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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2015 14:29 GMT
#541
On September 08 2015 23:19 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 18:03 Forikorder wrote:
On September 06 2015 09:56 LaughingTulkas wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:54 Forikorder wrote:
On September 05 2015 03:24 Lysteria wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:07 Forikorder wrote:
if he goes bored after that he can always just return to outside time where the other godhands are

Do you understand how/why a beherit works? Because it doesn't seem so.

On September 04 2015 19:07 Forikorder wrote:
maybe you would prefer it if Guts was working against the greater good but too bad, hes not

Except I didn't say he was going to work against the greater good, please just read what people say.
I said it's likely that killing Griffith right now is going against the greater good of mankind (monsters/apostles free to rampage, Femto still alive anyway,...). So what you say just does not make sense at all.


the Beherit works from FATE, whoever is meant to hold it will hold it at exactly the time there supposed to, if your not supposed to have it you will eventually lose it, if your meant to have it no matter what you do it will find its way back to you

the one who uses it doesnt really have a say in the matter, it was pre-ordained from long ago that the events would happen wether they actually sacrifice is a different story

the Beherits are the tools of the God Hands that they use to bestow power onto the chosen mortals]

and you have it backwards, Gutts killing Griffith is bad in the short term (possibly since we dont know how active he needs to be to keep Falconia safe) but overtime more good comes from killing him

so its a short term sacrifice FOR the greater good


I think the sword of the Skull Knight proves that the power of the Behelit is not absolute, they can be twisted to other purposes.

all of them are used behelits though


An apostle can still use their Behelit even after becoming an apostle, remember the count who refused to sacrifice his daughter to live after Gatts had him almost dead?

I think there are clearly themes of fate in the manga, but also themes of sometimes being able to beat fate, or to change it because of human actions. The same to me is the Behelit, sure they are almost always subject to fate, but their power is not 100% absolute.


but your assuming all those Behelits have another apostle lined up that they are no longer capable of getting to
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 16:12:33
September 08 2015 16:11 GMT
#542
cmon guys
we all know the skull knight/Gatts/Caska arent bound by fate because theyre supposed to be between the two worlds
So their actions can change the course of fate
Although the skull knight is iffy cuz of the fight against the egg where his sword got hold back but im sure he has a similar story as Gatts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 17:19:56
September 08 2015 17:18 GMT
#543
On September 08 2015 23:29 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2015 23:19 LaughingTulkas wrote:
On September 06 2015 18:03 Forikorder wrote:
On September 06 2015 09:56 LaughingTulkas wrote:
On September 05 2015 12:54 Forikorder wrote:
On September 05 2015 03:24 Lysteria wrote:
On September 04 2015 19:07 Forikorder wrote:
if he goes bored after that he can always just return to outside time where the other godhands are

Do you understand how/why a beherit works? Because it doesn't seem so.

On September 04 2015 19:07 Forikorder wrote:
maybe you would prefer it if Guts was working against the greater good but too bad, hes not

Except I didn't say he was going to work against the greater good, please just read what people say.
I said it's likely that killing Griffith right now is going against the greater good of mankind (monsters/apostles free to rampage, Femto still alive anyway,...). So what you say just does not make sense at all.


the Beherit works from FATE, whoever is meant to hold it will hold it at exactly the time there supposed to, if your not supposed to have it you will eventually lose it, if your meant to have it no matter what you do it will find its way back to you

the one who uses it doesnt really have a say in the matter, it was pre-ordained from long ago that the events would happen wether they actually sacrifice is a different story

the Beherits are the tools of the God Hands that they use to bestow power onto the chosen mortals]

and you have it backwards, Gutts killing Griffith is bad in the short term (possibly since we dont know how active he needs to be to keep Falconia safe) but overtime more good comes from killing him

so its a short term sacrifice FOR the greater good


I think the sword of the Skull Knight proves that the power of the Behelit is not absolute, they can be twisted to other purposes.

all of them are used behelits though


An apostle can still use their Behelit even after becoming an apostle, remember the count who refused to sacrifice his daughter to live after Gatts had him almost dead?

I think there are clearly themes of fate in the manga, but also themes of sometimes being able to beat fate, or to change it because of human actions. The same to me is the Behelit, sure they are almost always subject to fate, but their power is not 100% absolute.


but your assuming all those Behelits have another apostle lined up that they are no longer capable of getting to


I'm not assuming that all of them do, but if at least one does, then what I'm saying makes sense.

However, you are definitely assuming that none of them belong to an apostle that is still alive.

On September 09 2015 01:11 Erasme wrote:
cmon guys
we all know the skull knight/Gatts/Caska arent bound by fate because theyre supposed to be between the two worlds
So their actions can change the course of fate
Although the skull knight is iffy cuz of the fight against the egg where his sword got hold back but im sure he has a similar story as Gatts



I agree, there is a definite thread that some instances of fate being thwarted occur. It is rare, because the "god" of Berserk is so powerful, but it can and does happen.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 08 2015 18:31 GMT
#544
However, you are definitely assuming that none of them belong to an apostle that is still alive.


except im not, im assuming that none of them are currently supposed to be in the hands of someone who is supposed to be undergoing the apostle ritual thing for more power
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
September 09 2015 00:43 GMT
#545
I just want guts to kill some shit, is that too much to ask? -_-
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 09 2015 02:56 GMT
#546
On September 09 2015 09:43 SheaR619 wrote:
I just want guts to kill some shit, is that too much to ask? -_-

nope were gonna get more pointless chapters dedicated to rickert
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
September 09 2015 12:42 GMT
#547
It been such a long time, I had to re read a few chapter behind to realize wth was going on. I couldnt remember at first why Ricket was even in the town and who those Assassin were. It probably didnt help that I just want to know wtf Guts party is doing. Did the party wipe on a slime mob or what? It been at least a year since we actually know if they even found the elf people. My god I just realize they probably going to spend a year trying to find the elf people and then do some side quest to cure his chocolate waifu.

RIP in sanity
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 29 2015 09:01 GMT
#548
damn son
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 29 2015 09:24 GMT
#549
Almost couldn't believe what I was seeing when Erika made her way from the protesting women at a brisk walking pace and actually made it all the way outside so that she could get caught.

What is this writing? It's like Berserk suddenly became Cartoon Network.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 29 2015 10:02 GMT
#550
ya, i kinda hope she dies so rickert becomes tougher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
September 29 2015 10:19 GMT
#551
Is it me or the drawing was really of poor quality ?
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 29 2015 14:19 GMT
#552
Rickert took a level in badass. Erica took a level in dumb.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
September 29 2015 15:58 GMT
#553
Little girl dies, Rickert becomes the new vengeful main character for the next 200 chapters and in 20 years (our time) he reunites with Guts to take on Griffith.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 29 2015 17:33 GMT
#554
I hope the little girl dies. It was kind of dumb that she decided after watching for a while, to go ahead and pay a visit to a battlefield which I might add is currently on AFLAME. Was there even a reason she decided to go for a walk?
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
September 29 2015 19:04 GMT
#555
this was beyond stupidity... she doesn't even have the excuse that Rickert was in danger and that she wanted to help
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LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
September 30 2015 14:43 GMT
#556
On September 30 2015 04:04 Yhamm wrote:
this was beyond stupidity... she doesn't even have the excuse that Rickert was in danger and that she wanted to help


Agree, just bad writing IMO.*puts damsel in distress for plot without any explanation*
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
September 30 2015 15:43 GMT
#557
I'm genuinely confused, erica wat
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 04:56:05
October 01 2015 04:55 GMT
#558
you all gonna shut your mouth when we learn erica has been an apostle this whole time

she even had a loved one conveniently drop dead
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden796 Posts
October 26 2015 17:32 GMT
#559
Great having monthly releases :D
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
October 26 2015 18:26 GMT
#560
Huh...apparently this Black hair thingy was introduced a while back a few hundred chapter back. He was also one of griffith assassination squad leader or something like that. I just thought he was another random demon.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
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