EPT100% what they are going for in the show...it could be wrong in the books (probably not)
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Cricketer12
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100% what they are going for in the show...it could be wrong in the books (probably not) | ||
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maybenexttime
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Cricketer12
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On May 03 2016 07:18 maybenexttime wrote: TBH, I thought it would be Roose stabbing Ramsey, not the other way around. I thought that maybe he had learned about Walda giving birth to a son earlier and decided that Ramsey is of no use anymore. Opening up like this was very unlike him. I think he recognized the value of Ramsey in battle amd wanted him alive, at least until after the war he started with the crown ended... | ||
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Sholip
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Also, Cricketer, the quote in your sig is not correct. It lacks exactly one "fucking".  | ||
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Hyperbola
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The_Red_Viper
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On May 03 2016 08:15 Hyperbola wrote: So Tyrion is a Targarayan confirmed? Or maybe it was just plot armor? Why would that be confirmed? | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
On May 03 2016 07:53 Sholip wrote: Ramsay sends his regards... Also, Cricketer, the quote in your sig is not correct. It lacks exactly one "fucking". Damnit you're right | ||
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sung_moon
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On May 03 2016 08:37 sung_moon wrote: Huh, I just realized if Umbers are helping Boltons, they are probably going to hand deliver Rickon to that prick Ramsay. That is possible, but my first instinct at this point is to assume that either they were just throwing a name and it isn't connected logically to anything or that the Umbers are part of an Bolton anit-betrayal plot in the show in place of or alongside the Manderleys. The Umbers being pro Bolton just doesn't compute. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Dragons didn't eat him. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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What an evidence, wow  | ||
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daemir
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On May 03 2016 08:15 Hyperbola wrote: So Tyrion is a Targarayan confirmed? Or maybe it was just plot armor? Or maybe Tyrion giving that little speech about how dragons are smart and can tell friends from enemies wasn't just a waste of time. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
-Davos asking Melisandre to bring Jon back. How did he even think it was possible to bring someone back to life? (and not as a wight) After seeing Melisandre doing her magic few times, I'm pretty sure he is afraid of it, not asking for more "miracles". And why is he so interested in Jon? Now that Stannis is dead, why is he even still at the Wall? Shouldn't he going back to his wife & sons? -Ramsay killing his father. I always thought that he wanted to be recognized as his father's son, and to be indispensable. So I thought he would just kill the baby (like he probably did the first son of Roose in the book). Killing his father, and in front of a Lord... I mean it's still a fucking sin, and I can't believe this new Lord Karstack is just "oh it's cool, whatever" it's the second murder, after Doran last week, done with witnesses who doesn't care at all, and it seems really weird to me I feel I'm gonna be disappointed with the tower of joy... :[ | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On May 03 2016 09:34 Chewbacca. wrote: Or maybe Tyrion giving that little speech about how dragons are smart and can tell friends from enemies wasn't just a waste of time. I highly doubt a starving, caged beast wouldn't eat a tasty human that's trying to be its friend. I highly doubt that Dragons are capable of much more reasoning than a tiger/lion. Sure, you can befriend a jungle cat but you might still get randomly eaten at any time. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On May 03 2016 10:08 Hyperbola wrote: I highly doubt a starving, caged beast wouldn't eat a tasty human that's trying to be its friend. I highly doubt that Dragons are capable of much more reasoning than a tiger/lion. Sure, you can befriend a jungle cat but you might still get randomly eaten at any time. That's all fine but concluding he is a targaryen and that targaryens would never be attacked by dragons seems rather weird to me. At the end of the day i don't think dragons would care much about the family name tbh. But yes i think they used this scene to foreshadow that tyrion will play a role in regards to the dragons. | ||
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daemir
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The_Red_Viper
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On May 03 2016 10:20 daemir wrote: It's not the name they'd care about in any case, it's the blood. I am obviously not saying that the dragons would ask people about their family name  Still, i don't see why this would be any proof of Tyrion Targaryen. The dragons didn't attack any other people Dany "was friends with" either, they are all secret targaryens? Well no. Dragons would never attack Targaryens? Probably not true either huh. All this scene did was establish that Tyrion probably isn't too bad at dealing with dragons, how that will be used in the future story? We will see. Him being a secret Targaryen is certainly possible though, right now i don't see why this scene would give more credibilty to that theory though, and personally i also don't think that theory will be true at the end. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17821 Posts
On May 03 2016 04:41 marttorn wrote: Instead of telling us, "here Davos is in grave danger, he will be killed in about 20 seconds - but then the Wildlings arrive just in the nick of time!", they could tell us "before eveningfall, the wildlings reached castle black and took it from Thorne and his men": its the "nick of time" part that dissolves the tension and can actually ruin the immersion of the story a bit by making us feel as if this character "can't" die. An upcoming example will probably be the "drogon rescues dany" scene. It would be typical if they staged it so that Drogon arrived exactly as something particularly brutal/humiliating were to happen to Dany, which screws with suspension of disbelief in the same way. They did this in the pitfight scene, if I'm not mistaken, and it came across pretty lame. Brienne saving Sansa is an even worse example. Root for Arya then. She can't die since it's GRRM's wife favorite character and he promised her that she'll live to the end. On another note, I need more Greyjoy love in this show. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2554 Posts
On May 03 2016 11:12 Manit0u wrote: Root for Arya then. She can't die since it's GRRM's wife favorite character and he promised her that she'll live to the end. On another note, I need more Greyjoy love in this show. I think Arya's perfect ending would be a death of personality. She would pass the trials and become a faceless man and perhaps even kill all the people on her list. However, what then? There's no way she can go back to being a Stark after all that. I have a feeling she will take the plunge and truly become "no one" at the end of the series. Perhaps another waif? I can just picture a scene in my head where Sansa witnesses Arya kill someone and doesn't recognize who she is. Arya tries to speak but instead runs away, forever. A bittersweet ending. | ||
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