EPTAt least until Tyrion rides in on Rhaegal flying house Lannister's new Chimera sigil and Dany...well, you know...
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
At least until Tyrion rides in on Rhaegal flying house Lannister's new Chimera sigil and Dany...well, you know... | ||
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Girondelle
France969 Posts
On November 15 2012 08:26 Dakkas wrote: If you want to kinda possibly spoil yourself for future books then google "R+L=J" Yes I have seen such rumours in this very topic, but I do not know what to make of it. I remember that in Book 3 Arya met someone who knew Jon's mother, I don't remember what was said but I never saw some hints about Jon being a Targaryen. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 15 2012 06:15 Girondelle wrote: I just finished the 5th book and all I have to say JOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I was teary teading his last chapter, I sooooo hope he is not truly gone  4th was a huge disappointment, the whole Brienne story is pointless since you know where Sansa is. And after finishing the 5th book I realized that the whole Dorne intrigue has very little impact on the development of the story. I like the Brienne story. It is a major part of what I see as one of the most important plot lines: the redemption of Jaime Lannister. Brienne herself develops a great deal also, to the point where I would be sad to see her die. I kind of expect her to die though, as the catalyst for Jaime donning his cape and tights. | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On November 15 2012 06:15 Girondelle wrote: I just finished the 5th book and all I have to say JOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I was teary teading his last chapter, I sooooo hope he is not truly gone 4th was a huge disappointment, the whole Brienne story is pointless since you know where Sansa is. And after finishing the 5th book I realized that the whole Dorne intrigue has very little impact on the development of the story. John's gonna warg into the dragons with the help of Bran. Obviously  | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On November 15 2012 19:32 Girondelle wrote: Yes I have seen such rumours in this very topic, but I do not know what to make of it. I remember that in Book 3 Arya met someone who knew Jon's mother, I don't remember what was said but I never saw some hints about Jon being a Targaryen. There are quite a lot of them. Here's an essay about it. | ||
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Girondelle
France969 Posts
OMG, this is awesome that a series of book can yield so much work from fans, that guy knows probably more about the series than G.R.R Martin himself Thanks  | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:35 Girondelle wrote: OMG, this is awesome that a series of book can yield so much work from fans, that guy knows probably more about the series than G.R.R Martin himself Thanks That whole site has some pretty awesome discussions on different subjects from the books. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
The third book started out interestingly enough. But then I saw the Red Wedding coming from a mile, and I knew Robb would die and was pretty certain Arya would live through it. The plot devices just get too predictable and the author's hints are none too subtle, or so I found. Reading through the whole ordeal pretty much knowing what would happen was painful, and then came a lot of not only depressing but also boring parts about the lifeless marriage of Sansa and Tyrion, so I had to stop reading. Maybe I'll pick it up again. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 28 2012 03:32 Maenander wrote: Just started reading the books recently without having watched the TV series ... devoured the first two, but then got stuck during the third. The third book started out interestingly enough. But then I saw the Red Wedding coming from a mile, and I knew Robb would die and was pretty certain Arya would live through it. The plot devices just get too predictable and the author's hints are none too subtle, or so I found. Reading through the whole ordeal pretty much knowing what would happen was painful, and then came a lot of not only depressing but also boring parts about the lifeless marriage of Sansa and Tyrion, so I had to stop reading. Maybe I'll pick it up again. Some of the main plot devices are very predictable, and the red wedding is one of the worst offenders. However, there are many subtle things to keep me interested. For example, the words that were whispered to Rob as he was killed whowed you just how long the plan would be in the works. Also, there is an interesting reveal at the end of the third book that I personally did not see coming. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14911 Posts
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On November 28 2012 03:32 Maenander wrote: Just started reading the books recently without having watched the TV series ... devoured the first two, but then got stuck during the third. The third book started out interestingly enough. But then I saw the Red Wedding coming from a mile, and I knew Robb would die and was pretty certain Arya would live through it. The plot devices just get too predictable and the author's hints are none too subtle, or so I found. Reading through the whole ordeal pretty much knowing what would happen was painful, and then came a lot of not only depressing but also boring parts about the lifeless marriage of Sansa and Tyrion, so I had to stop reading. Maybe I'll pick it up again. Oh you will just hate Feast for Crows... Dance with Dragons redeems the series bigtime, however. | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On November 28 2012 03:41 kafkaesque wrote: Oh you will just hate Feast for Crows... Dance with Dragons redeems the series bigtime, however. Lol I loved Feast for Crows, whereas I found most of the Dany stuff in ADWD to be really boring (didn't help that there was so fucking much of it). | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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Disposition1989
Canada270 Posts
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On October 14 2012 08:02 aloT wrote: Jons decision to head south was, in my opinion, the only time in the entire saga that I felt broke literary faith. Jon Snow has always been headstrong. Barring his idea to sign up with the Nights Watch in the first place, all of his decisions were made with alot of intelligence and foresight, as well as courage. Bringing in the wildlings, remanning the castles, gaining the support of Stannis (albiet with no choice), drilling archery into the soldiers, sending Sam to become a maester, using Mance, protecting the baby, as well as the Iron Bank loan were all some of the great things he pulled off. His sudden decision to head south after already previously rejecting the opportunity made no sense. It would of been hard, but he had already committed and had to stick it out. His character should of stuck it out. It made my head spin that GRR Martin would suddenly have his character change so drastically in a few lines.. I finally finished ADWD a couple of days ago, and this was exactly how I felt about it... After all the shit he'd been through and done, he just suddenly tosses it all aside and incites the wildlings into going to war with him????? Sad. There were other ways for Martin to kill him if that was necessary | ||
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Wolfswood
United States349 Posts
I think his only major mistake as Lord Commander was earning Ramsay's attention. Of course he did it because he thought he was rescuing his sister, but the last thing he could afford was enemies south of the Wall as well as north. Then again, fighting Ramsay helps Stannis, which in turn helps the effort against the Others? I don't know, its pretty convoluted at this point, but practically speaking he did the right thing by abandoning the Night's Watch. They were only holding him back. Sadly, this was all ruined when he let himself get owned by a bunch of noobs who could barely lift a sword.* Jon was the only thing keeping the peace between the brothers and the wildlings, I see no hope for the Wall being held at this point unless Bran does some crazy shit like turns all the trees into ents or something. *assuming he isn't revived by Melisandre, but wargs into Ghost instead, which seems likely but who the fuck knows | ||
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Topin
Peru10116 Posts
i was like this after reading the Jon chapter: ![[image loading]](http://i43.tinypic.com/211tqhs.jpg) i guess i can write a prediction here: mellisandre will revive jon, now he is free from his oath cause he died once, and will avenge his family. p.s ill start reading this thread, just finished the book but before i wanted to comment about snow T________________T | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
I knew that Jon was going to die as soon as I started reading his last PoV chapter, basically because brian (from TL) had told me there was one more big spoiler in the series so far. The only two 'major' PoV character chapters left at that point were tyrion and jon, and I thought they were both possible deaths, because I'm not really sure where Tyrion's story is going to go from here, and I couldn't imagine where it would go for Jon, at least not where it'd be interesting to read about. If Jon is revived somehow, though, well that would be really lame (what's that, the third character that we think is dead but isn't? Brienne, Catelyn being the two others. It was implied that Brienne died in AFFC) and I don't think GRRM would do it. It seems too much like a fan service thing, and he's spoken out against doing things in the story to appease fans. edit: I also like how much of a failure quentyn is. He makes this big voyage to meereen, but comes too late, then gets burned like an idiot, in desperation. I'm not even sure if his last PoV chapter was necessary, because Barristan's chapter, immediately afterwards, lets us in on what happened anyway. | ||
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
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