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On November 05 2012 16:02 teamsolid wrote: It kinda sucks whenever someone goes "soft" (or shows some humanity), they die the very same episode. First it was Dale and now T-Dog.
scumbag writers, develop characters kill them off same episode.
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I believe his reaction was more in the realization of what Carl had to do. Don't get me wrong Lori was probably a big part, but it seemed to me like he really lost it after he saw the solemn look on Carl's face.
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On November 05 2012 15:59 Wrathsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 15:57 killa_robot wrote: They can't make Lori act stupid anymore, so they get the baby to take her place as a plot device lol.
T-dog dead, immediately replaced by another black guy. So much for the writers saying they had big things planned for him.
All in all decent episode. Would have preferred if Rick didn't care so much about Lori dying though. I mean, last episode he could barely touch her, now he suddenly cares about her this much? His reaction to T-dog, a guy he got along with much better, was a moment of silence, and for Lori, the person he could barely stand to be near this whole time, he broke down and cried? do u know what it feels like to lose ur wife?
Just because he was mad at her doesn't mean he didn't still love her. I'm married and I know that even though we haven't ever had tough times like them lol there are moments where I hate her and still love her xD. I thought his acting in that scene was amazing, I truly believe that man just lost his wife...
and I can't believe they killed T-Dogg, such bullshit...
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Was hard to stop myself from laughing during the whole Lori death thing, but absolutely lost it when rick was like 'OoOh NoOoO'
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Hmm... what is the story with the random black dude that sounded off the alarms? Was he working with moustache white dude and t-dog replacement black dude? How did the group miss him before? Who the f is he?
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On November 05 2012 16:17 Resent wrote: Was hard to stop myself from laughing during the whole Lori death thing, but absolutely lost it when rick was like 'OoOh NoOoO'
I felt the exact same way. I laughed hard while Lori was dying. It made me so happy to see that fucking character die but when I saw Ricks reaction to it the scene became very real to me. I felt for Rick and the boy(man) Carl. That was an intense scene which I thoroughly enjoyed.
My hatred of Lori surprises me. Die BITCH die! >
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On November 05 2012 16:24 SmokeMonster wrote: Hmm... what is the story with the random black dude that sounded off the alarms? Was he working with moustache white dude and t-dog replacement black dude? How did the group miss him before? Who the f is he?
Rick locked him outside... literally like two episodes ago.
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On November 05 2012 16:24 SmokeMonster wrote: Hmm... what is the story with the random black dude that sounded off the alarms? Was he working with moustache white dude and t-dog replacement black dude? How did the group miss him before? Who the f is he?
rick chased him out earlier in ep.1 or ep.2 and left him outside, guess he never died.
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On November 05 2012 15:57 killa_robot wrote: They can't make Lori act stupid anymore, so they get the baby to take her place as a plot device lol.
T-dog dead, immediately replaced by another black guy. So much for the writers saying they had big things planned for him.
All in all decent episode. Would have preferred if Rick didn't care so much about Lori dying though. I mean, last episode he could barely touch her, now he suddenly cares about her this much? His reaction to T-dog, a guy he got along with much better, was a moment of silence, and for Lori, the person he could barely stand to be near this whole time, he broke down and cried? All due respect, Rick knew T-dog for like around a year (?), whereas he has been with his wife for something like 10-15 years. This is leaving out the fact that she was his spouse. Even if Rick was estranged from her for the moment its completely understandable that he would be far more torn up over losing Lori.
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On November 05 2012 13:37 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 13:28 Mordiford wrote:On November 05 2012 13:20 p4NDemik wrote: This is the episode where they're probably on the cusp on putting together an exceptional 45 minutes of television. That said I think its the point at which I've come to realize even if this continues to improve I will be constantly disappointed that it is not the comics.
If the comics are dark, the TV show is a pale shade of gray in comparison. They're both eventually going to go down as great achievements in their medium, and they deserve to, but watching past this season will probably only result in continued disappointment from me that Kirkman and the producers didn't try to push the envelope as much as he did in the comics.
This is the last post I plan on even mentioning the comics. This episode is pretty much a clean break, the setting is the same, the names and appearance of a number of characters are the same, but there is only a shred of plot that still keeps these two stories connected. Doesn't mean the show is bad, its just now radically different, and comparing it with the comics is pointless imo. Honestly, sometimes I didn't so much feel the comics were pushing the envelope as trying too hard to shock me. There are so many moments in the comics that genuinely make me feel that way. So I guess I'm glad the producers didn't try to, "push the envelope" as much. I can definitely understand where you're coming from, I know you're not the only one that feels that way. Difference of opinions. I guess the thing that gets to me the most is they have pretty much avoided every major plot twist post-Carl getting shot by dumbass Otis (or mucked it up massively as with the Sophia/barn thing imo). As someone whose continued excitement after season 1 was pretty much predicated on my overwhelming satisfaction with the comic rather than the quality of the show up until that point it would be cool to see at least one or two elements of the plot from the comic carried over. While I've enjoyed this season to a limited extent I've been basically stringing myself along waiting for one of these moments from the comic to come to life on screen. At this point it looks like that pretty much just isn't possible anymore. This is an issue that is keeping me personally from fully enjoying the show and I don't expect anyone else to feel this way nor will I argue with you if you don't. I'm just resigning myself to completely giving up on any more of the comic getting mixed into the show, which I should have done a while ago tbh. I think I would have felt the same way if I had read the comics, which is why i'm kinda glad I never did. I do plan on reading them and I think I can appreciate both the comics and the show as two different stories knowing that they have so little in common.
I did, however, silently wish it to be more like the comics because everyone was hyping up how awesome they were.
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On November 05 2012 16:33 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 15:57 killa_robot wrote: They can't make Lori act stupid anymore, so they get the baby to take her place as a plot device lol.
T-dog dead, immediately replaced by another black guy. So much for the writers saying they had big things planned for him.
All in all decent episode. Would have preferred if Rick didn't care so much about Lori dying though. I mean, last episode he could barely touch her, now he suddenly cares about her this much? His reaction to T-dog, a guy he got along with much better, was a moment of silence, and for Lori, the person he could barely stand to be near this whole time, he broke down and cried? All due respect, Rick knew T-dog for like around a year (?), whereas he has been with his wife for something like 10-15 years. This is leaving out the fact that she was his spouse. Even if Rick was estranged from her for the moment its completely understandable that he would be far more torn up over losing Lori.
True, but people and their emotions change. Rick had to deal with his wife cheating on him, to the point of replacing him and possibly having a child with another man. There's also the fact that, at the very least since the end of the second season (which was months ago in their world), Rick has been very cold and distant with Lori, to the point where when she risked her life, he basically just gave her a distant thank you and left it at that. He had no real concern for her well being, like only a couple weeks ago. Lori even said they would have gotten a divorce by now earlier, had the possibility been there.
I'm fine with him not being overly concerned with T-dog, but then he just loses it when he hears about Lori? The relationship had been broken for months in their world. Being upset I could understand, flat out breaking down l don't get given all that previously happened.
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So ends an era... of the worst character ever made for a series.
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On November 05 2012 17:22 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 16:33 p4NDemik wrote:On November 05 2012 15:57 killa_robot wrote: They can't make Lori act stupid anymore, so they get the baby to take her place as a plot device lol.
T-dog dead, immediately replaced by another black guy. So much for the writers saying they had big things planned for him.
All in all decent episode. Would have preferred if Rick didn't care so much about Lori dying though. I mean, last episode he could barely touch her, now he suddenly cares about her this much? His reaction to T-dog, a guy he got along with much better, was a moment of silence, and for Lori, the person he could barely stand to be near this whole time, he broke down and cried? All due respect, Rick knew T-dog for like around a year (?), whereas he has been with his wife for something like 10-15 years. This is leaving out the fact that she was his spouse. Even if Rick was estranged from her for the moment its completely understandable that he would be far more torn up over losing Lori. True, but people and their emotions change. Rick had to deal with his wife cheating on him, to the point of replacing him and possibly having a child with another man. There's also the fact that, at the very least since the end of the second season (which was months ago in their world), Rick has been very cold and distant with Lori, to the point where when she risked her life, he basically just gave her a distant thank you and left it at that. He had no real concern for her well being, like only a couple weeks ago. Lori even said they would have gotten a divorce by now earlier, had the possibility been there. I'm fine with him not being overly concerned with T-dog, but then he just loses it when he hears about Lori? The relationship had been broken for months in their world. Being upset I could understand, flat out breaking down l don't get given all that previously happened. Even though Rick grew to hate her, you have to remember he spent a good portion of his life being happily married to her. All the memories they have together, the influence she had on his life, she's the mother of his child, etc.
An ex of mine did something to me that hurt me deeply and I despised her for it, but she still had a pretty big influence on my life and I get a weird feeling thinking about it.
I don't really know if I can make you understand, it's probably something that needs a bit of life experience to comprehend.
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yo like... where there's a [TV] in the title, can we get some isolation from all the comic books? I know it is posted, but it really isn't enforced that well... I am afraid to read a certain person's post I am not going to name, for instance, for it is drawing comparisons. I am afraid to come to this thread. I propose someone starting an only comic thread, because I'm not "up to date", and I don't want to know the differences.
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DAT FLASHBACK. This series is so fucking good. It makes up for what season 2 was.
My eyes right now O.O.
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T dawg nooooooooooooo ! He went out like a hero so I'm not that disapointed.
On the other hand I'm glad they killed of Lori but now how is the baby gonna survive without mothers milk and in a world where food is a luxury and milk is nonexistant. Carl is like a different character this season and the previous ones and now he resembles his comic counterpart.
Well if the little black guy suvived a horde of zombies then I'm gonna go with the prediction that Lori is not dead and she will be back to be more hated with her whiny bitch personality + the baby needs milk :D
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On November 05 2012 17:22 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 16:33 p4NDemik wrote:On November 05 2012 15:57 killa_robot wrote: They can't make Lori act stupid anymore, so they get the baby to take her place as a plot device lol.
T-dog dead, immediately replaced by another black guy. So much for the writers saying they had big things planned for him.
All in all decent episode. Would have preferred if Rick didn't care so much about Lori dying though. I mean, last episode he could barely touch her, now he suddenly cares about her this much? His reaction to T-dog, a guy he got along with much better, was a moment of silence, and for Lori, the person he could barely stand to be near this whole time, he broke down and cried? All due respect, Rick knew T-dog for like around a year (?), whereas he has been with his wife for something like 10-15 years. This is leaving out the fact that she was his spouse. Even if Rick was estranged from her for the moment its completely understandable that he would be far more torn up over losing Lori. True, but people and their emotions change. Rick had to deal with his wife cheating on him, to the point of replacing him and possibly having a child with another man. There's also the fact that, at the very least since the end of the second season (which was months ago in their world), Rick has been very cold and distant with Lori, to the point where when she risked her life, he basically just gave her a distant thank you and left it at that. He had no real concern for her well being, like only a couple weeks ago. Lori even said they would have gotten a divorce by now earlier, had the possibility been there. I'm fine with him not being overly concerned with T-dog, but then he just loses it when he hears about Lori? The relationship had been broken for months in their world. Being upset I could understand, flat out breaking down l don't get given all that previously happened.
Have you ever been in a serious long term relationship? That scene was very painful for me to watch, I can totally understand Rick's pain. When you spend years married to someone and share every aspect of your life with them, even if you're extremely annoyed or disgusted with them for a long period of time, you still feel for them. It's kind of hard for someone to understand if they've never been in that situation I guess. Thinking back to my youth I don't think I'd have understood it, actually.
On November 05 2012 17:33 LoLAdriankat wrote: An ex of mine did something to me that hurt me deeply and I despised her for it, but she still had a pretty big influence on my life and I get a weird feeling thinking about it.
I don't really know if I can make you understand, it's probably something that needs a bit of life experience to comprehend.
Indeed. Even now all these years later and relationships later I still care what happens to my ex-wife, and we ended it mutually on a very sour note, but we spent years of our lives together. Life and feelings are so complicated. Heh.
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On November 05 2012 19:22 SkelA wrote: T dawg nooooooooooooo ! He went out like a hero so I'm not that disapointed.
On the other hand I'm glad they killed of Lori but now how is the baby gonna survive without mothers milk and in a world where food is a luxury and milk is nonexistant. Carl is like a different character this season and the previous ones and now he resembles his comic counterpart.
Well if the little black guy suvived a horde of zombies then I'm gonna go with the prediction that Lori is not dead and she will be back to be more hated with her whiny bitch personality + the baby needs milk :D
they gutted her... and carl finished her... how is she coming back?
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On November 05 2012 19:22 SkelA wrote: T dawg nooooooooooooo ! He went out like a hero so I'm not that disapointed.
On the other hand I'm glad they killed of Lori but now how is the baby gonna survive without mothers milk and in a world where food is a luxury and milk is nonexistant. Carl is like a different character this season and the previous ones and now he resembles his comic counterpart.
Well if the little black guy suvived a horde of zombies then I'm gonna go with the prediction that Lori is not dead and she will be back to be more hated with her whiny bitch personality + the baby needs milk :D
I'm sure one of the other women will step to the plate and breast feed maybe (They are at a male prison, they probably most definetly have pills that assist with lactating).
Also, I thought Carl shot Lori?
Also, I forget, did Carol end up dying? They made it sound as if she never made it back.
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