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On September 08 2015 23:19 LaughingTulkas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 18:03 Forikorder wrote:On September 06 2015 09:56 LaughingTulkas wrote:On September 05 2015 12:54 Forikorder wrote:On September 05 2015 03:24 Lysteria wrote:On September 04 2015 19:07 Forikorder wrote:
if he goes bored after that he can always just return to outside time where the other godhands are Do you understand how/why a beherit works? Because it doesn't seem so. On September 04 2015 19:07 Forikorder wrote:
maybe you would prefer it if Guts was working against the greater good but too bad, hes not Except I didn't say he was going to work against the greater good, please just read what people say. I said it's likely that killing Griffith right now is going against the greater good of mankind (monsters/apostles free to rampage, Femto still alive anyway,...). So what you say just does not make sense at all. the Beherit works from FATE, whoever is meant to hold it will hold it at exactly the time there supposed to, if your not supposed to have it you will eventually lose it, if your meant to have it no matter what you do it will find its way back to you the one who uses it doesnt really have a say in the matter, it was pre-ordained from long ago that the events would happen wether they actually sacrifice is a different story the Beherits are the tools of the God Hands that they use to bestow power onto the chosen mortals] and you have it backwards, Gutts killing Griffith is bad in the short term (possibly since we dont know how active he needs to be to keep Falconia safe) but overtime more good comes from killing him so its a short term sacrifice FOR the greater good I think the sword of the Skull Knight proves that the power of the Behelit is not absolute, they can be twisted to other purposes. all of them are used behelits though An apostle can still use their Behelit even after becoming an apostle, remember the count who refused to sacrifice his daughter to live after Gatts had him almost dead? I think there are clearly themes of fate in the manga, but also themes of sometimes being able to beat fate, or to change it because of human actions. The same to me is the Behelit, sure they are almost always subject to fate, but their power is not 100% absolute.
but your assuming all those Behelits have another apostle lined up that they are no longer capable of getting to
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cmon guys
we all know the skull knight/Gatts/Caska arent bound by fate because theyre supposed to be between the two worlds
So their actions can change the course of fate
Although the skull knight is iffy cuz of the fight against the egg where his sword got hold back but im sure he has a similar story as Gatts
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On September 08 2015 23:29 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2015 23:19 LaughingTulkas wrote:On September 06 2015 18:03 Forikorder wrote:On September 06 2015 09:56 LaughingTulkas wrote:On September 05 2015 12:54 Forikorder wrote:On September 05 2015 03:24 Lysteria wrote:On September 04 2015 19:07 Forikorder wrote:
if he goes bored after that he can always just return to outside time where the other godhands are Do you understand how/why a beherit works? Because it doesn't seem so. On September 04 2015 19:07 Forikorder wrote:
maybe you would prefer it if Guts was working against the greater good but too bad, hes not Except I didn't say he was going to work against the greater good, please just read what people say. I said it's likely that killing Griffith right now is going against the greater good of mankind (monsters/apostles free to rampage, Femto still alive anyway,...). So what you say just does not make sense at all. the Beherit works from FATE, whoever is meant to hold it will hold it at exactly the time there supposed to, if your not supposed to have it you will eventually lose it, if your meant to have it no matter what you do it will find its way back to you the one who uses it doesnt really have a say in the matter, it was pre-ordained from long ago that the events would happen wether they actually sacrifice is a different story the Beherits are the tools of the God Hands that they use to bestow power onto the chosen mortals] and you have it backwards, Gutts killing Griffith is bad in the short term (possibly since we dont know how active he needs to be to keep Falconia safe) but overtime more good comes from killing him so its a short term sacrifice FOR the greater good I think the sword of the Skull Knight proves that the power of the Behelit is not absolute, they can be twisted to other purposes. all of them are used behelits though An apostle can still use their Behelit even after becoming an apostle, remember the count who refused to sacrifice his daughter to live after Gatts had him almost dead? I think there are clearly themes of fate in the manga, but also themes of sometimes being able to beat fate, or to change it because of human actions. The same to me is the Behelit, sure they are almost always subject to fate, but their power is not 100% absolute. but your assuming all those Behelits have another apostle lined up that they are no longer capable of getting to
I'm not assuming that all of them do, but if at least one does, then what I'm saying makes sense.
However, you are definitely assuming that none of them belong to an apostle that is still alive.
On September 09 2015 01:11 Erasme wrote:
cmon guys
we all know the skull knight/Gatts/Caska arent bound by fate because theyre supposed to be between the two worlds
So their actions can change the course of fate
Although the skull knight is iffy cuz of the fight against the egg where his sword got hold back but im sure he has a similar story as Gatts
I agree, there is a definite thread that some instances of fate being thwarted occur. It is rare, because the "god" of Berserk is so powerful, but it can and does happen.
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However, you are definitely assuming that none of them belong to an apostle that is still alive.
except im not, im assuming that none of them are currently supposed to be in the hands of someone who is supposed to be undergoing the apostle ritual thing for more power
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I just want guts to kill some shit, is that too much to ask? -_-
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On September 09 2015 09:43 SheaR619 wrote:
I just want guts to kill some shit, is that too much to ask? -_-
nope were gonna get more pointless chapters dedicated to rickert
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It been such a long time, I had to re read a few chapter behind to realize wth was going on. I couldnt remember at first why Ricket was even in the town and who those Assassin were. It probably didnt help that I just want to know wtf Guts party is doing. Did the party wipe on a slime mob or what? It been at least a year since we actually know if they even found the elf people. My god I just realize they probably going to spend a year trying to find the elf people and then do some side quest to cure his chocolate waifu.
RIP in sanity
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Almost couldn't believe what I was seeing when Erika made her way from the protesting women at a brisk walking pace and actually made it all the way outside so that she could get caught.
What is this writing? It's like Berserk suddenly became Cartoon Network.
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ya, i kinda hope she dies so rickert becomes tougher
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Is it me or the drawing was really of poor quality ?
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Rickert took a level in badass. Erica took a level in dumb.
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Little girl dies, Rickert becomes the new vengeful main character for the next 200 chapters and in 20 years (our time) he reunites with Guts to take on Griffith.
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I hope the little girl dies. It was kind of dumb that she decided after watching for a while, to go ahead and pay a visit to a battlefield which I might add is currently on AFLAME. Was there even a reason she decided to go for a walk?
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France7248 Posts
this was beyond stupidity... she doesn't even have the excuse that Rickert was in danger and that she wanted to help
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On September 30 2015 04:04 Yhamm wrote:
this was beyond stupidity... she doesn't even have the excuse that Rickert was in danger and that she wanted to help
Agree, just bad writing IMO.*puts damsel in distress for plot without any explanation*
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
I'm genuinely confused, erica wat
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you all gonna shut your mouth when we learn erica has been an apostle this whole time
she even had a loved one conveniently drop dead
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Great having monthly releases :D
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Huh...apparently this Black hair thingy was introduced a while back a few hundred chapter back. He was also one of griffith assassination squad leader or something like that. I just thought he was another random demon.
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