 2. Yeah it seemed to fall directly on him, but its TV, what can you do? 4. Riding into the sunset is generally symbolism for a happy ending, not death. 6. Just looked it over. He limps to his motorcycle.
I'm pretty sure he didn't die. That would be a stuipd way to end it. "IT WAS ALL A DREAM!"
I guess the ending was alright. The ending written above on this page is probalby better -- he should have got rid of that leg. Still, can't complain. It was believable and it wasn't bad. Was expecting Masters to play a bigger role (ie: some role) in the final episode. Instead she was just there.
The ending was another homage to Sherlock Holmes. Holmes also "dies" in the series written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. But it turns out that he is alive all along and that he was faking being dead to escape his reputation so that he may begin life anew. Much the same happened here. House has to "die" so that all other options but spending time with Wilson are taken away from him (He can't go back to practicing medicine because he is dead; No jail time for dead people etc).
House never woke up after he got shot and he's still in a coma dreaming all this time. Wilson dying is symbolism for his own death as he slips deeper into coma. lol@dream/hallucination theorists.
On May 23 2012 06:36 jeeeeohn wrote: I don't think he survived. I think House actually died and everything else was a hallucination or something.
1. He was the only one in that building. 2. No way he "went out the back way" with a collapsing structure around him and a limp. 3. The last song was the same song Amber sang to him in his hallucinations at the end of Season 5. 4. His riding off into the sunset with Wilson is symbolic; House is dead and Wilson is going to die, and they're going together into the great unknown. 5. Pre-death hallucinations have already been established for House, in the "Three Stories" episode in season 1. He basically saw the future in the ideal light. 6. If I remember it right, House didn't limp when he met Wilson, which is indicative of a hallucination (in terms of the series).
I just think the ending is more ambiguous than people might think. Unless I'm just crazy!
I'm at the same time sad and glad the show's over. On the one hand, this show has been a part of my life for the past four years but on the other hand, the quality of the show has been declining since the end of season 5. Just watch any of the episodes of season 4, they are way beyond anything the show did afterwards. Especially the final two episodes, those were probably the best television I've ever seen.
On May 23 2012 06:36 jeeeeohn wrote: I don't think he survived. I think House actually died and everything else was a hallucination or something.
1. He was the only one in that building. 2. No way he "went out the back way" with a collapsing structure around him and a limp. 3. The last song was the same song Amber sang to him in his hallucinations at the end of Season 5. 4. His riding off into the sunset with Wilson is symbolic; House is dead and Wilson is going to die, and they're going together into the great unknown. 5. Pre-death hallucinations have already been established for House, in the "Three Stories" episode in season 1. He basically saw the future in the ideal light. 6. If I remember it right, House didn't limp when he met Wilson, which is indicative of a hallucination (in terms of the series).
I just think the ending is more ambiguous than people might think. Unless I'm just crazy!
wasnt there another guy with him? That drug addict?
But Im not sure how people not get suspicious when the drug addict's body is at the 2nd floor? but house is presumed to have died at the entrance.
7. They only pulled and mentioned one body at the end. Granted, they might have just skipped over it, but there's a chance it was just House in there and that body was actually House.
7. They only pulled and mentioned one body at the end. Granted, they might have just skipped over it, but there's a chance it was just House in there and that body was actually House.
Or that it was just the dead addict's body and House had the dental records switched, as he explained
the other guy's body is at another floor. But house was thought to die at the entrance, so why noone suspected anything? Maybe i need to rewatch this sometime.
The first half of the episode was rather boring, but the second half more than made up for that. Still sad I won't be looking forward to new episodes each tuesday anymore though.
I don't think we'll see a "Chase MD" spin-off anytime soon. Chase is probably the most fleshed-out character except for House himself, but not nearly as interesting.
Even that I think they could have killed him, it makes more sense to make another homage to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle...also Foreman kinda shows that he understood House last move with that last smile...
Anyway it makes me kinda sad being this the series that I most watched over the last 8years and now I don't have anything that I enjoy watching this much :/
On May 23 2012 23:04 NIIINO wrote: What about Foreman finding ID at the end ? Didnt he say that he is dead for 6 months and then he is going to change or something ?
Him finding the ID (which House used to level the table for Foreman, that he was trying to fix earlier in the episode) and then thinking to himself and grinning shows that Foreman figured out that House was alive after all.
On May 23 2012 20:17 thoradycus wrote: but what i dont understand is this,
the other guy's body is at another floor. But house was thought to die at the entrance, so why noone suspected anything? Maybe i need to rewatch this sometime.
Burning buildings tend to collapse. Also the explosion might have propelled House way back into the middle of the house. Not to mention that the only one for whom the positioning of the body might be considered important information would be Wilson or Foreman and none of them was inside the building to retrieve the corpse. They don't know where the firemen found the body. To them the dental record is all the proof they need.
On May 23 2012 23:04 NIIINO wrote: What about Foreman finding ID at the end ? Didnt he say that he is dead for 6 months and then he is going to change or something ?
Him finding the ID (which House used to level the table for Foreman, that he was trying to fix earlier in the episode) and then thinking to himself and grinning shows that Foreman figured out that House was alive after all.
Not only that but the fact that he hands his ID in to foreman shows both that he is alive and that he is done with his medical career. He is saying that he's leaving his old life behind and starting a new one. Maybe he would contact some people from his old life since they obviously wouldn't rat him out to authorities but more likely not.
On May 23 2012 23:04 NIIINO wrote: What about Foreman finding ID at the end ? Didnt he say that he is dead for 6 months and then he is going to change or something ?
Him finding the ID (which House used to level the table for Foreman, that he was trying to fix earlier in the episode) and then thinking to himself and grinning shows that Foreman figured out that House was alive after all.
Not only that but the fact that he hands his ID in to foreman shows both that he is alive and that he is done with his medical career. He is saying that he's leaving his old life behind and starting a new one. Maybe he would contact some people from his old life since they obviously wouldn't rat him out to authorities but more likely not.
Excellent ending to an excellent show. R.I.P. Gregory House, in a figurative sense.
On May 25 2012 19:30 baldgye wrote: have to say, it was an awesome ending to an awesome show... I'm just sad its over
Meh, the last couple of seasons have been kind of bad, was about time they ended it. It was another of those shows that I only stuck with to the end because: "I've gone this far, might as well see it to the end". Kind of like How I met your mother.
On May 25 2012 19:30 baldgye wrote: have to say, it was an awesome ending to an awesome show... I'm just sad its over
Meh, the last couple of seasons have been kind of bad, was about time they ended it. It was another of those shows that I only stuck with to the end because: "I've gone this far, might as well see it to the end". Kind of like How I met your mother.
I don't feel that way at all and while it might have been a stronger series over all if they had planned out a smaller show.. but regardless the last few seasons I really enjoyed and it held up over the course, for me at least.
Good ending to a good show. I was expecting something different, something.. darker and bittersweet, but they certainly did the series justice. I would have liked to see an epilogue of sorts, though.
Im sad that this amazing show ended but that is not the reason why I didn't like the last episode. I feel it didn't do justice to this great show. The actual ending was not what I was expecting but still, it wasn't bad but the episode as a whole....idk, it didn't made me laugh, it didn't made feel emotional or something. Nothing apart from the fact that I was sad because it ended.
Still I liked all seasons, a few more than others and I will always remember this show and Hugh Laurie as House (although I knew him before from black adder and the likes).
Plus at least in this page it seems Im the only one who didn't like the last episode lol so maybe Im just sad about it ending ^^
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