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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 16 2015 20:11 GMT
#9261
I didn't spoil anything...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
October 16 2015 21:07 GMT
#9262
Well, you did just say that in the books "Eugene becom[es] one of Rick's and the Towns most trusted friends" ,-)
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Justice Crash
Profile Joined August 2015
32 Posts
October 16 2015 21:16 GMT
#9263
On October 17 2015 05:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I didn't spoil anything...


I'm looking forward to when they meet the group that walks amongst the you know whats and Carl falls in love with that group's leader's you know what.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-17 00:14:19
October 17 2015 00:13 GMT
#9264
On October 17 2015 03:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2015 03:03 Hyperbola wrote:
Why don't the characters just wear thick clothing that zombies can't bite through?
Because it would ruin the show that's why.

Letting those zombies out was a retarded idea in the first place. Roll over some cars or build a fence around that giant ditch and you will never have a zombie problem. You can even fill it up with water if you're really scared of zombies leaving. The thing will turn into mud and the zombies won't be able to swim up.


More importantly why aren't the making shields, and looting police stations for Riot Gear etc. AMC that's why, the execs who to cut back costs prefer cheap make up jobs which are evident in the past episode.

And if I remember someone said that the characters in the comics use shields.

Another debate: Roman Legions vs Zombies on this show. Who wins?

If the show had survivors take on walkers while being armed with shields and melee weapons it would just show how it ridiculous it was that soldiers armed with modern weaponry lost. Sure you can only kill a walker with by destroying it's head, but a group of walkers shot by a 50 caliber machine gun would be destroyed so much they wouldn't have anything left to attack with. Walkers don't even run or jump, they just shuffle fast sometimes and push in a disorganized mass. Even if the walkers started inside the base there should be no way for walkers to defeat armored vehicles except to wait till they have no fuel or food and the drivers had to get out. Yet they showed bases with machine guns having been overrun in S1 and it's why the Governor's men had to kill the soldiers in a previous season because they were too well armed.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-17 01:50:33
October 17 2015 01:49 GMT
#9265
On October 17 2015 09:13 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2015 03:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On October 17 2015 03:03 Hyperbola wrote:
Why don't the characters just wear thick clothing that zombies can't bite through?
Because it would ruin the show that's why.

Letting those zombies out was a retarded idea in the first place. Roll over some cars or build a fence around that giant ditch and you will never have a zombie problem. You can even fill it up with water if you're really scared of zombies leaving. The thing will turn into mud and the zombies won't be able to swim up.


More importantly why aren't the making shields, and looting police stations for Riot Gear etc. AMC that's why, the execs who to cut back costs prefer cheap make up jobs which are evident in the past episode.

And if I remember someone said that the characters in the comics use shields.

Another debate: Roman Legions vs Zombies on this show. Who wins?

If the show had survivors take on walkers while being armed with shields and melee weapons it would just show how it ridiculous it was that soldiers armed with modern weaponry lost. Sure you can only kill a walker with by destroying it's head, but a group of walkers shot by a 50 caliber machine gun would be destroyed so much they wouldn't have anything left to attack with. Walkers don't even run or jump, they just shuffle fast sometimes and push in a disorganized mass. Even if the walkers started inside the base there should be no way for walkers to defeat armored vehicles except to wait till they have no fuel or food and the drivers had to get out. Yet they showed bases with machine guns having been overrun in S1 and it's why the Governor's men had to kill the soldiers in a previous season because they were too well armed.



Actually there is answer to the base question etc. and was supposed to be answered in S2 as Frank Darabont wanted to do a flash back episode with the characters and how they met then the ending would have, guess what, the tank driver fighting off the horde and crawling inside the tank to die till Rick Grimes crawls inside at the end of S1 episode 1.

Then AMC decided to get rid of him.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BalizengaR
Profile Joined October 2015
Pakistan16 Posts
October 17 2015 07:42 GMT
#9266
I'm getting tired of the walking dead really. Started Fear the walking dead and it looks pretty good!
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Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
October 17 2015 07:59 GMT
#9267
On October 17 2015 09:13 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2015 03:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On October 17 2015 03:03 Hyperbola wrote:
Why don't the characters just wear thick clothing that zombies can't bite through?
Because it would ruin the show that's why.

Letting those zombies out was a retarded idea in the first place. Roll over some cars or build a fence around that giant ditch and you will never have a zombie problem. You can even fill it up with water if you're really scared of zombies leaving. The thing will turn into mud and the zombies won't be able to swim up.


More importantly why aren't the making shields, and looting police stations for Riot Gear etc. AMC that's why, the execs who to cut back costs prefer cheap make up jobs which are evident in the past episode.

And if I remember someone said that the characters in the comics use shields.

Another debate: Roman Legions vs Zombies on this show. Who wins?

If the show had survivors take on walkers while being armed with shields and melee weapons it would just show how it ridiculous it was that soldiers armed with modern weaponry lost. Sure you can only kill a walker with by destroying it's head, but a group of walkers shot by a 50 caliber machine gun would be destroyed so much they wouldn't have anything left to attack with. Walkers don't even run or jump, they just shuffle fast sometimes and push in a disorganized mass. Even if the walkers started inside the base there should be no way for walkers to defeat armored vehicles except to wait till they have no fuel or food and the drivers had to get out. Yet they showed bases with machine guns having been overrun in S1 and it's why the Governor's men had to kill the soldiers in a previous season because they were too well armed.


I'd suggest you read World War Z if you haven't. Some pretty good explanations of how that could happen in there. Basically, killing them isn't really the problem (although with explosives and bullet spray you tend to leave a lot of crawler), killing all of them before you run out of ammo is.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 17 2015 11:39 GMT
#9268
On October 17 2015 05:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I didn't spoil anything...

You totally did. Eugene doesnt die soon and joins the inner circle....
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2548 Posts
October 17 2015 13:04 GMT
#9269
On October 17 2015 20:39 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2015 05:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I didn't spoil anything...

You totally did. Eugene doesnt die soon and joins the inner circle....

~Time foooor a lynch mob
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
October 17 2015 15:00 GMT
#9270
Yeah tbf they were basically obscure spoilers.
Useless wet fish.
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
October 17 2015 16:12 GMT
#9271
Can I just pop in real quick and just say how awful Fear the Walking Dead was? (Spoilers)

+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, so, not only is the military completely incompetent, but they're malicious too! Seriously, this show has one of the most offensive portrayals of the American military I've ever seen. I grew up as a military brat. Incompetence and maliciousness exist, certainly, but that's true of everyone on earth. They're not particular to nor the defining characteristics of the US military.

Here's a perfect example of this horseshit: in the last episode, while the base is in the process of being overrun (ALSO LET'S NOT DRIVE A TRUCK NEXT TO THE FENCE AND BARRICADE IT. ALSO BULLETS RICOCHET OFF OF CHAINLINK, RIGHT), three soldiers enter the parking garage, wearing nothing but, like, shirts and pants.

Okay, so, obviously they need a vehicle to escape. They need it *right that second* because zombies. But instead of just taking the kids' fucking keys and driving away like sane people, they decide to hang around and possibly rape that chick.

What the actual fuck?

That's not the only reason I don't like the show. I could go on and on. It's a load of horseshit and it's terrible.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 19 2015 02:21 GMT
#9272
TBH really wasn't impressed with the latest episode, don't know why though.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 03:54:31
October 19 2015 03:52 GMT
#9273
On October 19 2015 11:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
TBH really wasn't impressed with the latest episode, don't know why though.


Not much happened. Sure they were attacked, but half the scenes were the same things over and over, just with different characters.

Carol runs around killing people.
Other people run around killing people.
The bad guys run around killing people.
Morgan runs around not killing people.

Not like there was a real strategy or anything to stopping them. Was literally just run around killing them until they are all gone. No main characters died, and the only plot relevant thing apart from that was the photos alluding to this only being a raid, not a full scale attack. Could have easily put more into the episode.

Then there was also the introduction being wasted on not Carl's girlfriend after the cliffhanger of the last episode.

I also hated the scene where the mom was attacked by that woman who just happened to be the only bad guy not armed with a melee weapon, and who decided to be nice and calmly get the gun rather than savagely beating the mom's head against the counters like every other bad guy would have done.
politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 04:32:53
October 19 2015 04:32 GMT
#9274
On October 19 2015 12:52 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 11:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
TBH really wasn't impressed with the latest episode, don't know why though.


Not much happened. Sure they were attacked, but half the scenes were the same things over and over, just with different characters.

Carol runs around killing people.
Other people run around killing people.
The bad guys run around killing people.
Morgan runs around not killing people.

Not like there was a real strategy or anything to stopping them. Was literally just run around killing them until they are all gone. No main characters died, and the only plot relevant thing apart from that was the photos alluding to this only being a raid, not a full scale attack. Could have easily put more into the episode.

Then there was also the introduction being wasted on not Carl's girlfriend after the cliffhanger of the last episode.

I also hated the scene where the mom was attacked by that woman who just happened to be the only bad guy not armed with a melee weapon, and who decided to be nice and calmly get the gun rather than savagely beating the mom's head against the counters like every other bad guy would have done.


The photos were carried by the curly haired dude's boyfriend, finding them meant he died.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 19 2015 04:48 GMT
#9275
On October 19 2015 13:32 politik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 12:52 killa_robot wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
TBH really wasn't impressed with the latest episode, don't know why though.


Not much happened. Sure they were attacked, but half the scenes were the same things over and over, just with different characters.

Carol runs around killing people.
Other people run around killing people.
The bad guys run around killing people.
Morgan runs around not killing people.

Not like there was a real strategy or anything to stopping them. Was literally just run around killing them until they are all gone. No main characters died, and the only plot relevant thing apart from that was the photos alluding to this only being a raid, not a full scale attack. Could have easily put more into the episode.

Then there was also the introduction being wasted on not Carl's girlfriend after the cliffhanger of the last episode.

I also hated the scene where the mom was attacked by that woman who just happened to be the only bad guy not armed with a melee weapon, and who decided to be nice and calmly get the gun rather than savagely beating the mom's head against the counters like every other bad guy would have done.


The photos were carried by the curly haired dude's boyfriend, finding them meant he died.


False. Aaron broke down after finding his bag, and his photos because he feels responsible. He lost the bag last season, and was recovered by the Wolves guy. Aaron's boyfriend was in the infirmary along with Eugune, Tara, and Denise.
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 07:30:07
October 19 2015 07:09 GMT
#9276
+ Show Spoiler +
is emo girl a mole?

edit: nvm, maybe not, just a thought while watching the episode when i posted this

edit 2: ok maybe yes, i remember hearing what she said "that's how WE were able to..." then she got cut off by carl
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 19 2015 08:46 GMT
#9277
Damn what a sick episode! Such a bloody massacre! One of the best eps ever. This season is off to a great start!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
October 19 2015 11:53 GMT
#9278
How did these barbarians - dressed in rags, fighting with primitive melee weapons and possibly cannibals - survive this long? And if assaulting other people is basically all they do, why are they so bad at it and why do they not have any firearms?
CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
October 19 2015 13:01 GMT
#9279
On October 19 2015 20:53 Scorch wrote:
How did these barbarians - dressed in rags, fighting with primitive melee weapons and possibly cannibals - survive this long? And if assaulting other people is basically all they do, why are they so bad at it and why do they not have any firearms?


Certainly someone intelligent/manipulative leads them. So bad at it? Disorganized that's certain but i'm sure they reach their goal by catching/killing people and spreading terror. I wonder how big their group is, what's their motive, guess we'll need to be patient..can't wait!
Justice Crash
Profile Joined August 2015
32 Posts
October 19 2015 13:07 GMT
#9280
On October 19 2015 20:53 Scorch wrote:
How did these barbarians - dressed in rags, fighting with primitive melee weapons and possibly cannibals - survive this long? And if assaulting other people is basically all they do, why are they so bad at it and why do they not have any firearms?


Completely agree. Pretty bullshit episode IMO. It's better when villains are actually somewhat intelligent.
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