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lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
August 02 2011 18:19 GMT
#261
Anyone care to read my post on the problem with Jesse? I'm quite confused, I cant remember them explaining that in anyway.
uGoatt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States85 Posts
August 02 2011 19:19 GMT
#262
On August 02 2011 08:49 Pitto wrote:
anyone else hate skylar with a passion?


god yes and i always have. she is unattractive and i hate her attitude and her mannerisms. I started hating her when she started being a bitch to walt when they were split up.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 02 2011 19:35 GMT
#263
On August 03 2011 03:14 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:20 HolyArrow wrote:
Anyone feel like Walt is being a bit too careless? The champagne thing wasn't a big deal, but I found it kind of strange that someone as methodical and careful as Walt would change his mind about the carwash thing just because the owner talked shit about him. Seriously, laundering money is serious business, and Saul was right about how you shouldn't take things personally. Seems like they went for some comedy at the sacrifice of Walt staying in character. One could argue that it's an example of Walt subtly changing (becoming more wild, I guess), but eh...

Walt's had some sort of masculine inferiority complex going on throughout the entire show. Ever since season 1, when Elliott (successful business friend) offers to pay for all of Walt's medical bills. Walt is obsessed about being the man, being the provider, so much so that he'd risk everything to keep his ego satisfied.


Ah yes, that is a good point.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24805 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 19:41:43
August 02 2011 19:41 GMT
#264
I watched basically the whole series from start to this past week's episode over the past few weeks... and the part that stands out for me the most is...

+ Show Spoiler +
When Walter gets mad and throws the pizza up on the roof. I don't know why but I was cracking up so much after that.


Looking forward to next episode.
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
August 02 2011 19:45 GMT
#265
On August 03 2011 03:14 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:20 HolyArrow wrote:
Anyone feel like Walt is being a bit too careless? The champagne thing wasn't a big deal, but I found it kind of strange that someone as methodical and careful as Walt would change his mind about the carwash thing just because the owner talked shit about him. Seriously, laundering money is serious business, and Saul was right about how you shouldn't take things personally. Seems like they went for some comedy at the sacrifice of Walt staying in character. One could argue that it's an example of Walt subtly changing (becoming more wild, I guess), but eh...

Walt's had some sort of masculine inferiority complex going on throughout the entire show. Ever since season 1, when Elliott (successful business friend) offers to pay for all of Walt's medical bills. Walt is obsessed about being the man, being the provider, so much so that he'd risk everything to keep his ego satisfied.


I don't like calling it an inferiority complex. I think Walter White suffers from the tragic flaw of pride. He's basically like Macbeth or Frankenstein - in fact, Skylar is kind of like an early Lady Macbeth. Anyways, he does have that obsession with providing, the scene with Gus telling Walter what a man is: "A man provides." was really great.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
August 02 2011 19:56 GMT
#266
On August 03 2011 04:45 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 03:14 dudeman001 wrote:
On August 02 2011 14:20 HolyArrow wrote:
Anyone feel like Walt is being a bit too careless? The champagne thing wasn't a big deal, but I found it kind of strange that someone as methodical and careful as Walt would change his mind about the carwash thing just because the owner talked shit about him. Seriously, laundering money is serious business, and Saul was right about how you shouldn't take things personally. Seems like they went for some comedy at the sacrifice of Walt staying in character. One could argue that it's an example of Walt subtly changing (becoming more wild, I guess), but eh...

Walt's had some sort of masculine inferiority complex going on throughout the entire show. Ever since season 1, when Elliott (successful business friend) offers to pay for all of Walt's medical bills. Walt is obsessed about being the man, being the provider, so much so that he'd risk everything to keep his ego satisfied.


I don't like calling it an inferiority complex. I think Walter White suffers from the tragic flaw of pride. He's basically like Macbeth or Frankenstein - in fact, Skylar is kind of like an early Lady Macbeth. Anyways, he does have that obsession with providing, the scene with Gus telling Walter what a man is: "A man provides." was really great.

Yeah you're right, inferiority complex was a poor choice of words on my part.
Sup.
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
August 02 2011 20:00 GMT
#267
On August 02 2011 14:53 lizzard_warish wrote:
Has there been any explanation about Jesse's money..? I mean as far as I'm aware hes not money laundering, and considering hes known by the police to be a hanger-on with drug dealers and druggies [and its been implied hes had at least minor run ins with the law], and the degree of money hes spending etc- how is he not mega suspicious? On top of already pointed out flaws with the whole skylar/walt bit... seems like theres a ton of plot holes this season. That or a lot of things walt/jesse have failed to look at do to hubris, which will bite them in the ass. Specially' if hanks involvement becomes the big thing we have all, im sure, speculated it will be since season 1.

So, if he's making mistakes (he obviously doesn't care), that means there's a plot hole?
DEA wouldn't bust on him as soon as he spent a few bucks, anyway. They want to catch as many as they can, as high up the chain as possible. Them locking him up prematurely would be a mistake.

You can add to that that Hank is not working currently, so we don't see what's going on in DEA.
(Neither Hank, nor his cop friend who appeared in the last episode know what's new in DEA, either.)
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 20:35:15
August 02 2011 20:17 GMT
#268
On August 03 2011 05:00 Spidinko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 14:53 lizzard_warish wrote:
Has there been any explanation about Jesse's money..? I mean as far as I'm aware hes not money laundering, and considering hes known by the police to be a hanger-on with drug dealers and druggies [and its been implied hes had at least minor run ins with the law], and the degree of money hes spending etc- how is he not mega suspicious? On top of already pointed out flaws with the whole skylar/walt bit... seems like theres a ton of plot holes this season. That or a lot of things walt/jesse have failed to look at do to hubris, which will bite them in the ass. Specially' if hanks involvement becomes the big thing we have all, im sure, speculated it will be since season 1.

So, if he's making mistakes (he obviously doesn't care), that means there's a plot hole?
DEA wouldn't bust on him as soon as he spent a few bucks, anyway. They want to catch as many as they can, as high up the chain as possible. Them locking him up prematurely would be a mistake.

You can add to that that Hank is not working currently, so we don't see what's going on in DEA.
(Neither Hank, nor his cop friend who appeared in the last episode know what's new in DEA, either.)
No, the plot hole is that neither Walt nor Gus nor saul nor anyone else who knows Jesse has even made a passing reference to concerns over his financial situation. Yet on the flip Gus was clearly ready to murder Jesse precisely due to his instability. Conveniently he has never voiced concerns or pushed for more reasonable behaviour in quite honestly the most needed area, not having an unemployed ex drug dealer buying houses, expensive things, all the while hes not even taking in unemployment [as far as we are aware]. Its either a plot hole or something thats going to blow up in jesse and walts face very very big.
teser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 20:30:38
August 02 2011 20:27 GMT
#269
On August 02 2011 05:38 Nizaris wrote:
There is no way they bought the carwash in their name with drug money. Some off-shore company probably did, wouldn't that make it easier to launder money ? Anyways i hope they explain more about it cuz right now it sounds strange. Paying Hank's medical bills sounds more traceable. However I think she was right about the Champagne. Its the little things that WILL fuck you.

I wonder how Jesse is gonna recover. Right now it looks like he might just get himself killed but they can't kill their 'lead' actor.

Finally getting into the Lab Notes thing, about time things start heating up!

I'm lovin this season.

Pretty sure they said in an earlier episode that the money to buy the car wash was going to be from Walt's one time "gambling winnings" that Saul was going to pay off some casino guys to make it seem more legitimate. Also I think the medical bills falls under that same category.

The only part that confuses me is that in this last episode Skyler seemed super paranoid about Walt spending money because she want's to appear poor, which just doesn't make sense to me if they're trying to play off this whole casino winnings thing at the same time.

Also I hope Hank either start's improving at a much faster pace, or takes a turn for the worst because I really can't stand his character right now.
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
August 03 2011 21:31 GMT
#270
On August 03 2011 05:17 lizzard_warish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 05:00 Spidinko wrote:
On August 02 2011 14:53 lizzard_warish wrote:
Has there been any explanation about Jesse's money..? I mean as far as I'm aware hes not money laundering, and considering hes known by the police to be a hanger-on with drug dealers and druggies [and its been implied hes had at least minor run ins with the law], and the degree of money hes spending etc- how is he not mega suspicious? On top of already pointed out flaws with the whole skylar/walt bit... seems like theres a ton of plot holes this season. That or a lot of things walt/jesse have failed to look at do to hubris, which will bite them in the ass. Specially' if hanks involvement becomes the big thing we have all, im sure, speculated it will be since season 1.

So, if he's making mistakes (he obviously doesn't care), that means there's a plot hole?
DEA wouldn't bust on him as soon as he spent a few bucks, anyway. They want to catch as many as they can, as high up the chain as possible. Them locking him up prematurely would be a mistake.

You can add to that that Hank is not working currently, so we don't see what's going on in DEA.
(Neither Hank, nor his cop friend who appeared in the last episode know what's new in DEA, either.)
No, the plot hole is that neither Walt nor Gus nor saul nor anyone else who knows Jesse has even made a passing reference to concerns over his financial situation. Yet on the flip Gus was clearly ready to murder Jesse precisely due to his instability. Conveniently he has never voiced concerns or pushed for more reasonable behaviour in quite honestly the most needed area, not having an unemployed ex drug dealer buying houses, expensive things, all the while hes not even taking in unemployment [as far as we are aware]. Its either a plot hole or something thats going to blow up in jesse and walts face very very big.

..
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 03 2011 22:04 GMT
#271
On August 03 2011 04:19 uGoatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 08:49 Pitto wrote:
anyone else hate skylar with a passion?


god yes and i always have. she is unattractive and i hate her attitude and her mannerisms. I started hating her when she started being a bitch to walt when they were split up.


Yep. And she gained like 25lbs since last season. That character really ruffles my jimmies.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 22:09:39
August 03 2011 22:09 GMT
#272
i want to bone skyler like whoa... you guys have sick, twisted views of how women should look.

Maybe my memory is bad, why the hell are jesse and walt so rich still? Why is gus still paying them again?

ep 3 = best one yet this season

PharaohLarry
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada70 Posts
August 04 2011 04:56 GMT
#273
On August 04 2011 07:09 ToxNub wrote:
i want to bone skyler like whoa...



-_-

dude really? lol, the last ep she was pretty bad ass though =D

I think Walt and Jesse are still getting paid, cuz they are the only ones who can cook the meth perfectly
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
August 04 2011 05:11 GMT
#274
On August 03 2011 05:17 lizzard_warish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 05:00 Spidinko wrote:
On August 02 2011 14:53 lizzard_warish wrote:
Has there been any explanation about Jesse's money..? I mean as far as I'm aware hes not money laundering, and considering hes known by the police to be a hanger-on with drug dealers and druggies [and its been implied hes had at least minor run ins with the law], and the degree of money hes spending etc- how is he not mega suspicious? On top of already pointed out flaws with the whole skylar/walt bit... seems like theres a ton of plot holes this season. That or a lot of things walt/jesse have failed to look at do to hubris, which will bite them in the ass. Specially' if hanks involvement becomes the big thing we have all, im sure, speculated it will be since season 1.

So, if he's making mistakes (he obviously doesn't care), that means there's a plot hole?
DEA wouldn't bust on him as soon as he spent a few bucks, anyway. They want to catch as many as they can, as high up the chain as possible. Them locking him up prematurely would be a mistake.

You can add to that that Hank is not working currently, so we don't see what's going on in DEA.
(Neither Hank, nor his cop friend who appeared in the last episode know what's new in DEA, either.)
No, the plot hole is that neither Walt nor Gus nor saul nor anyone else who knows Jesse has even made a passing reference to concerns over his financial situation. Yet on the flip Gus was clearly ready to murder Jesse precisely due to his instability. Conveniently he has never voiced concerns or pushed for more reasonable behaviour in quite honestly the most needed area, not having an unemployed ex drug dealer buying houses, expensive things, all the while hes not even taking in unemployment [as far as we are aware]. Its either a plot hole or something thats going to blow up in jesse and walts face very very big.


You are exaggerating the level of attention Jesse has drawn. Saul Goodman was the one who facilitated the house sale so it's assumed he did it safely as all transactions on his part have been thus far. The local police/DEA aren't concerned about unemployed people who spend large amounts of money. Jesse has likely been paid in cash to this point, and unless he's planning on buying another house or other six figure or greater item he'll be able to live on just cash. Saul could easily facilitate any purchases of a car or something in cash. Also, after the Hank punching Jesse incident Jesse was the one who decided to drop the charges, which relieved the DEA boss. He wouldn't want people provoking Jesse and potentially inciting him into suing again.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Pitto
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia45 Posts
August 04 2011 05:16 GMT
#275
On August 04 2011 07:04 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 04:19 uGoatt wrote:
On August 02 2011 08:49 Pitto wrote:
anyone else hate skylar with a passion?


god yes and i always have. she is unattractive and i hate her attitude and her mannerisms. I started hating her when she started being a bitch to walt when they were split up.


Yep. And she gained like 25lbs since last season. That character really ruffles my jimmies.


love you guys xoxo
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 06:10:09
August 04 2011 06:09 GMT
#276
On August 04 2011 14:11 Voltaire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 05:17 lizzard_warish wrote:
On August 03 2011 05:00 Spidinko wrote:
On August 02 2011 14:53 lizzard_warish wrote:
Has there been any explanation about Jesse's money..? I mean as far as I'm aware hes not money laundering, and considering hes known by the police to be a hanger-on with drug dealers and druggies [and its been implied hes had at least minor run ins with the law], and the degree of money hes spending etc- how is he not mega suspicious? On top of already pointed out flaws with the whole skylar/walt bit... seems like theres a ton of plot holes this season. That or a lot of things walt/jesse have failed to look at do to hubris, which will bite them in the ass. Specially' if hanks involvement becomes the big thing we have all, im sure, speculated it will be since season 1.

So, if he's making mistakes (he obviously doesn't care), that means there's a plot hole?
DEA wouldn't bust on him as soon as he spent a few bucks, anyway. They want to catch as many as they can, as high up the chain as possible. Them locking him up prematurely would be a mistake.

You can add to that that Hank is not working currently, so we don't see what's going on in DEA.
(Neither Hank, nor his cop friend who appeared in the last episode know what's new in DEA, either.)
No, the plot hole is that neither Walt nor Gus nor saul nor anyone else who knows Jesse has even made a passing reference to concerns over his financial situation. Yet on the flip Gus was clearly ready to murder Jesse precisely due to his instability. Conveniently he has never voiced concerns or pushed for more reasonable behaviour in quite honestly the most needed area, not having an unemployed ex drug dealer buying houses, expensive things, all the while hes not even taking in unemployment [as far as we are aware]. Its either a plot hole or something thats going to blow up in jesse and walts face very very big.


You are exaggerating the level of attention Jesse has drawn. Saul Goodman was the one who facilitated the house sale so it's assumed he did it safely as all transactions on his part have been thus far. The local police/DEA aren't concerned about unemployed people who spend large amounts of money. Jesse has likely been paid in cash to this point, and unless he's planning on buying another house or other six figure or greater item he'll be able to live on just cash. Saul could easily facilitate any purchases of a car or something in cash. Also, after the Hank punching Jesse incident Jesse was the one who decided to drop the charges, which relieved the DEA boss. He wouldn't want people provoking Jesse and potentially inciting him into suing again.
lol wtf? Why in the hell would no one pay attention to someone whos a known criminal spending large cash with no job? He has made expensive purchase too, 5 grand here for a big tv, 5 grand there for a surround system, etc etc. That is insanely brazzen, and would get him harassed by his organization, yet nothing. The incident with Hank wouldnt mean the DEA would just put their fingers in their ears, nor does it even remotely explain why Gus or Walt of all people arent concerned. I'm exaggerating nothing, your just explaining it away in an extremely contrived manner.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
August 04 2011 06:32 GMT
#277
On August 04 2011 15:09 lizzard_warish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 14:11 Voltaire wrote:
On August 03 2011 05:17 lizzard_warish wrote:
On August 03 2011 05:00 Spidinko wrote:
On August 02 2011 14:53 lizzard_warish wrote:
Has there been any explanation about Jesse's money..? I mean as far as I'm aware hes not money laundering, and considering hes known by the police to be a hanger-on with drug dealers and druggies [and its been implied hes had at least minor run ins with the law], and the degree of money hes spending etc- how is he not mega suspicious? On top of already pointed out flaws with the whole skylar/walt bit... seems like theres a ton of plot holes this season. That or a lot of things walt/jesse have failed to look at do to hubris, which will bite them in the ass. Specially' if hanks involvement becomes the big thing we have all, im sure, speculated it will be since season 1.

So, if he's making mistakes (he obviously doesn't care), that means there's a plot hole?
DEA wouldn't bust on him as soon as he spent a few bucks, anyway. They want to catch as many as they can, as high up the chain as possible. Them locking him up prematurely would be a mistake.

You can add to that that Hank is not working currently, so we don't see what's going on in DEA.
(Neither Hank, nor his cop friend who appeared in the last episode know what's new in DEA, either.)
No, the plot hole is that neither Walt nor Gus nor saul nor anyone else who knows Jesse has even made a passing reference to concerns over his financial situation. Yet on the flip Gus was clearly ready to murder Jesse precisely due to his instability. Conveniently he has never voiced concerns or pushed for more reasonable behaviour in quite honestly the most needed area, not having an unemployed ex drug dealer buying houses, expensive things, all the while hes not even taking in unemployment [as far as we are aware]. Its either a plot hole or something thats going to blow up in jesse and walts face very very big.


You are exaggerating the level of attention Jesse has drawn. Saul Goodman was the one who facilitated the house sale so it's assumed he did it safely as all transactions on his part have been thus far. The local police/DEA aren't concerned about unemployed people who spend large amounts of money. Jesse has likely been paid in cash to this point, and unless he's planning on buying another house or other six figure or greater item he'll be able to live on just cash. Saul could easily facilitate any purchases of a car or something in cash. Also, after the Hank punching Jesse incident Jesse was the one who decided to drop the charges, which relieved the DEA boss. He wouldn't want people provoking Jesse and potentially inciting him into suing again.
lol wtf? Why in the hell would no one pay attention to someone whos a known criminal spending large cash with no job? He has made expensive purchase too, 5 grand here for a big tv, 5 grand there for a surround system, etc etc. That is insanely brazzen, and would get him harassed by his organization, yet nothing. The incident with Hank wouldnt mean the DEA would just put their fingers in their ears, nor does it even remotely explain why Gus or Walt of all people arent concerned. I'm exaggerating nothing, your just explaining it away in an extremely contrived manner.


A known criminal? He hasn't been convicted of anything. He has a connection to the murder of Tuco because his car was there but that is it. Hank was personally suspicious of him, no one else was. Also, when someone buys a 5 grand TV in cash no one cares. The salesmen at the store aren't going to question where the customer got the money, neither will movers if they are involved. Unless you're suggesting that the DEA is watching him 24/7, which I highly doubt given that the DEA is a federal agency with the entire country to look over and Jesse is just a twenty something year old who was questioned a number of months back. Walt is far too concerned with his own situation to be worrying about what Jesse his spending his money on, and Jesse hasn't done anything in regards to spending to warrant Gus getting involved.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
August 07 2011 00:38 GMT
#278
Watch the preview for next week, pretty sure Jesse's money situation will be handled.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
August 08 2011 03:02 GMT
#279
Holy smokes, this episode. Cut the tension once in a while!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
August 08 2011 03:07 GMT
#280
On August 03 2011 03:19 lizzard_warish wrote:
Anyone care to read my post on the problem with Jesse? I'm quite confused, I cant remember them explaining that in anyway.


probably just numb to feeling after having to kill some person in the most ridiculous way possible, having his exgf OD and drown in her own vomit right next to him as he's sleeping off his meth high, etc... quite a lot of bad shit has happened to him.
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