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Grettin
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
i love this | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On March 20 2014 03:37 Djzapz wrote: I still can't understand why Carol and Tyreese were perfectly fine letting her go around freely with a firearm after they saw her "playing" with her "friend" the walker. As far as I'm concerned, they're responsible for the death of both the kids. being compassionate towards walkers and thinking they're more than just worthless deadhead killers should have led them to believe she'd butcher her own sister? I'm not quite sure that makes sense. Not to mention, in the Zombie Apocalypse, you basically must be armed in some fashion at all times. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Mica really should have told Carol what happened with that crippled walker. Even then I'm not sure that would have triggered a sudden worry over Lizzie killing any of them. I think killing Lizzie was definitely a sort-of mercy killing. She had no place in that world and was a danger to everyone she came across, not to mention herself. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On March 20 2014 03:52 Cloud9157 wrote: Honestly, I don't think they knew she was a blossoming sociopath. They knew she was delusional, but that doesn't necessarily translate to being a sociopath. Never had she harmed another human being(though I'm still skeptical over the deaths of Karen+David), so there was no reason to distrust her with a firearm. We as viewers, of course, saw her as a threat because we saw every interaction she had with everyone. Mica really should have told Carol what happened with that crippled walker. Even then I'm not sure that would have triggered a sudden worry over Lizzie killing any of them. I think killing Lizzie was definitely a sort-of mercy killing. She had no place in that world and was a danger to everyone she came across, not to mention herself. She had openly admitted to Carol that she killed people at the prison. There's were tons of signs. They just refused to believe it. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On March 20 2014 04:34 killa_robot wrote: She had openly admitted to Carol that she killed people at the prison. There's were tons of signs. They just refused to believe it. Killed people that were attacking her friends and family. Theres a difference between her claiming she killed people in self defense and her claiming she killed people for no reason. All that did was show she had remorse for killing live beings, exact opposite of what she felt near the end of her life. | ||
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ConGee
318 Posts
On March 19 2014 07:45 BliptiX wrote: More comic spoilers from past events: + Show Spoiler + The two girls in the show and comic are quite different. Hershel has two little girls in the comics whom he finds beheaded in the prison. You find out that the murderer was one of the prison inmates from the cafeteria when they first entered the prison. The two girls in the show roughly followed the story of two boys from the comics that were the children of a to be deceased couple from way back at the first camp outside Atlanta. One of the boys kills his brother at about the same point that Lizzy kills her sister in the show. + Show Spoiler + Essentially with similar reasoning in that: "It's okay. I didn't hurt the brain." The deaths of the psychotic children were handled really differently though. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On March 20 2014 03:52 crms wrote: being compassionate towards walkers and thinking they're more than just worthless deadhead killers should have led them to believe she'd butcher her own sister? I'm not quite sure that makes sense. Not to mention, in the Zombie Apocalypse, you basically must be armed in some fashion at all times. She was a danger to herself if she was willing to play catch with a walker. So even if she wasn't obviously going to kill her sister, she was clearly not fit to be out with a gun. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On March 20 2014 04:36 Zooper31 wrote: Killed people that were attacking her friends and family. Theres a difference between her claiming she killed people in self defense and her claiming she killed people for no reason. All that did was show she had remorse for killing live beings, exact opposite of what she felt near the end of her life. Carol knew that she had mental problems. You could see her reaction when the little sister told Lizzie, "Look at the flowers and count to 3 like you're supposed to." That scene made it obvious that Lizzie had been in some sort of mental care previously. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On March 20 2014 05:17 Cel.erity wrote: Carol knew that she had mental problems. You could see her reaction when the little sister told Lizzie, "Look at the flowers and count to 3 like you're supposed to." That scene made it obvious that Lizzie had been in some sort of mental care previously. Or it was just a simple way they found out to calm Lizzie down. I don't know how you could connect that sequence with Lizzie being in mental care previously. That's a common way to calm emotions down, punching a pillow when you're angry, counting to 10 with deep breaths etc. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On March 20 2014 05:19 Zooper31 wrote: Or it was just a simple way they found out to calm Lizzie down. I don't know how you could connect that sequence with Lizzie being in mental care previously. That's a common way to calm emotions down, punching a pillow when you're angry, counting to 10 with deep breaths etc. It means she has a history of panic attacks like the one she displayed in that scene, and that there's a routine she's supposed to follow when those attacks occur. Carol had a look of fear/shock when she heard it, so obviously she interpreted it the same way. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On March 20 2014 05:21 Cel.erity wrote: It means she has a history of panic attacks like the one she displayed in that scene, and that there's a routine she's supposed to follow when those attacks occur. Carol had a look of fear/shock when she heard it, so obviously she interpreted it the same way. And then she showed Carol she was fine in handling Walkers when they all had that shootout and Carol had an almost relieved look on her face. And then again that night she said "she knew what she had to do now" re-assuring Carol. Though Mika should've alerted Carol that her big sister was feeding a Walker and caused the problem in the first place. She was crazy, we all saw the signs, the characters in the show don't even have half the information we had to go with. On top of the fact the world they are living in they didn't exactly have much time to relax and ponder about the mentally insane signs a young girl growing up in a zombie world might be showing and/or how to deal with it. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On March 18 2014 22:18 -Archangel- wrote: Leaving her behind would have been a morally easier choice (something that Rick would do probably), but killing her was probably the better choice to stop her or anyone else's agony. If they leave her they don't directly have her blood on their hands but she will either get killed by zombies which is much more painful than a bullet to the head or she would run into some other group of people and possibly cause more deaths down the line (or die of hunger or something similar which is a terrible way to die). They could take her with her, but that would be too much of a risk in their situation. Also if they didn't kill her like that it wouldn't mimic the plot to Of Mice and Men. Personally I absolutely love the 2 Beth & Daryll episodes preceding this one; I thought I was going to hate their dynamic together, but turns out it was quite the opposite. (And no I don't think it's building up to a romance which is what makes it enjoyable rather than dull) | ||
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TerransHill
Germany572 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On March 20 2014 21:43 TerransHill wrote: Loved the Fallout reference in the beginning of this episode whether it was intended or not. Pretty sure it was! Could hardly be a coincidence. | ||
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KUNGJAH
Sweden53 Posts
On March 20 2014 00:13 Grettin wrote: THANK FUCKING GOD SHE SHOT HER. Holy shit this episode was torture. couldnt agree more.... what a terrible episode. its pretty sad when the highlight of the episode is a execution of child | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32071 Posts
Otherwise, I did like it a lot. I still do not really care for how disjointed this whole season is | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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kwizach
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