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No, this is not a joke/trolling thread. We don't need more filler posts asking if it is.
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The general idea I've got from reading the last few pages is that men who enjoy My Little Pony are generally "weird people" who are afflicted with "brain damage". Furthermore, MLP fans are unlikely to find "normal" girlfriends, and are just a step below seniors who take pictures of those they hate for stabby-time.
I can only speak for myself here, because I don't know any Pony fans in real life.
First and foremost defining what is "normal" in terms of psychological profiles is important if we're to label people outside the norm. What traits would make an MLP fan abnormal, aside from his interest in MLP? If weirdness is strictly defined as, "one who likes MLP", then yeah, it's an accurate definition, but meaningless in the context of this debate. If the only "weird" trait is enjoying the show, how would one ever recognize an MLP fan in public? If the definition of "weird people" is more inclusive, those proposing MLP fans are weird ought to explain exactly what traits they mean ("Weirdness" doesn't count as one of those traits! be specific ;D).
Here's a snapshot of shit i like, if it helps form a definition of weirdness:
+ Show Spoiler +SC2, Battlefield, reading, sleeping, sex, eating, class lectures (okay that definitely makes me weird, haha), arguing, politics, star trek (not all of it, but TNG, DS9, VGR), movies (ranging from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Romeo and Juliet to Gladiator and Children of Men, and... My Little Pony.
As far as being brain damaged is concerned... Well, I don't think I'm brain damaged! Certainly no doctor has mentioned it to me -- perhaps they're concerned my self esteem would suffer. In any case, my brain damage (real or otherwise) hasn't affected my ability to excel academically, nor my being able to hold down (admittedly modest) jobs. Perhaps I'm an outlier in the pony community, but based on the quality of some (if not most) of the posters I've seen, I think we can rule brain damage out.
And the ladies -- well. I don't know. My girlfriend is amused that I like MLP. We've both independently watched the series, and we've watched a few episodes together. We have MLP in-jokes. I might venture to say that any guy comfortable with his affinity for MLP is comfortable with himself. Chicks dig confidence. Who doesn't? I think a guy reacting to MLP by turning red-faced and clearing his browser history has anxiety issues regarding his identity, perceived or otherwise (though maybe I do! Look at this monumental defense I'm mounting for myself! Ahhhh oh nooooo. Haha).
Why do I watch the show?
+ Show Spoiler +Some people make an argument that MLP is a lot about character; others say it's because the art is great; still others say the dialogue is witty and well-written. I watch it because it is ideal. It is simple. It depicts a world where problems are presented and everyone talks it out and comes to a sane, reasonable conclusion, or they mess up and learn something about being friends, or about living life generally. It is an incredibly simple show on this level. It is a relief to watch something like this as a retreat from the overwhelming complexity of the real world. The ethical conundrum of war, health care in the States (where i'm from), a teetering economy, the environmental disasters perpetrated by humanity that have such momentum that they seem unable to stop (production of plastics)... Peak oil, the rise of Indian and Chinese economic competition... Well, I could go on. But my point is simple: My Little Pony is an easy, straightforward little world. Things are solved amicably. Violence is rarely effective.
Furthermore, the ponies exemplify traits that are admirable. Twilight's love of learning, Applejack's stubborn work ethic, Rainbow Dash's boldness, Pinkie Pie's basic enjoyment of life, Fluttershy's compassion, and Rarity... Well, I'll let a Rarity fan speak for her. But the other traits mentioned are all things I, as a student (and more generally, a human interested in self-respect), find admirable. These characters are simple reminders that those traits are WORTH HAVING, even in the face of the moral ambiguity in the world.
I mentioned in an earlier post that I find the ponies therapeutic. They are the calm in the river, for me. They are not complex, they are not deathless art, etc etc. Instead they serve a personal purpose (that isn't "i need rule 34 material", but something promoting growth). Maybe that will change as Season 2 comes out, maybe it's a fad, maybe this, maybe that. But that's where I'm at as an MLP fan.
tl;dr
Ponies help make life simple and easy. Also, I don't think I'm a social reject, for the reasons listed above.
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Just a quick note since you asked for a Rarity fan to speak for her :p
+ Show Spoiler +Simply she is very generous and puts her friends before herself quite often plus for the little girls theres nothing wrong with being ladylike, it does not mean you need to be weak
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So, someone linked me this, and I just had to share
Warning: dangerous amounts of pinkie pie and joy, may cause undesired happiness and the urge to sing.
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Admittedly i have never heard of the show before, however to the OP and the posters that made this thread visible i would like to say a big thank you!
There's a team fortress 2 mod I play with my girlfriend sometimes thats like an expansion of the old Saxton Hale mode, where one super team (like 23 players) verses a player using a super powered character. One of these 'bosses' that can be selected is applejack, and weve been wondering for ages what applejack is, and why a brightly coloured pony was attempting to hoove us to death.
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Don't feed the Parasprites, guys. People making stubborn and unfounded arguments aren't worth talking to. If they aren't willing to give ground and have a proper discussion, then it only serves to piss all over the thread.
I also find it really ironic that fans of StarCraft are behaving so ignorantly. They're acting exactly like people that think SC is no more than a kid's video game, that professional gaming/esports is a farce, and dedicating any time to playing SC competatively is a big waste of time and will get you nowhere in life. Anyone that's a true fan of SC knows that SC is far more than just a game, it's a true sport. Same goes with MLP. It's far more than just a kid's show. A good episode of MLP that relates to these past few pages of biggotry is episode 9, and maybe even episode 5.
If you look at MLP with an open mind, watch a bit of it, and it's still not your cup of tea, fine. I won't bother anyone that's tried MLP and isn't a fan, because not everyone can like something.
Remember, one of the virtues of being a brony is love and tolerance. Self-defence is fine, but the best defense against an ignorant troll is to outright ignore them. Flames only make them stronger.
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Question, again just me being curious: is there also a demographic of adult women for the show? The term "brony" seems to exclude females, I would think
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On August 30 2011 08:08 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
Question, again just me being curious: is there also a demographic of adult women for the show? The term "brony" seems to exclude females, I would think
The therm Brony comes form /b/ only later was the Bro ness ever insuated.
It has been debated but no official therm for women who like ponies has ever come up and many prefer to keep the Brony therm for both genders.
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yikes, watched about 4 minutes of that 7th episode and dont really get all the hype. i was hoping it was a satire of something or yeah but no. its great for a kids show i guess, but honestly the last cartoon i enjoyed was courage the cowardly dog. its strange how popular this is though... maybe its a hipster thing.
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On August 30 2011 08:28 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
What is /b/?
You don't want to know.
Also, not spoilered because this needs emphasis:
![[image loading]](http://jacobminkoff.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/what-were-watching.jpg)
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On August 30 2011 08:31 WniO wrote:
yikes, watched about 4 minutes of that 7th episode and dont really get all the hype. i was hoping it was a satire of something or yeah but no. its great for a kids show i guess, but honestly the last cartoon i enjoyed was courage the cowardly dog. its strange how popular this is though... maybe its a hipster thing.
Did you just call me a hipster? :@
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/56tVp.gif)
RAAAaaaaaaaaage
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On August 30 2011 08:26 Madkipz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 08:08 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
Question, again just me being curious: is there also a demographic of adult women for the show? The term "brony" seems to exclude females, I would think The therm Brony comes form /b/ only later was the Bro ness ever insuated.
Why isn't it "Bony" then? There is no R in /b/ nor in pony.
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On August 30 2011 08:28 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
What is /b/?
Do yourself a favor, and never ask this question again, ever, under any circumstances. If it is ever brought up again, cover your ears, close your eyes, and pretend you are somewhere else until it goes away.
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Honestly, the easily definable nature of each pony is refreshing. Its a simple show, my only qualm is the replacement of 'body' with 'pony' in every situation....that's a bit overly-cute.
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On August 30 2011 08:44 Back wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 08:26 Madkipz wrote:On August 30 2011 08:08 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
Question, again just me being curious: is there also a demographic of adult women for the show? The term "brony" seems to exclude females, I would think The therm Brony comes form /b/ only later was the Bro ness ever insuated. Why isn't it "Bony" then? There is no R in /b/ nor in pony.
Its a contraction from bro (often used to refer to likeminded / friends) and pony. /b/ has nothing to do with it.
They just pretended to like this show for a while to troll people. Instead people really liked it and \b\ got flooded with pony threads.
On August 30 2011 08:47 Camail wrote:
Honestly, the easily definable nature of each pony is refreshing. Its a simple show, my only qualm is the replacement of 'body' with 'pony' in every situation....that's a bit overly-cute.
IMO they should use it more, for example as verbs. Like smurfs. I.e. Ponies gonna pony.
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On August 30 2011 08:26 Madkipz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 08:08 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
Question, again just me being curious: is there also a demographic of adult women for the show? The term "brony" seems to exclude females, I would think The therm Brony comes form /b/ only later was the Bro ness ever insuated. It has been debated but no official therm for women who like ponies has ever come up and many prefer to keep the Brony therm for both genders.
Actually, many girls perefer the term "pegasis".
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On August 30 2011 08:40 Gary Oak wrote:You don't want to know. Also, not spoilered because this needs emphasis: + Show Spoiler +
I think that picture sums everything up perfectly, haha.
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On August 30 2011 08:50 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 08:26 Madkipz wrote:On August 30 2011 08:08 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
Question, again just me being curious: is there also a demographic of adult women for the show? The term "brony" seems to exclude females, I would think The therm Brony comes form /b/ only later was the Bro ness ever insuated. It has been debated but no official therm for women who like ponies has ever come up and many prefer to keep the Brony therm for both genders. Actually, many girls perefer the term "pegasis".
Okay, that is REALLY cute... if I say so myself o.O
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On August 30 2011 09:08 TheRealPaciFist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 08:50 Zephirdd wrote:On August 30 2011 08:26 Madkipz wrote:On August 30 2011 08:08 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
Question, again just me being curious: is there also a demographic of adult women for the show? The term "brony" seems to exclude females, I would think The therm Brony comes form /b/ only later was the Bro ness ever insuated. It has been debated but no official therm for women who like ponies has ever come up and many prefer to keep the Brony therm for both genders. Actually, many girls perefer the term "pegasis". Okay, that is REALLY cute... if I say so myself o.O
Pegasisters would be better mayby. As pegasis is also the actual word, especially in a spoken conversation noone would notice the 'sis' part. But yeah it is really cute :3
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On August 30 2011 05:52 viralintruder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 05:02 matjlav wrote:On August 30 2011 04:35 viralintruder wrote:
Yes matjlav, I would assume that any show centered on a serial murdering detective would draw quite a crowd of a messed up people. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that everyone who watches that show is messed up (that's using Djzapz, PhD logic), but I am saying that there must be something a little off (or just a great deal of desensitization) that appeals to people who enjoy watching murder being peddled on TV. Err, no, people don't enjoy the show because they like watching people get butchered. Everyone already has plenty of gore flicks for that. People watch it because the storyline and characters are awesome, and Dexter being a serial killer is just what is needed for the show to happen. If it means anything to you, I absolutely hate slasher/gore flicks in general. I generally can't sit through more than 15 minutes of them. I think the last one I tried to watch was 28 Weeks Later and I couldn't even handle the opening scene because I generally have too much empathy for the characters on screen to watch people get killed in horrific ways. So I'm definitely not "desensitized" as you suggest. The way Dexter handles the killing scenes is pretty subdued. There are a lot of more violent things to watch if you're looking to get your sadism fix. If you think that Dexter is the most concerning show on TV, then you are seriously misunderstanding the point of the show. You don't even have to sympathize with the title character to enjoy the show. I'm not saying you have to like it, but in suggesting that there "must be something a little off" you are being exactly like Djzapz, just a little less pronounced. Yes, some people watch Dexter to see people being butchered. I associate with people who I believe have all their marbles. I don't think any of them would watch Dexter casually or out of curiosity. I do know that what you like has quite a bit to do with you, but what you do NOT like has EVERYTHING to do with you. What I mean is, let's take chocolate as an example. You like chocolate because it tastes good. The majority of people who like chocolate like it for this reason. Maybe it might even bring you some comfort or some pleasure of otherwise origin. It can be scientifically proven that chocolate stimulates whatever part of your brain that deals with pleasure (in most people). But if you dislike chocolate without legitimate or medical reason to do so, there is something on your part, perhaps some mental aversion or disdain you may have for whatever reason, that causes you to not like chocolate. You don't just get up and say "I hate chocolate". Maybe if your spouse choked on a bar of Snickers, you would have a legitimate reason to despise Snickers, or maybe if it's because of the texture or something along those lines. Again, you may like a house because it is yellow. If you dislike that same house because it is green, there's some aversion or disdain you have towards green houses. "Hmm, this is a beautiful house, too bad it's green  ". I'n not "exactly like Djzapz, just a little less pronounced". What I'm saying is that everything you dislike, you must have a reason for it. If you don't have a reason then your reason is stupidity/ignorance. I (and others) don't like Dexter because it's about a serial murdering detective, and that's a fair reason, but some people do and I don't have an issue with that. I know nothing of the merits of the show, and I even said I haven't watched any substantial portion of it, so I guess I can't speak from a point of authority. Maybe the storyline and characters are so awesome that the show gets its acclaim from those. I dunno. You may like Dexter (or Saw or Human Centipede or whatever) for different reasons than others, but the main point is that it's a show about murdering. Note: I did say not everyone who watches Dexter is messed up. If you can watch Dexter with absolutely no qualms about it, either you have an exceptional mind that can completely disregard fiction with no emotional response, or option two, you have no problem with it and enjoy it, ergo you are desensitized/messed up somehow. I assume you, matjlav, have the former since you say you don't like those types of shows.
I am not 100% sure if i understood what you aim at, so what i talk about next might not make any sense at all as a reaction.
I don't agree with this logic. I don't feel like you need to have a logical reason to like or dislike something. Liking something is emotional, not rational. Every logical reason you have to dislike something is either a rationalisation of the dislike you already have, or a materialisation of a more general dislike that applies to this specific thing.
For example, most people like chocolate because its sweet. But that is not a logical reason to like it, since it only sends the problem one step further. There is not logical reason to like sweet things. I, for example, don't really like milk chocolate. Noone i know has died on chocolate ever, and i also have not had any negative experiences with it. I have no logical reason not to like it. I also don't hate it, i just don't really like it. Dark chocolate, now that is a different thing. That i like. Why? No reason. I just like the taste more. Does this mean that i have some mental problem? I don't think so. Also, if i suddenly logically came to the conclusion that milk chocolate is better, this would still not make me like it.
So basically, my point is that you can't control what you like or dislike, and it is especially not a rational, logical decision. Even if you decide to dislike something you like because you think it would be wrong to like it, you can't really dislike it by decision. You can choose not to act upon that like, and even tell everyone that you dont like it, but that still does not make you dislike it.
This also means that it is wrong to judge someone upon what they like or dislike, because there is no ulterior motive or conscient decision involved here.
The thing you can and should judge is actions. I find it really strange that there are so many people here arguing that something is wrong with you if you like some TV-Show. Just because you enjoy a show about murder does not mean that you enjoy murder, and just because you like a show about girly ponies does not mean....I don't even know what that should mean, honestly. That you are a creepy guy that hangs around playgrounds? Anyway, it does not mean that, or any other absurd exaggerated pseudo-psychological conclusion you might come to.
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