EPTOn February 04 2012 00:12 Hober wrote:
True, but we are the primary buying force for their products.
True, but we are the primary buying force for their products.
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GypsyBeast
Canada630 Posts
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FnF
Finland200 Posts
On February 04 2012 01:20 Aylear wrote: They've universally stated that it was not the episode's intent, and that they were sorry that they failed as writers and producers in conveying the actual essence. They only "failed" because they let the loaded wordings poison everything around them. There's really nothing more to it. | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
I assume Challonge > Liquipedia in precedence? How will dropouts/replacements work on the day? | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
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nohbrows
United States653 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:37 Paperplane wrote: Sneak peak of the new episode up on equestria daily. I can already tell it will be the best episode ever. Again! Edit: I made an unnecessary and brainless comment that comes off as rude. | ||
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On February 04 2012 07:37 Paperplane wrote: Sneak peak of the new episode up on equestria daily. I can already tell it will be the best episode ever. Again! I can already see the fanfics + Show Spoiler + Even MORE about Dash's wings being broken, and about the cast going "into" books as shown in the scene. | ||
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kastoob
Australia153 Posts
Still don't like the episode. There is no reason as to why Twilight should just give up. No reason she shouldn't find an explanation. Throughout the episode I was getting the vibe that Twilight investigating Pinkie was a bad thing to do. It was undermining curiosity and scientific inquiry. A scientist can still accept the photoelectric effect, doesn't make sense if light is supposedly a wave, but its happening. But the physicists didn't just give up and just say 'well I guess shit happens'. They did more research. Turns out light behaves like a particle sometimes. Knowledge of mankind expanded. This is my initial reaction, without thinking too deeply into it. | ||
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dranko
Sweden378 Posts
Was this posted? Everyone needs to see it. | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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Hober
United States10 Posts
Here you go. http://www.oregonlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2011/09/seriously_my_little_pony_grown.html Since the viewership is mostly males in their late teens and early 20's, at least they are according to the article (by stating that "[M]onthly viewership -- which was 1.4 million a month in November -- nearly tripled to 4 million by the end of the first season.), it stand to reason that most of the people who want to buy these products are those same people. And since most of them will have a larger disposable income than a small child, and have the means to get to a store and access the internet to purchase items, it stands to reason that we are the primary consumers of their various products. | ||
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Anarion55
United States72 Posts
On February 04 2012 11:26 Hober wrote: Here you go. http://www.oregonlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2011/09/seriously_my_little_pony_grown.html Since the viewership is mostly males in their late teens and early 20's, at least they are according to the article (by stating that "[M]onthly viewership -- which was 1.4 million a month in November -- nearly tripled to 4 million by the end of the first season.), it stand to reason that most of the people who want to buy these products are those same people. And since most of them will have a larger disposable income than a small child, and have the means to get to a store and access the internet to purchase items, it stands to reason that we are the primary consumers of their various products. Few problems. First, bronies tend not to buy directly from Hasbro. Yes, people do buy the pony toys, but there is a huge market in customs, plushes, and t-shirts etc. for a reason. So all of brony disposable income is not necessarily going to Hasbro products. Second, little kids have lots of disposable income. Their parents buy them toys all the time, over the holidays, and the power of whining can be quite strong. Compare that with the fact that many bronies are high school or college students and I'd say it's actually quite difficult to compare which demographic has the better disposable income. Third, plenty of bronies watch the show but aren't public about their interest in MLP, or at least keep it to forums. None of those people are going to buy any Hasbro products, at least for the foreseeable future. | ||
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rbx270j
Canada540 Posts
On February 04 2012 11:22 Soleron wrote: SHED.MOV (NSFW) + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH-yA8U2XgI not as good as apples or dress, imho. | ||
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GypsyBeast
Canada630 Posts
On February 04 2012 11:31 Anarion55 wrote: Few problems. First, bronies tend not to buy directly from Hasbro. Yes, people do buy the pony toys, but there is a huge market in customs, plushes, and t-shirts etc. for a reason. So all of brony disposable income is not necessarily going to Hasbro products. Second, little kids have lots of disposable income. Their parents buy them toys all the time, over the holidays, and the power of whining can be quite strong. Compare that with the fact that many bronies are high school or college students and I'd say it's actually quite difficult to compare which demographic has the better disposable income. Third, plenty of bronies watch the show but aren't public about their interest in MLP, or at least keep it to forums. None of those people are going to buy any Hasbro products, at least for the foreseeable future. Ya that about sums up what I was going to say. This artical says nothing about products anyways. I do think that the poeple with these very extensive pony toy collection are just a very verbal and very proud minority, I don't think that the merchandisin from bronies is making them that much money. I guess I can't say for sure as I don't have the numbers, I'm still waiting for EQD to do a deep census :p Also I have a problem with thoses veiwership numbers, it seems like you were assuming that the growth was solely from bronies. Kids shows don't have the same veiwership patterns as adult shows do, kid shows viewerships are a steady incline as word of the show and the show it self spreads, so I would wager that a lot of the new veiwership is from the target market. Also SHED.MOV sucked IMO, the only thing I laughed at was "WELCOME TO PONYVILLE FAGGOT" | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On February 03 2012 20:43 kastoob wrote: First episode Celestia doesn't heed twilights warnings and guess what nightmare moon returns. Also another episode with pinkie's twitchy tail. I think the lesson learnt was to 'just believe in things'. As a physics student this lesson just pissed me off. It's a horrible lesson to tell a child in general. We should encourage curiosity and question asking, investigating, research! We can then publish/share our findings and spread the knowledge. Just believing in things we cant explain held back science. The drive to find an explanation for everything, and then using that knowledge puts us at the most powerful species on this planet. 1.) Actually, if you watch the end of episode 2 closely, you see Celestia explain that the entire reason she sent Twilight to make friends is because she knew it was the only way to stop nightmare moon when she came back with the elements of harmony. It wasn't Celestia just dissing hard studying as being anti-social, she knew Twilight was perfect for the job because of her qualified intellect and studious habits. 2.) It's not so much "we should just believe in things without questioning them", the whole questioning aspect was emphasized very well by Twilight. The point was on the idea that not everything isn't always going to be explainable and sometimes we just have to recognize that there are things beyond human understanding. The evidence at hand was confirmation after confirmation that Pinkie Pie was actually able to predict said events which would incline one scientifically to accept it as probably true, even if there was no theoretical framework with which one could explain how it worked (however getting into that is far beyond a kids show, let alone any entertainment show). In fact, it takes a somewhat anti-positivism stance which if anything is closer to modern day science which on average has rejected the positivist idea of human knowledge, which means some things really are going to be beyond the scope of science. It's a fantasy kids show not an adult sci-fi, every unexplained occurrence isn't a slap in the face of science just because they don't offer a quasi-scientific explanation for it. It doesn't make it "supernatural" either, they actually portray magic as being very scientific in a way because it's a fantasy show. I think you're reading too much into subliminal messages on this one but your criticisms aren't exactly unexpected. When I first watched this episode I was thinking "oh man some atheists people are gonna hate this and think it's endorsing faith over science". I just don't think it's really putting them against each other like that, and they aren't incompatible with each other either, a lot of science involved and in a way still involves a certain degree of faith, or at least good-sense guessing in which one must have faith to go out on a limb to make the guesstimation (been reading some Collins/Pinch lately on their Scientific Golem book going through how often the results of science historically aren't necessarily reached by purely rational/empirical means yet still lead to what we accept today as the correct theory while ironically in a few cases if they had been purely rational/empirical at the time they would have reached the wrong conclusion). | ||
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Hober
United States10 Posts
On February 04 2012 11:31 Anarion55 wrote: Few problems. First, bronies tend not to buy directly from Hasbro. Yes, people do buy the pony toys, but there is a huge market in customs, plushes, and t-shirts etc. for a reason. So all of brony disposable income is not necessarily going to Hasbro products. Second, little kids have lots of disposable income. Their parents buy them toys all the time, over the holidays, and the power of whining can be quite strong. Compare that with the fact that many bronies are high school or college students and I'd say it's actually quite difficult to compare which demographic has the better disposable income. Third, plenty of bronies watch the show but aren't public about their interest in MLP, or at least keep it to forums. None of those people are going to buy any Hasbro products, at least for the foreseeable future. Wait, seriously? Parents just buy their kids toys when they whine? Mine would just say "stop whining". You make many good points though. I'm mostly a bit surprised because even I've bought a few things, and I barely buy anything that isn't a really big book, so I assumed that most bought a lot more than I since that's how people seem to work with everything else. Plus I can never find the blind bags, so somebody out there is getting them before me. On February 04 2012 12:45 GypsyBeast wrote: Ya that about sums up what I was going to say. This artical says nothing about products anyways. I do think that the poeple with these very extensive pony toy collection are just a very verbal and very proud minority, I don't think that the merchandisin from bronies is making them that much money. I guess I can't say for sure as I don't have the numbers, I'm still waiting for EQD to do a deep census :p Also I have a problem with thoses veiwership numbers, it seems like you were assuming that the growth was solely from bronies. Kids shows don't have the same veiwership patterns as adult shows do, kid shows viewerships are a steady incline as word of the show and the show it self spreads, so I would wager that a lot of the new veiwership is from the target market. I concede the argument. Good show sir. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On a lighter note: ![[image loading]](http://th09.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/034/1/a/humanized_mlp_character_sheet_by_glancojusticar-d4ojb59.jpg) | ||
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Lynda
649 Posts
anyway I like how motivating ponies can be during an exam session, knowing that after I'm done with my exams, I can feel like I've earned watching the next episode on Saturday speaking of which, only 8 and a half more hours! and I can tell this one has the potential to be one of the best ones yet based on the synopsis also those humanized characters in the above post look pretty awesome | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On February 04 2012 15:25 Squarewalker wrote: I'm absent for 2 days only to come back to find so much e-drama :/ That's why you never leave the internet; you might come back to something like this: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/d0xq5.jpg) | ||
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GypsyBeast
Canada630 Posts
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