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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9641 Posts
October 31 2012 18:32 GMT
#3781
Disagree. Sansa and arya hold their own. And I assume that you aren't counting Jon, because his chapters are the greatest.
Hate bran chapters tho
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10116 Posts
October 31 2012 19:04 GMT
#3782
hahaha i found sansa chapters boring, but Arya and Jon are great. by starks i ment arya and jon...

cateling made me zZzZ
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 31 2012 19:38 GMT
#3783
Sansa chapters are a very slow build-up to the reveal of Littlefinger's true purpose (other than getting into Sansa's pants of course). A little too slow for my taste, since most of their focus is on Littlefinger trying to get into Sansa's pants rather than the political drama.

But I think that when Davos brings Rickon back to White Harbor and the North rises for Rickon (and Stannis), coupled with the obvious ass-whooping that is about to be put on the Freys and Boltons, it will upset Littlefinger's plans so much that he makes a mistake and either Bronze Yohn Royce or Harrold Hardyng will finally put an end to him.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 31 2012 20:34 GMT
#3784
The problem I have with Sansa is that she herself does almost nothing. She is mostly a vehicle to transport action(s) through a rather unconventional POV. I don't hate her parts but the other characters are far more interesting.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9641 Posts
October 31 2012 23:12 GMT
#3785
thats only a consequence of her situation. She doesn't have the means to help herself through any manner than being subservient while in kings landing simply to keep herself alive. Now, as alayne, she's got so much more potential.
Granted she hasnt done anything with it. as far as i remember. She's got a different set of skills in life than any of her siblings, but she's managed to keep alive whilst amongst her enemies.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
October 31 2012 23:26 GMT
#3786
Mostly, or rather entirely, because she is harmless and a tool to be used. She was the little airheaded girl who was the strongest known claim to Winterfell. Her different set of skills was a lack of any kind of useful skills until this most recent stage of her story in which she has taken to learning from Littlefinger.

Currently she is in a transitional stage where she is still not in the middle of a lot of other events on which she can serve as a window as she was in her time in KL yet she hasn't yet developed into much on her own yet. She is still only a view of what other people are doing, and that list of other people is one person long: Littlefinger.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 22:53:30
November 03 2012 22:50 GMT
#3787
18:45] <LOL> At least joe has promised me that ygritte and jon fuck
[18:45] <LOL> if he was lying I will be disappointed beyond words

HAHAHAHA

I had forgotten for a while that it happened, but man when she dies..
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
November 03 2012 23:53 GMT
#3788
Oooohh, adding 'will they make it clear that/if he killed her' in the show to my details to watch for list. Something distinguishable about the arrow perhaps?

She will not die until season 4 so her non-reader fans will have a year to fantasize about her as Jon's queen or something before the GRRM hammer comes crashing down. Awesome.

Still, nothing else has shit on what the red wedding will be in terms of schadenfreude against the illiterate and scenes where you have to be careful to hide the fact that you are watching your fellow viewer rather than the show lest they realize something is wrong prematurely. The beheading set a high standard but I think a couple of the other events can beat it, and possibly even on the celebratory side of things. If it's clear enough that the 'other' wedding will be in the next episode prepare properly to set up and then answer the "what are we celebrating hon/dude/whatever" question with an appropriately straight face.

It is too bad people are being so vocal about calling Robb's decisions incredibly stupid even in "spoiler free" zones. It's a soft spoiler of sorts. In the books it wasn't too obvious he had screwed himself over until it was looked back on in hindsight. There was reason to think he had salvaged things and made up for the mistakes. People following the show already more or less expect that Robb has Hyuked himself.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 04 2012 00:02 GMT
#3789
On November 04 2012 07:50 Gene wrote:
18:45] <LOL> At least joe has promised me that ygritte and jon fuck
[18:45] <LOL> if he was lying I will be disappointed beyond words

HAHAHAHA

I had forgotten for a while that it happened, but man when she dies..

That was like the only time I was really sad about the death of a character in all the books.
Off-season = best season
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9641 Posts
November 04 2012 00:13 GMT
#3790
THE HOUND!? saddest death.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
November 04 2012 00:21 GMT
#3791
On November 04 2012 09:13 Gene wrote:
THE HOUND!? saddest death.

Lots of speculation that he isn't dead though.
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 04 2012 00:25 GMT
#3792
On November 04 2012 09:21 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 09:13 Gene wrote:
THE HOUND!? saddest death.

Lots of speculation that he isn't dead though.

He's dead. Some jackass stole his dog helm and rode around raping and pillaging pretending to be the hound.
Turn off the radio
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 04 2012 00:34 GMT
#3793
On November 04 2012 09:13 Gene wrote:
THE HOUND!? saddest death.

Not sad, sorry. That guy didnt even care himself about being killed.
Off-season = best season
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
November 04 2012 00:38 GMT
#3794
He is not dead though, but I'll add a vote in favor of his 'death' being too appropriate to be tragic or sad. His life was the tragedy.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 01:21:02
November 04 2012 00:41 GMT
#3795
On November 04 2012 09:25 Zealotdriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 09:21 MajuGarzett wrote:
On November 04 2012 09:13 Gene wrote:
THE HOUND!? saddest death.

Lots of speculation that he isn't dead though.

He's dead. Some jackass stole his dog helm and rode around raping and pillaging pretending to be the hound.

We're talking about the grave-digger guy, the signs are clearly there, though it s easy to miss since it s Brienne chapter, and those tend to kill my awareness too, i missed it twice, before reading about it online.

It might be however, that GRRM will leave that as an easter egg / teaser and he's out of the story for good, even if he's not necessarily dead.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 04 2012 04:27 GMT
#3796
On November 04 2012 09:02 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 07:50 Gene wrote:
18:45] <LOL> At least joe has promised me that ygritte and jon fuck
[18:45] <LOL> if he was lying I will be disappointed beyond words

HAHAHAHA

I had forgotten for a while that it happened, but man when she dies..

That was like the only time I was really sad about the death of a character in all the books.


I was really down for a couple days even though I it was clear she was going to die and was heavily foreshadowed
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4615 Posts
November 07 2012 22:11 GMT
#3797
We know nothing
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 07 2012 23:22 GMT
#3798
On November 04 2012 09:41 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 09:25 Zealotdriver wrote:
On November 04 2012 09:21 MajuGarzett wrote:
On November 04 2012 09:13 Gene wrote:
THE HOUND!? saddest death.

Lots of speculation that he isn't dead though.

He's dead. Some jackass stole his dog helm and rode around raping and pillaging pretending to be the hound.

We're talking about the grave-digger guy, the signs are clearly there, though it s easy to miss since it s Brienne chapter, and those tend to kill my awareness too, i missed it twice, before reading about it online.

It might be however, that GRRM will leave that as an easter egg / teaser and he's out of the story for good, even if he's not necessarily dead.


It seems highly likely that Sandor was the grave digger. It is too obvious to be a coincidence. As you said, he might not be in the story anymore, though.
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
November 09 2012 01:52 GMT
#3799
Nobody thinks that hes going to become a warrior of the 7 (what are they called Crystal Knights or something) and come back and fight Franken Gregor? It would be sweet but Im not sure if it'll happen either. I think Jaime might take him down.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
November 09 2012 02:13 GMT
#3800
On November 09 2012 10:52 Flik wrote:
Nobody thinks that hes going to become a warrior of the 7 (what are they called Crystal Knights or something) and come back and fight Franken Gregor? It would be sweet but Im not sure if it'll happen either. I think Jaime might take him down.

I think they're called the warrior's sons. I doubt the hound will return, it wouldn't make sense as no one knows he's alive so no one would be able to find him. Also most readers have probably assumed he's dead and there's been no mention of him for a long time.
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