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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
June 01 2014 17:51 GMT
#881
We don't have a lot of ways to compare the strengh of the characters in HxH, nor does it make a lot of sense considering that it's one of the only manga where being smart, having tailored abilities or fighting unfairly (2v1, poison, you name it) can get you to beat people a lot stronger than you.

But for the sake of argument, what we know so far:
- Netero thinks Gin is one of the 5 best nen users in the world.
- Netero was the best hunter 50 years ago isn't anymore. He was still stronger than Morau.
- Zeno Zoldyck said he couldn't be considered Netero's rival because he always lost against him.
- Morau easily beat two division leader.
- Killua's father one shot one of them and killed a phantom brigade member
- Feitan also beat a division leader but he struggled, although, he apparently was not at full strength.
- Razor was a fucking monster, but lost to Gin
- Knuckle said Gon at the aura level of a mid level pro hunter the first time they fought.
- Hisoka seems to think that Gon and Killua are worth fighting now which he didn't before.


"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 01 2014 18:06 GMT
#882
On June 02 2014 02:51 Diavlo wrote:
We don't have a lot of ways to compare the strengh of the characters in HxH, nor does it make a lot of sense considering that it's one of the only manga where being smart, having tailored abilities or fighting unfairly (2v1, poison, you name it) can get you to beat people a lot stronger than you.

But for the sake of argument, what we know so far:
- Netero thinks Gin is one of the 5 best nen users in the world.
- Netero was the best hunter 50 years ago isn't anymore. He was still stronger than Morau.
- Zeno Zoldyck said he couldn't be considered Netero's rival because he always lost against him.
- Morau easily beat two division leader.
- Killua's father one shot one of them and killed a phantom brigade member
- Feitan also beat a division leader but he struggled, although, he apparently was not at full strength.
- Razor was a fucking monster, but lost to Gin
- Knuckle said Gon at the aura level of a mid level pro hunter the first time they fought.
- Hisoka seems to think that Gon and Killua are worth fighting now which he didn't before.



id say there needs to be a few correction
1. Feitan i wouldnt say struggled, he let down his guard a bit but in the end he finished the fight without any injuries and in basically one attack so it would be accurate to say he toyed with the ant first then got serious and crushed her

2. Razor fought Gin a good time ago so he may have just become alot stronger since

3. Hisoka thought double-guy was worth fighting (presumably) and he beat him pretty handily
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 18:13:54
June 01 2014 18:10 GMT
#883
Ikalgo would not have been in any danger if Killua was not able to locate him. and Killua was ganna just bleed out if he get shot 100 times, and Killua knew it when his wounds won't stop bleeding.

On June 02 2014 03:06 Forikorder wrote:
1. Feitan i wouldnt say struggled, he let down his guard a bit but in the end he finished the fight without any injuries and in basically one attack so it would be accurate to say he toyed with the ant first then got serious and crushed her

2. Razor fought Gin a good time ago so he may have just become alot stronger since

3. Hisoka thought double-guy was worth fighting (presumably) and he beat him pretty handily


Feitan almost died, he took an attack without using nen to protect his own fresh.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 01 2014 18:19 GMT
#884
On June 02 2014 03:10 rei wrote:
Ikalgo would not have been in any danger if Killua was not able to locate him. and Killua was ganna just bleed out if he get shot 100 times, and Killua knew it when his wounds won't stop bleeding.

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 03:06 Forikorder wrote:
1. Feitan i wouldnt say struggled, he let down his guard a bit but in the end he finished the fight without any injuries and in basically one attack so it would be accurate to say he toyed with the ant first then got serious and crushed her

2. Razor fought Gin a good time ago so he may have just become alot stronger since

3. Hisoka thought double-guy was worth fighting (presumably) and he beat him pretty handily


Feitan almost died, he took an attack without using nen to protect his own fresh.

he let down his guard a bit like i said

since he took a nen shot and survived if he had his guard up he would have easily shrugged it off (he pretty much shrugged it off even with no guard) if he had been serious from the start the fight wourldnt have alsted long

Ikalgo had no way to prevent killua from finding where he was, he could kill him quick enough so Killua had time to figure out where he was, he wasnt fast enough to get away from Killua after getting discovered and wasnt strong enough to fight Killua after Killua got close

with nen no matter how good the strategy there there needs to be some comparable level of power
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 19:10:21
June 01 2014 19:00 GMT
#885
not for Alluka... no comparable level of power, just need to follow the rules.

The point is in HxH pure combative strength isn't always the one to come out on top in situations that isn't favor a straight up fight.
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riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 22:33:38
June 01 2014 21:50 GMT
#886
On June 02 2014 01:26 rei wrote:
Ging is top 5 nen user in the world, and I think he's nen type is manipulator. He manipulate people like hannibal lector. and Netero is no longer amount the top 5 at his age. In hunter x hunter nen ability can kill people without direct combat.

Netero's nen ability is a close combat type and maybe it's the best in the known world at that because of its speed, and how quiet it is before it activates so people can't predict where it comes from. His nen type is enhancement he can only deal physical damage, his range is also limited.

hisoka's Bungee Gum is one of the most versatile nen ability known in hunter X hunter. Many of you guys are confuse on nen ability with combat ability. They can be the same thing in certain situations, but mostly not because people are never ganna go stand in open and shout let's fight fair and square in a count of 3. When Killua was fighting with Ikalgo, he had to use his nen to determine Ikalgo's sniping position, this is an example of someone using their nen well that has nothing to do with combat ability, but it is essential to the combat situation he was in. Top 5 nen user refers to their ability to adapt their nen to any given situation, not just their combat ability with nen.


if im not mistaken...
netero's nen class is emitter type as stated on the manga and not enchancer...
(long range ones; prefered not a direct close combat as to not to lose the emitter advantage)

like born...
enhancer = gon, sphinx, nobonoga
materialization = kurapika, chrollo
transfiguration/transformation = killua, hisoka
emitter/emission= leorio (speculated because of the upper cut), razor, netero, feitan
specialization = there is no such thing as born naturally, you need to have some "conditions"


as for the arguement above...
location, nen type, combat abilities, raw power, present physical/mental/emotional condition, luck and intelligence,
these are crucial in determining the outcome...
remember what kurapika's sensei and morau said of the nen battle outcome....
those are the key points on the end result of the nen battle...
you might forgot those guys...

i agree with rei... example, even if you have a goku like aura...
once a manipulator sticks his "antenna" then its bye bye...
(dont argue me on this because even chrollo acknowledges its one of the ways to defeat an enhancer type)
just as he further explained that restricting and manipulating the enhancer types are the "only" means in defeating an enchancer type if you dont belong in that class...

"with nen no matter how good the strategy there there needs to be some comparable level of power"
of course you need power but that doesnt mean the win win solution...
this doesnt hold true of gon vs bomber... and as for the rest...
bomber was obviously had a greater amount of power and anything in every way...
he just snapped... that battle ending kinda bothered me but i accepted it anyway...
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 01 2014 22:39 GMT
#887
http://hunterxhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Isaac_Netero
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 02 2014 01:59 GMT
#888
like born...
enhancer = gon, sphinx, nobonoga
materialization = kurapika, chrollo
transfiguration/transformation = killua, hisoka
emitter/emission= leorio (speculated because of the upper cut), razor, netero, feitan
specialization = there is no such thing as born naturally, you need to have some "conditions"


cat guard was a specialization using the water test, and scarlet eye dude is when his eyes are scarlet, and Killuas wierd sibling thing si most definently

i agree with rei... example, even if you have a goku like aura...
once a manipulator sticks his "antenna" then its bye bye...


but it would be impossible for someone like the cell phone guy to ever put an attenna on the king

this doesnt hold true of gon vs bomber... and as for the rest..
.
Gon had a comparable level of power though, he demonstrated that well enough the strategy was just to make up the gap, he was able to block his explosions and was able to get a few good hits of his own in, the bomber was stronger but not by an extreme amount
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
June 02 2014 03:32 GMT
#889
At present, where does Morel fare. I know he is strong and being under Netero means he has become efficienct in his nen use.

It was said that on the day of the castle siege, Morau was at 40% strength being continously patrolling and fighting/escaping til the day of the siege and not having enough rest.

I am still unsure whether Morau would be able to beat a royal guard, especially like Pouf or Youpi. Pitou seems like a possiblity though for Morau given them his ability is not as "special" compared to pouf and youpi.

Knov looks to be outclassed by Royal guards and maybe enough for a division commander I guess but that's his max potential as far as I see as royal guard aura already scared him away, unlike Morau.

Kurapika is out of the equation as his abilities are only good against Phantom Troupe to achieve full potency.

The wiki also mentions that it was Netero vs Maha Zoldyck, not Zeno who had a rivalry I guess but only mentioned in passing. I know Zeno was never on par with Netero and he even acknowledges Netero's strength even during the Chimera arc as far as I can tell.

Also, the star ranking of hunters does not equal to strength as well and we don't know who are in the top 5 other than Ging at the moment. I am curious who the others are.

I understand it's not nen vs nen where they just bump each other and see who wins. The additional elemental aspect of what they can conjure through their nen is quite a unique trait that can help to benefit or cripple them in fights.

Like for example killua's elec/lightning ability helped him react faster than his brain, pain packer dehydrating you if the "sun" is summoned, or how gasoline negatively affected bomber's ability.

It would have been interesting to see an Uvogin and Razor fight, even just the dodgeball game. =)
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 03:57:59
June 02 2014 03:34 GMT
#890
On June 02 2014 10:59 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
like born...
enhancer = gon, sphinx, nobonoga
materialization = kurapika, chrollo
transfiguration/transformation = killua, hisoka
emitter/emission= leorio (speculated because of the upper cut), razor, netero, feitan
specialization = there is no such thing as born naturally, you need to have some "conditions"


cat guard was a specialization using the water test, and scarlet eye dude is when his eyes are scarlet, and Killuas wierd sibling thing si most definently
Show nested quote +

i agree with rei... example, even if you have a goku like aura...
once a manipulator sticks his "antenna" then its bye bye...


but it would be impossible for someone like the cell phone guy to ever put an attenna on the king
Show nested quote +

this doesnt hold true of gon vs bomber... and as for the rest..
.
Gon had a comparable level of power though, he demonstrated that well enough the strategy was just to make up the gap, he was able to block his explosions and was able to get a few good hits of his own in, the bomber was stronger but not by an extreme amount


@rei...
by that source, looks like im wrong...
what he has been showing to us has always been all emission/emitter type attacks... (misleading)
if he really is a born enhancer then all those attacks he made is only around 80% of what should have been the maximum power... again, if im not wrong, enhancer type who uses emission loses some degree of that potential power...
you can't call his attack as enhancer, obviously he is emitting an aura outside his body...
if it was just connected to the body like using sword then you can still classify it as major enhancement type...
but as to fire an aura, definetly your emitting and aura... therefore an emission type attack...
just like stated by bisuke when gon asked about using emission type vs enhancer type...
it was also mentioned when gon got a lecture from knuckle when they had a 1 on 1...

edit:
reading that site again, i beg to disagree... (in my opinion)
labeling that "summoning" statue as emission is even ridiculous for me,
wouldn't it be materialization? (common sense)
as for the chop and others... as enhancer attacks? lol
yes, you can reinforce/enhance attacks but labeling it as an enhancer attack is ridiculous...
i would rather accept an answer of a reinforced emission attack...

@forikoder
60-05, 61-21, 63-20, 83-04, 83-12 and 198-04
i stand corrected that specialization can be born naturally, but as of the other reference, it kinda contradicts itself
(see that manga chapters on mangareader.net)

@sphinx
no idea where to put him...
perhaps, if using "dolls/summons" as basis, he is probably that best user in that category so far shown in manga...
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 02 2014 03:50 GMT
#891
by that source, looks like im wrong...
what he has been showing to us has always been all emission/emitter type attacks... (misleading)
if he really is a born enhancer then all those attacks he made is only around 80% of what should have been the maximum power... again, if im not wrong, enhancer type who uses emission loses some degree of that potential power...
you can't call his attack as enhancer, obviously he is emitting an aura outside his body...
if it was just connected to the body like using sword then you can still classify it as major enhancement type...
but as to fire an aura, definetly your emitting and aura... therefore an emission type attack...
just like stated by bisuke when gon asked about using emission type vs enhancer type...
it was also mentioned when gon got a lecture from knuckle when they had a 1 on 1...


we have Kurapika who can use 100% in every type of nen if you add restrictions then even if you have only 80 it can still be 100 (like if he had it so the asura things strength is linked to his for instance) at the very least while using it he cant do anything with his own body and needs to "pray" for it to move, and its final attack cost alot out of him so its possible that even with a less efficient nen he can still get full power out of it

and also theres counters, he would never beat the king in a fist fight but with the asura he was able to put up a fight for a good time so even if its not technically as strong as he is in that fight it was a better match for the king then he would have been

Feitang has multiple abilities, so its not that incommon for nen users to develop several techniques to respond to more specific situations
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
June 02 2014 03:53 GMT
#892
If it's complimentary and assuming your nen control doesn't deviate too much, you can do 80% if complimentary of your potential if you stuck to your actual type.

Assuming there is no mistake in this image by the creator.

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Hatsu-Sheet-For-RP-room-123011506
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 02 2014 04:00 GMT
#893
On June 02 2014 12:53 17Sphynx17 wrote:
If it's complimentary and assuming your nen control doesn't deviate too much, you can do 80% if complimentary of your potential if you stuck to your actual type.

Assuming there is no mistake in this image by the creator.

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Hatsu-Sheet-For-RP-room-123011506

thats assuming its a hard fast rule with no exceptions rather then jsut the basics i wouldnt be surprised if there were some people who are born able to use 2 types of nen at 100% that arent next to each other

plus as weve seen Kuropika can use all of them at 100% with his specialty nen so its not that odd for a reinforcement user to make 100% use of emission with enough training and conditions
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 04:10:45
June 02 2014 04:03 GMT
#894
On June 02 2014 12:50 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
by that source, looks like im wrong...
what he has been showing to us has always been all emission/emitter type attacks... (misleading)
if he really is a born enhancer then all those attacks he made is only around 80% of what should have been the maximum power... again, if im not wrong, enhancer type who uses emission loses some degree of that potential power...
you can't call his attack as enhancer, obviously he is emitting an aura outside his body...
if it was just connected to the body like using sword then you can still classify it as major enhancement type...
but as to fire an aura, definetly your emitting and aura... therefore an emission type attack...
just like stated by bisuke when gon asked about using emission type vs enhancer type...
it was also mentioned when gon got a lecture from knuckle when they had a 1 on 1...


we have Kurapika who can use 100% in every type of nen if you add restrictions then even if you have only 80 it can still be 100 (like if he had it so the asura things strength is linked to his for instance) at the very least while using it he cant do anything with his own body and needs to "pray" for it to move, and its final attack cost alot out of him so its possible that even with a less efficient nen he can still get full power out of it

and also theres counters, he would never beat the king in a fist fight but with the asura he was able to put up a fight for a good time so even if its not technically as strong as he is in that fight it was a better match for the king then he would have been

Feitang has multiple abilities, so its not that incommon for nen users to develop several techniques to respond to more specific situations


fair enough... maybe we can re-classify all his attacks as specialization using that statement...
all hunters has a born nen type... all can deviate if they like but can never attain 100% efficiency... unless you attain that specialization thing...

@fori
plus as weve seen Kuropika can use all of them at 100% with his specialty nen so its not that odd for a reinforcement user to make 100% use of emission with enough training and conditions
and your other post above

and to be able to attain that "100% power", you need to have a very very very grave condition and restrictions...
only a few users do it...

i strongly disagree on having an innate 2 or more nen type...
if you are then you belong to the specialization type... see my on the spot manga basis on my post above....
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 02 2014 04:06 GMT
#895
On June 02 2014 13:03 riyanme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 12:50 Forikorder wrote:
by that source, looks like im wrong...
what he has been showing to us has always been all emission/emitter type attacks... (misleading)
if he really is a born enhancer then all those attacks he made is only around 80% of what should have been the maximum power... again, if im not wrong, enhancer type who uses emission loses some degree of that potential power...
you can't call his attack as enhancer, obviously he is emitting an aura outside his body...
if it was just connected to the body like using sword then you can still classify it as major enhancement type...
but as to fire an aura, definetly your emitting and aura... therefore an emission type attack...
just like stated by bisuke when gon asked about using emission type vs enhancer type...
it was also mentioned when gon got a lecture from knuckle when they had a 1 on 1...


we have Kurapika who can use 100% in every type of nen if you add restrictions then even if you have only 80 it can still be 100 (like if he had it so the asura things strength is linked to his for instance) at the very least while using it he cant do anything with his own body and needs to "pray" for it to move, and its final attack cost alot out of him so its possible that even with a less efficient nen he can still get full power out of it

and also theres counters, he would never beat the king in a fist fight but with the asura he was able to put up a fight for a good time so even if its not technically as strong as he is in that fight it was a better match for the king then he would have been

Feitang has multiple abilities, so its not that incommon for nen users to develop several techniques to respond to more specific situations


fair enough... maybe we can re-classify all his attacks as specialization using that statement...
all hunters has a born nen type... all can deviate if they like but can never attain 100% efficiency... unless you attain that specialization thing...

specialization isnt the only one that becomes stronger with a pledge, the punch dude in the spider is reinforcement and gets a stronger punch the more he rotates his arm

i really doubt the nen chart is 100% accurate for everyone everyones different so it doesnt mean every reinforcement user is 80% good at emission im sure theres some wiggle room
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
June 02 2014 04:09 GMT
#896
On June 02 2014 13:00 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 12:53 17Sphynx17 wrote:
If it's complimentary and assuming your nen control doesn't deviate too much, you can do 80% if complimentary of your potential if you stuck to your actual type.

Assuming there is no mistake in this image by the creator.

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Hatsu-Sheet-For-RP-room-123011506

thats assuming its a hard fast rule with no exceptions rather then jsut the basics i wouldnt be surprised if there were some people who are born able to use 2 types of nen at 100% that arent next to each other

plus as weve seen Kuropika can use all of them at 100% with his specialty nen so its not that odd for a reinforcement user to make 100% use of emission with enough training and conditions


Yup I understand there is a possible of special individuals as well like Kurapika or maybe a Blackbeard (one piece speculation of his being) type that could in theory have a two unique types tied to it. Plus, as Kurapika mentioned how his technique works, it generally can be done by anyone as long as the sacrifice or exchange being offered is high enough. I do believe gon's power boost is somewhat to that effect which is why the power boost was so great is because his sacrifice in exchange was also great.

For training alone, for now, since Biscuit and Wing did mention it, I believe the percentages are the generally accepted rule based on lore. And we could clearly see the detrimental effect of going against type with what happened with Castro who went with an opposite end of spectrum against his type.

But I like how the author establishes this "lore" for the world that exists in his world. I do wonder what new wonders the new world would bring in terms of expounding the nen lore.
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 04:22:17
June 02 2014 04:14 GMT
#897
On June 02 2014 13:06 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 13:03 riyanme wrote:
On June 02 2014 12:50 Forikorder wrote:
by that source, looks like im wrong...
what he has been showing to us has always been all emission/emitter type attacks... (misleading)
if he really is a born enhancer then all those attacks he made is only around 80% of what should have been the maximum power... again, if im not wrong, enhancer type who uses emission loses some degree of that potential power...
you can't call his attack as enhancer, obviously he is emitting an aura outside his body...
if it was just connected to the body like using sword then you can still classify it as major enhancement type...
but as to fire an aura, definetly your emitting and aura... therefore an emission type attack...
just like stated by bisuke when gon asked about using emission type vs enhancer type...
it was also mentioned when gon got a lecture from knuckle when they had a 1 on 1...


we have Kurapika who can use 100% in every type of nen if you add restrictions then even if you have only 80 it can still be 100 (like if he had it so the asura things strength is linked to his for instance) at the very least while using it he cant do anything with his own body and needs to "pray" for it to move, and its final attack cost alot out of him so its possible that even with a less efficient nen he can still get full power out of it

and also theres counters, he would never beat the king in a fist fight but with the asura he was able to put up a fight for a good time so even if its not technically as strong as he is in that fight it was a better match for the king then he would have been

Feitang has multiple abilities, so its not that incommon for nen users to develop several techniques to respond to more specific situations


fair enough... maybe we can re-classify all his attacks as specialization using that statement...
all hunters has a born nen type... all can deviate if they like but can never attain 100% efficiency... unless you attain that specialization thing...

specialization isnt the only one that becomes stronger with a pledge, the punch dude in the spider is reinforcement and gets a stronger punch the more he rotates his arm

i really doubt the nen chart is 100% accurate for everyone everyones different so it doesnt mean every reinforcement user is 80% good at emission im sure theres some wiggle room

yes, im on you on that...
but please see those chapters i posted above so can understand what i mean...
we cant argue with the source because it is manga itself... not unless it was mistranslated...

@sphinx
all nen type are linked, so why the hell we have to say some users are born with 2 types or more...
it has to be only one born type...
you might consider the possibilties of personal preferance, mastery and innate inclination....
but as for born with 2 or more, i strongly disagree with that as based on the manga...
not unless togashi will go full retard on a "blackbeard" scenario.... (contradicting your own set rules)
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 02 2014 04:22 GMT
#898
On June 02 2014 13:14 riyanme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 13:06 Forikorder wrote:
On June 02 2014 13:03 riyanme wrote:
On June 02 2014 12:50 Forikorder wrote:
by that source, looks like im wrong...
what he has been showing to us has always been all emission/emitter type attacks... (misleading)
if he really is a born enhancer then all those attacks he made is only around 80% of what should have been the maximum power... again, if im not wrong, enhancer type who uses emission loses some degree of that potential power...
you can't call his attack as enhancer, obviously he is emitting an aura outside his body...
if it was just connected to the body like using sword then you can still classify it as major enhancement type...
but as to fire an aura, definetly your emitting and aura... therefore an emission type attack...
just like stated by bisuke when gon asked about using emission type vs enhancer type...
it was also mentioned when gon got a lecture from knuckle when they had a 1 on 1...


we have Kurapika who can use 100% in every type of nen if you add restrictions then even if you have only 80 it can still be 100 (like if he had it so the asura things strength is linked to his for instance) at the very least while using it he cant do anything with his own body and needs to "pray" for it to move, and its final attack cost alot out of him so its possible that even with a less efficient nen he can still get full power out of it

and also theres counters, he would never beat the king in a fist fight but with the asura he was able to put up a fight for a good time so even if its not technically as strong as he is in that fight it was a better match for the king then he would have been

Feitang has multiple abilities, so its not that incommon for nen users to develop several techniques to respond to more specific situations


fair enough... maybe we can re-classify all his attacks as specialization using that statement...
all hunters has a born nen type... all can deviate if they like but can never attain 100% efficiency... unless you attain that specialization thing...

specialization isnt the only one that becomes stronger with a pledge, the punch dude in the spider is reinforcement and gets a stronger punch the more he rotates his arm

i really doubt the nen chart is 100% accurate for everyone everyones different so it doesnt mean every reinforcement user is 80% good at emission im sure theres some wiggle room

yes, im on you on that...
but please see those chapters i posted above so can understand what i mean...
we cant argue with the source because it is manga itself... not unless it was mistranslated...

@sphinx
all nen type are linked, so why the hell we have to say some users are born with 2 types or more...
it has to be only one born type...
you might consider the possibilty of mastery and inclination....
but as for born with 2 or more, i strongly disagree with that as based on the manga...
not unless togashi will go retard on a "blackbeard" scenario....

would it really be that wierd for someone to be as skilled in reinforcement as emission? have 90% in each?
even if the nen chart is accurate doesnt mean its perfectly accurate, the chairman could ahve had 85% competency in emission, considering how unique everyones nen is to say that every single reinforcement user can only use 80% of emission seems a tad closeminded
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
June 02 2014 04:25 GMT
#899
On June 02 2014 13:22 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 13:14 riyanme wrote:
On June 02 2014 13:06 Forikorder wrote:
On June 02 2014 13:03 riyanme wrote:
On June 02 2014 12:50 Forikorder wrote:
by that source, looks like im wrong...
what he has been showing to us has always been all emission/emitter type attacks... (misleading)
if he really is a born enhancer then all those attacks he made is only around 80% of what should have been the maximum power... again, if im not wrong, enhancer type who uses emission loses some degree of that potential power...
you can't call his attack as enhancer, obviously he is emitting an aura outside his body...
if it was just connected to the body like using sword then you can still classify it as major enhancement type...
but as to fire an aura, definetly your emitting and aura... therefore an emission type attack...
just like stated by bisuke when gon asked about using emission type vs enhancer type...
it was also mentioned when gon got a lecture from knuckle when they had a 1 on 1...


we have Kurapika who can use 100% in every type of nen if you add restrictions then even if you have only 80 it can still be 100 (like if he had it so the asura things strength is linked to his for instance) at the very least while using it he cant do anything with his own body and needs to "pray" for it to move, and its final attack cost alot out of him so its possible that even with a less efficient nen he can still get full power out of it

and also theres counters, he would never beat the king in a fist fight but with the asura he was able to put up a fight for a good time so even if its not technically as strong as he is in that fight it was a better match for the king then he would have been

Feitang has multiple abilities, so its not that incommon for nen users to develop several techniques to respond to more specific situations


fair enough... maybe we can re-classify all his attacks as specialization using that statement...
all hunters has a born nen type... all can deviate if they like but can never attain 100% efficiency... unless you attain that specialization thing...

specialization isnt the only one that becomes stronger with a pledge, the punch dude in the spider is reinforcement and gets a stronger punch the more he rotates his arm

i really doubt the nen chart is 100% accurate for everyone everyones different so it doesnt mean every reinforcement user is 80% good at emission im sure theres some wiggle room

yes, im on you on that...
but please see those chapters i posted above so can understand what i mean...
we cant argue with the source because it is manga itself... not unless it was mistranslated...

@sphinx
all nen type are linked, so why the hell we have to say some users are born with 2 types or more...
it has to be only one born type...
you might consider the possibilty of mastery and inclination....
but as for born with 2 or more, i strongly disagree with that as based on the manga...
not unless togashi will go retard on a "blackbeard" scenario....

would it really be that wierd for someone to be as skilled in reinforcement as emission? have 90% in each?
even if the nen chart is accurate doesnt mean its perfectly accurate, the chairman could ahve had 85% competency in emission, considering how unique everyones nen is to say that every single reinforcement user can only use 80% of emission seems a tad closeminded

your right, im on that too, i was arguing based on that the manga has shown so far...
but still i do agree that if you max "training" on each of the types,
the ones your born with has an edge over the other....
(again, based on manga, see the chapters above; im not referring to the %)
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 03 2014 03:56 GMT
#900
netero's ability is enhancement of a conjured nen thousand arm Buddha statue, not only that he also use "in" to conceal it's movement like how Kuropika conceal his chain when he was fighting Uvogin. remember Enhancement doesn't only allow someone to enhance their own body like gon or Uvogin, they can also do it to items. That Nen Buddha is not an emission ability. And Netero has a restriction on his ability too, he has to pray first every time he use his nen Buddha to attack. It's just that he's movement is faster than speed of sound, nothing anyone can do about it.

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