EPTAlso it hasnt been said yet, but im 100% sure Rickon is coming back next episode...and its gonna be a rough return for stark fans...
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
Also it hasnt been said yet, but im 100% sure Rickon is coming back next episode...and its gonna be a rough return for stark fans... | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On May 02 2016 11:13 The_Red_Viper wrote: Yeah Davos' motivation seems not existent, or rather: for plot reasons. I also think Ramsay's plot advancement is rushed as well. Euron's introduction was ok, but i don't get the atmosphere from that actor tbh, Pedro Pascal OWNED the role immediately, i cannot say the same for this guy. It wasn't a bad episode by any means, but still not 100% happy with it either tbh. Yeah Davos still hasn't even asked what happened with Stannis or had any reaction to his death or indication that he even knows what happened, but he is super concerned with bringing Jon back. Don't expect Ramsay to kill Roose that way in the books. Greyjoys are going to be really tricky to make into credible threats now considering the only reason they lost the north in the books is because Balon died and all the captains came back home for the King's Moot. In the show they have lost every single fort with Balon still alive the whole time. Don't understand why no eye patch for Euron. Episode was entertaining overall if you completely ignore the books though. No Dany or Dorne certainly helps. | ||
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Wolfstan
Canada605 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On May 02 2016 13:59 Wolfstan wrote: Was never a fan of Daario = Euron, but there is still a chance that Howland Reed = High Sparrow. I dunno, for me that seems even shadier. HS walked around the countryside a lot and HR would have no way of knowing this would catch on. It seems far more likely HS was a surprise implication, none of the players recognized... | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
I'll agree with the general sentiment: boy does it feel rushed. Jon's resurrection was handled alright, but it lacked... intensity? I think it's what they were going for; desperation, but I think it may have been the wrong approach. I don't know. The rest of the episode, though... Euron's actor and his appearence were totally underwhelming. The actor lacks the spark of madness of the Euron we all know and love. It's not necessarily about appearance (let's be honest, it's hard to replicate these things and end up with a result we can take seriously), but more about the way the actor carries himself. I would expect Euron to have a sort of permanent shit-eating grin, or to always be on the verge of maniacal laughter. Granted, it'd be super hard to act, but someone like Mads would indeed pull it off easily. My representation of Euron has always been a more unhinged version of Hannibal, less sober and more sinister in a maniac kind of way. Anyway... Also, yes, they used the book lines, but it felt so very forced. I personally could tell he was delivering lines. It sounded so off, like some sort of book reader service "here, that's for not including "Only Cat" and others". Overall, the episode wasn't great. They rush everything so much that it's hard to feel the impact. And lastly, I am actually pissed about Ramsay killing Roose. I seriously don't know if it will happen in the books, but I suspect it will. It seems like a necessary component to the Boltons' downfall. Without Roose, everything will start to collapse. Ramsay will be all brute force and sadism, and it won't take long until the whole North gets in line to stab him. That's all the books anyway, in the show it looks like they're taking a different route. Either way, the way Roose went out was so... un-Roosey. Roose Bolton is an extremely cautious man, and he never ever actually trusted Ramsay. He'd never open himself up for such an attack. But I'm mostly rambling, I guess. I think it's 50/50 that Ramsay will kill Roose in the books; I would just see it happen in different circumstances. Overall, meh. Not impressed. But I think it's book reader bias at this point. The show is good, the episode was solid. I just wish they'd find a way to handle the pacing a little better. | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
About the preview: Guess the Umbers bring back Theon. Who knows, maybe Theon has served his purpose and will be killed off unexpectedly. Ramsay could also find out about the wildlings and use it as a pretext to attack the Wall and get Sansa back. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On May 02 2016 14:56 domane wrote: They have cut/deviated from the books already to make it work as a TV show. But I've wondered since season 1 if they should have streamlined things even further. The focus and screen time are split in too many ways. About the preview: Guess the Umbers bring back Theon. Who knows, maybe Theon has served his purpose and will be killed off unexpectedly. Ramsay could also find out about the wildlings and use it as a pretext to attack the Wall and get Sansa back. Its either Theon or Rickon. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9275 Posts
Someone said he expected Tyrion to die like Quentyn, I had the same thought. Maybe dragons are smart but the way Tyrion approached them seemed extremely reckless. Theon deciding to go back to his family made no sense to me. Didn't he literally tell Ramsay that Ned Stark was his true father? Winterfell is his home, not Pyke | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On May 02 2016 15:06 Sent. wrote: wow so much important stuff happened and none of it actually felt important, I don't know what went wrong but it was just weak, Walda's death was the only thing that "moved" me Someone said he expected Tyrion to die like Quentyn, I had the same thought. Maybe dragons are smart but the way Tyrion approached them seemed extremely reckless. Theon deciding to go back to his family made no sense to me. Didn't he literally tell Ramsay that Ned Stark was his true father? Winterfell is his home, not Pyke I reckon that was intentionally vague. When someone like Theon says "home", it could be Winterfell just as well as it could be Pyke. edit: It also didn't occur to me right away, but yes, it could be interpreted that Theon's story arc is over... And that Ramsay is about to kill him or severely punish him. I hope not, though. However, I suspect the Umbers will bring Rickon and Osha. It makes little sense to bring them out specifically if it's not related to Rickon. Theon could be brought back by the huntsmen. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9275 Posts
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Cricketer12
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On May 02 2016 15:27 Sent. wrote: I thought everyone thinks Rickon is dead, how would Umbers know that's not the case? Osha took rickon there didnt she? | ||
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Sent.
Poland9275 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On May 02 2016 15:47 Sent. wrote: She took him to Skagos, that island in the north Not in the show. In the show, she was instructed to take him to Last Hearth, which is the home of the Umbers. In the books, he is on Skagos, yes. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7966 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
Davos forgot about the Melisandre burning Shireen and dooming Stannis to die thing and gives her a pep talk. His motivations for wanting to rez Jon aren't really nonexistent, but it would be better executed if Mel took the initiative anyway. Jaime seems to have forgot all his character development after he lost his hand, but he'll get it back soon and head off to the Riverlands ep 1: Deus ex Brienne, ep 2: Deus ex Wildlings Arya gets rekt by waif for like the millionth time. Dragon scene was well done. Peter Dinklage is a great actor. Resurrection scene was cool, I think they managed to trip out even the ones who were almost 100% sure of it happening (like me). I was at least worried they'd delay it until later in the season or something. They're struggling a bit with the pace of the narrative. I agree some stuff feels rushed, like they're trying to give a summary of a story which is really immensely complex and multi-faceted, without even having a pre-existing source to base it on. That's actually pretty much what they're doing though so it makes sense. Bad pussy | ||
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B-royal
Belgium1330 Posts
The only weak thing was Ramsay/Roose. Roose is not some naive child, he's the father of Ramsay, in the books he's essentially a worse version of Ramsay since he's much less predictable. Whenever Ramsay enters the room, you just have to assume the worst and most ridiculous shit ever. Roose literally knows everything about Ramsay in the books, what he had for breakfast, when he took a shit. He even owns the men that Ramsay thinks are his. I have to agree with others that the actor for Euron didn't deliver. He's not mysterious/menacing enough. I blame it on his trivial look as well, they really couldn't even bother with an eyepatch? It was hard to tell in the storm, but I don't think he even had one. Also what happened to bloodraven? Why does he look so different now, I thought they somewhat nailed the look last season (aside from his eyes having a distinct lack of weirwood roots :D) Also, the wildlings aren't a deux ex machina imo since we know about their existence, we know they're closeby. It's more of a coincidence that they show up right on time | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14903 Posts
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Eshra
France1009 Posts
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LennX
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And we need more Arya and Waif screentime damn it oh and HODORRRRRRRRRRRRRR! | ||
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