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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
Vegro
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany19 Posts
October 27 2012 16:58 GMT
#4621
Yeah - first time posting here (Just found out about this thread, so I hope we can enjoy talking about it - btw. Hi there!).

true, swords just dont cut that easy through bones. beheading one person who is tied to a block is hard enough, two in one strike wont work 999 out of 1000 times. +swords (european or asian) need a lot of maintnence and care.
Well that might be true for the "normal" human, but the zombie corpses are rotting. The muscles and the flash is a lot easier to cut through + They made a lot of testing with swords and tried to cut through a pig with different types of swords and the basic Katana was (with the old 2handed sword) the best to cut through in 2-4 strikes. So a rotten neck (about the third of the pigbody in volume) should go through in a strike (Well handed).

To the Zombie discussion:

I love Zombie..stuff (movie/series/books) but never found something which realistilcy explains how the zombies are made. The Resident Evil logic for example demands that every zombie dies after 2-3 months (at the latest), but they are still walking around. In the walking dead I feel that the Zombies are much more alive then in other fictions. First they are capable of learning (carry zombies of the black woman & in the first season some Zombies tried to break through glass with stones / metal they picked up > finally crushing the glass) and I guess it was shown in the last episode of season 1 that the brain was only functioning in its core - but still had some "outbursts" to other stages of the brain "trying" to reach the normal dimension. I don't know if this implies the backpulse - communicating with the cortex, but if we consider this than we should be able to assume that:

1. Zombies are still somehow alive, hence the need to feed
2. Zombies are rotting slowly (Remember the prisonzombie who got his skin palled of with the mask?)
3. They are able to learn basic functions and have still a "random" memory (Pseudo-dead zombie who bit harshall)
4. To be able to stay alive they need to have some sort of digestion and "cellwork"

This means in theory:

1. Zombies will just plain fall down and die without food
2. Zombies could maybe be intigrated into some sort of normal live (if the random factor of the brainfunction could be messured, or the basic functions to learn have some sort of positive outcome)

My question now is:

1. Is it strange to assume that all the Zombies so far had food? (Remember we talk abot the US and they already traveld a long way - it was not a lot of zombies and the zombies of the first town were still "fresh")
2. If the is no digestion (like in resident evil) - why are there still zombies? Cuz they would either just burst (yummy) or collapse.

Oh and: If wounds doesnt affect them - wouldnt they die because of basic deseases? So actually - there is no way of "cellwork" (soory for the poor wording). Otherwise they should have like some sort of supercells because the muscles still get energy and they dont die because of the wounds.

Well I hope I got something into the discussion

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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 03:48:25
October 28 2012 03:36 GMT
#4622
On October 27 2012 12:39 LovE- wrote:
We haven't seen anyone die from a new zombie yet.. so why are you all so hell bent on it being from the saliva?
Maybe we will NEVER see anyone bit from a fresh zombie.. maybe we will. I think the point is that you die from the blood loss and infection it causes. Like with Jim, we had a small bite and it took awhile for him to get the fever and die. The same thing with the big guy we just saw get killed.. he was bit on his back and was okay (not going to die from blood loss) but those zombies were rotting and hell yeah they are going to carry a bunch of nasty diseases.


On October 27 2012 11:52 Requizen wrote:
The thing is, we were giving perfectly logical explanations for the bites being lethal despite not being mortal wounds, but they kept getting shot down for not being canon.

There is no canon explanation yet. Maybe there will be, maybe there won't. Complaining about something that doesn't exist is kind of pointless in the long run, don't you think?


The point is, you haven't given a logical explanation. I'm trying to theorize about something that fits in with everything we have so far. I gave the counter-argument that the bacteria in your mouth explanation makes no sense; that you can't have accumulated that much bacteria over the 3 minutes to 8 hours after death. No one has been able to counter-attack this point properly. Instead it's all, "just enjoy the show," or, "we've only seen rotten zombies." Well, this discussion is more entertaining than saying Lori should die, and as for the second point, then it wouldn't make sense if the apocalypse started and the fresh zombies bit people and the people survived.

On October 27 2012 14:10 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 11:25 Blisse wrote:
If you don't care whether there's consistency in the series over how zombies reproduce, then so be it. Then you should also shut up if Rick turns into a zombie next episode, because the director wanted that to happen. Or if all zombies could fly from now on, that should be okay with you. I see nothing wrong with discussing the points of zombification. I do see something wrong when people try to stifle discussion by posting essentially, "your opinions are irrelevant." I'd rather be curious about why the director and producer chose this decision about the zombies than be complacent about everything they do, like you few are.


If a producer wants his work of zombies to be taken seriously, he needs a consistent basis upon which he projects his own views onto. In simpler terms, it means that he can take the zombies from the Walking Dead comic series and put his own spin on the zombies. For example, that the zombies in Season 1 could run, climb over fences, and use rocks to smash the windows. That was accepted because it was his take on the zombies. However, you'll notice that onwards from Season 1, all of those ideas were scrapped completely. I haven't seen a "smart" zombie since, and that inconsistency really annoys the more hardcore zombie people, but most of us have accepted that they just messed up big time in the first season. All of this is a result of questioning the decisions of the director and producer.


When something happens in a show or in real life, you should wonder, why? Why is the sky blue? Why do people turn into zombies when they're bit? If they're bit one way, they die, but if they're bit another way, they live. What does that mean? I find that enjoyable, and some others enjoy discussing it too, so stop shitting on people's discussions.


See, you didn't read what I said.

If they kill off Rick (ZOMBIE RICK RAAAAAAAWRRRRRR) and people criticized it, thats fine, BECAUSE IT IS THE WRITING. When people question things that still have no canon basis (as someone was kind enough to mention), that just makes no sense. There have been few, if ANY movie/comic/tv show about zombies that actually explain the physics behind zombies and how they transfer the infection or disease. You know why? Because it doesn't matter. They want to explore the realm on how people survive and react in a world crowded with once-humans that want to eat you, as well as the psyche behind people dealing with other people.

If they wanted to explore the actual world of zombies, they would explain it more. They would make things up like the Resident Evil universe did with the T-virus and such. But because that isn't the focus of the series, they aren't going to go into detail.


I know what the focus of the series is, thank you very much. I probably follow both, and zombies in general, way more than you, so don't assume I'm don't know how to enjoy the show, thanks.

The difference between your two points is that that's a narrative decision. I'm talking about a basis of the show. They can progress the plot to the point where Rick dies. They can't just introduce new versions of the zombies, such as letting them run, without introducing that idea of the zombies. These are ideas that are ingrained in the existence of the show; i.e. part of the consistency of the premises (of the show).

I have never expressed an interest except in how Darabont represents his zombies. And to understand how you represent his zombies, you have to explore how his zombies interact with the world. I reject the previous conclusions based on the fact (or idea) that an apocalypse could not have started with such a "weak" zombie". eshlow has a good explanation for the virus because it uses ideas that are certainly provable. 100% lethal bacteria forming between 3 minutes and 8 hours after death? Not so much.

I am more intrigued by why the zombie bite is fatal. And eshlow's answer was the kind of response I was hoping to get. And it was an enjoyable read. And it covered more bases than the bacterial explanation. It really doesn't matter to me that Kirkman says that the bite doesn't kill, because it doesn't cover what goes on behind the bite, in particular, why a human bite versus a zombie bite is so much more devastating. I want to say that a zombie bites ferociously since he has no sense of how hard to bite, and that's why the blood loss is a lot more lethal. The resulting infection is handled nicely by the saliva and eshlow's explanation.


@the swords not being as effective, they wouldn't be in a "true" apocalypse, but all the scenes we have seen are of more advanced decompositions. Not really any beheadings of recently turned corpses, so the idea that the flesh is very rotten, like the bicycle girl from S1E01, and not-that-optimal-weapons sort of works I guess, but I don't like that point either, in terms of zombie apocalypse consistency.


@vegro, zombies don't need food. They have some weird instinct where they just want to eat living flesh. They have unlimited energy, so they don't tire. Those are some of the main "points" of zombies. This is the basis of the science fiction. I'm pretty sure most zombie representations only keeps those two points, plus the idea that dying somehow causes reanimation, in mind.

It's debatable whether they have memories right now, but the thing in S1E01 kind of says they have a really limited memory, but nothing that could, change the plot, I guess. The flesh the zombie eats just fills up the stomach. I believe there was something somewhere in other fictions where they said when a zombie without a stomach eats (i.e. a hole in the stomach), the food just falls out. I guess we can use that since it makes sense and doesn't seem to counteract anything else we've seen.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 28 2012 03:49 GMT
#4623
On October 28 2012 12:36 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 12:39 LovE- wrote:
We haven't seen anyone die from a new zombie yet.. so why are you all so hell bent on it being from the saliva?
Maybe we will NEVER see anyone bit from a fresh zombie.. maybe we will. I think the point is that you die from the blood loss and infection it causes. Like with Jim, we had a small bite and it took awhile for him to get the fever and die. The same thing with the big guy we just saw get killed.. he was bit on his back and was okay (not going to die from blood loss) but those zombies were rotting and hell yeah they are going to carry a bunch of nasty diseases.


Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 11:52 Requizen wrote:
The thing is, we were giving perfectly logical explanations for the bites being lethal despite not being mortal wounds, but they kept getting shot down for not being canon.

There is no canon explanation yet. Maybe there will be, maybe there won't. Complaining about something that doesn't exist is kind of pointless in the long run, don't you think?


The point is, you haven't given a logical explanation. I'm trying to theorize about something that fits in with everything we have so far. I gave the counter-argument that the bacteria in your mouth explanation makes no sense; that you can't have accumulated that much bacteria over the 3 minutes to 8 hours after death. No one has been able to counter-attack this point properly. Instead it's all, "Oh, just enjoy the show." Well, this discussion is more entertaining than debating whether or not Lori should die.



The point was made that we haven't seen a "fresh" zombie attack anything. You're right, there's a good chance that a "fresh zombie" wouldn't kill with a non-lethal bite, but we haven't seen that happen ever. So until it does, it's a completely moot point, so why are you getting so worked up over it? It's highly likely that you're right, and we admit that. But a rotted corpse (which 90% of the ones we've seen in the show are), would have disease and rot in their mouth to kill.

So until it happens, talking about it is pointless, because no "side" can give any sort of evidence, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
October 28 2012 03:50 GMT
#4624
Finally caught up to both the latest episode of the new season and the latest issue of the comics.

I feel like the show found the right blend of action and drama to make it worthwhile to watch as opposed to last season.

The comic on the other hand... Issue #100 made me rage. It made me rage pretty hard. However, I should have seen it coming from a mile away.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
October 28 2012 04:25 GMT
#4625
On October 28 2012 12:36 Blisse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 12:39 LovE- wrote:
We haven't seen anyone die from a new zombie yet.. so why are you all so hell bent on it being from the saliva?
Maybe we will NEVER see anyone bit from a fresh zombie.. maybe we will. I think the point is that you die from the blood loss and infection it causes. Like with Jim, we had a small bite and it took awhile for him to get the fever and die. The same thing with the big guy we just saw get killed.. he was bit on his back and was okay (not going to die from blood loss) but those zombies were rotting and hell yeah they are going to carry a bunch of nasty diseases.


Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 11:52 Requizen wrote:
The thing is, we were giving perfectly logical explanations for the bites being lethal despite not being mortal wounds, but they kept getting shot down for not being canon.

There is no canon explanation yet. Maybe there will be, maybe there won't. Complaining about something that doesn't exist is kind of pointless in the long run, don't you think?


The point is, you haven't given a logical explanation. I'm trying to theorize about something that fits in with everything we have so far. I gave the counter-argument that the bacteria in your mouth explanation makes no sense; that you can't have accumulated that much bacteria over the 3 minutes to 8 hours after death. No one has been able to counter-attack this point properly. Instead it's all, "just enjoy the show," or, "we've only seen rotten zombies." Well, this discussion is more entertaining than saying Lori should die, and as for the second point, then it wouldn't make sense if the apocalypse started and the fresh zombies bit people and the people survived.

Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 14:10 Cloud9157 wrote:
On October 27 2012 11:25 Blisse wrote:
If you don't care whether there's consistency in the series over how zombies reproduce, then so be it. Then you should also shut up if Rick turns into a zombie next episode, because the director wanted that to happen. Or if all zombies could fly from now on, that should be okay with you. I see nothing wrong with discussing the points of zombification. I do see something wrong when people try to stifle discussion by posting essentially, "your opinions are irrelevant." I'd rather be curious about why the director and producer chose this decision about the zombies than be complacent about everything they do, like you few are.


If a producer wants his work of zombies to be taken seriously, he needs a consistent basis upon which he projects his own views onto. In simpler terms, it means that he can take the zombies from the Walking Dead comic series and put his own spin on the zombies. For example, that the zombies in Season 1 could run, climb over fences, and use rocks to smash the windows. That was accepted because it was his take on the zombies. However, you'll notice that onwards from Season 1, all of those ideas were scrapped completely. I haven't seen a "smart" zombie since, and that inconsistency really annoys the more hardcore zombie people, but most of us have accepted that they just messed up big time in the first season. All of this is a result of questioning the decisions of the director and producer.


When something happens in a show or in real life, you should wonder, why? Why is the sky blue? Why do people turn into zombies when they're bit? If they're bit one way, they die, but if they're bit another way, they live. What does that mean? I find that enjoyable, and some others enjoy discussing it too, so stop shitting on people's discussions.


See, you didn't read what I said.

If they kill off Rick (ZOMBIE RICK RAAAAAAAWRRRRRR) and people criticized it, thats fine, BECAUSE IT IS THE WRITING. When people question things that still have no canon basis (as someone was kind enough to mention), that just makes no sense. There have been few, if ANY movie/comic/tv show about zombies that actually explain the physics behind zombies and how they transfer the infection or disease. You know why? Because it doesn't matter. They want to explore the realm on how people survive and react in a world crowded with once-humans that want to eat you, as well as the psyche behind people dealing with other people.

If they wanted to explore the actual world of zombies, they would explain it more. They would make things up like the Resident Evil universe did with the T-virus and such. But because that isn't the focus of the series, they aren't going to go into detail.


I know what the focus of the series is, thank you very much. I probably follow both, and zombies in general, way more than you, so don't assume I'm don't know how to enjoy the show, thanks.

The difference between your two points is that that's a narrative decision. I'm talking about a basis of the show. They can progress the plot to the point where Rick dies. They can't just introduce new versions of the zombies, such as letting them run, without introducing that idea of the zombies. These are ideas that are ingrained in the existence of the show; i.e. part of the consistency of the premises (of the show).

I have never expressed an interest except in how Darabont represents his zombies. And to understand how you represent his zombies, you have to explore how his zombies interact with the world. I reject the previous conclusions based on the fact (or idea) that an apocalypse could not have started with such a "weak" zombie". eshlow has a good explanation for the virus because it uses ideas that are certainly provable. 100% lethal bacteria forming between 3 minutes and 8 hours after death? Not so much.

I am more intrigued by why the zombie bite is fatal. And eshlow's answer was the kind of response I was hoping to get. And it was an enjoyable read. And it covered more bases than the bacterial explanation. It really doesn't matter to me that Kirkman says that the bite doesn't kill, because it doesn't cover what goes on behind the bite, in particular, why a human bite versus a zombie bite is so much more devastating. I want to say that a zombie bites ferociously since he has no sense of how hard to bite, and that's why the blood loss is a lot more lethal. The resulting infection is handled nicely by the saliva and eshlow's explanation.


@the swords not being as effective, they wouldn't be in a "true" apocalypse, but all the scenes we have seen are of more advanced decompositions. Not really any beheadings of recently turned corpses, so the idea that the flesh is very rotten, like the bicycle girl from S1E01, and not-that-optimal-weapons sort of works I guess, but I don't like that point either, in terms of zombie apocalypse consistency.


@vegro, zombies don't need food. They have some weird instinct where they just want to eat living flesh. They have unlimited energy, so they don't tire. Those are some of the main "points" of zombies. This is the basis of the science fiction. I'm pretty sure most zombie representations only keeps those two points, plus the idea that dying somehow causes reanimation, in mind.

It's debatable whether they have memories right now, but the thing in S1E01 kind of says they have a really limited memory, but nothing that could, change the plot, I guess. The flesh the zombie eats just fills up the stomach. I believe there was something somewhere in other fictions where they said when a zombie without a stomach eats (i.e. a hole in the stomach), the food just falls out. I guess we can use that since it makes sense and doesn't seem to counteract anything else we've seen.


Knew I shouldn't have gotten involved with these discussions. Don't really feel like delving into the realm of science and reason to explain something that happens IN A TV SHOW. Enjoy a show without analyzing every basic detail like how a fucking creature that eats people (zombies) causes you turn into one of them at a faster rate? Nah, that doesn't make sense.

I give up. Tired of people questioning this show over every tiny detail because they don't like it. This show does have flaws, but stuff like this just drives me insane. You win, I don't really care anymore.
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LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
October 28 2012 04:32 GMT
#4626
On October 28 2012 12:49 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 12:36 Blisse wrote:
On October 27 2012 12:39 LovE- wrote:
We haven't seen anyone die from a new zombie yet.. so why are you all so hell bent on it being from the saliva?
Maybe we will NEVER see anyone bit from a fresh zombie.. maybe we will. I think the point is that you die from the blood loss and infection it causes. Like with Jim, we had a small bite and it took awhile for him to get the fever and die. The same thing with the big guy we just saw get killed.. he was bit on his back and was okay (not going to die from blood loss) but those zombies were rotting and hell yeah they are going to carry a bunch of nasty diseases.


On October 27 2012 11:52 Requizen wrote:
The thing is, we were giving perfectly logical explanations for the bites being lethal despite not being mortal wounds, but they kept getting shot down for not being canon.

There is no canon explanation yet. Maybe there will be, maybe there won't. Complaining about something that doesn't exist is kind of pointless in the long run, don't you think?


The point is, you haven't given a logical explanation. I'm trying to theorize about something that fits in with everything we have so far. I gave the counter-argument that the bacteria in your mouth explanation makes no sense; that you can't have accumulated that much bacteria over the 3 minutes to 8 hours after death. No one has been able to counter-attack this point properly. Instead it's all, "Oh, just enjoy the show." Well, this discussion is more entertaining than debating whether or not Lori should die.



The point was made that we haven't seen a "fresh" zombie attack anything. You're right, there's a good chance that a "fresh zombie" wouldn't kill with a non-lethal bite, but we haven't seen that happen ever. So until it does, it's a completely moot point, so why are you getting so worked up over it? It's highly likely that you're right, and we admit that. But a rotted corpse (which 90% of the ones we've seen in the show are), would have disease and rot in their mouth to kill.

So until it happens, talking about it is pointless, because no "side" can give any sort of evidence, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.


Exactly.. We haven't seen it happen yet so why the hell are we discussing it so much? As far as the initial outbreak.. they probably tore all those fuckers into pieces.. so we have no idea if it was the bite or the people getting ripped to shreds that killed them. Look at the first girl we saw.. she only had half a body. That's how I imagine everyone at the beginning of the zombie Apocalypse to look like.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
October 28 2012 04:49 GMT
#4627
On October 28 2012 12:50 Sitinte wrote:
Finally caught up to both the latest episode of the new season and the latest issue of the comics.

I feel like the show found the right blend of action and drama to make it worthwhile to watch as opposed to last season.

The comic on the other hand... Issue #100 made me rage. It made me rage pretty hard. However, I should have seen it coming from a mile away.

Major Comic spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm really liking Negan. Not as a person, but as a character. Whereas The Governor was a psychotic asshole, Negan has his shit together and he thinks ahead. e.g. He knew Rick and co. were low on food so he didn't take any so the "mutual partnership" could last longer.

The cover of the upcoming issues show Carl looking ready to do work. I'm kinda scared for Carl, seems like he's going to fly too close to the sun.

Also, I hope Jesus fills the hole that the death of Abraham left behind.
Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
October 28 2012 04:56 GMT
#4628
On October 28 2012 13:49 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 12:50 Sitinte wrote:
Finally caught up to both the latest episode of the new season and the latest issue of the comics.

I feel like the show found the right blend of action and drama to make it worthwhile to watch as opposed to last season.

The comic on the other hand... Issue #100 made me rage. It made me rage pretty hard. However, I should have seen it coming from a mile away.

Major Comic spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm really liking Negan. Not as a person, but as a character. Whereas The Governor was a psychotic asshole, Negan has his shit together and he thinks ahead. e.g. He knew Rick and co. were low on food so he didn't take any so the "mutual partnership" could last longer.

The cover of the upcoming issues show Carl looking ready to do work. I'm kinda scared for Carl, seems like he's going to fly too close to the sun.

Also, I hope Jesus fills the hole that the death of Abraham left behind.



Not as major comic spoilers, but still spoilers nonetheless:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm on the same page as you with his character, but what he did still leaves me kind of bitter.

I feel that Carl will last longer than his dad though. I feel it's pretty much a given that Rick isn't going to survive until the very end. Maggie/unborn child will probably be the next major character to get the axe in the upcoming issues. Andrea once her interactions with Rick have been fully fleshed out, and Michonne... well, I'd like to witness the rage if she does die.
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
October 28 2012 14:09 GMT
#4629
Sorry, but anyone knows how long more before episode 3 is out?
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
InhumanEU
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany18 Posts
October 28 2012 14:31 GMT
#4630
On October 28 2012 23:09 kaykaykay wrote:
Sorry, but anyone knows how long more before episode 3 is out?


You can watch it via putlocker/ other streams in about 13-14 hours from now
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 28 2012 15:00 GMT
#4631
I hope the zombie fetus tears its way out of Lori like something out of Alien.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 17:49:15
October 28 2012 17:46 GMT
#4632
On October 28 2012 13:56 Sitinte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2012 13:49 LoLAdriankat wrote:
On October 28 2012 12:50 Sitinte wrote:
Finally caught up to both the latest episode of the new season and the latest issue of the comics.

I feel like the show found the right blend of action and drama to make it worthwhile to watch as opposed to last season.

The comic on the other hand... Issue #100 made me rage. It made me rage pretty hard. However, I should have seen it coming from a mile away.

Major Comic spoilers
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I'm really liking Negan. Not as a person, but as a character. Whereas The Governor was a psychotic asshole, Negan has his shit together and he thinks ahead. e.g. He knew Rick and co. were low on food so he didn't take any so the "mutual partnership" could last longer.

The cover of the upcoming issues show Carl looking ready to do work. I'm kinda scared for Carl, seems like he's going to fly too close to the sun.

Also, I hope Jesus fills the hole that the death of Abraham left behind.



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I'm on the same page as you with his character, but what he did still leaves me kind of bitter.

I feel that Carl will last longer than his dad though. I feel it's pretty much a given that Rick isn't going to survive until the very end. Maggie/unborn child will probably be the next major character to get the axe in the upcoming issues. Andrea once her interactions with Rick have been fully fleshed out, and Michonne... well, I'd like to witness the rage if she does die.

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What's really eerie about what you're saying is that those people are basically all that's left from the original crew from the Atlanta and prison arcs. It's going to be weird looking back and knowing that Carl (and maybe Sophia) are the only ones from the original crew still alive.

The really screwed up part is that everyone who is still alive is very adept at dealing with zombies which makes them more likely to die to another human than to a zombie. Negan and his crew use melee weapons so I think the upcoming major character deaths are going to be brutal and hard to read. At least those who died during the prison assault died quick deaths.

That said, the newer characters are pretty great replacements (I hate having to say that btw). Jesus is a cool dude, Holly's a badass chick, and Heath kind of reminds me of Glenn...
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
October 28 2012 17:55 GMT
#4633
Really really enjoying the start of the third season! Just seems allround better! Can't wait for the next one to finally see who the governer is and what the rave is all about !
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
October 28 2012 21:08 GMT
#4634
On October 29 2012 00:00 Zealotdriver wrote:
I hope the zombie fetus tears its way out of Lori like something out of Alien.

Lol i was thinking of her getting bit, which i doubt will happen and its like the scene in the dawn of the dead remake where the dude pulls out his zombie baby, imagine ricks face if it's neither shane or his baby, and the thing pops out looking like t bone rofl
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Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
October 28 2012 21:16 GMT
#4635
On October 29 2012 06:08 FlyingToilet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 00:00 Zealotdriver wrote:
I hope the zombie fetus tears its way out of Lori like something out of Alien.

Lol i was thinking of her getting bit, which i doubt will happen and its like the scene in the dawn of the dead remake where the dude pulls out his zombie baby, imagine ricks face if it's neither shane or his baby, and the thing pops out looking like t bone rofl


T bone? Oh lord lol.
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
October 28 2012 21:20 GMT
#4636
On October 29 2012 06:16 Kamikiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 06:08 FlyingToilet wrote:
On October 29 2012 00:00 Zealotdriver wrote:
I hope the zombie fetus tears its way out of Lori like something out of Alien.

Lol i was thinking of her getting bit, which i doubt will happen and its like the scene in the dawn of the dead remake where the dude pulls out his zombie baby, imagine ricks face if it's neither shane or his baby, and the thing pops out looking like t bone rofl


T bone? Oh lord lol.

Ya talk about a plot twist
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jbui
Profile Joined May 2010
United States193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 21:24:10
October 28 2012 21:23 GMT
#4637
On October 29 2012 06:16 Kamikiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 06:08 FlyingToilet wrote:
On October 29 2012 00:00 Zealotdriver wrote:
I hope the zombie fetus tears its way out of Lori like something out of Alien.

Lol i was thinking of her getting bit, which i doubt will happen and its like the scene in the dawn of the dead remake where the dude pulls out his zombie baby, imagine ricks face if it's neither shane or his baby, and the thing pops out looking like t bone rofl


T bone? Oh lord lol.


so that's why t-bone got no lines! they have been saving it for the big reveal so t-bone and rick can be the center of drama in the prison arc
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
October 28 2012 21:25 GMT
#4638
On October 29 2012 06:23 jbui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 06:16 Kamikiri wrote:
On October 29 2012 06:08 FlyingToilet wrote:
On October 29 2012 00:00 Zealotdriver wrote:
I hope the zombie fetus tears its way out of Lori like something out of Alien.

Lol i was thinking of her getting bit, which i doubt will happen and its like the scene in the dawn of the dead remake where the dude pulls out his zombie baby, imagine ricks face if it's neither shane or his baby, and the thing pops out looking like t bone rofl


T bone? Oh lord lol.


so that's why t-bone got no lines! they have been saving it for the big reveal so t-bone and rick can be the center of drama in the prison arc

I was watching the talking dead last night, and i read somewhere that t bones gonna have way more lines and depth in season 3 so maybe im just psychic or something?
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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
October 28 2012 23:57 GMT
#4639
When does it start exactly?
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
October 28 2012 23:59 GMT
#4640
On October 29 2012 08:57 CrimsonLotus wrote:
When does it start exactly?


Last week's starts right now, the new one starts in an hour.
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