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TheExile19
513 Posts
On February 22 2013 17:50 Hashbaz wrote: I've yet to make it past the first paragraph of an exile post. if you're having trouble following along, you can always toss me a pm. seriously though, I'm chilling until sunday and will keep any thoughts I have then short because it's apparent that 1) most people clearly won't read point-by-point posts 2) too many of these posts lately are about me and not the actual show. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
These past two episodes have changed my mind, this show is still kinda sucky and the only thing that keeps it afloat is my fascination with the idea of a zombie apocalypse. If you had these characters + the writing in any other television drama I think I would have stopped watching long ago. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On February 22 2013 07:26 TheExile19 wrote: it's about liking to argue and seeing if valid counterarguments to my views exist, in this case on the level of basic scriptwriting and plot. also, TWD usually has 10-15 minutes that justify the watch if I'm seriously that bored during, which I certainly have been lately. Well, glad to hear. First step of getting better is admitting what's wrong in the first place, after all. I don't even disagree with most of what you say. Yeah, the show has a lot of flaws, and a lot of those flaws lie in character development. The show could (and used to) be a lot better, and there are scenes that make me roll my eyes, too. But you come here on every other page writing paragraph after paragraph of what's wrong with the show, in quite regular intervals. And it still gives me the impression you're writing another long, ranting paragraph as soon as people have stopped responding to your last one. This isn't a debate club. This isn't about winning your arguments at all costs. This is a thread in appreciation(!) of a TV show on a random internet forum. No one is going to endlessly argue with you just for the sake of it. | ||
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
On February 21 2013 00:57 nitram wrote: Director should get punched in the face for that gun fight. I haven't seen a gunfight that bad since the 80's shooting blanks is hard to do bro. And EXPENSIVE Why couldn't this be done by HBO/STARZ or something? Just imagine the glorious budget! is Tyrese really gone? | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On February 23 2013 00:28 purecarnagge wrote: is Tyrese really gone? No way. His group will surely be back to help resolve the Governor conflict storyline. | ||
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
Really, we ask for so little. -More violence/gore -Exploration of moral gray areas -Character growth/decay/change -Intelligent decisions by characters | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
With that said, it is WAY too soon to be shitting on this show. People love jumping the gun on calling shows terrible and pointing out all the flaws. Give it some time for god's sake. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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ItanoCircus
United States67 Posts
Don't Like Don't Read is a double-edged sword used by fans that want their cake and to eat it too. If you watch the show, dislike parts of it, and post specific complaints, fans will ask you why you even bothered watching it in the first place rather than attempt to counter the argument presented. However, if you dislike a show and haven't watched it, fans will ask you why you hate a show you don't watch. This is dishonest of fans in general, and TWD is no exception. In a series (trilogies, comics, television shows still ongoing, etc) there is a high chance that the answer to a complaint will be answered in due time. If an issue is presented and an answer isn't forthcoming given previous material or background, reasonable and articulate complaints can be made that the show/series/books are destroying your Willing Suspension of Disbelief. Willing Suspension of Disbelief - The trick you give your mind to watch something that can't happen or isn't realistic and accept it as long as it's internally consistent. Do I share some of TheExile19's concerns? Yes, and I love TWD. It's overall a pretty good show, and I'll continue to watch it. At the same time, I don't share all of TheExile19's beliefs on the failings of the show. However, being a fan of a more positive mindset does not relegate myself, and by extension other fans, to the role of a zealous die-hard fan willingly overlooking all possible blunders. Even my use of Fanon doesn't cover all the gaps. Fanon - When a fan creates an internally logical reason to cover an apparent Plot Hole and not in contradiction to the stated explanations of the work's creators. In summation: Be more honest with yourselves about the show. | ||
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Rush042
Canada121 Posts
On February 23 2013 17:21 ItanoCircus wrote: Willing Suspension of Disbelief - The trick you give your mind to watch something that can't happen or isn't realistic and accept it as long as it's internally consistent. This is actually something I have had a problem with in this season of TWD. While I enjoyed the first half of season three, I really dislike the person on person fire fights the show has been doing recently, because it doesn't feel consistent to me. When the show is mostly about the choices people make, and what humanity will become during a zombie apocalypse, I'm willing to excuse things like the extremely high headshot rate on Zombies while in a moving vehicle, but when that is scrapped suddenly so that there can be a gunfight with no major characters dying, it frustrates me. To see an action sequence of entire clips being emptied with absolutely no hits.. it's not what I watch the show for, it's not consistent with itself. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
Every director should study the Downtown LA shootout in Heat before doing a shootout scene. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=665_1337786787 | ||
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On February 23 2013 19:54 LoLAdriankat wrote: That's an issue most directors have; they can't portray firefights correctly. Whoever's in charge of TWD firefights seem to have some idea of what a firefight is like - a lot of suppressing fire and time spent behind cover. That's about it. There was an awful lot of concealment = cover going on. The things is that TWD show has never been even close to realistic when it comes to guns. From Hershel's magical shotgun with unilimited ammo to everyones incredible markmanship that allows them a 100% zombie headshot ratio no matter the distance or situation. Also, the whole firefight started with the wounded Governor landing a headshot in his first try with a Steyr AUG from long range. The whole thing is just retarded. You can still enjoy TWD if you shut down your brain, but it just reeks of B grade movie with the very rare moments of brilliance. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
Darryl is my fav character cause he comes off as a bad ass who doesn't care about anyone in the beginning but he really shone in season 2 with the search for sophia. I really don't know why people didn't like season 2. It was great! Finally caught up to the latest ep yesterday and I can't wait for next ep! Kind of sad I didn't start watching this show sooner, but then I also didn't have to wait for eps and could do a marathon viewing session last week from the beginning. I do want carl to slap his dad and go, "Stop fucking hallucinating man and pull yourself together. I'm just a kid who shot his own mom and I'm not as messed up as you!."  | ||
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Impervious
Canada4212 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I live a 20 minute walk from where this shit took place. -_- | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
Carol had a dude's brains splattered all over her while he was in the middle of telling her a joke, and she's doing just fine -.- | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On February 23 2013 19:54 LoLAdriankat wrote: That's an issue most directors have; they can't portray firefights correctly. Whoever's in charge of TWD firefights seem to have some idea of what a firefight is like - a lot of suppressing fire and time spent behind cover. That's about it. There was an awful lot of concealment = cover going on. Every director should study the Downtown LA shootout in Heat before doing a shootout scene. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=665_1337786787 Agree. Most of the things in the show is ridiculous, but I still love it regardless. You are right about firefights between humans. A lot of people believe that firefights is what you see when you play Call of Duty or Battlefield. The director has the right idea, but it was not executed properly. It was cringe worthy seeing the characters shooting their weapons with unlimited ammo and non-existent recoil. In other news... + Show Spoiler + Cool to see Tyreese and co back for a short period. | ||
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TheExile19
513 Posts
 "45 minutes and it's been nothing but setup and a payoff for a subplot that shouldn't exist, i.e. andrea needing multiple arguments for why the governor is a nut and why singing kumbaya isn't an option. holy shit she's going back to woodbury. why? why is the only good music in the show being played for andrea driving away? | ||
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Patpoose
United States29 Posts
Never thought he would side with the fuck face governor. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On February 25 2013 11:52 Patpoose wrote: Really angry how they are portraying Tyrese. + Show Spoiler + Never thought he would side with the fuck face governor. + Show Spoiler + Same here, I keep thinking WTF Hoping Andrea follows Carol's advice about assassinating the governor but I doubt it. | ||
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