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Hisoka stronger than Netero? He would have been beat as well. Remember he got his hands busted up in Greed Island.
He is strong, but I would say he isnt that strong to be able to stand up to Netero.
ging we still don't know how strong he is but we kind of get the idea that Ging is stronger than hisoka. Power alone, Razor looks to be stronger than Hisoka in terms of Nen. And Ging captured/beat Razor to be imprisoned, if I remember my lore right.
I am curious how Ging fares against Netero in terms of fighting ability, where does he stand as well some one the Ryodan/Spider members like Feitan (5th in ranking according to Wiki for arm wrestling among the troupe) given that his Pain Packer ability can summon a star and like a nuke would affect a person no matter how strong he is via dehydration/burning up.
Just a thought that crossed my mind.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
Ging's strength comes from his strategic planning and excellent foresight(ironic considering how he he looks like an older Yuuske from YYH). I don't think he'd be all that special in a straight up fight.
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On June 01 2014 01:08 BLinD-RawR wrote: Ging's strength comes from his strategic planning and excellent foresight(ironic considering how he he looks like an older Yuuske from YYH). I don't think he'd be all that special in a straight up fight. theres no evidence for that at all especailly since he got the boar nick
just because he has a brain doesnt mean he has no brawn
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
I'm not saying hes a pushover, I'm saying its at least a 60/40 split on the brain/brawn, although we don't know what that amounts to on its own seeing has we don't know his full potential, from what I've seen I can tell hes not one for going into a fight unprepared.
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On June 01 2014 01:18 BLinD-RawR wrote: I'm not saying hes a pushover, I'm saying its at least a 60/40 split on the brain/brawn, although we don't know what that amounts to on its own seeing has we don't know his full potential, from what I've seen I can tell hes not one for going into a fight unprepared. which is why he picked a fight with the entire hunter audience?
he knows how to use his head but thats extremely weak evidence to say hes not the type to run into battle, i mean he even wants to go the new world
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
No one actually knows how strong Ging is right? All we know for certain is that he's smart and has great insight of the other Zodiacs.
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I think it's mentioned that he either was one of the best nen users in the world or that he was in the top 5 of the nen users.
His nen is what I am the most excited about though
also whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Gon sacrificed all his potential to beat pitou? wtf why ;_; gimme some deus ex machinima so I cna have Gon back.
Oh well, I'll have to bite and see
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On June 01 2014 01:52 Iplaythings wrote: gimme some deus ex machinima so I cna have Gon back.
u just gotta pray hard enough
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Anime only viewers should not be in this thread, while it wasn't made to be a manga only discussion huge spoilers are being casually discussed. The ending of the ant arc and the fate of Gon have already been mentioned here.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50749 Posts
On June 01 2014 01:52 Iplaythings wrote: I think it's mentioned that he either was one of the best nen users in the world or that he was in the top 5 of the nen users.
His nen is what I am the most excited about though
also whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Gon sacrificed all his potential to beat pitou? wtf why ;_; gimme some deus ex machinima so I cna have Gon back.
Oh well, I'll have to bite and see
something will save him. + Show Spoiler [for manga readers only!] +Nanika translates to "something"
its funny how a lot of stuff happens in the election arc, but its really only 20 chapters long.
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On June 01 2014 02:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 01:52 Iplaythings wrote: I think it's mentioned that he either was one of the best nen users in the world or that he was in the top 5 of the nen users.
His nen is what I am the most excited about though
also whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Gon sacrificed all his potential to beat pitou? wtf why ;_; gimme some deus ex machinima so I cna have Gon back.
Oh well, I'll have to bite and see something will save him. + Show Spoiler [for manga readers only!] +Nanika translates to "something" I've only read the manga dw haha and I saw someones post refer to Gon sacrificing his potential (which somehow missed me in the mangareader one) and I instantly forgot everything about that "something" that might've deus ex'd it <.<
+ Show Spoiler +I doubt they can make Nanika creepy and cute enough at the same time in the anime though
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On June 01 2014 01:00 17Sphynx17 wrote: Hisoka stronger than Netero? He would have been beat as well. Remember he got his hands busted up in Greed Island.
He is strong, but I would say he isnt that strong to be able to stand up to Netero.
ging we still don't know how strong he is but we kind of get the idea that Ging is stronger than hisoka. Power alone, Razor looks to be stronger than Hisoka in terms of Nen. And Ging captured/beat Razor to be imprisoned, if I remember my lore right.
I am curious how Ging fares against Netero in terms of fighting ability, where does he stand as well some one the Ryodan/Spider members like Feitan (5th in ranking according to Wiki for arm wrestling among the troupe) given that his Pain Packer ability can summon a star and like a nuke would affect a person no matter how strong he is via dehydration/burning up.
Just a thought that crossed my mind.
your dead wrong on hisoka... let me remind you that he is the type to get beaten up at first... remember... how he was bruised by the punch by gon on the arena? how he was mutilated by castro? how he toyed the butler? and more... so dont tell me gon is stronger than hisoka because he manage to "bruise" his face with a mere punch???? or by castro who cut off hisoka's arms? the way you compare it to the "hands busted up in GI" is ridiculous...
so, hisoka stronger than netero? probably... gin stronger than hisoka? your answer was bias obviously... in short, we dont know... dont shut him out... he is still an enigma...
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@riyanme
I think you are wearing Hisoka tinted glasses on this issue.
Hisoka toyed with opponents lesser than him.
But hisoka is strong and he does seek out stronger opponents. In the castro fight, he was okay with losing an arm because he knew full well he could get patched up after as he will surely win knowing Castro's weakness.
But do you think Hisoka could be able to have that luxury against Meruem?
With regards to Razor, I do believe Razor (power wise) is stronger than Hisoka. Although that was fight in Razor's turf, Hisoka didn't have the luxury to go soft there. And if I recall the story correctly, he wanted to fight Razor in a real battle after seeing what he could do in the GI dodgeball game.
Hisoka isn't afraid to battle stronger opponents. But that doesn't give him the autowin.
Netero's real advatange over Meruem was his speed that allowed him to land those multiple hits. I don't think Hisoka is as fast to give him that same advantage against Meruem in battle. So where would he get that advantage from?
The reason as well for Ging most likely being stronger than Hisoka was based off what I saw with Razor vs Gon/Killua/hisoka Dodgeball game. Razor with his power (plusbeing a criminal who kills) was bested and captured by Ging making Ging stronger than Razor. So if A(Ging) is greater than B(razor) and B (razor) is greater than c(Hisoka), then A (Ging) is greater than C (Hisoka)
That is just what I assessed based on what I understand, you on the other hand are a clear hisoka fanboy
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On June 01 2014 04:09 17Sphynx17 wrote: @riyanme
I think you are wearing Hisoka tinted glasses on this issue.
Hisoka toyed with opponents lesser than him.
But hisoka is strong and he does seek out stronger opponents. In the castro fight, he was okay with losing an arm because he knew full well he could get patched up after as he will surely win knowing Castro's weakness.
But do you think Hisoka could be able to have that luxury against Meruem?
With regards to Razor, I do believe Razor (power wise) is stronger than Hisoka. Although that was fight in Razor's turf, Hisoka didn't have the luxury to go soft there. And if I recall the story correctly, he wanted to fight Razor in a real battle after seeing what he could do in the GI dodgeball game.
Hisoka isn't afraid to battle stronger opponents. But that doesn't give him the autowin.
Netero's real advatange over Meruem was his speed that allowed him to land those multiple hits. I don't think Hisoka is as fast to give him that same advantage against Meruem in battle. So where would he get that advantage from?
The reason as well for Ging most likely being stronger than Hisoka was based off what I saw with Razor vs Gon/Killua/hisoka Dodgeball game. Razor with his power (plusbeing a criminal who kills) was bested and captured by Ging making Ging stronger than Razor. So if A(Ging) is greater than B(razor) and B (razor) is greater than c(Hisoka), then A (Ging) is greater than C (Hisoka)
That is just what I assessed based on what I understand, you on the other hand are a clear hisoka fanboy
im not a hisoka or gin fanboy... i dont understand where you got that fanboyism... stronger doesn't simply mean raw power... what im trying to say here is be open minded... i didn't say he is stronger and that "autowin"... wtf... i said probably... we will get to know then when togashi fully unleash those characters...
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On May 30 2014 11:22 SiewKaiz wrote: netero is strong but at the middle of the ant arc, netero already mention that he is no longer world no 1 nen user nor his strength near his prime, dun forget he is age 100+ , the king@meruem will die later at komugi arm while playing gungi before he succumb to the bomb radiation@poison
He said he wasn't even in the top 10 nen users for at least FIFTY years!
Clearly there are a lot of hunters more powerful than him, I think he chose to take the task because he was probably the only one 100% ready to die for the cause and his last chance at a final battle.
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On June 01 2014 08:01 Figgy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 11:22 SiewKaiz wrote: netero is strong but at the middle of the ant arc, netero already mention that he is no longer world no 1 nen user nor his strength near his prime, dun forget he is age 100+ , the king@meruem will die later at komugi arm while playing gungi before he succumb to the bomb radiation@poison He said he wasn't even in the top 10 nen users for at least FIFTY years! Clearly there are a lot of hunters more powerful than him, I think he chose to take the task because he was probably the only one 100% ready to die for the cause and his last chance at a final battle. his 2 subordinates also said that was just him being humble so he was definently short changing himself
remember he was able to remove Pitou from the fight easily, and he may not have had the strength to wound the king but he had enough speed and strength to keep him down for a good long time
id say he is at the bare minimum in the top 10 of nen users
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guys, want to hear your speculations on how to get to the "world beyond"... do you ride a boat? a teleport chamber? an underground cave? or perhaps up in the air?
this makes me feel like that togashi "likes".... (this is just trolling, no need to tell me)
yuyu hakusho (arena arc) naruto (spider arc) yugioh (gi arc) dbz (chimera arc) one piece (recent arc) hehehehehehe.....
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Ging is top 5 nen user in the world, and I think he's nen type is manipulator. He manipulate people like hannibal lector. and Netero is no longer amount the top 5 at his age. In hunter x hunter nen ability can kill people without direct combat.
Netero's nen ability is a close combat type and maybe it's the best in the known world at that because of its speed, and how quiet it is before it activates so people can't predict where it comes from. His nen type is enhancement he can only deal physical damage, his range is also limited.
hisoka's Bungee Gum is one of the most versatile nen ability known in hunter X hunter. Many of you guys are confuse on nen ability with combat ability. They can be the same thing in certain situations, but mostly not because people are never ganna go stand in open and shout let's fight fair and square in a count of 3. When Killua was fighting with Ikalgo, he had to use his nen to determine Ikalgo's sniping position, this is an example of someone using their nen well that has nothing to do with combat ability, but it is essential to the combat situation he was in. Top 5 nen user refers to their ability to adapt their nen to any given situation, not just their combat ability with nen.
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On June 02 2014 01:26 rei wrote: Ging is top 5 nen user in the world, and I think he's nen type is manipulator. He manipulate people like hannibal lector. and Netero is no longer amount the top 5 at his age. In hunter x hunter nen ability can kill people without direct combat.
Netero's nen ability is a close combat type and maybe it's the best in the known world at that because of its speed, and how quiet it is before it activates so people can't predict where it comes from. His nen type is enhancement he can only deal physical damage, his range is also limited.
hisoka's Bungee Gum is one of the most versatile nen ability known in hunter X hunter. Many of you guys are confuse on nen ability with combat ability. They can be the same thing in certain situations, but mostly not because people are never ganna go stand in open and shout let's fight fair and square in a count of 3. When Killua was fighting with Ikalgo, he had to use his nen to determine Ikalgo's sniping position, this is an example of someone using their nen well that has nothing to do with combat ability, but it is essential to the combat situation he was in. Top 5 nen user refers to their ability to adapt their nen to any given situation, not just their combat ability with nen. combat ability means alot too, Ikalgo could snipe as much as he wanted but he couldnt do any worthwhile damage to Killua so he was easily able to take him out
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