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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Trump
United States350 Posts
I REGRET NOTHING! D'awwww. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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FnF
Finland200 Posts
On February 06 2012 17:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Gummi is so goddam cute, especially for an alligator *monocle* Quite. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ayX1s.jpg) | ||
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gregnog
United States289 Posts
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Zoundsforsook
Scotland636 Posts
On February 06 2012 19:50 gregnog wrote: So my cousin is in to this as well. She is 12. My little sister aswell, she is 10  It was me that showed it to her! | ||
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StarStrider
United States689 Posts
I gave it the old college try. I have an open mind. To my family's confusion I watched the entire first season of MLP. Let me say up front that I "get" the show. It didn't take long. And I understand that there are values and principles instilled to kids from each episode. I am not going to sit here at criticize it in that regard at all. As a kid's show. A kid's show that is unarguably targeted toward little girls. As that show, I give it an A-. But for the life of me I simply cannot understand or accept bronyism. I really tried. I mean, I can understand how ANYONE regardless of age or gender can find the show appealing, the bright colors, the cutesy voices and songs, the varied themed personalities of the ponies. But for the life of me I cannot understand the obsession with the show by any male aged 14+. Can someone please help me understand that? There are THOUSANDS, literally thousands of kids cartoons from the last 30 years that you can be a 'fan of'. Many are funny. SO MANY teach positive lessons. Many are cute. Many have songs. Many have all of these. A small percentage of those are targeted toward little girls, with 90% female characters (with appearances of male characters as only a side act), and female specific themes (makeovers, sleepovers, dressing up, etc). This is the part I don't understand. Why do you focus on one such cartoon, when there are hundreds of others that will fit all the same categories that aren't female themed? The one that, to most people, will make you come off as having a realllllly creepy interest? I understand if you watched it with your little sister and you find the common topic that builds your relationship appealing. But then I don't understand why all your avatars, youtube searches, deviantarts, TL posts, etc. have anything to do with that? I get bandwagoneering. And I get rebellion against gender norms. If those are what bronyism is about, en masse, so be it. Is that your answer? Also, watching it, I realized from an adult perspective the show just really isn't that good. As I said before, for an 8 year old girl, I give it an A-. But everything about it was predictable and cookie cutter. There's always a pony or several left out of the group, or trying to fit in, or in conflict, or misunderstood, and must spend the entire episode trying to remedy the situation. The jokes weren't that funny. There's nothing novel or intersting in this show at all, except that the characters are horses. The animation is unique. Kind of. But the voice acting, themes, plots, etc etc etc, are all just a dime a thousand for kids shows. And there are tons of shows with way better Again, I am open minded and I personally have no problem with the MLP adult community, albeit again I don't quite understand. But it does come across at face value as super creepy to many non-pony-appreciating people out there, and rather than 'ignore the haters' or 'try to get people open their mind to comprehend what the show is about and what it means to you', it might be simpler to find a show that you can get your cute, fun fix from without ruining first impressions on a lot of closed minded people who honestly don't give a horse patty what reason you have, as a grown male, for watching a little girl's show. Especially when there is a stranger side of it with DAT FLANK related topics, if you know what I mean. Or pairings....of love interests......just.......weird. Obsessive. I'm sure you're okay with that word. Or you should be by now. I'm sure there are some relationships in your life that have been ruined or underdeveloped because people judge you based on this passion. You can call them closed minded, or you can reanalyze why you watch the show, and maybe consider not watching it if it causes people to form negative impressions of you? Just throwing ideas around. Just some opinions. I won't be partaking in the show again, zero interest. But maybe someone could give a bit of insight into your reasons for continuing past your first watchthrough to true bronydom? All respect to you for continuing to follow your passion in the light of judgmental thinking. But you don't actually ENJOY that persecution..... Do you? | ||
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nohbrows
United States653 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: Guys. This is my honest review of the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic show. I gave it the old college try. I have an open mind. To my family's confusion I watched the entire first season of MLP. Let me say up front that I "get" the show. It didn't take long. And I understand that there are values and principles instilled to kids from each episode. I am not going to sit here at criticize it in that regard at all. As a kid's show. A kid's show that is unarguably targeted toward little girls. As that show, I give it an A-. But for the life of me I simply cannot understand or accept bronyism. I really tried. I mean, I can understand how ANYONE regardless of age or gender can find the show appealing, the bright colors, the cutesy voices and songs, the varied themed personalities of the ponies. But for the life of me I cannot understand the obsession with the show by any male aged 14+. Can someone please help me understand that? There are THOUSANDS, literally thousands of kids cartoons from the last 30 years that you can be a 'fan of'. Many are funny. SO MANY teach positive lessons. Many are cute. Many have songs. Many have all of these. A small percentage of those are targeted toward little girls, with 90% female characters (with appearances of male characters as only a side act), and female specific themes (makeovers, sleepovers, dressing up, etc). This is the part I don't understand. Why do you focus on one such cartoon, when there are hundreds of others that will fit all the same categories that aren't female themed? The one that, to most people, will make you come off as having a realllllly creepy interest? I understand if you watched it with your little sister and you find the common topic that builds your relationship appealing. But then I don't understand why all your avatars, youtube searches, deviantarts, TL posts, etc. have anything to do with that? I get bandwagoneering. And I get rebellion against gender norms. If those are what bronyism is about, en masse, so be it. Is that your answer? Also, watching it, I realized from an adult perspective the show just really isn't that good. As I said before, for an 8 year old girl, I give it an A-. But everything about it was predictable and cookie cutter. There's always a pony or several left out of the group, or trying to fit in, or in conflict, or misunderstood, and must spend the entire episode trying to remedy the situation. The jokes weren't that funny. There's nothing novel or intersting in this show at all, except that the characters are horses. The animation is unique. Kind of. But the voice acting, themes, plots, etc etc etc, are all just a dime a thousand for kids shows. And there are tons of shows with way better Again, I am open minded and I personally have no problem with the MLP adult community, albeit again I don't quite understand. But it does come across at face value as super creepy to many non-pony-appreciating people out there, and rather than 'ignore the haters' or 'try to get people open their mind to comprehend what the show is about and what it means to you', it might be simpler to find a show that you can get your cute, fun fix from without ruining first impressions on a lot of closed minded people who honestly don't give a horse patty what reason you have, as a grown male, for watching a little girl's show. Especially when there is a stranger side of it with DAT FLANK related topics, if you know what I mean. Or pairings....of love interests......just.......weird. Obsessive. I'm sure you're okay with that word. Or you should be by now. I'm sure there are some relationships in your life that have been ruined or underdeveloped because people judge you based on this passion. You can call them closed minded, or you can reanalyze why you watch the show, and maybe consider not watching it if it causes people to form negative impressions of you? Just throwing ideas around. Just some opinions. I won't be partaking in the show again, zero interest. But maybe someone could give a bit of insight into your reasons for continuing past your first watchthrough to true bronydom? All respect to you for continuing to follow your passion in the light of judgmental thinking. But you don't actually ENJOY that persecution..... Do you? There seems to be a growing number of "I tried watching the show. Then I realized it wasn't my cup of tea so I decided to make a rather long post (by forum standards) why I didn't like and why I don't understand why grown men will follow the show with an obession that to outsider will look totally creepy and stuff so why do it?" posts lately. I mean, there seems to be a ton of back during the early days of the thread, but I am pretty sure that there was a reason behind the mod notice at the top of every. single. page of this thread and reading through your post a couple of times, it border lines on what the mod notice says NOT to do. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt, not go through your entire posting history to check if you are a troll, and respond to a couple of your questions and concerns raised in your post just to quell your curiosity. On there being shows that are better: The quality of a show is subjective. It isn't a hard cut science that has clearly defined criteria. In fact, many critiques that are published in respectable periodicals and the such spend a great deal of time defining how they are judging a show, indirectly or directly. As such, the show just appeals to us in a way that nothing else has appealed to us. Well, at least me anyways, but I am sure a lot of other bronies can attest to the same thing. I won't go into a long wall of text describing why I like the show, why a lot of us like the show, or why the show is good in our eyes. There has been a wealth of walls of text in the pages previous addressing many of your concerns, and it is also neatly packaged into one nice category in the original post. There are dozens of posts on this topic, so I suggest you read those if you are genuinely interested. Like I said, I like this show because it just has this appeal to me. From what I have gathered in the community, I am of the rarer sort (note the use of -er in that last word that denotes it as a relative term) who got hooked the instance they watched the first episode. I may be coming off as hostile, and perhaps that is because of the fact that I am in the process of writing two papers for my classes at the moment in the dead of night and my mind is in a "writing mode: on." But perhaps it also comes from the fact that it is geting quite tiring seeing posts like this in the thread, and then having people spend the next half page or so responding. You didn't like the show? You didn't get the whole concept of being a brony? That is great, but before you, or anyone else who has similar thoughts, decides to come into the post and tell us why they didn't like it, please keep in mind that you will be addressing the very fans of this show who have grown to love it and the community surrounding it. There is a mod post on the top of the thread for a reason. There are a bunch of posts linked in the OP about how people should stop hating on the show, etc. for a reason. So if you are interested in getting some answers, please go through the OP and read through the stories of those who have been in the community longer than I have, who follow the show and its fandom more than I do (I am a student with little time on my hands). edit: hitting the update button prematurely sucks. | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
You gave it more than a fair chance. I don't think anyone here can say exactly why they like it. We can attempt to rationalise it in terms of production, animation etc. - as you say, the show's execution for its target demographic is "A-" and thus better than almost every other attempt at a girls' show. And I can dismiss the pure bandwagoning, counter-culture, or fake appreciation explanations because they don't work. Those are not the main reasons although they probably introduced a lot of people to it (people watching their first episode to be ironic, then genuinely like it later on). I think part of it is the world-building, that allows escapism. The TL kind of person is probably into a whole collection of sci-fi or anime series because of the power of imagination, that it created a very consistent world to tell stories in. The expression of this is in the fan content: I have never seen so much quality fanart, fanmusic, fanfiction, comics, near-professional fangames in such a short time, and it must be because the show's premise and characters are so well defined as to inspire people to do all that. "Being" a brony as opposed to a show watcher pretty much means engaging with all that fan content (personally, 1/2 of my MP3 player is pony-inspired music). Shipping etc is something people can do if they want to, but I wouldn't say it's more common here than in anime or videogame or other fan groups, it's just a consequence of following show relationships closely. The show is indeed predictable. We are not watching for the plot. We are watching to see what else they can do with the world they created. Also I think it is an outlet where people can admit it's OK to like cute things and that there are reasonably normal other people who do as well. Our society, as you say, is completely against males liking female-oriented content featuring cuteness and relationships/feelings, but there are clearly plenty who actually do like that. We can't choose what we like either, it's a function of our biology. Doing things because other people want you to (like stopping watching) is one of the worst things anyone can do for themselves. If you like something, no matter the stigma or popularity, carry on following it. Anyone who would react extremely negatively to that is not a true friend. Oh and I disagree the jokes aren't funny. @nohbrows I'm undecided on whether it's a troll post. | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
Same argument as usual what might others think of you yada yada yada. If I lived my entire life the way others would want me to I would live a pretty boring life. You like starcraft right? You know there's still a lot of people who think that a grown man playing video games is a 40 year old acne ridden virgin who lives in his mom's basement because he's too socially awkward to ever go outside. And how wrong they are. I love metal. Sure there's some people who think I'm a psychopath killer because I like distorted guitars and black shirts with prints on 'em. Well those people are all idiots. The only thing that's worse is listening to em and letting them "control" what you should like and dislike. ps. the voice acting is stellar. | ||
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FnF
Finland200 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: But for the life of me I simply cannot understand or accept bronyism. I really tried. I mean, I can understand how ANYONE regardless of age or gender can find the show appealing, the bright colors, the cutesy voices and songs, the varied themed personalities of the ponies. But for the life of me I cannot understand the obsession with the show by any male aged 14+. Can someone please help me understand that? There are THOUSANDS, literally thousands of kids cartoons from the last 30 years that you can be a 'fan of'. Many are funny. SO MANY teach positive lessons. Many are cute. Many have songs. Many have all of these. A small percentage of those are targeted toward little girls, with 90% female characters (with appearances of male characters as only a side act), and female specific themes (makeovers, sleepovers, dressing up, etc). This is the part I don't understand. Why do you focus on one such cartoon, when there are hundreds of others that will fit all the same categories that aren't female themed? There's your fateful slip. We're not some anomalous demographic that gravitates towards soft stuff. We're not even a separate demographic at all, and don't care for songs or positive lessons any more than you do. The bells and whistles enjoy the appeal they do as parts of the show itself, not the other way around. On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: Also, watching it, I realized from an adult perspective the show just really isn't that good. As I said before, for an 8 year old girl, I give it an A-. But everything about it was predictable and cookie cutter. There's always a pony or several left out of the group, or trying to fit in, or in conflict, or misunderstood, and must spend the entire episode trying to remedy the situation. The jokes weren't that funny. There's nothing novel or intersting in this show at all, except that the characters are horses. The animation is unique. Kind of. But the voice acting, themes, plots, etc etc etc, are all just a dime a thousand for kids shows. And there are tons of shows with way better You don't get to make up rules for what doesn't follow any. There isn't some entity that gauges raw production values and distributes audience accordingly. Still, I'll bite; What shows do you have in mind, and why should we care about them? | ||
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Klyberess
Sweden345 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: Again, I am open minded and I personally have no problem with the MLP adult community On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: But for the life of me I simply cannot understand or accept bronyism. >open minded >cannot accept someone liking a show you don't >mind blown | ||
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FnF
Finland200 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: Obsessive. I'm sure you're okay with that word. Or you should be by now. I'm sure there are some relationships in your life that have been ruined or underdeveloped because people judge you based on this passion. You can call them closed minded, or you can reanalyze why you watch the show, and maybe consider not watching it if it causes people to form negative impressions of you? Just throwing ideas around. Just some opinions. I won't be partaking in the show again, zero interest. But maybe someone could give a bit of insight into your reasons for continuing past your first watchthrough to true bronydom? All respect to you for continuing to follow your passion in the light of judgmental thinking. But you don't actually ENJOY that persecution..... Do you? It's a TV program. You're trying to stitch together a sociological analysis of judgement and persecution over a TV program. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: I gave it the old college try. I have an open mind. To my family's confusion I watched the entire first season of MLP. Let me say up front that I "get" the show. It didn't take long. And I understand that there are values and principles instilled to kids from each episode. I am not going to sit here at criticize it in that regard at all. As a kid's show. A kid's show that is unarguably targeted toward little girls. As that show, I give it an A-. Also, watching it, I realized from an adult perspective the show just really isn't that good. As I said before, for an 8 year old girl, I give it an A-. But everything about it was predictable and cookie cutter. There's always a pony or several left out of the group, or trying to fit in, or in conflict, or misunderstood, and must spend the entire episode trying to remedy the situation. The jokes weren't that funny. There's nothing novel or intersting in this show at all, except that the characters are horses. The animation is unique. Kind of. But the voice acting, themes, plots, etc etc etc, are all just a dime a thousand for kids shows. And there are tons of shows with way better I beg to disagree. I've gone into this before. Anyway at the end of the day, no show has any "real" original plot lines, because there is a limited amount of possible plots, and they all end up fitting into a specific set of archetypes, its just the nature of the beast. MLP does it better than, many, many shows. On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: But for the life of me I simply cannot understand or accept bronyism. I really tried. I mean, I can understand how ANYONE regardless of age or gender can find the show appealing, the bright colors, the cutesy voices and songs, the varied themed personalities of the ponies. But for the life of me I cannot understand the obsession with the show by any male aged 14+. Can someone please help me understand that? There are THOUSANDS, literally thousands of kids cartoons from the last 30 years that you can be a 'fan of'. Many are funny. SO MANY teach positive lessons. Many are cute. Many have songs. Many have all of these. A small percentage of those are targeted toward little girls, with 90% female characters (with appearances of male characters as only a side act), and female specific themes (makeovers, sleepovers, dressing up, etc). This is the part I don't understand. Why do you focus on one such cartoon, when there are hundreds of others that will fit all the same categories that aren't female themed? The one that, to most people, will make you come off as having a realllllly creepy interest? Dude, you are on a website about SC2, where guys spend hours watching young korean teenagers playing a videogame online, where there is a thread devoted to showing of the body of one of these teenagers, and where several pieces of fan fiction have been written about idra. There are thousands of hobbies from the last 30 years you could enjoy, many involve armies clashing, many involve amazing displays of skill, , many require deft strategic thought, many have all of these. Why do you focus on one game, when there are hundreds of others that won't make others stereotype you quite as much? Hell, you can make the same arguments about religion, about food choices and about political views, in the end, it comes down to this, its a personal choice. We choose to like ponies because its something we enjoy, because its something that has brought out insane amounts of passion in some people, and at the very least given joy to most of us. That alone makes it better than those thousands of cartoons. This one brought me joy, not any of the others, why would I ditch it just because "oh, no, others might think I'm creepy!". Again, I am open minded and I personally have no problem with the MLP adult community, albeit again I don't quite understand. But it does come across at face value as super creepy to many non-pony-appreciating people out there, and rather than 'ignore the haters' or 'try to get people open their mind to comprehend what the show is about and what it means to you', it might be simpler to find a show that you can get your cute, fun fix from without ruining first impressions on a lot of closed minded people who honestly don't give a horse patty what reason you have, as a grown male, for watching a little girl's show. Especially when there is a stranger side of it with DAT FLANK related topics, if you know what I mean. Or pairings....of love interests......just.......weird. Obsessive. I'm sure you're okay with that word. Or you should be by now. I'm sure there are some relationships in your life that have been ruined or underdeveloped because people judge you based on this passion. You can call them closed minded, or you can reanalyze why you watch the show, and maybe consider not watching it if it causes people to form negative impressions of you? Just throwing ideas around. There are strange people everywhere, there is a nada's body thread on TL, there are, if you care to search, at least four or five progamer fanfics, TL is full of eccentric, and sometimes downright odd people. Every community has them, it just so happens that the MLP community has its share of furries, and that is more than ok, if you find them distasteful, you ignore their 'interests' and that is that. You don't change your religious beliefs simply because people might judge you for it, right? Or what kind of food you enjoy, or your political beliefs, why then, should I have to change what shows I watch? Close minded people exist everywhere, and people will *always* find ways to judge them. If there is one lesson to learn in life its that you have to be true to yourself, not to the idea other have of you. So yes, I'm not going to quit something innocuous I enjoy to please some ridiculous notion of what it is appropriate for me to watch. What you are proposing is ridiculous. Vegans are going to judge you negatively for eating meat! You should quit, rather than having them form a negative opinion of you! I mean come on, its not *that* important to you, right? No one "enjoys" prosecution, but the brony community isn't really prosecuted, just judged unfairly sometimes. In the end it doesn't matter, I long ago gave up changing myself so that I could be "accepted". In the end, that's just a way of killing yourself without really dying. If others judge me, so be it, there will always be those willing to defer judgement, and those are the people worth knowing. | ||
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: Guys. This is my honest review of the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic show. I gave it the old college try. I have an open mind. To my family's confusion I watched the entire first season of MLP. Let me say up front that I "get" the show. It didn't take long. And I understand that there are values and principles instilled to kids from each episode. I am not going to sit here at criticize it in that regard at all. As a kid's show. A kid's show that is unarguably targeted toward little girls. As that show, I give it an A-. But for the life of me I simply cannot understand or accept bronyism. I really tried. I mean, I can understand how ANYONE regardless of age or gender can find the show appealing, the bright colors, the cutesy voices and songs, the varied themed personalities of the ponies. But for the life of me I cannot understand the obsession with the show by any male aged 14+. Can someone please help me understand that? There are THOUSANDS, literally thousands of kids cartoons from the last 30 years that you can be a 'fan of'. Many are funny. SO MANY teach positive lessons. Many are cute. Many have songs. Many have all of these. A small percentage of those are targeted toward little girls, with 90% female characters (with appearances of male characters as only a side act), and female specific themes (makeovers, sleepovers, dressing up, etc). This is the part I don't understand. Why do you focus on one such cartoon, when there are hundreds of others that will fit all the same categories that aren't female themed? The one that, to most people, will make you come off as having a realllllly creepy interest? I understand if you watched it with your little sister and you find the common topic that builds your relationship appealing. But then I don't understand why all your avatars, youtube searches, deviantarts, TL posts, etc. have anything to do with that? I get bandwagoneering. And I get rebellion against gender norms. If those are what bronyism is about, en masse, so be it. Is that your answer? Also, watching it, I realized from an adult perspective the show just really isn't that good. As I said before, for an 8 year old girl, I give it an A-. But everything about it was predictable and cookie cutter. There's always a pony or several left out of the group, or trying to fit in, or in conflict, or misunderstood, and must spend the entire episode trying to remedy the situation. The jokes weren't that funny. There's nothing novel or intersting in this show at all, except that the characters are horses. The animation is unique. Kind of. But the voice acting, themes, plots, etc etc etc, are all just a dime a thousand for kids shows. And there are tons of shows with way better Again, I am open minded and I personally have no problem with the MLP adult community, albeit again I don't quite understand. But it does come across at face value as super creepy to many non-pony-appreciating people out there, and rather than 'ignore the haters' or 'try to get people open their mind to comprehend what the show is about and what it means to you', it might be simpler to find a show that you can get your cute, fun fix from without ruining first impressions on a lot of closed minded people who honestly don't give a horse patty what reason you have, as a grown male, for watching a little girl's show. Especially when there is a stranger side of it with DAT FLANK related topics, if you know what I mean. Or pairings....of love interests......just.......weird. Obsessive. I'm sure you're okay with that word. Or you should be by now. I'm sure there are some relationships in your life that have been ruined or underdeveloped because people judge you based on this passion. You can call them closed minded, or you can reanalyze why you watch the show, and maybe consider not watching it if it causes people to form negative impressions of you? Just throwing ideas around. Just some opinions. I won't be partaking in the show again, zero interest. But maybe someone could give a bit of insight into your reasons for continuing past your first watchthrough to true bronydom? All respect to you for continuing to follow your passion in the light of judgmental thinking. But you don't actually ENJOY that persecution..... Do you? Well to be honest I don't think there are many other shows that are just like this, that have the same sense of humor and cute characters (i.e. fluttershy). I think it would be helpful if you could name some, because I don't really know of any other childrens shows that I could compare to this one. That's really the main factor that pulls me in, I find the show quite funny and adorable. Plus some of the episodes actually have a pretty cool plot, like when that Trogdor-like monster voiced by John de Lancie (Q on Star Trek) made the world chaotic and evil. About the 'obsessive' paragraph...firstly I wouldn't say I'm obsessed with my little pony. I find it just as amusing as watching a game of SC2; something that I truly enjoy. Is making gifs about it the mark of obsession? I would contend that. I don't think anyone here is truly obsessed in the sense of being addicted to the show, and walking around the house dressed as their favourite pony and things of that nature. Making art work, joining servers (virtual cosplay), or buying your favorite pony is just an indicator that people enjoy the characters in the show, nothing more. Obsession to me would be like an addiction. But even if you could view this type of enjoyment as an obsession, I don't think anyone is prejudiced enough that they would stop being friends with you because you watch a kids TV show; I would think friendship is a bit more than that. Same with relationships; if the person truly loves you, then I can't see a TV show being the cause of the breakup; and if it was I can't imagine the relationship being very strong in the first place. And lastly of course I don't enjoy being persecuted  . Maybe a small fraction of a percent do, but the answer is entirely what you'd expect and what you've already written: "All respect to you for continuing to follow your passion in the light of judgmental thinking" | ||
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Camail
United States1030 Posts
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FnF
Finland200 Posts
On February 06 2012 23:57 Camail wrote: I think we have sufficiently answered this question enough times when asked in this matter, can we please just have a set of links one person can reply with so that we don't feel the need to spend so much time replying to people who can't allow us to like a god show? I'm all for getting to 500 pages...but we don't need to defend ourselves anymore. At least not in here. The problem with answers generic enough to be copy-pasted is that they just end up as white noise. The type of post you're seeking to address is looking for something else entirely. Telling someone who's already of the opinion that the show is bad that "The show is good" accomplishes nothing. | ||
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Klyberess
Sweden345 Posts
On February 06 2012 20:49 StarStrider wrote: Just some opinions. I won't be partaking in the show again, zero interest. But maybe someone could give a bit of insight into your reasons for continuing past your first watchthrough to true bronydom? All respect to you for continuing to follow your passion in the light of judgmental thinking. But you don't actually ENJOY that persecution..... Do you? For starters, that's an incredibly problematic word choice. definition of persecute + Show Spoiler + persecute 1. to pursue with harassing or oppressive treatment, especially because of religion, race, or beliefs; harass persistently. 2. to annoy or trouble persistently. I am not persistently harassed, annoyed or troubled because I (openly) like MLP:FIM, and I don't think many are. You seem to be implicitly arguing that we must either (a) renounce our fandom of the show, or (b) stoically ignore the persistent harassment. The problem with this is that we are not persecuted. If you were interested in honest discussion, you would have written that we must either (x) renounce our fandom of the show, or (y) accept the fact that some people are judgmental and will judge us. Note the lack of passive-aggressiveness. But that wouldn't convince anyone, would it? People judge other people all the time by their speech, clothes, ethnicity, sexuality, music preferences, height, weight, gender, hair color, etcetera. Your argument would be relevant if we were trying to win a popularity contest, and would thus want to maximize our popularity with the general population. But there are good reasons not to live life as if it were curling, or politics (closest to the middle wins). It would also be relevant if we were actually risking persecution, but we're not. You repeatedly assert that you are open-minded, won't judge us, etcetera. However, the consistent passive-aggressiveness prevalent throughout your post implies that this is a lie. This "Look, I'm not judging" excuse for judging someone is quite common. It is, for example, a tactic commonly used by religious fundamentalists: "I don't mind homosexuals, not at all, but they should remember that homosexuality is a sin. God hates fags. So if you don't want to burn in hell for eternity, maybe you should deny your sexuality. For your own sake, of course." It seems to me that you DO want to judge, but would rather make it seem like you do not. | ||
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Lynda
649 Posts
There are THOUSANDS, literally thousands of kids cartoons from the last 30 years that you can be a 'fan of'. But while those failed to actually make me feel happy, this one did. That on its own would be a good enough reason for me to continue on watching. And the fan community just happens to be one of the nicer communities, if not the nicest one I've ever been a part of. I talked with Cane on IRC a while ago about how it might have not been a coincidence that this community has become so huge in a relatively short time. There might've been a general, subconscious need for many of us to be part of a nice community, and it took a cleverly written show with no cynicism/negativism in it to gather us. If another very positive and innocent show was created before MLP:FIM, then perhaps the fanbase of that one would've become this huge instead. I, for one, am glad that it was ponies of all things that made this happen first. edit: I agree with Camail, let's move on. Let's post some ponies! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VDOcL.jpg) | ||
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Sermokala
United States13799 Posts
![[image loading]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SSzCmgMMxcA/Ty8JbdffcxI/AAAAAAAAdyM/U-R84WgrMy4/s1600/125774+-+artist+saturnspace+derpy_hooves+Doctor_Whooves+half.png) This is you and the show. Embrace is and enjoy the happiness. | ||
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